Sunday, and once again time for the bobbleheads. Press the Meat will be on a little early for many of us this week, due to coverage of the Olympics (which apparently are still going on). I think I heard they were being held in a Torino or something (wasn’t that what Starsky and Hutch drove?). Anyhow, set your alarm clocks, because Timmy has DHS Director Michael Jerkoff on, to tell us what a great job he did during Katrina, and it’s all Michael Brown’s fault. Then Mary Matalin will try not to look too fucking smug and ugly sitting next to Maureen Dowd while David Gregory hopefully chokes the living shit out of Paul Gigot as they all discuss who Dick Cheney shot this weekend, and why Cheney forgives him for screwing up an otherwise glorious day of killing things.
Over at Fazed the Nation, Bush Buddy Bobby Schieffer has on Bill :billcat: Frist to tell us there’s more than one way to skin a cat, Barbara Boxer will be on to explain why she never did Morning Sedition until she had a book to plug, and Elizabeth Bumiller will be on to pretend there’s a liberal media.
Fresh off his grand appearance with Timmy Potatohead, Michael Jerkoff stops by to visit with George Snufalufagus, along with fellow Republicans Joe Lieberman of CT and Tom Davis (wasn’t he Franken’s partner?) of VA. At the Roundtable, Katrina vanden Heuvel will be on (mostly so we can hear the obligatory “Katrina” jokes after Jerkoff’s visit), while George :jerk: Will and Cokie “Skeletor” Roberts take turns tsk-tsking, while being pompous, arrogant, and condescending. And fellow Irishman Shaquille O’Neal will be on so we can see a bunch of middle aged white guys treat a young black man with respect.
Over at Fux News Sunday with Chris “I wanna be Marv Albert’s Bitch” Wallace, Lindsey “I’m not gay” Graham and Evan “Birch” Bayh come on to talk about what a safety conscious hunter Dick Cheney is, and how Democrats are playing the Katrina “blame game.” Also Alan Simpson will be on to say that, in Wyoming, they shoot each other in the face for kicks all the time, and anything less than double-ought buckshot is for wimps.
Later, on 60 minutes, Bob Simon reports that there’s something rotten in the State of Denmark, Scott Pelley goes above the Arctic Circle in Greenland to interview another one of these leftwing radical nutsy cuckoo scientists who thinks that just because the rate of ice melting in Greenland has doubled in the last five years and we had to go into the Greek Freakin’ alphabet to name hurricanes last season, there’s something to this “Global Warming” myth. Next thing you know, they’ll be telling us that apes and humans had a common ancestor. Also, Steve Kroft interviews Phillip Seymour Hoffman, who says that giving up drugs and alcohol was the turning point of his life (apparently it’s been all downhill ever since), and Andy Rooney will be on to piss and moan about something nobody gives a shit about.
And over at CNN, Larry King will be on to tell us how Ester-C really put the snap back in his suspenders.
Enjoy your Sunday.
pjsauter , Perfect-Speak :rofl2::banana::rofl2:
I know, Druid, that’s good stuff, huh?:nod: Well, I have to go to sleep now. So, later, sheeple.:40:
travisdem_04, Sleep Tight Travis with Impeachment :banana: (dancin’) in your head.
Jewish History, Jewish Religion:
The Weight of Three Thousand Years
by Professor Israel Shahak
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Contents:
Foreword by Gore Vidal
A Closed Utopia?
Prejudice and Prevarication
Orthodoxy and Interpretation
The Weight of History
The Laws against Non-Jews
Political Consequences
Notes and References
“Jewish History, Jewish Religion” may be purchased at: http://www.amazon.com
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Foreword:
Sometime in the late 1950s, that world-class gossip and occasional historian, John F. Kennedy, told me how, in 1948, Harry S. Truman had been pretty much abandoned by everyone when he came to run for president. Then an American Zionist brought him two million dollars in cash, in a suitcase, aboard his whistle-stop campaign train. ‘That’s why our recognition of Israel was rushed through so fast.’ As neither Jack nor I was an antisemite (unlike his father and my grandfather) we took this to be just another funny story about Truman and the serene corruption of American politics.
Unfortunately, the hurried recognition of Israel as a state has resulted in forty-five years of murderous confusion, and the destruction of what Zionist fellow travellers thought would be a pluralistic state – home to its native population of Muslims, Christians and Jews, as well as a future home to peaceful European and American Jewish immigrants, even the ones who affected to believe that the great realtor in the sky had given them, in perpetuity, the lands of Judea and Samaria. Since many of the immigrants were good socialists in Europe, we assumed that they would not allow the new state to become a theocracy, and that the native Palestinians could live with them as equals. This was not meant to be. I shall not rehearse the wars and alarms of that unhappy region. But I will say that the hasty invention of Israel has poisoned the political and intellectual life of the USA, Israel’s unlikely patron. . .
I have this book on my shelf. I paid $16.95 for it when it came out in 1994. I much prefer Shahak to Lenni Brenner–who can be unfair. ( But for whom I have a great deal of respect.)
Ex-ny’er. Right you are. The primer did specifically say that the desperation came (crystallized) from nazi oppression. Convoluted reasoning, to be sure.
Have you had any encounters with Stephen Zunes?:omg:
NickiRose, Fascinating. You have clarified much. Thank you (plus for book info and how to obtain it). May I ask what your opinion is?
:growl:bush & all his adm :spank:
IMPEACHMENT!!!(thx to KevinM)
VIGILANCE
:fire:
Opinion on what?:bow:
NickiRose, I believe that there are different philosophies, opinions, and/or even debate regarding the Israel/Palestinians issue.
:growl: bush & all his adm :spank:
IMPEACHMENT!!!(thx to KevinM)
VIGILANCE
:fire:
I am not :sdavid: but I feel that to bring Peace to that region has to be with certain religious Israel/Palestinians individuals and not with we non :sdavid: folk.
:growl: bush & all his adm:spank:
IMPEACHMENT!!!(thx to KevinM)
VIGILANCE
:fire:
True. I find that a lot of what Norman Finkelstein has to say on the matter resonates with me.
The main problem as I see it, is the huge power imbalance which exists. Israel can displace the Palestinians, create illegal settlements, build a hideous wall of separation, and the US has their back.
Ultimately, I believe that some sort of bi-national confederation between Israel and Palestine would be the best solution. The Jews have lived there too long to be forced to leave. As it stands, Israel’s nationalism gets in the way of bi-nationalism: “Israel is a Jewish nation.” Furthermore, there is little talk among the Palestinian masses for such a solution–although it is not hard to find such sentiment. So that leaves the UN 242 framework.
Will Israel abandon the big West Bank settlements? Not without pressure from the US.
What is the possibility of this occurring? Virtually none. Check out the Dems position on Israel. It is usually to the right of ther Republicans.
Therefore, are the Palestinians destined to live in bantustans?
That is where the next phase of the struggle comes in: The struggle for equal rights for Palestinians–both in Israel and in the Occupied Territories.
Bullshit! Non-Jewish Americans pay taxes. Israel is the beneficiary of much aid. US Government uses its dipomatic and military influence to enable Israel to continue being a pariah nation. Don’t let being non Jewish (or not a Palestinian) stop you from activating on this issue. It is an illusion to say that it is a religious struggle.: There are, of course, religious components to it.
:sdavid::priest::cres::nixon::rabbi::yinyang::menorah::peace::jesus:
Now the West Bank was given back to the Palestinians, which I agreed, ultimately. So what is happening now? I thought a rocky stasis occured?
:yawn:
:growl: bush & all his adm :spank:
IMPEACHMENT!!!(thx to KevinM)
VIGILANCE
Sorry, I see your point 😉 I am very, very religious (as you I think too) and when things are so heated a COUNCIL of Rabbis and Palestinians equivalent and perhaps, I guess, some fair and decent Christians should manipulate or orchestrate this situation — no longer politicians. BUT I SEE YOUR POINT:!: and agree. Now I have even another opinion. :smile::wink:
:yawn:
:growl: bush & all his adm :spank:
IMPEACHMENT!!!(thx to KevinM)
VIGILANCE
:fire:
Israel returned the Gaza; huge settlements remain on the West Bank. International law requires Israel to abandon all of the West Bank and East Jerusalem. Why does Israel not obey international law?
That’s right, Israel gave back the Gaza Strip. I think I am :yawn: I personally feel if we had a GOOD and REAL Pres the balance would occur. But Isreal will never work for peace if America looks like a toxic, weak :jerk:
I have to start shutting down :yawn: I am :yawn: still here for a wee bit longer. Thx so much for sharing your views with me.
:growl: bush & all his adm:spank:
IMPEACHMENT!!!(thx to KevinM)
VIGILANCE
:fire:
The Case of the Danish Cartoons
Is Liberalism a Failing Religion?
By EDWARD F. MOONEY
I was ready to learn from Stanley Fish about the insensitivity, not to mention the global dangers, of mocking your neighbor’s Religion. His NY Times Op-Ed (2/12/06) is billed as a response to the furor over Danish publication of cartoons of Mohammad. But as it turns out, Fish ducks discussing whether the cartoons were insensitive or blasphemous or ought not to have been solicited or published in a country that has marginalized its population of roughly 200,000 Muslims. What comes quickly into view for him is neither human suffering nor the blindness of the Copenhagen press but another inviting question. Is Liberalism believable?
The Danish fiasco prompts Fish to rehearse a witty polemic against a degenerate Religion posing as a respectable political tradition. As Fish would have it, Liberalism is not a hard won set of institutions that, among other things, tames religious zealotry. It’s just another sort of zealotry. He mocks our daylight assurance that historical Liberalism has tamped down religious violence, wars, and persecution, and raises our nighttime fear that Liberalism might be just another faith, another dogma on the block. Liberalism has worn a white hat far too long.
Yet why does Fish launch this letter in the midst of the present Muslim-Danish scandal? Perhaps pure fascination with the dubious equation “Liberalism is Religion” gives momentary relief from real-time headaches: Christian insensitivity to Islam; Islam’s measured and then violent reaction to the blasphemous cartoons; Editorial restraint in the name of decency. We might expect a national newspaper to show tact, or as the Danish editor has it, “self-censorship,” rather than lightheartedly depict Islam’s not-to-be depicted most revered figure.
Conventional taxonomy aside, Fish declares that Liberalism is Religion. It rests on dogmas like the “neutrality” of public space, makes a fetish of free speech, and enforces a powerful taboo against disrespecting your neighbor’s Religion…
http://www.counterpunch.com
And it’s about damn time she did!
with friends still living in camps, I can say that this has always been the struggle.
It has been always part of the struggle. What I meant was, since Israel refuses to leave the Occupied Territories, the Palestinians should strive to work towards ending Israeli apartheid in all of Palestine. (Have you ever read Elias Shakour’s “We Belong to the Land?”)
Transcend nationalism, I mean. The UN 242 framework cannot work given the realpolitiks dictated by the US. This gives the Palestinians the rights to live in bantustans. They can also leave. Working to end apartheid will mean that Israel will have to share the settlements, and the resources, etc.
Good morning, all. Farmerkat, I’m sorry to hear about Mr. Kat’s friend. That’s very sad.
I would weigh on in a topic but don’t feel well enough informed to do so! But I’m still here, lurking and learning….
