Damn, it got cold again, but at least the wind didn’t blow the roof off. I thought it was pretty big of Whittington to apologize to Cheney yesterday for standing in front of Cheney’s shotgun and all. Hopefully if I ever shoot somebody in Texas, I’ll be able to go back into the house and hide until I sober up, too.
I think the doctors manchurianized Whittington when he was doped up, so he would apologize for standing infront of Cheney’s gun.:billcat: Nevermind, I’m gettin’ tired and my conspiracies are suffering from it:doh:
i’m with ya on that one travis ok im taking a nap now:banana:
Mornin’ Seditionists! Just checkin’ in to say hello. I have to be up pretty early in the mornin’ so I’m gonna hit the hay in a few hours.
Love ya’ guys!:love: Keep on keepin’ on!:fist:
King Kong 😳 I did response on ol’ blog 😳 A few live under the house. One I feed here but it NEEDS to be free — so I leave in till other outdoor ones are fed. They all have the :growl: so I have to stand between some. 7 (and sometimes eight(8)) are now adopted and I get all fixed even the outdoor ones.
I now have seven rats (started saving the two when they were on there way To Death)and in a week, then there were 7.
Danu is the only monster pup that was not a stray.
Sorry. I didn’t mean to talk so much about them but they all are my peace and calm — during this INSANE GOV TAKEOVER by the Twit rethugs.
Comment by Druid_666 — February 18, 2006 @ 5:39 am Edit This
So if you drink and drive and hurt someone — but say, “:oops: It was an accident.” I guess all is okay then. Insane Rethug Administration:!:
bush:fu:cheney
IMPEACHMENT!!!
VIGILANCE!!!
:fire:
:yawn: I have to put fire in “sleep” mode then soon I will be 🙂 :yawn:
bush:fu:cheney
IMPEACHMENT!!!
VIGILANCE!!!
:fire:
:banana:So if you drink and drive and hurt someone — but say, “ It was an accident.” I guess all is okay then. Insane Rethug Administration
:doh:thom is talking about american concentraation camps:?:
hey sweet just what i needed to be more paranoid!!!!!:paranoid:
Rex 84, short for Readiness Exercise 1984, was a plan by the United States federal government to test their ability to detain large numbers of American citizens in case of massive civil unrest or national emergency. Exercises similar to Rex 84 happen periodically. From 1967 to 1971 the FBI kept a list of persons to be rounded up as subversive, dubbed the “ADEX” list. (Donner, Age p. 166.)
If the rethugs implement a national round up of subversives as well as they did the war in iRAQ I wouldn’t worry about it very much.
SeanMS I think soon, due to this horrid administration, everyone will join my mindset =
:paranoid: misanthrope literalist, always insisting on PROOF. :omg:
bush:fu:cheney
IMPEACHMENT!!!
VIGILANCE!!!
:fire:
I don’t hate the song–I love the idea of this ol’ broad (which I mean in the most loving way) being all “raunchy” for the audience. She’s like a grade-B (or lower) Phyllis Diller or Martha Raye. They don’t make ’em like that anymore!
What I hate is Randi’s commentary over it.
fred :nod::rofl2::wink: and G’Evening, G’Morning to you and citizenkahn.
IMPEACHMENT!!!
VIGILANCE!!!
:fire:
Sean, I guess I will weigh in here. I absolutely hate the “bouncing boobies” song. If I am going to listen to Randi on Friday’s, I make a point of tuning in AFTER the song is finished. I keep thinking some day she will come to her senses and get rid of it!!:roll:
:yawn: G’Night, G’Evening to All. Off to Dreamland.
Isi, adios, adieu, and cheers to You and All.
IMPEACHMENT!!!
VIGILANCE!!!
:fire:
I used to listen to Rhodes in the afternoon but somewhere along the line she got raunchy and terribly repetitive. I thought that after the first six months of AAR that she repeated things so much because they kept getting more and more uniformed listeners finding AAR stations but by now I would think she is ranting pretty much to the choir and if the choir is like me its about time that AAR or someone in “our media’ started either coming up with their own solutions to the rethug plague or find guests that have a solution. Mearly unelecting these people is not a solution because it takes to much vigilance to keep them from coming back. If it takes thirty years to turn things around the US like the Titanic will be rusting on the bottom long before anything begins to happen. The rethugs are dangerous in that their policies in terms of the environment , economics and military are or will be killing people all over the globe if allowed to continue and those policies are not only those of George Bush but probably several thousand rethug politicians across the country in state and local governments as well.
Ewwwww George Bush on C-span thank goodness for the mute button.
:doh:i listen to the chimp every time he is on that is comedy gold well i think so
friggin thom hartman is stupid i want to kick him in his friggin shins
damn it friggin jerk! he is all well hackett should just run against jean schmidt because you never say never in politics blah blah blah. fuck, you know the man unlike sherrod brown is keeping his word. he told the guys already in the primary for his district he is’nt running. fuck sometimes i want to hurt people for being assheads! i knew there was some reason i didnt like hartman now i know!