Farmerkat, 😉 thanks again for info NickiRose–GoodSpeak.:smile:
I think I do not like what EDWARD F. MOONEY said
but I have to reread tomorrow.:yawn:
I will be around for a few minutes, but overall, I am shutting down home.
G’Night, G’Morning To All
:growl: bush & all his adm :spank:
IMPEACHMENT!!!(thx to KevinM)
VIGILANCE
:fire:
That’s how the uncompassionate are…nothing bothers them (not even cynically sending other people to kill and be killed or wounded in a specious war) unless it happens to THEM. Borderline psychopathy, if you ask me.
Hi all…still struggling in sick-land and unable to speak (which some aroudn here might think of as a good thing,) but Im squeaking alot and sorta getting by.
PJ I find that I have to check your rundown of the lineup every Sunday, so if you thought that you were gonna get out of this thing when AAR finally gets around to Marc’s show/blog…well, think again!
Anyway, looking at who is on the panel re: The Cheney Shooting (I still love that!) I am hoping that they really give it to Mary Matalin.
Say what you will about Imus…and I cant stand him, really….Mom was just tellig me that he put Matalin in the dirt the other day when she tried to spin the spun to him. He told her off big time and she actually backed down and apologized…is that possible?
I am looking for a clip of it.
Anyway, Meet the Pus is on early this AM on the east coast…9AM…in case anyone wants to go through the torture…
It is also podcast on iTunes in full for FREE!
OH my god…she is scary!!!! Who is styling her?? Its like halloween!
Hi Becky! did you hear that piece about Chamliss on Ring of Fire yesterday? It was really great to hear that others stuggle with that ass. (only heard poritons of ring, though)
Nickirose, no I haven’t read that one. Guess I’m a pragmatist in this. I spent time in Gaza, Ramallah and with Palestinians driving (or trying) to and from areas along the rubble roads bulldozed by the Israelis, and I saw the Palestinians struggling in places like Bethlehem where the Israelis try to control the tourists by bringing them in buses so that they can keep them away from the Palestinian shops (on the basis of “terra” and safety). I saw teachers struggling to teach children in camps in Gaza, I saw how millions of people in occupied Gaza had to endure road blocks and enormous traffic jams so that the Israelis could enjoy the main roads in safety. I saw the Gazans being forced to fish in polluted waters because the Israelis will not let them venture out. I met Palestinian men who had been tortured in Israeli prisons. I saw huge lines of people having to go through a check point starting in the dark of the day just to get to work in Israel, only to wait in the same line to get home at night. This is just a portion of the injustice I witnessed.
I dwell on the Palestinian issues because we don’t hear about this in the US. I felt angry that I’d have to temper my anger for fear of being called anti-semetic. I sat in an outdoor pizza area in a Jewish area when the people I was with said this was the type of places the Palestinians bomb. I saw a Tel Aviv nightclub just a few hours after it had been bombed killing young people I experienced the Israeli fear, too.
And I read today the news of how the Palestinians, God bless them, managed to open Parliament even though the Israelis won’t let them assemble together physically (had to use teleprompters).
So I’m really glad you bring the issue to the forefront.
Hey, Kat! I missed part of Ring of Fire, dammit. I really like that show….
Don’t know if this has already been posted but The Smoking Gun has the Cheney shooting report here. It goes on for a few pages….
:alc::nod::alc:woo hoo got good n drunk last night ok must go be back soon
pg 6 nytimes today:
Good Morning fellow Funny addicts.
Hey, Kristapea! I like the wig idea that you posted yesterday. Every little bit of urban guerrilla warfare helps….
Farmerkat, your moving post reminds me of Bob Dylan’s A Hard Rain’s Gonna Fall. We need to hear more from people like you who have “been there” and seen what life–under terrible conditions of war, poverty, oppression–is really like…. I wish we also could see more of the daily life of people in other countries. It’s easier for Americans to dismiss them as barbarians or whatever until they see them living pretty much as we do.
Here is the Mary Matalin vs. Imus clip. I havent heard it yet because Im sorta half listening to Matthews.
But its good to know that one can hear these things without actually having to listen to Imus. If Mom will just tell me what she thinks was good then I can just see if its here…cause the rest is crap…and, this is probably crap too.
Becky, this is timely! Kevin Sites on The yahoo hotzone is putting a face on the issue this week! (or it may have started last week)
Wigs are fun too!:tongue:
Hey, here’s a scary little company. Peruse their services. Imagine what the NSA could do, if we were unlucky enough to have a maniacal, power hungry, amoral, unethical sociopathic administration in power, with a judicial branch in their pockets, and a legislature full of cowardly enablers, shirking their oversight responsibilities.
I really hope that never happens.
Oh, and, um, keep you cell phones turned off.
Saw this on Google answers, about the same company:
:paranoid:
Here is a podcast of Senator Feingold on the Patriot Act. I think I like him. I have never seen him speak before. He seems to be the most consistent about resisting this administrations advances.
You know, this kind of info about tracking and shit, is good to have in the back of your mind when the time comes where you’ll have to think about turning your cell phone off or not even bringing it with you to the library where you’re going to look at some porn in a secret room that the library built for it’s “illegal collection”.:paranoid::paranoid:
hey pj, i’ve been told you have to take the battery OUT of the phone, not just turn it off. don’t know if anyone saw the episode of E-Ring where they used cell phones to listen (while the cell phone was NOT in use). writer/producer of E-ring is former ops guy and good pal who used this technology).
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Russ was a frequent guest on MS – YAY RUSS!
hey :fire:
Thanks for the Kevin Sites thing, Farmerkat. Looks very good.
Russ Feingold: :nod:
Yeah, I saw that E-Ring. Not sure how much license they take with what they can do, but it wouldn’t surprise me. My cell phone has a setting for “location” that has a choice between “location on” or “e-911 only.” I have mine one-911 only, but I have very little confidence that that really does anything. You’d really need to live off the grid out in Montana to stay invisible.
From your cell phone, telephone, Internet, library, medical, utilities, taxes, banking, EZ-Pass, grocery discount card, credit card, OnStar, you name it, records (all of which were already subject to warrantless, anonymous, gagged searches using National Security Letters under the USA PATRIOT Act, but even that isn’t good enough for this administration and their sleazy AG – who I think has less scruples than even John Ashcroft), not to mention sneak and peek searches, nearly everything you say and do is subject to secret scrutiny, and you’ll never know it, or how you got on the list. This means that if you get on the list by mistake, you’ll never be able to get off.
It’s very much like Kafka’s “The Trial.” Much more so than “1984.”
Next will be the RFID tags embedded in everything you buy. Great for checking out of the store, but also good for somebody with a reader driving by your house to see what you’ve got. Then will come the National ID card, with a Smart chip embedded in it, and readers embedded in streetlights, mailboxes, you name it. You’ll never know where they are, but they’ll be tracking you, to keep you safe from the terrists. In a generation or so, those chips will be embedded at birth. Oh, voluntarily, at first, I bet, with grandiose news stories about how little Jessica was rescued from the kidnappers or pulled out of the well, her life spared by that wonderful NannyChip 2040 embedded under her skin. And of course little Latoya, who might have lived, had her parents not denied her that lifesaving device. Only a horrible parent wouldn’t allow that. Hell, they’ll probably charge $49.99 at Wal-Mart (everyday low, low price, includes installation and activation!), and $12.95 a month for privilege.
It’s a brave new world.
Yes, I’ve been saying for a while now that I’ve somehow wandered into Kafkaland. i like to refer to the WHite House as “The Cahstle”.
Feingold was on Bill Maher Friday night. The more I hear from him, the more convinced I am that he should be the candidate in ’08.
He was ahead of the curve on the Patriot Act, on Iraq, Africa, AIDS, and on the NSA spying scandal.
I don’t see a better choice at this point.
Hello Seditionists! I, like Becky, am lurking and learning.re:#21? I would always like to at least say Hi when I check in to see you all. It feels kind of creepy to be here and say nothing.
Hey Melina, hope you feel better soon. Thanks for the Imus clip (although I feel like I need a shower after listening to him and Matalin – what a sleaze, she is. What an odd marriage). Imus spanked her once or twice, and outright laughed at her, but he’s still such a mumbling asskisser, and he thinks Dick Cheney is a real nice guy.
You know, I keep hearing from these Republican spinners how absurd it is to think that Cheney needed to sober up, and that he’d never have more than a beer. Nobody says, gee, how ’bout those 2 DUI’s he’s had?
Bastids. If I shot somebody, they’d shove a breathalyzer down my throat and haul my ass down to the pokey in two seconds flat.
Just one word:
jammers.
RFID’s use very low levels of radio power. One could build a RFID jammer in about 5 minutes that is about the size of a matchbook. If things get out of hand just build a bunch of them and drop them off all over the place. At some point the time and resources spent unjamming things will become excessive. There are other, more creative ways of mucking up the system that I will leave unsaid at this stage.
But, as I said yesterday and as pj implied in #45 above, it’s about psychology, not technology. If sheeple can be made to want this crap the political class (of both corrupt parties) will be glad to oblige.
The pokey huh, PJ 😀 you got that from the days they used to call homeless people hobos!:lol:
How many homes have you been in where the clock on the microwave is flashing 12:00? Some people could build jammers or take other countermeasures, but most would remain blissfully ignorant, and would probably pay for a grocery service that will monitor all of your items, and than automatically order, deliver, and bill your credit card as soon as it sees you need more bread, coffee, and pickles (hell, they installed new gas and electric meters around here a while back, so instead of a meter reader having to go door to door, they just drive down the street and record the readings wirelessly, and you know what? It’s kinda nice). Meanwhile, the feds can pay more attention to anyone who feels the need to jam all their RF signals, and use their super-duper de-jammifiers (or just do a sneak and peak and see what you’ve got going on).
Surveillance in one form or another has always been possible, but the sheer volume of data that can be collected has made it difficult to use – unless they already had a reason to single you out. But as storage and processing power become cheaper, and datamining techniques keep improving, it beomes more possible to flag certain individuals for greater scrutiny.
And, as Methaz writes, once you know they “might” be watching, and as they encourage neighbor to spy on neighbor, and after they haul a few people away never to be seen again, the rest of the :sheep: fall in line. How many of us already self-censor?
Actually, they referred to one of the interview rooms on NYPD Blue as “the pokey room.” Plus, I was always a Gumby fan (I think he and pokey were a little, you know – not that there’s anything wrong with that). I’m pretty sure Davey was doing Goliath, too.
No, I take that back. Goliath was doing Davey. Davey was definitely a bottom.
stop it :rofl2: you are dating me
I stopped self-censoring about 3 months ago. What I notice most is my massive amounts of junk mail and AARP!!!related stuff.
I think Marc’s latest communication should be placed on the front-page of the Blog. Not updating it when new news from Marc or AAR comes in makes no sense to me.
If I was Marc I’d think the tepid response to his remarks last would support his old problem with the blog. Despite the fact that everyone here pledges their support for him over and oer, when he DOES come here and inform us, we spend all our time questioning whether it’s REALLY him? Makes his supporters look like morons and it would prove that maybe he was right about us.
Kind a sad frankly…..
i kidnapped a stripper last night kidnapping strippers is sweet
even living in the boonies off the grid won’t help much anymore. my husband and i live 12 miles from the nearest paved road, phone line, and electrical line. we’ve lived here 27 years and watched as the county got better and better at figuring out what where all of us out here in our little community were. we all liked our privacy and worked hard to keep our lives private. for example, no one out here put names on the dirt roads. the only way someone could get to your house was for you to meet them on hwy 101 and have them follow you for an hour back into the hills.
the biggest change came about five or six years years ago with the advent of gis (geographical information system) maps and gps systems. a light plane flying overhead once or twice a year, and bingo, the county officials had maps that showed every dirt road, homestead cabin, and deer trail in excruciating detail. it’s easy now to download such maps on the internet (google earth, etc.). add in the gps capability, and a police officer/fbi agent/cointelpro undercover agent/cia operative can stand in the middle of nowhere, turn on his/her gps, and within seconds can pinpoint his/her location on the map.
the security shops these days all sell little gps units you can attach to the bottom of someone’s vehicle so that you can track the location of the vehicle no matter where it goes. sit in the comfort of your home and watch where the vehicle is going on a video screen.
i saw a cute little device on the internet last month about the size of a bowling ball that the police (or whoever) can throw into a yard. the device will take videos in four directions for 12 or 24 hours and send the videos back to someone interested in viewing them.
long distance microphones for hearing conversations and telescopes for viewing through the trees are old fashioned technologies that still work just fine.
i think methaz is right. we learned to cope with all of these innovations at the time they became available.
i’m keeping a list. wigs. random phone numbers. battery turned off in the cell phone. home-made jammer.
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Canuck- why would you say that? Marc knows that he has support here…through the letters that are sent to him from his page (and he also emails his mailing list,) and the huge outpouring that hes gotten all along. People are already sending him packages to the new studio and he knows those people are from here. Alot of us responded to that post as if it was a regular post. If we want to encourage him or anyone else to post here comfortably, I wouldnt suggest to PJ, (who is doing a fantastic job and would be the one to decide on this sort of thing,) to make a huge deal out of it.
How would you feel if your every post was put up front immediately?
I get sad everytime I see the heading on the first page that says “the end” because I feel the sadness all over again …and I would like to eventually see a heading that says “the beginning” which can have links and whatever about the new show. And if I were Marc or any of us I dont know if I want to enshrine the part of this story where he is fuc*ed over by AAR again and again.
Also, I dont see how Marc could have a problem with the old blog because his posts werent revered enough…? It doesnt make sense to me…but maybe I missed something.
Sean…you wish!….
Did you lure her back to your fancy truck with the shag carpeting on the ceiling??
Strippers really go for that.
Since youre so wired there in the sleeping cab maybe we can get a video feed of her tied up with teary eyes, and have our own little 24 Marathon;-)…heh heh…
sean, we kinda thought you were drunk somewhere having fun with a stripper last night. the clue was that you said you were going to take a shower before going out. then we didn’t hear from you for 12 or 14 hours. that sean, we said, he’s drunk somewhere with a stripper. :rofl2::banana::rofl2:
Foggy…and especially when he said he was going to the tittie bar…isnt that what he said? Shower + tittie bar – 12-14 hours = stripper!!!
i have a hotel room here in baltimore in a 4star? i think its a 4stasr hotel yeah so uh last night was good
Yes Melina-you said it. I did not see the reaction as tepid at all and if Marc had a problem with the previous blog, I think it would have been negative posts interfearing with the live show–good or bad.
I must have missed it too.
Anyway..we don’t see Maron as ‘Lord and Master’ It would be insulting to post his post front page.
:fist:word up sister
:banana::blech::banana:friggin sweet united states of leland is on yes this movie is super sweet
oh its only three stars but it is very nice very very nice anyway uh i let the stripper go i didnt want to get arrested for kidnapping and she uh agreed to not press charges because she enjoyed herself
oh wait three and a half stars so uh it is a whole half a star sweeter than it was to me two minutes ago
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But I’m not Marc Maron…
I don’t know – it just looks to me that this is a kind of a shrine to Marc Maron and Jim Earl, etc. We are here because we want to encourage their idea of political comedy and commentary. We see the value and believe it is the ONLY way to get the word out. Look at the success of the Daily Show and Colbert Report on TV. Actually radio is a BETTER medium than TV for this because it is VERY portable, can be enjoyed without being forced to sit down and stare at it, and can be almost infinite in its options.
It’s MUCH EASIER for talented people who understand the medium to create brilliant, incisive comedy and commentary on radio and these were the only guys I know doing it.
This does not mean that those that provide it are not of the same talent as those on TV, just that they have more options. They can create ANYTHING be it Radio Al Quada, or Radio Halliburton. You can do it on radio but on TV it would take longer, cost more and be compromised. Using people’s imaginations is the best canvass 😉
I don’t have ANY reluctance to say that I am here strictly to support that goal and I thought that’s what we all were doing here ;-).
Keep up the good work Marc…
Hey Sean!! I’m not ignoring you- I’m multi-tasking and I can only do one thing at a time.
melina and sistertea, i agree with you. the response to marc’s post was huge joy once pj told us that it really was marc who had written the comment. our hearts are on our sleeves about marc. we’re still in shock that aar could dump marc’s show. we don’t want to be fooled by someone coming around, pretending to be marc, and getting our hopes up if they’re just doing it for a joke.
travis posted marc’s comment as the #1 comment the next morning after it was received the previous night. if canuck is suggesting that we have to post marc’s comment on every single blog every single day, that would be silly. i’m sure marc would be embarrassed by such a nonsensical display.
after hearing from marc we spent the day discussing what gadgets to buy so we could hear marc’s new show, and we talked about changing our sleeping habits so we could tune in. it’s obvious we’re counting the minutes until marc’s new show actually appears.
canuck, don’t be sad. all is well.:peace:
PJ, great opener today – thank you for giving me a capsule of the Sunday talk shows I refuse to watch. Morning/afternoon, all!
Damn, I missed the post from Marc…so I’m glad you all mentioned it. I need to be more VIGILANT in my blog reading here, especially if the Talent is going to check in. 😎
I can’t believe it’s only been two months since Marc left the airwaves. Seems like it’s been much, much longer.
I’m listening to an old Rapture Watch just to reminisce….
:alc:oh hey guess what sheeple there is a new buffalo beast out so here is the link to this wonderfull bi-weekly news publication ENJOY!!!!!
I am bout half-way through the last live show. I taped it the old fashion way–I have no gadgets–unless that is against the law–then I did’t
I mean Did Not tape that last live show.
damn it i forgot to put the link in oh well here it is sorry sheeple
When you say front page of the blog, canuck, do you mean here, on the blog, or on the front morning seditionists page? By the way, although I didn’t announce it (mostly to see who’d be paying attention), I put marc’s latest communique over there on the right, under “pages;” it’s the link that says, “Brother Maron Speaks to the Maronites.”
Also, Marc (and Mark and Kent and Jim) have an open offer to not only comment here, but to write their own posts, send me anything they’d like posted, or, well, make any suggestions they’d like.
My guess is that Marc desn’t spend too much time with this, since he’s busy trying to get his new show ready, and probably wanting to put the old show behind him to some extent. At the start of AAR, he became a “blog bitch,” and obsessed over every “why aren’t you talking about the issues! We’re fighting for our lives here!” comment that got posted. I think he probably got over that.
In fact, I think Marc and Mark and the rest of the crew really started to see how much they were appreciated when they started doing the live shows. You could hear it in their voices, and, let me tell, that last live show was fucking fantastic. A lot of love in that room, and joy, and some sadness, too.
I was never really sure what would happen with this site. I considered having a bunch of “authors” to write multiple threads (kind of like a Daily Kos), but with more “stuff” comes more confusion, and lots of posts get lost in the shuffle (as it is the Far East seditionists get kind of broken in the middle of their “evening shift” each morning). In the end, it seemed best to somewhat emulate the old blog, and have a daily (maybe two, depending on activity and events) thread, with people commenting. Frankly, I didn’t anticipate 100 comments in a day, let alone before 10AM.
So, yeah, maybe I could do a better job with everything. I kind of pulled this together in a hurry.
Can I ask you all to help me with a dilemma that is not too off-topic? You’re a good conscientious bunch, so I’m curious to know what you think of my dilemma. Should I quit Netflix, yes or no? A neighbor of mine told me last night that Walmart bought Netflix. This morning I googled a bit and found that that’s not exactly true – Netflix took over Walmart’s mail-order dvd service, and they agreed to promote each other’s websites, but the most recent stuff I could find on this was from May. Further, and this is something I have not been able to verify but it sounds so plausible, my neighborhood independent movie rental store says Netflix’ ceo was quoted as saying they are out to put the small stores like his out of business. I would be paying more per movie if I go with him and have to return them in two days, whereas with Netflix there’s no due date – an arrangement that much more suits my sometimes chaotic schedule and lifestyle and tv/computer/phone/reading needs.Maybe going with neighborhood guy would make me a bit more organized with my time – I would have to know that I’ll have an hour, hour and a half in the next two days during which time I’ll actually sit and watch; right now the Netflix films sometimes sit for a couple of weeks before I get to them.
On a labor email list I’m on I read that Neflix’ ceo has gotten onto the board of the Screen Actor’s Guild, and that’s controversial because he can help make decisions about marketing and distribution that will direclty benefit his company. What say you all? Cancel? I’m ready to do it, I just want to think this over and have some input. Whaddayou all think:?:
It’s easy to focus on the bad stuff, and get really dark. But as pj said the technology that can be used for monitoring by the gov can also make life easier.
And it’s easy to say that Diebold stole the last election, or the SCOTUS did in ’00, but I think the point needs repeating that whatever the noise level, the current administration legitimately got approximately half the vote, and that only about half the people that could have voted did so. You can steal a close election (couple % points). If it was a 60/40 thing, I don’t think it would work nearly as well. As has been discussed here, the media is a major problem since it doesn’t report – it parrots.
Are we on the verge of a police state? I think we are on that road, and certainly the mechanics of such a state are being put in to place either intentionally or (most likely) unintentionally. Probably the greatest threat is that most people think it can’t happen here. But there are still significant opportunities to change directions. And that won’t come by giving in to our fears and sounding kooky to the unwashed. Sure, keep an eye on things and raise a calm, measured alarm. But let the neocon’s play the fear game – yeah, it works in the short run, but not in the long haul.
I strongly believe that a movement of hope and opportunity that concentrates on governing effectively and meeting the needs of the people in the least instrusive way possible would attract people from most of the political spectrum. The R’s should have been that party – but have given in to the Dark Side in the form of the NeoCons. The Dems could be that party – but only with a spine implant and some radical surgery to get rid of the DINO’s and triangulators.
And I think the Dems could attract disaffected conservatives without pissing off you left wing wacko’s 😆 too much if they used a smart strategy. A third party is barely possible, but not likely, since the game in the US is so rigged.
So I guess I’m sort of hopeful. It is under some serious stress, but the system can work. If things get out of hand and we need to monkey wrench the process, we can. But that time has not yet come, not by a long shot.
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The front page…
I understand how you are doing this in your spare time and it’s MUCH appreciated by all. Just thought some revolving “News” on the Home page would be of use and help spark interest. Not a lot – just whenever there IS news ;-).