The guy from the college boards commenting about the decline in the number of students entering math and science programs across the country. He is blaming it on the lack of advanced placement programs in high schools. It might also have something to do with the lack of affordable college aid and the lack of jobs for graduates. The US outsourced some 450,000 existing technical jobs between 2000 and 2004 much less created very many. Fields like information Science are placing as little as 50% of their BS graduates. Math and Physics were like less than 20%. The unplaced graduates seem to have for the most part gone back to grad school but a lot of PHd’s will graduate this year with no jobs to go to.
The left sided radio folks are full of platitudes and facts but seem to be quite nieve in the solutions department. They are a lot more interesting than Hannity and Limpprick though.
i was listening to hannity yesterday he did a whole hour of nothing but liberal calls it was interesting
Every time I have heard Hannity when he had liberal callers he tested their patience. In a face to face encounter I would think I would end up talking to Hannity with my AR15.
he is all well hackett should just … blah blah blah.
i knew there was some reason i didnt like hartman now i know!
Comment by SeanMS — February 18, 2006 @ 8:46 am
Sean – I didn’t hear Hartmann, but what he was saying might have been similar to what Bob Kincaid was saying on Head on Radio. He was talking about a post on David Sirota’s blog, The Questions That No One Wants to Ask (about the 4th post from the top).
I know little about Hackett, but his honesty was enough to win me over. It’s gotten to the point where anytime anyone tells the Truth, I can’t contain myself.
Hey Tom, did you have soccer today?
after the schmidt lady wins re-election hackett will run againstr her again in 2008 that is my prediction
If it’s Saturday, PJ, it’s a soccer day.
Glad to hear that you’ve still got a roof over your head, by the way.
How was Bill last night? They put up 3 podcasts of his show a few months ago and nothing since.
Gluten Tag Seditionistas. Hey that reminds me, we haven’t seen some people in a while. MJK, Fishguy, Bonzo and so many others? Wasn’t there a couple of people blogging from Germany?
There are not many of the old crew blogging over at Rachel’s or Riley’s blog either. To much trauma maybe ??:omg::mad:
hey im off to baltimore sheeple :sheep: ok well ill be back when i get into my hotel room
:priest:the bibles book of revelations portends that monkeys will be flying through the air the day george bush is out of office thanks to genetic engineering scary
kristapea, last night you posted a prayer for the troops that one of your bush supporting relatives sent you, the prayer said the most important thing to do for the troops was to pray for them. you asked for links to help you respond.
i found one here that might help:
Soldier’s wife holds fundraisers for body armor for troops link
kristapea, here’s another link for your relative who thinks our best support for our troops is prayer. maybe we can encourage him to vote for some of the iraq war veterans running for congress:
War vets ready for new battle: Politics
Tammy Duckworth lost both legs while serving in Iraq. After more than a year in rehab, she’s campaigning for Congress. link
OOOH Thanks Foggy. I was having a hard time finding Op Truth. Or maybe the sites name has changed. Yes, I will use those. These people just make me so mad!
Can i wander off the reservation a bit on Hackett? Did he make anyone else out there a little nervous? We want our candidates to speak from the heart, but this guy gives me the feeling that he sometimes just says whatever comes into his head. There’s a difference between candor and carelessness.
That said, i sent an e mail to Schumer calling him a scumbag in a very polite way after i read that story in mother jones about hackett. He should have been allowed to run.
All in all, the whole episode screams for a bit by that Pendejo Guy.
Don’t fuck with librarians.
thats awesome. if we start having ‘porn police’ wow, thats not good.
Don’t fuck with Google, either (well, unless you’re the Chinese government – or a librarian, I suppose).
i think google should change their motto to “don’t be evil on in the U.S.”
sad day for mr farmer….a friend/co-worker (Iraqi) was assassinated (bullet to his head) last night getting out of his car to take a can of soup to his family. Was a good man, I’m told.
pj, that pdf link did NOT load properly on this computer – bunch of code.
I’ll check it out on find law.
ex-nycer, i found that paper you posted yesterday to be interesting.
oh farmerkat, i’m so sorry to hear about mr. farmerkat’s friend. delivering a can of soup to his family. a sad day. i hope mr. can be in a safe place and have time to himself today.
pj, thx for your link to the washington post article about librarians refusing to buckle under when homeland security guys threatened the library patrons.
i was not surprised to see that the homeland security guys had a supervisor who apologized for their behavior after the fact.
that’s the trend these days, isn’t it, for thugs to overstep their authority and threaten, harrass, arrest, detain, sometimes injure (too-tight handcuffs, etc.) folks and then apologize a day or two later. think about what happened to cindy sheehan when she was at the the state of the union speech.
the same sort of thing happens here with war protesters, bicycle rally participants, and tree sitters. even ordinary folks going about their everyday business get stopped by police who suspect them of something or other just because they have neighbors who grow marijuana.
the police state creeping in on us, more and more every year. :paranoid:
the library thugs only have to do this once or twice more in the libaries and issue the formula apology afterwards. word will get around that the library internet isn’t a safe place to do research.
the thugs try to do the same thing with anti-war protests. they want us to know that if we go to one we’ll get bruised, photographed, wire-tapped, put on a list, maybe arrested for a day, then released without charges and with a pathetic (insincere) apology.