Dick
(yes that’s my real name – sorry;-))
An alert Seditionist has tipped me off to a short film starring Marc Maron called “Stalker Guild Sydrome.” Maybe y’all have heard of it, but I hadn’t, so it was a pleasant surprise. There’s a link under multimedia, or you can just use this one. You can choose various bitrates and formats. I chose the 300k one, but it came in slowly, so I wound up killing the sound an letting it load about halfway. then starting from the beginning. Your mileage may vary.
PJ, you do know a bunch of us did see Marc’s post right when he posted late late late Thursday night/Friday morning (and yes, I confess I did doubt, but with extenuating circumstances, er, good reasons, that I explained), but I hope everyone who hasn’t seen it will click on Brother Marc Speaks to the Maronites, under the Pages heading off to your right. 😀
😯 What’s you talkin’ ’bout, PJ?? 😯
You’re the Best! :banana:
ny’er how could you use net-flix when you have a neighborhood independent rental shop!!!!! i could see if i was at home using netflix but that is because there are no indy stores within walking distance only blockbuster (three of them) and as we all know they are by no means small or independent so i think what you should do is cancel your netflix subscription and march right over to the indy shop and rent united states of leland because uh it is awesome it has don cheadle ryan gosling kevin spacey and jena malone in it well i think it has jena malone but i could be wrong i will go to imdb and find out ok well CANCEL
pj – the bananna dances for YOU :banana:
stupid friggin canucks!!!!! ha so where you at in canuckida canuck?
Yeah, well I e-mailed him shortly before I crashed that night, and set him up with a login and password. He posted at a bit before midnight, Pacific, which is three AM and past my bedtime here in NYS. I figured he was busy, but I thought I’d make it as easy as possible to stop by and say hello. In fact, he e-mailed me back and said he couldn’t log in (I get more of those than you might think 😉 ), and then he went to the trouble of setting up his own log in so he could post, which I thought was cool of him.
The next day, he e-mailed me back asking me to clarify that the show would be 10PM to 12AM. “Paul-” he said (he calls me Paul, in that way two guys who are really tight pretend they don’t know each other’s names), “can you change that?”
So I said “sure thing, Mitch.”
Anyhow, I’m pretty certain that it was all the e-mails from folks here that got AAR to put that “Where’s Maron” thing up on their page. I hope they realize that they’d better get their shit togehter, because hell hath no fury like a seditionist scorned. And they done scorned the shit out of us already.
OK—I’m dizzy now.
We get news coming from all directions–but mostly you have to look for it–the real stuff–I hear the news but you need reaction and more info to get the news.
I get that here so I can be entertained as well.
thx methaz, i’m with ya even though i’m probably not quite as optimistic as you are. we’ll see when we see.
fortunately i keep on fighting even when i don’t think there’s much chance of winning. but i’ll probably be more sneaky about my efforts in the years to come. i don’t think being sneaky is the same as self-censoring at all.
makes me mad that the democrats have to get 60% of the vote in order to win and the republicans only need 41%, but that’s what a lot of folks who are fighting the diebold stronghold these days say, too.
hope your cats are doing well. butch the cat lives!
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vigilance!
I have a “bootleg” copy of that show, recorded right there from the front row (well, to the extent that they have rows; from the booth right in front of where they were set up – right in front of Jim Earl and the chicken girl) of O’Neal’s. As I’ve probably written too many times, it was even my birthday.
I see. It’s apolitical Sunday.:omg:
Why aren’t we talking about the issues? We’re fighting for our liveshere!
PJ, this is only my second week participating on a blog, and I have no others to judge by, execpt for the peek I took at dailycos last week. I couldn’t make heads or tails of the chronology of the posts there. All those indentations under indentations under more indentations, confuses me no end. I think you do just fine with this one, and I love your commentary too, like the opener for today’s blog :bow: And I second Brother Canuck’s suggestion for some kind of news entry somewhere on the page (ticker tape style? would that be too annoying? or some other format?) Thanks PJ :peace:
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Thanks pj! That adds to the experience knowing that. This is the first time I’ve listened to it since ‘the end’
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I have ADD at times I have a hell of a time posting in a timely manner–I find the Seditionists are for the most part a forgiving bunch
Ok, die Netflix – you just lost me, thank you Sean! Please advise me how I am to get this copy of Molly Ivins reading Bushwhacked to you. Maybe I posted too late last night for you to catch – it’s done and ready for you! :cake:
United States of Leland, eh? Never heard of it, but I will ask at Poppa Opps (that’s the name of the neighborhood movie rental store).
Shame on me for patronizing corporate scum when I had an indy. Forgive me for I have indeed sinned. Wahhhhh. :priest::sdavid::rabbi::cres: Grovel. :bow: Whimper 🙁
Won’t do it again :no:
Plot Summary for
The United States of Leland (2003)
Soft-spoken 15-year old Leland Fitzgerald (Gosling) commits a seemingly senseless murder that shocks his community, affecting both his victim’s family and his own. Arrested and imprisoned in a juvenile detention facility, Leland comes in contact with an aspiring writer and prison teacher, Pearl Madison (Cheadle). As Pearl delves into the mystery of Leland’s crime, he also sees the chance for a career-making book as the boy’s estranged father is the world-renowned author, Albert Fitzgerald (Spacey).
its kind of like capote but different anywho
Hey, doesn’t seeking advice about and redemption for needlessly patronizing (as opposed to the times we have no f’in choice) corporate scum count as somewhat political? Or at least good and appropirate MS participation? To paraphrase DINO she-beast who shall remail nameless, it takes a community…:grin:
Sounds good, Sean, I’ll rent it! Don’t forget you have a copy of Bushwhacked on cd waiting for you.
pj, i love how this blog works. i’m like sistertea, a little ADD, but following the multiple conversations in a chronological order here works just great for me. nothing complicated. we all get to see and hear each other’s posts. plus the icons. we get to talk with the best icons on the web.
thanks pj. :alc::jesus::cake::fire:
the aviator is on starz yay good movie
nickyrose, i think maybe the discussion about the police state might qualify as political. so does ny’er’s query about video purchases, farmerkat’s description of palestinian camps, pj’s intro, melina’s clip on matalin…. come on, nickyrose, if you ignore sean’s shower and its aftermath, this blog is loaded to the hilt with politics.
I escaped in “Flight Of The Navigator” last night.
I have been trying to lighten up. :bong:would go good
I forgot about Seans stripper–did he feed her? A good stripper has got to eat.
It was a her right?
Israeli Cabinet OKs Economic Sanctions
By AMY TIEBEL
Associated Press Writer
February 19, 2006, 6:18 AM EST
JERUSALEM — The Israeli Cabinet on Sunday approved a halt in monthly transfers of tens of millions of dollars to the Palestinians, in the first response to Hamas taking control of the Palestinian parliament.
The decision came a day after a new Hamas-dominated Palestinian legislature was sworn into office. Israel had warned relations with the Palestinians would suffer the moment Hamas entered parliament. The group has killed hundreds of Israelis in suicide bombings and remains committed to Israel’s destruction.
On Sunday, Hamas nominated Gaza lawmaker Ismail Haniyeh to be Palestinian prime minister, a widely expected move announced in a text message sent to reporters. Haniyeh is seen as a leader of the militant group’s pragmatic wing and has good working relations with the rival Fatah movement.
Israel collects and transfers about $50 million in tax money for the Palestinians each month. The money is essential for the Palestinian Authority to meet its monthly payroll for about 140,000 workers.
The Israeli ministers also urged the international community to withhold most aid to the Palestinian Authority, though it said humanitarian assistance should continue. But they stopped short of more drastic measures, including sealing off the Gaza Strip, favored by security officials.
Acting Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert ruled out all contact with Hamas, though he assured Israel had “no intention of hurting the humanitarian needs of the Palestinian people.”
“Given the Hamas majority in parliament … the Palestinian Authority becomes in effect a terror authority,” Olmert told the Cabinet. “Israel won’t agree to that.”
Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas was expected later Sunday to formally give Haniyeh the task of putting together a new Cabinet. Haniyeh would then have three weeks to submit a government to Abbas for approval.
Addressing the parliament on Saturday, Abbas said he expected Hamas to honor existing peace accords with Israel and halt violence. Hamas leaders rejected those calls, but signaled a willingness to compromise.
Born in Gaza’s Shati refugee camp, Haniyeh graduated from Gaza City’s Islamic University in 1987 with a degree in Arabic literature and became a close associate of Hamas founder Sheik Ahmed Yassin.
Haniyeh was expelled by Israel to south Lebanon in 1992, returned to Gaza a year later and became the dean of the Islamic University. In 1998, he took charge of Yassin’s office.
A pragmatist, he served as a liaison between Hamas and Palestinian Authority, established in 1994 and dominated by the rival Fatah movement.
He rose to prominence after Israel’s assassinations in 2004 of Yassin and Yassin’s successor, Abdel Aziz Rantisi. He has been a member of the political leadership of Hamas since the 1990s.
Copyright 2006 Newsday Inc.
ex- I am close friends with the indy video guy here and hes been on the verge of closing down off and on for a while because of complicated real estate things and his health…anyway, I never did Netflix because of that, nor would I step foot in blockbuster. Now a shiny new indy video store has opened across the street and I never will ever step foot in there…even if my friend closes down!
So, on new year’s day I was watching a marathon of 24, season one, which I havdnt seen. Its a great season of a fantastic show and I got really into it. well at midnight (my time, not Jack Bauer time) they stopped showing it and cut to paid programming. Anyway, a friend of mine who is in NM sent me a 2 week trial of Netflix to just finish up the season. I didnt think that my friedn had it and whatever…so I got the rest but for some reason they put me on one at a time. So I wasnt finished by the time the re-up came, and i had reset it to 3 at a time, but they wouldnt change it till the re-up…anyway, I got suckered into another month and the lst disc of the season was screwed up so I missed the end of the last episode. Now Im midway through another season…there dont seem to be any movies I really want to see and I see that my friend has the few that I would consider in new releases, so IM ont gonna get ’em from Netflix…
Its convenient but I think its expensive and also if the disc is screwed up I like to go and talk to my friend.
Im terribly busy, but there is something to be said for having to go over and see a bunch of locals who hang out at this video, collectibles, card, and strange stuff store;-)
We dont have much neighborhood here, and I guess this is it.
I also realize that if it takes me a month to get through a season of 24 and that costs $18, I might as well throw in another $10 or so and just buy it used on Amazon….
I also find the discs to be dirty. If they charge a premium I think that should clean the discs between customers.
So, Im quitting too.
I also dont like any Walmart connection if I can at all avoid it.
I completely support your decision to quit…and you’ll save money. Just dont rent unless you have the time that exact night…and if you become friends with the storeowner he will let you slide on the late fees…though I sorta insist because the video rental business is going down the tubes.
Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha……
huh feed the stripper? no she didnt look like she eats too much. anyway i did offer to order room service but she said she was ok and not to worry about it.
:banana::smile:sweet the senate hearings part of the aviator was just on good stuff good stuff
here is a quote from the united states of leland movie
Leland: [in back of police car talking to cop] Do you have a normal radio in here for music?
Leland: I was just thinking that when you’re parked somewhere waiting for a guy to speed, you’d want some music to help pass the time.
Buying local is the one thing all of us can do.
So many people think they can’t help where our country is headed. Most of us can aford the money and time it takes to buy local. And it also keeps us in touch with real people. It just seems so simple but I have to keep reminding myself.
Harvey Wasserman is going to be on “Ring of Fire.” I know. It’s a rerun. Wasserman is an unconventional researcher. It was him as much as anyone who convinced me that the Republican Dominionists are using voting machines to ensure their creeps get elected.
:nixon:
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March 1989, Page 40
Book Review
The Birth of Israel: Myths And Realities
By Simha Flapan. New York: Pantheon, 1987. 277 pp. $6.95 (paper).
Reviewed by Andrew I. Killgore
“Palestine will become as Jewish as England is English.”—Chaim Weizmann, first president of Israel in his autobiography, Trial and Error.
A dimly lit chamber, a spotlight focused on a massive table at the center. On the table a beautifully wrapped package labeled: Israel, America’s Strategic Ally.
Seven pencil-thin legs “support” the table. And a surrealistic touch out of Salvador Dali: the legs do not quite reach the floor.
The subject is not levitation. In a literal sense, it is a review of Simha Flapan’s seminal book The Birth of Israel: Myths and Realities, in which the Israeli author demolishes, based on irrefutable Israeli sources, the seven basic myths upon which an aggressive Israel has depicted itself as the victim of aggression and on which it asserts a claim to be America’s valuable ally.
The most egregious of the seven delusions is that 750,000 Palestinians fled their homes in 1948-1949 in response to calls from their leaders, who asked them to get out of the way temporarily while the Jews were driven into the sea. Flapan poignantly concedes that he, like most Israelis, accepted this and the other six myths as the core of Israel’s self-perception.
A Question of Self-Defense?
Flapan’s explanation is that Israel, one of the most powerful military forces in the world, sees itself after the holocaust the victim of unconquerable, bloodthirsty enemies. Thus anything is justified as last-ditch self-defense. Even Americans questioning the myths can “justifiably” be labeled anti-Semitic or self-hating Jews, depending on their religion. . .
oh my god NOOOOOOO friggin the movie cursed is on this movie sucks so friggin hard ugh and the movie stations were on such a good roll in the hotel room today FUUUUCCCCCCKKKK
Buying local – I’ve been a big advocate of that for years. Won’t go in a Blockbuster, and I won’t patronize Amazon unless I absolutely have to – they’re helping put indy booksellers out of business, aren’t they? But I succumbed to the lure of Netflix because of the convenience factor. We’re lucky in this neighborhood I live in to still have a smattering of family owned and opeated businesses, including *two* of the best indy movie theaters in the city, where I always go to see new releases – Syrians is playing at one of them right now. I’ve signed petitions to keep Starbucks, Petco, Walgreens and other corporate business out of different neighborhoods I’ve live in here in SF (I don’t call it The City, because that’s what the Comicle smugly calls it, as if it’s the only city around – I had enough of that, having grown up thinking NYC was the only city on the planet).
All good points, SisterTea, NickiRose and all, about this buy local issue, I’m the one always telling my friends and family to buy local, and believe me I was reluctant to join Netflix, refused to for a year or so. I gave up the cell phone and car years ago too, so this is certainly easier by comparison. Joined City Car Share, have five bicycles, buy all my food at farmers markets and the two remaining food co-ops we have here (Rainbow Grocery and Other Avenues).
Personal choices are a start, I know that. So I’m not perfect, I know some of you think how hypocritical of me, but hey, at least I’m not selling drugs to religious fanatics to fund other religious fanatics, like Ollie North, John Negroponte and those other Reagan era re-treads did…(I suppose you all know Ollie North has his own radio show back east somewhere? A friend of mine listens to it sometimes, I refuse).
Book Review
Review by Morris Halle
Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years, Foreword by Gore Vidal, By Israel Shihak; Pluto Press, London, England and Boulder, Colorado.
The author of this book, Israel Shahak, a retired professor of chemistry at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, was born in Warsaw in 1933 and was one of the tiny minority of Polish Jews who survived the war in a concentration camp. He came to Palestine in 1945, was educated there, served in the Israeli military, and since the 1960s has been a leading advocate of human rights in the state of Israel.
An important part of Shahak’s book is his expose of and an attack on the views on non-Jews held by the main proponents of Judaism, especially in its traditional orthodox form. It will come as a surprise to many readers that the attitude of traditional orthodox Judaism towards non-Jews is one of unrelenting and offensive hostility. The offensiveness is overtly manifest in the standard Yiddish terms for gentile boy/girl sheygets/shikse, which, as Shahak points out, are derivatives of the Hebrew meaning for “abominate.” Persons not versed in contemporary Jewish culture and religion will no doubt regard this as a quaint linguistic survival of a time and an ideology long dead, as, for example, the phrase “I am your obedient servant, Sir,” still found even today at the end of letters to editors of British journals. Were not the Jews too often on the receiving end of this type of xenophobia and racism to indulge in it themselves? Unfortunately the answer to this almost rhetorical question must be “no.” The evidence marshaled in Shahak’s book clearly shows that the Yiddish words accurately reflect the hostile attitude towards non-Jews that has pervaded orthodox Judaism through its entire history from the Talmud down to the official opinions of orthodox rabbis written just before Shahak’s book.
It must be noted that the attitudes documented in Shahak’s book are not representative of many. Perhaps even a majority of Jews would reject such attitudes and would assert that they had never–or only rarely–been exposed to this type of xenophobia. Since there is no reason to doubt such assertions we must ask why most of us have been so ignorant of this important matter (and because of our ignorance have failed to confront it). According to Shahak, our ignorance is due to the efforts of a small, but influential, group to prevent the facts from being known.
Shahak provides extensive documentation from the writings of individuals with such impeccable political and scholarly credentials as Martin Buber and Gerschom Scholem, as well as of a host of lesser writers, where offensive passages in rabbinical texts were omitted in translations into English, where euphemisms were used to disguise the plain (and offensive) meaning of the text, or where writers knowingly offered false or misleading interpretations of such passages. According to Shahak these intellectuals “lie out of patriotism because they believe that it is their duty to lie for what they conceive to be Jewish interest.” They are abetted in this by non-Jews who “hold the curious opinion that one way to `atone’ for the persecution of Jews is not to speak out against the evil perpetrated by Jews but to participate in `white lies’ about them.”
The views that Shahak exposes are those of classical rabbinical Judaism, which almost completely dominated Jewish life from the beginning of the Middle Ages until well into the 18th and 19th centuries. Although to-day rabbinical Judaism no longer dominates Jewish life to the extent it once did, it still wields great influence which, like that of fundamentalism elsewhere, is growing at an alarming pace. I cite a few of Shahak’s examples.
The Talmud instructs Jews “to burn, publicly if possible, any copy of the New Testament that comes into their hands.” We learn from Shahak that “this is not only still in force but actually practiced today; thus on March 23, 1980 hundreds of copies of the New Testament were publicly and ceremonially burned in Jerusalem under the auspices of Yad Le’akhim, a Jewish religious organization subsidized by the Israeli Ministry of Religions.”
Maimonides, the greatest medieval Jewish authority on matters of religion, teaches in his Book of Knowledge that it is a duty to exterminate “with one’s own hands” Jewish infidels “such as Jesus of Nazareth and his pupils, and Tzadoq and Baitos [the founders of a Jewish sect active in the second century BC] and their pupils, may the name of the wicked rot.”
In his Guide to the Perplexed “justly considered to be the greatest work of Jewish religious philosophy,” Maimonides explains that “some of the Turks…and the Blacks (kushim = Africans) and the nomads in the South” are incapable of attaining the true worship of God because “their nature is like the nature of mute animals, and, according to my opinion, they are not on the level of human beings…”
The same racist attitude is found in the Tanya, an important late 18th century text composed by Shneur Zalman, founder of the Lubavitcher hassidism. Shahak writes: “According to this book, all non-Jews are totally satanic creatures `in whom there is absolutely nothing good.’ Even a non-Jewish embryo is qualitatively different from a Jewish one. The very existence of a non-Jew is `inessential’, whereas all of creation was created solely for the sake of the Jews.” These views have not been repudiated by modern Lubavitchers, who are quite visible on university campuses, both in the United States and in Israel.
Shahak quotes the correspondence between an Israeli soldier and his rabbi that was published in the 1974 yearbook of an Israeli religious college where many leaders of the National Religious Party and of the Gush Emunim have been educated. The soldier asks for advice about the treatment of unarmed civilians, specifically Arab women and children. Since the letters are long I quote here only the conclusions that the soldier draws from his rabbi’s advice; a blatant incitement to murder.
“As for the letter itself, I have understood as follows: In wartime I am not merely permitted, but enjoined to kill every Arab man and woman whom I chance upon, if there is reason to fear that they help in the war against us, directly or indirectly. And as far as I am concerned I have to kill them even if that might result in an involvement with military law. I think that this matter of purity of weapons should be transmitted to educational institutions, at least the religious ones, so that they should have a position about this subject and so that they will not wander in the broad fields of `logic,’ especially on this subject; and the rule has to be explained as it should be followed in practice. For, I am sorry to say, I have seen different types of `logic’ here even among religious comrades. I do hope that you shall be active in this, so that our boys will know the line of their ancestors clearly and unambiguously.”
Dr. Baruch Goldstein, the orthodox Jew responsible for the recent massacre in Hebron, did not appear out of a void. His action was a consequence of the same rabbinical incitement to murder as that reflected in the letter quoted above, and the incitements in turn are a logical outgrowth of the general xenophobia and racism of classical rabbinical Judaism that Shahak’s book exposes.
Shahak finds the main explanation for this state of affairs in the history of the Jews. According to Shahak during the period of classical rabbinical Judaism–i.e., from the Middle Ages until the end of the 18th century–the Jews constituted an outcast of feudal society. They were outside of the society to which the majority belong, yet in Christian Europe and in the Moslem countries of the Near and Middle East, the Jews maintained close ties to the ruling feudal elites, at whose bidding they performed all manner of tasks, including tax collection, estate management, money lending, production and sale of intoxicants, and engaged in trades such as tailoring, shoe making, etc. Although many of these activities provided a large fraction of the incomes of the elites, they were regarded as improper for the elites to engage in directly. Shahak also points out that during the period of classical Judaism, the overwhelming majority of the world’s population were peasants working the land, yet there were no Jewish peasants. Rather, as noted above, Jews made up a large fraction of the classes whose economic role it was to extract from the peasants the maximum of goods, money, and work possible.
It is these two facts that, according to Shahak, explain the unrelenting and offensive hostility towards gentiles on the part of classical Judaism documented above. They also explain many characteristics of the anti-Jewish pogroms that are such a common feature of Jewish history. According to Shahak, these were “part of a peasant rebellion or other popular movements at times when the government was for some reason especially weak,” for the ruling elites usually defended the Jews. This defense was conducted “neither out of considerations of humanity, nor because of sympathy to the Jews, but for the type of reason used generally by rulers in justification of their interests–the fact that the Jews were useful and profitable to them, defense of `law and order,’ hatred of the lower classes and fear that anti-Jewish riots might develop into general popular rebellion.”
It is one of the failures of Jewish historiography not to have educated Jews as to the true character of these pogroms.
“… revolts of oppressed peasants against their masters and their masters’ bailiffs are common in human historyDo decent English historians, even when noting the massacres of Englishmen by rebellious Irish peasants rising against their enslavement, condemn the latter as ‘anti-English’ racists? What is the attitude of progressive French historians towards the great slave revolution in Santo Domingo, where many French women and children were butchered? To ask the question is to answer it. But to ask a similar question of many `progressive’ or even `socialist’ Jewish circles is to receive a very different answer: here an enslaved peasant is transformed into a racist monster, if Jews profited from his state of slavery and exploitation.”