😡
Anxious?
Let’s see:
Cheney implicated in OUTING A COVERT CIA OPERATIVE for a political vendetta and claims he has the legal authority to do so (MSM Agrees)
Cheney nearly blows a man’s head off in a drunken stupor and the police and press end up covering his ass.
Democratic lawmakers agree to Patriot Act. One step closer to a police state.
Whitehouse cuts a secret deal to sell the control of six major ports to TERRORIST NATIONS.
More TORTURE media is released…America YAWNS.
Congress condemns Iran on Nuclear Program. One step closer to war with Iran.
China/Russia warning US AGAINST attacking Iran. One step closer to WW III.
Survey Says: America MOST HATED COUNTRY IN WORLD.
What are you WORRIED ABOUT?!?!
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this was on DU and its so true.
🙁 We so need the Funny.
Our local UPJ group was going to have a couple of classes on how to isolate and deal with the police much like the police have training in how to isolate and intimidate protesters. A couple of ex national guard guys were going to teach it. Generally if you can humiliate them they will be ineffective. ( or they will get really pissed ). They never did the training I think they were afraid getting training might make the police equate us to terrorists.
i think the secret to keeping the busivecs from declaring martial law is to have the state governments be run by democrats. The governors can then tell their national guard troops to resist the feds and/or to take control from the police. The feds don’t have enough troops to do anything about it as long as enough states tell them where to go. The biggest problem with this is if the adjacent states are rethug run you could end up with a real shooting civil war.
thanks foggyblue for your kind thoughts.
we have nonviolence training for just about anything you can imagine, certainly all of our rallies and protests. humiliating the police isn’t part of the training.
i guess you might consider that we’re engaging in “humiliation” when we chant “the whole world is watching” while police are roughing up a non-violent protester and our video cameras are rolling. however, the police here seem to get rougher and more bullying in situations like that. some kind of badge of honor.
we’re getting some fine new words this morning: manchurianized (thx travis) and bushevics (thx fred).
Morning. Interesting the Sirota stuff on Paul Hackett. I liked Hackett, but was not taken by his “get the job done militarily” solution in Iraq. But hell, that seems fairly mainstream democrat. He was much nicer than that grifter Reickhoff. Check back later.
Talk about “Right of Return”.:nixon::rabbi::omg::sdavid::cres::peace::rofl2:
Hey everyone! Yes…anxious and stressed…and I woke up sick today with some chest cold…so Im not bouncing my boobies today;-)…but I do like the song…like it more than I like Randi lately. I think that she needs input and conversation where she actually listens.
Anyway, Im just so sick and trying to kill it with healthy food, tea and vitamins….and Im really worried and a little depressed about the world and what is happening. Things seem to get crazier and crazier each day.
I guess I should try to stay away from the state of things when I’m sick.
Porn.
oh, just discovered that Calico The Donkey ADORES gingersnaps :love: in fact, she got downright greedy!
feel better Melina.
It works on mine. Maybe acrobat isn’t installed on it?
Sorry to hear about Mr FK’s colleague. One of many we probably won’t hear about here in the US.
Speaking of ignominious…
Hey. You wanna get high? Let’s smoke some pot.:omg::rofl2: Why is AAR running that drug war propaganda?
I remember before AAR, there were discussions about the difficulty of progressive talk radio. A major difficulty was the probable lack of enough paid advertising from businesses. How is AAR doing in this regard? Janeane made a crack the other night about how AAR relies on PSAs, not commercials.
Basic Primer on Palestinian/Israeli Conflict
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The Origin of the Palestine-Israel Conflict
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Introduction
Early History of the Region
The British Mandate Period: 1920-1948
The UN Partition of Palestine
Statehood and Expulsion – 1948
The 1967 War and Israeli Occupation of the West Bank and Gaza
The History of Terrorism in the Region
Jewish Criticism of Zionism
Zionism and the Holocaust
General Considerations
Jewish Fundamentalism in Israel
Intifada 2000 And The “Peace Process”
Views Of The Future
Conclusion I For Jewish Readers
Conclusion II
As the periodic bloodshed continues in the Middle East, the search for an equitable solution must come to grips with the root cause of the conflict. The conventional wisdom is that, even if both sides are at fault, the Palestinians are irrational “terrorists” who have no point of view worth listening to. Our position, however, is that the Palestinians have a real grievance: their homeland for over a thousand years was taken, without their consent and mostly by force, during the creation of the state of Israel. And all subsequent crimes — on both sides — inevitably follow from this original injustice.
This paper outlines the history of Palestine to show how this process occurred and what a moral solution to the region’s problems should consist of. If you care about the people of the Middle East, Jewish and Arab, you owe it to yourself to read this account of the other side of the historical record.
Introduction
The standard Zionist position is that they showed up in Palestine in the late 19th century to reclaim their ancestral homeland. Jews bought land and started building up the Jewish community there. They were met with increasingly violent opposition from the Palestinian Arabs, presumably stemming from the Arabs’ inherent anti-Semitism. The Zionists were then forced to defend themselves and, in one form or another, this same situation continues up to today.
The problem with this explanation is that it is simply not true, as the documentary evidence in this booklet will show. What really happened was that the Zionist movement, from the beginning, looked forward to a practically complete dispossession of the indigenous Arab population so that Israel could be a wholly Jewish state, or as much as was possible. Land bought by the Jewish National Fund was held in the name of the Jewish people and could never be sold or even leased back to Arabs (a situation which continues to the present).
The Arab community, as it became increasingly aware of the Zionists’ intentions, strenuously opposed further Jewish immigration and land buying because it posed a real and imminent danger to the very existence of Arab society in Palestine. Because of this opposition, the entire Zionist project never could have been realized without the military backing of the British. The vast majority of the population of Palestine, by the way, had been Arabic since the seventh century A.D. (Over 1200 years)
In short, Zionism was based on a faulty, colonialist world view that the rights of the indigenous inhabitants didn’t matter. The Arabs’ opposition to Zionism wasn’t based on anti-Semitism but rather on a totally reasonable fear of the dispossession of their people.
One further point: being Jewish ourselves, the position we present here is critical of Zionism but is in no way anti-Semitic. We do not believe that the Jews acted worse than any other group might have acted in their situation. The Zionists (who were a distinct minority of the Jewish people until after WWII) had an understandable desire to establish a place where Jews could be masters of their own fate, given the bleak history of Jewish oppression. Especially as the danger to European Jewry crystalized in the late 1930’s and after, the actions of the Zionists were propelled by real desperation.
But so were the actions of the Arabs. The mythic “land without people for a people without land” was already home to 700,000 Palestinians in 1919. This is the root of the problem, as we shall see. . .
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/history/origin.html
thx nickyrose for the primer.
“Wanna get high?…Here. You’ll like this.” SMOKE!:omg:
War vets ready for new battle: Politics
Tammy Duckworth lost both legs while serving in Iraq. After more than a year in rehab, she’s campaigning for Congress. link
Comment by foggyblue — February 18, 2006 @ 10:57 am
Here’s more information on Tammy Duckworth:
http://tinyurl.com/7n5fd
Melina, I hope you feel better. :love:
As long as we’re voting, I like the Bounce Your Boobies song, but that might be due to the fact that it’s usually the last piece of music I hear before I get off work on Friday. I’m guessing the association has something to do with it.
Not that I have a problem with bouncing boobies, of course. :hubba:
RUSTY WARREN!!!
IMPEACHMENT!!!
VIGILANCE!!!
:fire::fire::fire:
Speaking of Foucault…
Ready for Your Close Up?
Chicago’s Panopticon
By ANDREW FREEDMAN
As I write this here in Chicago, most stores, restaurants, and other places of business have surveillance cameras. The city offers every business three options.
Option 1: Hook up a camera and have it connected to the Police Department, so every time a customer walks in, the Police can see what they are doing. In what is probably the World’s largest reality TV program, right now Mayor Daley and members of the Chicago Police Department come to command headquarters and watch on the monitors as thousands maybe more Chicagoans shop while under surveillance. Of course none of the people on Chicago’s daily reality TV program are as entertaining as Donald Trump, Omarosa, Sam,Paris Hilton or Simon Cowell but the Chicago Police still film more people in a day then Mark Brunett or Jerry Bruckheimer.
Option 2: If a business doesn’t want to participate in hooking a camera up to police headquarters they can hook the camera up to the back of the store. The store’s security people watch a tape of everyone who comes in and if a crime is committed the tape is forwarded to the Police
Option 3: If for Civil Liberties reasons or because they feel it creates an impersonal atmosphere a business owner doesn’t want to hook up a surveillance camera, they can choose not to since it’s there property.
So while every store near my home in Chicago has surveillance cameras, some places in other parts of the city chose not to and some of the cameras don’t go directly to Police headquarters. The Chicago Police Department also has set up hidden cameras throughout the city, so citizens walking on sidewalks or driving at intersections can be routinely watched. So we are a pretty well protected city. http://www.counterpunch.com
Things may be better (or worse :eek:) than you think. There are actually very few Republicans left in the Republican party, much less the so-called conservative movement. The real conservatives like me have all left in a rage :growl: or disgust :barf:. Are there enough nut cases and DINO’s to keep the current Party in power? Time and elections (or revolution) will tell.
Read the rest here, from the sort of tin foil hat crowd at Lew Rockwell.
PS: Working on the Sedition Party site this weekend (yeah, yeah, about time). Bill Lives! :billcat:
what the fuck why so few posts today i was looking forward to way more posts than this when i returned anyway must go to the tittie bar with the other truck drivers so i bid everybody ado or whatever i know its a fancy way you are supposed to spell ado but i dont remember how right now and i dont feel like looking it up and i must shower so uh later people i will catch y’all on the flipside fah rizzle my nizzles or whatever peace:peace:
i don’t know what’s more sobering, nickrose’s post about all the cameras watching us or methaz’s post about the republicans buying the fuhrer principle (favoring bush the dictator over the constitution).
methaz, you once said we’d figure out ways to counter the insidious non-lethal weapons that are being developed to prevent us from protesting in the streets.
do you have any such optimism about our ability to counter the police state’s increasing ability to spy on us? :paranoid:
foggyblue – Yes, absolutely. Ever read the Adventures of the Stainless Steel Rat (Harry Harrison)? If even 10% or 20% of we the sheeple :sheep: ever wanted to we could shut down the whole system in about a day :sammy:.