And this indiscriminate and ahistorical lumping together of peasant uprisings with the Nazi attempt to destroy the Jews is used now to justify the oppression of the Palestinian Arabs. It also constitutes an immense obstacle to arriving at any rational accommodation with the Arabs among whom the Jews of the state of Israel will always have to exist. “For insane as it sounds…one of the most deep-seated ideological sources of the Zionist [sic] establishment’s persistent hostility towards the Palestinians is the fact that they are identified in the minds of many east-European Jews with the rebellious east-European peasants who participated in the [1648] Chmielnicki uprising and in similar revolts–and the latter are in turn identified ahistorically with modern anti-Semitism and Nazism.”
While Shahak’s main point is no doubt correct, he seems to me to underestimate the depth and breadth of Judeophobia in Christian Europe and its role in laying the groundwork for the Holocaust. The xenophobia for which Shahak rightly denounces rabbinical Judaism is–I fear–a failing to which all humans are subject more or less equally, and against which women and men of good will must be constantly on guard.
Many will no doubt dismiss Shahak’s book as yet another anti-Zionist tract. Others might fear that the facts presented in Shahak’s book gives aid and comfort to Judeophobes the world over. There is no escaping the fact that questionable or criminal acts by Jews will be used by Jew-haters to gain support for their cause. They will use facts where they can find them and falsehoods when facts are lacking. We cannot afford to hide our history because of what our enemies might make of it. This surely has been the attitude of the greatest writers in Jewish history, from the prophets Amos and Jeremiah down to the major figures in the secular literature in Yiddish and Hebrew of the 19th and 20th centuries, which, as Shahak points out, was extremely critical of rabbinical Judaism.
These critical voices were stilled or greatly muted in the aftermath of the Holocaust, and the tragic events were seen by many Jews as vindicating the segregationist stance of orthodox Judaism. As a consequence we have been witnessing the rise of an aggressive form of religious fanaticism among Jews, in Israel as well as elsewhere, especially in the United States. To curb its further development it is necessary to lay bare the ideological sources that nourish this fanaticism. Not surprisingly they are an integral part of classical rabbinical Judaism, the religion of the Jewish middle ages. The xenophobia promoted by orthodox Judaism not only fosters acts such as those of Dr. Baruch Goldstein, it also serves to cloud the vision of both leaders and ordinary citizens. These medieval ways of thinking and acting constitute a clear danger and must be resolutely criticized and actively opposed.
Professor Shahak makes an eloquent appeal for such criticism and opposition: “The maxim that those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it applies to those Jews who refuse to come to terms with the Jewish past… The state of Israel now fulfills towards the oppressed peasants of many countries–not only in the Middle East but also far beyond it–a role not unlike that of the Jews in pre-1795 Poland: that of a bailiff to the imperial oppressor. It is characteristic and instructive that Israel’s major role in arming the forces of the Somoza regime in Nicaragua, and those of Guatemala, El Salvador, Chile, and the rest has not given rise to any wide public debate in Israel or among organized Jewish communities in the Diaspora. Even the narrower question of expediency–whether the selling of weapons to a dictatorial butcher of freedom fighters and peasants is in the long term interest of Jews–is seldom asked.”
“The only possible answer to all this, first of all by Jews, must be…[to] confront the Jewish past and those aspects of the present which are based simultaneously on lying about the past and worshipping it… Without fear or favor, we must speak out against what belongs to our own past…”
“The most important part of such a critique must be detailed and honest confrontation of the Jewish attitude to non-Jews. This is what many Jews justly demand from non-Jews: to confront their own past and so become aware of the discrimination and persecutions inflected on the Jews… Although the struggles against anti-Semitism (and all other forms of racism) should never cease, the struggle against Jewish chauvinism and exclusivism…is now of equal or greater importance.”
The issues that this book raises go to the heart of what it means to be a Jew in our times, and their resolution will determine the course of Jewish history for generations. It is my hope that enough people will read this important book to make it impossible for it to be ignored, and that as a result the issues that the book raises will be debated in public, so that they may be dealt with openly and rationally.
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the beast does movie reviews :rofl2::rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:
heres a section of the beast review of matchpoint
Match Point takes place in London and follows a former tennis pro (Jonathan Rhys-Meyers) as he’s accepted into an aristocratic old money family and somehow still finds the ability to make incredibly bad decisions as he diddles his soon-to-be sister-in-law (Scarlett Johansson). It started off interesting enough, but once the honeymoon period wore off, my friend and I were left to our own devices to make the movie engaging.
We were like Homer Simpson at the opera. We made fart noises, talked in “Monty Python” voices, hell—we even mooned the screen. My friend shrieked “Catholic guilt” and spoke in tongues as she started throwing individual birth control pills at the screen. She pulled out the biggest dildo I’ve seen in my life and stood up, shaking it like a magic wand at the screen and demanding Woody Allen’s head on a spit. That thing had some jiggle.
:rant1:hey friggin sin city didnt get friggin nominated for an oscar what the fuck BULLSHIT :growl:
ha ha NASCAR accidents are sweet
So you like strippers, eh Sean? Just as long as you treat ’em well (uh, whatever *that* means). Whaddayou mean you couldn’t decline to go with the others? Did they handcuff you and frogmarch you into the strip club? :alc: Gee, what about the female truckers, do they go to the strip clubs too? Male strip clubs? Personally, I can’t see spectating while someone strips for a bunch of other people, I’d rather have them all to myself. That’s where I fall down in the socialist department, there are just some things I prefer not to do collectively 😆
But I think strip clubs are sad, both the people patronizing them (sorry Sean, but I’m being honest here) and the women working there. I have friends who are ex-prostitutes and ex-strippers, so I’ve heard plenty about that life. Lusty Lady here in San Francisco has the only unionized strip staff in the country, I believe. SEIU Local 790. I used to be friends with the guy who helped organize them. Daisy Anarchy, who I think is their shop steward, or at least their main spokesperson, is a sharp woman, no dummie. Just not my personal preference. Sex is so repressed in this society, it’s inevitable that our market driven culture has a profound effect on how people express their sexuality. I don’t judge, I just know what I feel comfortable with and what I don’t, and when I’m willing to push boundaries and when I’m not. It’s an individual journey that we all have to be free to take. This government wants to cordon off that journey more than any other in our history, and that is dangerous, we have to, absolutely have to fight it in every way we can manage to. :fist:
Oh no–not perfect-I hope we are not going for perfect. I would have to give up my games.
There are alot of people who say they hate politcs and that is their excuse for not paying attention to the issues. So to them I say at least get your milk at the local market instead of saving 19 cents at Safeway.
I hope you don’t think I am jumping ugly on you–just thinking out loud.
But I think strip clubs are sad, both the people patronizing them (sorry Sean, but I’m being honest here) and the women working there.
yeah thats pretty much true i dont go too often just was having a good night out since i dont get to do that often and uh thats what everybody was doing so thats what i did i wasnt gonna go off by myself wandering since baltimore doesnt seem to be too safe a city and the only “clubs” near the hotel were strip clubs anyway uh yeah ok then
SisterTea, I didn’t think you were dissing me. Probably just my own guilt kicking it. MatchPoint, huh? That was some review! Takes time to get those li’l pills out of their little foil pockets, you know. The dildo musta been a jelly one – hey do you know the jelly ones are bacteria farms? Good Vibrations has a warning to use condoms on any jelly ones, always. The silicon ones are more hygienic apparently. Now there’s some news you can use…
There is a rundown of the exchange between Mary, Dowd and Gregory on http://www.theleftcoaster.com
hey i already knew that dont ask me why but i read it somewhere i think on a blog somewhere stupid jelly dildos
mmmm. jelly.
Hey, PJ, I just noticed that you put Marc’s blog post up on the Home page. It looks really great there. I always just come straight to the blog but I guess that is good for people just checking the main site.
We aim to please. I also put up a page with all of the Marc list e-mails (though I would think everybody here gets those).
:nixon:david spade is great even if his movies are bad he is friggin special anywho
What “Where’s Maron” thing? It doesn’t seem to be there!
Bye for now, off to enjoy the day offline. Catch you all later!
It’s right there under their banner, and above the “AAR Premium” thing.
:bow: Exellent work webmaster.
I left and came back to dildos? I missed something…
PJ you take such good care..
how about cliffnotes…
who is cliff and why does he take notes?
not a lot of people know Cliff. He takes notes so that he appears to be busy and no one will fuck with him. But I always do.
A human microchip implant is an integrated circuit device, a RFID tag, encased in silicate glass and implanted into a human’s body. Such implants are used for information storage, such as personal identification, medical history, medication allergies, and contact information. If the implant is GPS-enabled, it makes it possible for individuals to be physically located by latitude, longitude, speed, and direction of movement. Verichip is one of the devices used for this purpose.
Advantages
Hospitals can gain access to medical history regardless of location by scanning one’s implant chip. The speed at which this information can be attained may be vital to one’s survival.
The tracking function can aid authorities in locating missing persons, fugitives, etc… The tracking function can also be used to identify criminals at the scene of a crime and as well as locating those who have fled the scene of Disadvantages
disadvantages
Potential threat with respect to invasion of privacy
Potential threat to religious liberty
Potential compromise to religious salvation
:paranoid:where is everybody?
I left and came back to dildos? I missed something…
Comment by SisterTea — February 19, 2006 @ 5:33 pm
Don’t feel bad. I don’t get invited to the good parties either. 🙂
Foggyblue was asking yesterday about 24 and the ramifications of depicting torture. I have been a fan of this show from the beginning.
You have to realize that it’s FICTION. It’s not real. Kiefer Sutherland is on the record as being opposed to torture, but doesn’t have a problem with it being depicted in the show if it is deemed necessary as a plot device.
It seems as though the show has been doing more in the last couple of seasons to show the after-effects of torture. There have been times when Jack Bauer has tortured a detainee knowing that it will affect his relationship with someone close to him.
Granted, there are people who have difficulty separating fiction from real life. Most of these people are the same ones who cheered Bush when he stood on the aircraft carrier in his cute little fighter-pilot outfit.
I would think 24 would be a good starting point for a discussion on torture and its ramifications in real life.
Melina, I hope your squeak is improving. (Squeak for me, my darling.:hubba:)
I dunno, man. I saw him in Lost Boys, and he was pretty fricking nasty.
well, I am currently winding down my 24/Netflix thing (and Ex…dont feel guilty!! I am so much worse than you! God, I love Starbucks and I even went to Walmart a couple of weeks ago under duress to get a button down shirt for my son at the last minute!)
There is a TON of torture and in a way its so disgusting that it may show alot of people how horrible it is….I am so surprised at what they go through with. The Alias torture is always so unlikely and strange (like the water mask one,) that its sorta science fiction….But 24…its bad!
Strangely, I heard that JOhn McCain just did a cameo on the new season. I guess he really likes the show. I havent seen this season yet but I’m taping it for later;-)
I think that part of the reason that its so good is that its believable. Its not a cartoon…but then I dont really think that things unfold in 24 hours usually!