Bottom line: Police states aren’t about technology – they are about psychology.
But with respct to weapons and surveillance technology, developing the systems and their countermeasures go hand in hand. In fact, you almost always develop them both at the same time because you have to assume that the other team is working on the same things. The only system I can think of offhand that principle hasn’t applied to are nukes, and even there some countermeasures have been and are being developed, at least for the delivery systems.
:alc:
I wish I could remember the Friday that Marc and Mark substituted for Randi and they had to deal with the bounce your boobies song.
Pretty funny. That was before I was listening to MS too early for me at that time in Seattle.
The best idea to countering the police state would be to move out of the cities into places where agriculture is still a big business. Surveillance cameras are not likely to follow you there, Cell phone towers are far enough apart that it would be difficult to locate you and big agriculture uses lots and lots of chemicals that you could probably obtain fairly large quantities of that would not cause much suspicion.
In the big cities the police surveillance cameras probably use the commercial cable TV fibre networks which can probably be disrupted by a back hoe attack and I somewhat doubt they monitor every camera all the time. The crowd control weapons are only useful against crowds, not against 50 people with assault rifles.
Try Googling TM 31-210. It and other useful books published by DOD are available on CD ROM.
I say we counter spying with WIGS! YES! we all should have a collection of wigs that we wear randomly in our daily lives to confuse them! That’s my Pendejo solution for the day. And they say we have no solutions. PSHAW!
One thing I like to do is, when I’m asked for my phone number and/or zip code from a clerk in a store, I give them all different ones every time. Go ahead, data mine all you want!:rofl2:
This just in, providing cheap heating oil to poor Americans is “part of an unfriendly government‘s increasingly belligerent and hostile foreign policy.”
Invading, occupying, and basically blowing the shit out of a country? That’s promoting democracy.
methaz,
when i think about how many people seem to believe fox news and who think that bush is a true moral christian man who will save the world from immorality, i get concerned. i get frightened.
i don’t know if the nazi germany example applies to us, but it seems like it might. here was a country where most of its citizens believed fervently in their leader, even when he did the most terrible awful things. i don’t know, but i’m not sure that 10-20% of the german population could have stopped hitler, not even at the beginning, and certainly not later on.
the christian far-right believes things that are so incomprehensible to me that all i can do is treat them as if they were insane. there’s no reasoning with them. i don’t want to bully them. what good would it do anyway? it wouldn’t change their ideas, and that’s what you’re talking about when you say a police state is about psychology.
who we’re dealing with these days are the people who have for whatever reason fallen off the rails and don’t see what’s before their noses and instead believe a pack of lies sold to them by their preachers and their television sets. they are our neighbors. many of them are our friends and relatives. they vote. they are absolutely certain they are on the moral high ground. it frightens me. i’m not sure that 10-20% of us could effectively counter their determined ways now that they own the voting machines and the television sets and they count the votes.
i sometimes think it’s already too late, that my task now is to learn to survive while the fascist wave crashes down all around us. i’m learning to be more careful than i was in the 1970s.
i do think that if we’re careful and watchful and bide our time, we will turn it around again some day. but i don’t think that day is here right now.
oh i hope so much i’m wrong and that the very next election will give us back our infuriating infantile silly democratic party majority with all of its nonsense.
kristapea, wigs and random phone numbers! yes!! :banana:
:rofl2::rofl2:
Good evening from very chilly Bay Area – we had a few mintues of light hail this morning, and snow dustings at the tops of Mt. Diablo and Mt. Hamilton.
Why does she play that ‘bounce your boobie” song? To stick it in the face (eh hem) of the puritanical, left and rightwing both? I think it’s funny, as a piece of pre-1960’s (I’m thinking it was recorded in the 1950’s) bawdy-woman comedy. But playing it so often, and at the part when she says something to effect of ‘you don’t have to have ’em big’, and Randi says ‘o yes it does’, and talking about how one of the other women on her staff is so flat chested – well, who needs this crap? Randi irritates the hell out of me, and her smarts aren’t enough to make me want to put up with her mammoth ego and need for fauning attention. She must be absolutely insufferable to have to work with. I have the same reaction to male dj’s who talk this pointless trash (I prefer my trash to have some point to it – South Park, Reno 9-11, Dave Chapelle… 😉
I think the polls are right that more people than not disagree with this war. But the problem is they do not see that all of these threads, spying, pre-emptive wars, terroists, global warming, economics etc are leading to an America that does not look like what we grew up with. They don’t see the seriousness of the situation because the m$m isn’t acting like it’s serious.
Sean, what did Thom Hartmann say, I missed it, and am trying to catch up with today’s posts now. ❓
By the way, I’ve almost got Bushwhacked copied onto cd’s for you. I hope they work on your cd player – they work on mine. It’s 5 cd’s, each more than an hour long, so it’s close to six hours listening time.:grin:
Uh, you forgot Marc Maron Ex :no:
ex-ny-er: you really nailed it, in describing randi’s “mammoth ego and need for fauning attention”–I guess I had never articulated so clearly why she is so hard to listen to, but the ego is definitely one of the biggest problems. I could see if she was bright, but, my god….:doh::doh::doh:
on the other hand, it was so great to “hear” marc’s voice on this blog the other night. :bow::bow::bow: so often the very people who SHOULD have mammoth egos don’t have them (and that’s part of the reason they should have mammoth egos :grin:) I think I’ll just pause for a moment to imagine jim falling out of that tree house. :rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:
Kristpea, I forgot what about Marc Maron, I don’t get it?
trash with a point.
It was great to hear from Marc. I was thrilled to see him in person for the first time, I could harldy sleep that night, and I sure hope the show starts next week! I need the funny!!! I need regular doses of it, stat and prn, QD (to put it in medical-ese)…:love:
What I did today.
After the usual morning stuff, I took a bus to downtown Portland. Today the Arctic Blasts were barely existent, it seemed. An anti-fur demonstration was going on in front of a boutique. There were some shocking posters with skinned animals on them. “Here is the rest of your coat.”
Then I walked over to Powell’s, where I found the 1984 edition of “1984”. You know, I don’t think that it is a great novel. Orwell did write much better things, too. But since Malloy is reading from it every night, I figured that I would get a copy to read along. Also bought a few things about The Beats.
At the Portland Public Library, I checked out a book by Norman Finkelstein, and a book about the painter Chaim Soutine. Some people have told me that my paintings remind them of Soutine. What flattery!)
To a yuppie grocery store by Powell’s, then over to Peet’s Coffee, where I bought a 1/2 pound of french roast.
On the bus trip home, I ran into my friend, Misty.
:rabbi::omg:
trash with a point. Comment by Kristapea
You callin’ Marc trash??? 😆
Nahh, I know you’re not.
Yeh, enough of Randi already. I’m even losing my interest in Sam Seder and Janeane Garafolo (other than seeing her on West Wing – and I am pissed that NBC is ditching WW after this season, I really like the banter. Guess it’s not stupid enough to make the grade, and there’s no sex on it, just political intrigue in the White House, so of course we can’t have that for common consumption, can we? Gee, people might take an interest in what’s going on in the real White House, and start making comparisons and get their own ideas on what our employees should be doing on our behalf. No, can’t have that!)
Sounds like a nice day on the town Nicki. I don’t know why I miss Portland a little when I was so fuckin’ miserable there.:roll:
Yeah, I guess trashy isn’t the right word. How about neurotic with a point.
I’ve always wanted to go to Powells, I hear it’s a great bookstore.
SeanMS, what did Thom Hartmann say that pisses you off? The few times I’ve heard him I thought he was pretty good. They don’t carry his show on the AAR outlet here in SF, so I’ve gotten to hear him occasionally, once when I stayed in Seattle for a week, and also I think I listened to him a few times on the old ieamerica radio, where Malloy and Werbe used to be.
This just in, providing cheap heating oil to poor Americans is “part of an unfriendly government‘s increasingly belligerent and hostile foreign policy.”
Invading, occupying, and basically blowing the shit out of a country? That’s promoting democracy. Comment by pjsauter
Well said, PJ! What a crazy story. It didn’t even make sense:
“It‘s transparent, it‘s petty, it‘s political,” s, , ), D-Mass., who helped broker the original deal for cut-rate oil between Venezuelan officials and Massachusetts last year.
What’s this – what happened to the name of the person they’re supposedly quoting? And the person who brokered the deal is now opposing it?? Oh, and Citgo spokersperson David McCallom is “still studying the request” – what request? No request is mentioned at all. Written by “staff and agencies”. Talk about talking out of your ass – this makes The National Enquirer look like fine literature. They cut and pasted some quotes as is and barely inserted a few connecting words. Sad and stupid. I bet Sammy likes it. :sammy:
Last time I was in SF, I made a point to go to City Lights Bookstore. Lots of Beat history–and much more–in that quarter of SF. Great City!
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Here’s a less butchered version of the heating oil story.
Does anybody know the story of why Kyle Jason’s show was cancelled?
David Bender is on now. Probably a rerun. (I love AAR’s weekend shows. Seriously.)
:bow: Weekend shows.:omg:
Bender just mentioned Chris Shays (of CT). I remember him on Morning Sedition once. What stuck out to me was his worshipful capitalist attitude toward “markets.” Free Enterprise: Freedom to rob!
Wow, what a difference an un-butchered version makes. Ely Times must be a pathetic outfit…Where is Ely anyway? Colorado? This likes a neocon rag masqerading as a newspaper that I saw up in Happy Camp, California, near the Oregon border. The town sports the largest Bush/Cheney sign I’ve ever seen, right on their main street. :barf:
Two brave friends of mine are homesteading on some overgrown land they bought on the cheap up there after they got evicted from their apt. in Oakland.