Shut the Fuck up, Lieberman!:omg:
Nicki- do you know who the Repub is that would run against Lieberman if he won the primary?
We have a promising candidate here in Ned Lamonte, but Im wondering if he would be strong enough to beat the Repubs in the big picture.
what do you mean? stuff like 24 happens at least once a year! well i am assuming since uh 24 is based on real situations and what not yeah so since 24 is based on real threats the real threats must also be fixed within 24 hours or something like that ok well im gonna post this and then write a short little thing-a-ma-bob about what i just saw on faux news about the ports being taken over by dubai uae whatever the thing is called
well, my point was that I dont think its all that realistic in the big picture, as none of this stuff is because you cant dramatize the years of downtime that is in these ops in reality….of course then Cheney decides to use his executive priveledge and out the agents and…well, its a bloodbath from there on…but Im sure Cheney feels real bad about it. Almost as bad as he felt when he shot Whit in the face and chest!….
Hey I wonder if Cheney feels as bad about Val Wilson’s ruined career and the deaths and/or ruined careers of her contacts around the world, as he feels for Whit and the big “accident”…
Hey, I wonder if we can send Cheney to one of those torture camps to try it out and see how he likes it!
ok so :evil:faux news:evil: had a little story about the dubai ports acquisition and never once did they mention that it was the dems leading the way in the opposition to the deal but they mentioned republicans like :evil:lindsay grahm:evil: and said that :evil:lindsay grahm:evil: along with many of his colleagues were opposed blah blah blah friggin bastards whatever ok what more could i possibly expect from them?
Gallup, NM (USA)
Gallup, NM (USA): The entry of the Gallup Independent (a local newspaper) has been stoned the day they published some Mohammed cartoons. Threats were written on the stone. The link between the stoning and the cartoons has still to be checked.
Stoning? Not to mention how horribly the little entry is written but then again what more can you expect from something on michelle malkins webpage?
Whew! That was a bunch of comments to go through.
Methaz! I like your groundedness. I think being Maron fans we tend to be like him a bit and get too conspiratorial and feel like we’re doomed. The only thing that keeps me from succumbing to that is the fact that there’s no way I’m taking it lying down, even if it’s a losing battle. One time,as I was sleeping in my bed I had a wierd experience where I must have been half dreaming and half awake. I could have sworn I saw someone in my room stealthily leaning over to pet my dog(as if to keep her quiet)and looking at me at the same time. First thing I thought was, “why the HELL are the dogs not barking!” but then I thought that I did not want to be attacked lying down so I grabbed the lamp and yanked it out of the wall, jumped up on top of my bed and started screaming like a banshee and jumped off ready to attack. I hit the light and there was no one there but a couple of freaked out dogs. I must have dreamed it. But that is how I will react to what is going on. If there’s nothing there then fine, I made a fool of myself, nothing new there, no big deal. But I will NOT take this administration lying down.
so i was just watching court tv and they had a guy get beat by cops and charged with assaulting a police officer and he never even touched the police officer the officer was yanking the guy around by the handcuffs and then the officer knocked him on the ground and started whacking hm with his billy club and the guy was just sitting there holding his hands in the air while the police officer beat him then another one showed up and joined in what the fuck is wrong with people?
I have only seen, maybe 1 or 2 episodes of 24 so I don’t know all the details. I stopped watching violence after Reservoir Dogs. I decided I just didn’t want that stuff in my brain anymore, especially so graphically. I can imagine quite well w/o pictures, thankyou. I believe it does desensitize people. And most violence depicted in movies and on tv is glamorized with sound effects and good camera angles. When you hit someone, it doesn’t make a smacking noise, it’s more like a thud, very unglamorous. So, if 24 can make the violence how it is in real life, unglamorous, then I might think it’s a good thing.
Yeah Krista!! I refuse to be quiet and I have had the bumper stickers and buttons on the whole time. My feeling was (and my stickers say) that peace is patriotic and that I care just as much as anyone…”support our troops, Impeach BUSH!”
My grandfather is so freaked because his parents came fromt he Russian Pogroms and he lived through the McCarthy era…he thinks that there is no end to what people will do for their side/money/beliefs and he always asks me to take the stickers off my car. But the times that Ive actually thought about it, and if someone might not knock on the door one day and sieze my conputer and take me away…well, I just feel like if that were to happen that I’d have to go with them and fight for my right to have ideas and to speak out.
Of course, there is no one in the world who can take care of my kid, with the way his father is and the way my family is, and his particular personality and needs, so Im a little torn about maybe making a statement and endangering his security in the process….but, I just cant get my mind around the idea of not speaking out about this.
And I’m not gonna worry that the supermarket knows what I buy or that someone is watching me type this right now. If I am who they are watching then we’ve got bigger trouble than we already thought we had!
y’know, you would think that they would use some of this manpower to learn the languages that they need to actually need to pick up the real threats. How come they waste so much on systems that are giving them nothing and they dont have enough translators?
Anyway, if they are watching me, they are very bored….or maybe amused.
These days I cant go out anywhere without someone starting a conversation about my LIAR button. In the supermarket the checkout person will yell down the line to all the others to look. It makes alot of people laugh and say “oh yes”
Its such a conversation starter. Even people who voted for Bush are talking about it. I think that it just states what everyone on both sides is pretty worried about if they’re paying attention at all, so its not a direct attack on the person…or something…anyway, it goes over well…and if there are cameras and microphones watching me they are gonna have to take most of the city away. I dont think the detention centers are big enough for all of us!
I made a t shirt that simply says IMPEACH across the breasts(it’s tight too) and I feel like I need to be in a fightin’ mood to wear it. And I think, well, shit it’s just a tshirt with my little ole opinion on it, why should I be afraid to wear it? Lot’s of people wear tshirts and I don’t even know what they say. Yet I really feel like this will cause some trouble and I censor it unless I’m going to a protest. Then, I get mad because something outside of me has caused me to second guess myself.
Hey Melina, I don’t think the Repubs have a candidate in line to run, just yet. According to the last Rasmussen poll, a generic republican gets 14% (Leberman 45% – under 50 for an incumbent aint so good – and Lamont – so far very unknown). Amongst dems, it’s 47-36 Lieberman. They have one with Weicker, too, but he says he’s not running.
Lieberman, in true weasel traitor backstabbing style says he’ll run as in independent if he loses the primary.
As it happens, I e-mailed Mark Riley a couple weeks ago, to see what he thought about Lamont’s chances (since Mark is from CT originally. Here’s his reply:
One more thing about Lamont – he’s got some bucks of his own to spend, thoug there are some funky rules about what he can spend of his own money (if he spends more than $514,000, then Lieberman’s donors can triple what they can give him – and he has Republican lobbyists on his side.
Still, his intial poll numbers are good for an unknown, and if MoveOn and the netroot gets behind him, I think he’s got a real shot. Tough row to hoe, but not impossible by any means. I’d love to see Lieberman be made an example of. Got that Hillary?
This is from Novakula’s column, which I hate to sully myself with, but:
heres a little joke i founded on the myspace
A guy out on the golf course takes a high speed ball right in the
crotch. Writhing in agony, he falls to the ground.
As soon as he could manage, he took himself to the doctor. He said “How
bad is it doc?…..I’m going on my honeymoon next week and my fiance is
still a virgin – in every way.”
The doctor told him, “I’ll have to put your willie in a splint to let it heal and keep it straight. It should be okay next week.”
He took four tongue depressors and formed a neat little 4 sided splint,
and taped it all together; …an impressive work of art.
The guy mentions none of this to his girl, marries her, and goes on
their honeymoon.
That night in the motel room, she rips open her blouse to reveal her
>beautiful breasts.
>She said, “You’re the first; no one has EVER touched these.”
>He immediately drops his pants and replies,……”Look at this,
>…still in the CRATE!”
ok so who wouldnt want to go see night watch if critics are saying things like this?
Wieker will only run if there is no one else. Lamont seems good according to what he says but he is largely unknown. Of course he is for education and peace…but so was Bush when he was running. It seems that even though many people are angry at Lieberman, he may have the money and name recognition to pull this off. I hope he doesnt end up running as a Democrat, no matter what happens. Lamont is rich and can raise alot but I havent really studied the election reform here so I dont know how that is gonna effect this thing. The Repubs want Lieberman in office so he is going to have alot of power behind him. It is also unclear if the Democratic party and groups such as MOveOn will support the incumbents or give support based on the candidates record. Its easy to be against Shays because he calls himself a Republican…but there is really not much difference between the two of them…and theyer really, really good friends;-) eeekkkk!
The more the Dems lay down on the job in the face of this insane administration trying to change the whole structure of the country, the more I think that there is an ongoing internal shift in what being a Dem is…everything is pitching right.
It seems that what may happen over many years is that the Republicans will become Democrats and the Democrats will become Independents or whatever comes next in the line of Liberalism, as every party is pulled right by the creation of this bizarre neocon culture. And hopefully the regular Republicans realize that they are really conservative Dems and those neocon Republican party becomes the new fringe …and the country is left with Independents and Democrats as the majority and minority however its balanced (if it only has to be 2 main parties, as seems to be the case in what Americans in general are comfortable with.)
I hate Lieberman….and I have pulled the lever for him under duress before….but I have hated him for a long time…He is really a Republican…and maybe in some ways a necon. In any case, he is busy brown nosing Bush and his neocons to ensure his place in the scheme of things …and I would like him to realize somehow that he has been brown nosing the wrong party.
He just doesnt realize that he is Bush’s little Dem Jew boy, used to give credibility…USED for propaganda…
What a whore!
Ive got to go and lay down…just gonna post a picture of my new canary on ripcoco and then try to rest a bit…very sick! Still cant talk…
My electrician just called and said that everyone has this and that it took him days to get over it…damn!
My son doesnt have it yet but his best friend is over and sleeping over for the second night in a row and he seems to have it…and another friend was over today and he had the beginning if it….oh well…I guess I could use some downtime. Its very hard to yell at rowdy boys with no voice…I was sort of squeaking real loud at them…ugh!
you voted for loserman!!!!! whoa ok well who had you under duress? :paranoid:i thought that people voted in private?:paranoid: weird
:nod:squeaking must suck huh ok well later lady go lay down and get some rest
:omg:i was flipping the channels and faux news came on and they are friggin talking about the blonde girl in aruba what the fuck why is that news? so many friggin people go missing every day but a blonde girl in aruba disappears and it is news for over a friggin year ugh
:nixon::jesus::sheep:
Hey, I just want to turn you all on to GoVeganRadio that’s on every Sunday 6-7PM PST (on right now) at http://www.quakeradio.com.
Quake radio is the lame but nonetheless only local AAR in the Bay Area. Yay for GoVeganRadio!!! :bow:
Bottled water is bad for the environment!:omg:
What is that all about?
friggin vegans and their loathing of tasty jello :rofl2:
Laura Flanders is on in Portland. 7-10pm
Barry Bonds to retire after this season. Why doesn’t that cheating steroid abuser quit right now?
http://www.goveganradio.com/ – archived, podcasting! Ground zero radio for vegan peaceniks! Get yer Bush-bashing vegan style! (absolutely shameless plug – they need all the free promo they can get). If you have any vegan activist friends, please let them know about Bob Linden’s GoVeganRadio show, it’s very informative and he’s very savvy politically. Needs $ too, he has no backing from AAR, has to pay out of pocket for the airtime. Vegans around the world donate to help defray the cost and keep him on the air; he’s been doing this for five years now, based in Los Angeles. :banana::banana:
Gotta go!:rofl2:
Gambling in Nevada! I’m shocked!:omg:
friggin vegans and their loathing of tasty jello
Yeh yeh yeh…
Go Vegan and No Body Gets Hurt!!
woo hoo!! Sunday night is vegan party time!!! :banana::sheep::banana:
[pj, any chance you could get more dancing vegetable emoticons?]