Prairie Home Companion just ended, Garrison Keillor singing surf music along with a cool surf band called The Exotics.
City Lights is dangerous if you have any money to spend. Too much great stuff. Luckily I hardly make it over there. But I have Green Apple Bookstore right in my neighborhood, where I blew around $80 last payday on books on cd (Sean – I just finished copying those 5 cd’s of Bushwhacked for you, they’re yours now, let me know if I should mail them or hold onto them until you come through SF). And around $20 on two books I just had to have – used copies of Bertrand Russell’s History of Western Philosophy, and a perfect hand-holdable size for reading on the bus, Portable Karl Marx. Long live independent booksellers! These are the biggest cd and book purchases I’ve made in months, I hardly ever do that. But this was all too good to pass up.
I’ve been meaning to ask – I’ve got 28 episodes of MS saved into the Podcast folder in my ITunes. Having dial-up, it was time consuming. Wish I’d been able to save more of them, but I’m glad I have these. I’ve never gone back and listened to them, maybe I will sometime.
Hey Nicki, during the last days of my life in Portland, I donated a piece to an art auction for either Kerry or Moveon and at the opening there was a 3 piece band called Shicky Gnarowitz that played. They were exactly the kind of strings I like to hear and i bought a cd from them. It’s a violin, guitar and bass and they play traditional slavic type tunes. Just wondering if you’d heard of them, I think I want to get the other cd they had for sale.
NickiRose, I’m confused – I just went to the AAR website and it says Kyle Jason is on now with Malloy up next, but when I tune in they’re running a Malloy repeat. Even their radio player says “On Air Now: Kyle Jason”. Is it usual AAR ineptitude, not updating the site?
By the way, did Whittington actually apologize for being in front of Cheney’s gun?? Is that true or did someone make that up? It’s hard to tell truth from fiction these days…
I thought I heard that too Ex. And with the allegation that they were there with some lady friends they are TOTALLY covering for each other like a couple of cheating husbands.
Regarding our well-surveilled society, my Dad told me years ago his workplace (a nursing home) has had surveillance cameras in place in every unit, every nurses’ station and the breakroom for some years. His union, Local 1199 (yet another corporate-style scandal ridden union that the rank and file needs desperately to reclaim) let this get by without so much as a whimper, apparently.
Now you could say a nursing home is a good place to have cameras, to ensure good care and discourage abuse, but why in the breakroom and nurses’ stations? 😮
They probably figure, “what the hell is 2 more cameras gonna cost us, eh, why NOT?”
Hey Kristapea and all, does it seem as plausible to you as it does to me that Whittington volunteered for this stunt or possibly was set up for it, to divert from the news of Justice Dept. indictments that were scheduled to come to light? I forget if I heard that on the Daily Show or read it here or both. :nod:
I meant Justice Dept. indictments against Cheney…
Kristapea and ex-ny’er , yes, I sadly saw the interview, too, and he apologized to the cheney family, for causing all. I heard cheney was with Pam Wilford, so to chime with and to Confirm Kristapea’s words, “he was a Cheating Husband”:!:
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I think that that is entirely possible with this bunch, but I think it was a drunken accident. What would your price be for going through a stunt like that? Possibly losing an eye or 2 in the randomness of someone shooting, what was it, buckshot? I don’t know, if I was going to agree to a stunt like that, I might insist on very small bullets. But I can’t imagine, personally, volunteering to hurt myself for any amount of power or money. But that’s me.
“Hey! I am going to smoke up. Wanna get high?”:omg:
Here’s the Whittington video. He didn’t quite apologize for standing in front of Cheney’s gun, but he was deeply sorry for everything that Cheney had to go through the past week.
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Nicki, I think I beat ya to it.:bong:
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Kristapea, I believe it was a drunken act of stupidity, showing off for his girlfriend, the new Ambassador of (I think) of Sweden.
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Thanks Nicki, Apparently I have Volume 2. It has a phone number on it.
Here is Sean’s take on the matter of the missing Kyle Jason:
what the fuck i demand new kyle jason you scumbag sons of bitches i cant take this shit every show i like gets fucking cancelled first it was unfiltered then my beloved morning sedition and i just realized my fucking kyle jason too what the fuck ive been wondering why the fuck he hasnt been on on saturday nights i swear this shit is so frustrating so when are you bastards cancelling malloy so there is nothing left on the station that makes me giddy with joy when the show begins argh fuck fuckity fuck fuck fuck i cant take this shit ugh ok im done bitching but uh this cant be a good thing
Submitted by SEANIESEAN5 on February 15, 2006 – 2:30pm. | :rofl2::omg:
“Let’s get stoned.”
Partnership for the continuation of the War on Drugs.:rofl2::omg:
:fu:Bush!
NickiRose and travisdem_04 wish you were here or I there :rofl2::bong::rofl2:
ex-ny’er, call SF periodically The City and you will sound a local or with “tight” connections to a local. :rofl2: You make me remember when…..
And NEVER say San Fran or that tells all. :rofl2:,
but I haven’t been there for 15 yrs ( although originally from there and around) so all could be changed.:doh:
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IMPEACHMENT!!!
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janeane said in the intro to her show on friday that two of her guests would be kyle jason and chuck d. i didn’t hear the part of her show when they appeared. maybe they said something then about kyle’s show. last week kyle was on chuck d’s show and he was great. but he didn’t say anything about his show being cancelled.
something to think about from the Guardian:
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I was staying in Marin County a couple of Summers ago. Tell me about “the City”. It was amazing. They don’t call Portland “the City” around here.
SF is a grand city, though. Paris…London…The City….ny…:rofl2::omg:
And I keep forgetting to add IT WAS A SHOTGUN:!: (if you haven’t heard ALREADY)
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IMPEACHMENT!!!(thx to KevinM)
VIGILANCE!!!
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I once had a hardback copy of Russell’s “History of Western Philosophy”. I gave it to an ex…:omg:
Time to read the books.:nixon::rofl2::omg:
the san francisco chronicle has a fascinating commentary written by a german philosopher about the tv show 24. he suggests that the show helps viewers to adjust to the idea of torturing others as a necessary but heavy burden, and that we, as the torturers, can continue to live ordinary lives with loving families and responsibilities. link
i don’t have a tv and haven’t seen the show, but i can’t get the commentary out of my mind. two of my sisters are totally fascinated by the show and wouldn’t miss a minute of it. i wonder if they are slowly adjusting to the idea of torture as a necessary activity in these post 9/ll days.
an article on a related subject appeared in the guardian. here’s an excerpt:
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has anyone seen 24? do you think you’re being brainwashed into accepting torture as a necessary means to an end?
foggyblue, So True: this Mind Shit is closer than ever. When I was in ‘SC I was part a study on The Mind (in ’80’s), but when I walked in to be tested it was all re War Games (who payed for all). I have now added your article to my Must Have Info. THX (I use to like the Gaurdian ((via web)) but got frustrated with the paper.)
NickiRose Marin County — you and others are bring back ol’ haunts. :rofl2::lol::cry::lol:
“The loveliness of Paris seems somehow sadly gay,
The glory that was Rome, was of another day,
I feel terribly alone and forgotten in Manhatten
(I would say L.A. cuz I was attending the uni)
I’m going home to my City by the bay.
I left my hearttttttttttt, in san Fracisco,
High on a hill, it calls to me.
To see theeeeeee little cable cars….etc
Did you ask me a question … sorry 😉
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IMPEACHMENT!!!(thx to KevinM)
VIGILANCE!!!
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on sunday beautiful san francisco is hosting the first day of the tour of california, the american equivalent of the tour de france. thousands of people will be lining the streets of the city to see the time trials of the world’s most famous cyclists. the weather will be sunny. just another day in a great city. link
NickiRose I blink and you are gone. I am a LOUSY typist now. I was super quick in late teens and early 20’s. BUT A SNAIL NOW:!: :doh::doh::doh:
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VIGILANCE!!!
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foggyblue WOW WOW WOW — life will work (after trauma) cuz we have Tour of California — but why not come up here? We Have The Redwoods:lol:
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IMPEACHMENT!!!(thx to KevinM)
VIGILANCE!!!
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Heeey, NickiRose, thank you for posting from Alison Weir’s If Americans Knew website. I happen to be personally acquainted with her (we correspond on email sometimes), she lives here in the Bay Area. I’ve table with her a couple of times and one time helped ward off some rabid frothing at the mouth zionazi who made really dangerous looking threatening physical moves at her and her table.
I have to take issue with this statement, though:
…the actions of the Zionists were propelled by real desperation…
That is untrue, from what I’ve learned from reading Jeff Blankfort and Lenni Brenner. The Zionists were not at all desperate – they had backing from the Nazis. Sounds incredible, right? It did to me, until I heard Lenni Brenner speak.
Well, I started writing this post 2 1/2 hours ago, got interrrupted by a long phone conversation, and I’m fading fast, so good night, all!
mwah ha ha i am evil:evil:
SeanMS Why:?::?::?::?::?::?::?::?::?: 👿
(You prob did something that I would call good:rofl2:
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I believe that the “desperate” conditions implied what was going on in Czarist Russia starting in the late 1880s, the pogroms. I agree that, while it may not have been especially pleasant for Jews in Europe, it was not as unbearable as the early Zionists would have you believe. Have you read Israel Shahak’s study of Judaism? Something like “History of the Jews: 3000 years of Jewish history”. Fairly withering critique of some aspects of Jewish culture.
NickiRose, There is a new Thread started. :banana: Could you give me more info re this you speak of re comment #126? I am unclear.
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NickiRose , Am I ruining what you are writing by being a literalist? Whereas, you are stating something that you many want to be the last on the Tread, which would be sooo important of what you speak. I just saw your name and responded. :doh: If I see you on previous should I just “Let It Be”?
By the way, I responded re Marin — but all was gone by the time I came and saw and responded. :doh:
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