Has Linden substituted for Malloy in the past?
Steve Earle is playing some wild music. Hank Williams “LOve Sick Blues” in New Orleans Jazz style.
Lennye Kaye is the guest.
Minstrel version of Lovesick blues. Hank did not right “LoveSick Blues”!:omg: That explains it.
I forgive you Sean; I know how all that cow pus and burnt flesh in the blood vessels can affect one, so I forgive you 😮 Well, I”m off to the kitchen to puree the butternut squash and throw in some coconut milk and curry paste. Another evening in vegan kitchen heaven…maybe a side of the quickie barley/shiitake mushroom stew I cooked in the pressure cooker yesterday. And for dessert, ooooh, so hard to decide. Should I have the coconut sherbert with the homemade banana walnut bread with a drizzle of Cointreu? Or, oh, I’m getting tired of that. Maybe a thimble full of sherry with the homemade cherry scone. Decisions decisions. :grin::grin: :cake: Night all, just had to get the shameless plug in for http://WWW.GOVEGANRADIO.COM :sheep::sheep::sheep::fist::banana::banana::banana::yinyang:
:banana::rofl2:vegans are like evil cultist people like those evil elf guys friggin terrorist vegan wackos but uh its ok i forgive you ex-ny’er im sure all the lentil has gone to your head it’s ok
mmmm, beer. Beer is good :40:
Vegans drink beer, right? I think they do.:alc:
Anyway, I’ll be back in a jiffy.
Go Vegan and No Body Gets Hurt!!
so uh you are one of those militant vegans huh? thats cool just uh dont come get me when you have the vegetable revolution i can change i can give up the meat well i have tried but its hard too many fast food places at truckstops and friggin no kind of vegan food except salad in the truckstop restaraunts so uh dont come after me when you start hurting people just go after the truckstop people and make them have vegan menu’s since uh then it would be easy and convenient to stop eating meat yeah do that whatr the hell are they playing on here right now i didnt notice it till just now is this uh yeah whoa ok yeah this is different word ok well uh yeah im gonna stop rambling now and see what else has been posted on here since i started rambling on and on and on
since we are doing beer here here is my favorite beer:40:
I’m back, with pureed squash/coconut curry to slurp down. Easy to feel decadent eating that stuff. God, I’m stuffed now, after salad with hulled hemp seeds, walnuts, angelhair sliced beet and carrot and flax seed oil, and now this soup. I couldn’t get food this good at any restaurant, if I say so myself. Well, not without blowing a lot of $.
NickiRose, I doubt Linden ever subbed for Malloy, he’s never been on AAR before now. And he’s been so busy trying to keep his own show afloat, I don’t think he had time. He talks about Ed Schultz and Malloy being hunters (he did a great riff on Cheney and Whittington tonight). He’s not hostile against Schultz or Malloy, at least not on the air. I suspect that like me he likes Malloy better than Schultz, but like me wishes they’d both stop hunting. He suggested Schultz don running shoes to catch the deer, to make it an equal fight.
Anyway, I like Steve Earl, I love the music. Wish I’d caught the part about Hank Williams…
Wowa, I have to try that stuff, Sean. Iron City beer [Belch} Damn skippy! Yeah, hmm… :barf:
“Think of words ending in -GRY. Angry and hungry are two of them. There are only three words in the English language. What is the third word? The word is something that everyone uses every day. If you have listened carefully, I have already told you what it is.”
The word gry, is that the answer? I think so. Yup, :40:
i kinda want to go hunting i was watching tv today and they had the guy that got into the fight with the deer and his wife videotaped it i want to get a knife and kill a deer in a close quarters combat situation i have wanted to hunt a deer with a knife since i was a little kid and my dad told me about when he tried to sneak up on a deer with a knife (deer ran away) anywho i probably wont but if i do it will be because i have moved to the boonies in pennsylvania and i am living like a hermit in my cemetery
Everyone be quiet, I’m tryin’ to watch Andy Rooney
There are only three words in the English language. What is the third word?
oh uh sorry and uh sorry:fustrate:
Seanie, you so funny, dude. Vegan options everywhere is what we want, yes! I don’t know how I’d survive at those truck stops, guy, and I’ve been to ’em. Got left at a truckstop in Bakersfield on a Green Tortoise trip to New Orleans bout 20 yrs ago. Nice trucker and his child caught me up with ’em. We stopped at many truckstops and shopping malls between Bakersfield and New Orleans. Pardon me and no disrespect to good people there, but fucking wasteland on the highways there!! Nothing to eat but whitebread toast, anemic iceberg lettuce, anemic tomatos. All gmo, of course, though not back then. And potoatos. Not even hummus to moisten the toast or potatos. Barfarama. And you shoulda seen the stares we got when our mulit-culti mixed gender-preferenced crew debarked to stretch our legs and do yoga in the parking lots. Our Japanese passenger wore a white cloth around his forehead, played Japanese flute and did some tai chi. That was pretty hard stuff for those Texan truckers to have to bear. I was terrified, stuck like glue to the others until we reached New Orleans, where we were like kids in the playground.
Oh, beer – yes! I can’t drink much of it because I get sauced way too easy, but I love Stella Artois, Hefenweizer, the pale ales, domestic and foreign. But never, never Bud Light, that stuff’s gross. Singha’s good. Some of the northern California ‘microbrews’ are good too, like Boonville, Red Dog. Found out at Rainbow Grocery that even beer and liquor can be non-vegan. You won’t believe why, I couldn’t. But true: they filter the liquid through isinglass, which is some tendon or something ripped from the bodies of, um, squids, I think. I’m not a total vegan nazi like some of my friends, so I don’t turn my nose up at a good pale ale just because it’s not vegan. I also don’t always ask about anchovy paste in the curry at the Thai and Vietnamese restaurants (it’s pretty ubiquitous in Thai and some Vietnamese cooking, apparently).
Sean, the shipping came to just under $10 for the cd’s, they’ll go out with the 4pm UPS pickup tomorrow, they told me. I went and joined the movie rental club there, and I’m going to close out the Netflix soon as I finish watching the films that I know they won’t carry at the neighborhood place. (They told me they would order any movie for me to buy, but for renting, only ones they feel that others will want to rent. They did have WalMart, and the did have The United States of Leland).
Carry on, sheeple. Sorry for that outburst. Yeah, Sean, check it
sweet did they say when to expect delivery?
and uh how long ago was this trip?
“the”? Is that the 3rd word?
How dare you try to watch Andy Rooney while we’re talking?? Is he saying anything coherent tonight? Another Sunday night without West Wing, damn! But I’ll be leaving in 53 minutes to watch the next installment of Bleek House. X-File’s Gillian Anderson plays the lead. Very cool, seeing her acti with a British accent, in big gowns and everythan’
Ok, Chuck D. doesn’t give much analysis, imo; one black friend of mine concurs. He’s more into being a radio personality than in giving hard info and analysis. I’m turning off the stream. Sorry, Chuck, your music is better than your radio banter…
Seriously! That kinda gives me the creeps. I’m still swallowin’ the juice though. I’m gettin’ tired. What’s the third word, Sean? C’mon, man, let’s hear it:ear:
:jerk: Wow, I LOVE that icon!
This is Cornfed Hippie Pie-wagon AKA Cornfed in Tampa. Glad to see this blog doing so well!!! I still can’t find the “Where’s Marc?” thing on AAR. I’m afraid that they’re going to hose us on this Maron thing. I bought the Premium service and I fully expect them to deliver!
i must say though that when chuck is being interviewed he is friggin rediculously awesome. uh language is the third word in [the english language] so uh yeah ok well ummm i dont like giana anyway
Sorry, forgot to mention, eda: Monday Feb. 27.
The trip was about 20 years ago, I think. I never saw so many different drugs in one place at one time. A guy was selling them out of his suitcase and had his two year old daughter with him!
wow crazy man carazy i mean er woman ok then
so uh seal do you have babies that i can club? i :love: clubbing baby seals its an old hobby of mine hmmm i wonder if travis clubs baby seals he is definitely in the right state! ok well i will stop being mean and put the link to aar here so you can try to find maron the wheres maron thing-a-ma-bob is dead center in the middle of the page under the main aar banner that has where the new stations are so uh yeah
Sean, you’re too much, but thanks for being, er, polite. 🙄
I did say it doesn’t stop me from indulging. Wish I could hold more beer, but it does round out a good Thai meal sometimes…
I’ll see about scanning the shipping bill and emailing it to you just so you know it’s bona fide and all.
Ok have fun, I”m doing my taxes online right now, and gotta get ready for Bleek House. Clubbing seals. Yeh, that’s rich. You’re rackin’ up bad animal karma with that, buddy – just for that I’m assigning you to watch this:
http://www.3dweb.no/galleri/stuestolbm/bilder/anim1.swf
G’night and party on, I’m offa here for now :alc:
:paranoid:yeah because you can never just trust nice people that send you cd’s in the mail in violation of the copywrite laws of our great nation
Well, I have to bail and enter into a globe of my own hallucinatory thoughts and what not. Later, sheeple.
Listen to Homer
:banana:is that a clubbed seals video?
:paranoid:uh oh cows with guns i must be:alc:
:doh:ok well im uh climbing into the back of my truck and hiding from my responsibilities like a good little miscreant
Sean, the third word is “language.”
He’s baaaaack.
Normally, I’d be asleep right now, but I have a song by the Tubes running through my head, and it won’t stop.
great now the friggin republicans are going to talk even more about how bin laden is taking notes from the far left and all that jazz what the fuck ok well im going away for the night since they are just about done loading my trailer peace out brothas and sistas:jesus::nixon::peace:
Nightie-night, Seanie-sean
:nixon:i love deep frying koala fetuses
:nixon:i use human babies as clubs to club the baby seals because it just feels right
:nixon:”if dick cheney does it then it is legal”
:paranoid:where is everybody? everybody must be sleeping ok well i am hitting the road now so i will be around again some other time
:rofl2:lol randi is talking about the f network ok i am gonna take a nap until i am told i can hit the road so uh yeah later sleepyheads:yawn:
:growl: I just lost an intense poem about global warming :growl:
I will try again — besides putting it on Word (from now on), WHERE DID MY POEM GO?
When I was 13, I went against my parents because they did not believe Global Warming was going to be my future. Guess what, I was right and ALL the TWITS that refused to ACT (especially rethugs and Reagan-ites) WERE WRONG. So they DO NOT Have a right to be adhered to EVER AGAIN. I/WE SPEAK NOW, you listen and do what WE SAY. MY/OUR EARTH ALWAYS FIRST ….I have to go back to writing…and fellow Artists ONLY sell to those that answer the question — “Did you vote for bush this last election?” And answering, “NOOOO:!:”
:growl::growl::growl::growl::growl::growl::growl::growl:
Any errors — oh well………
:growl: bush & all his adm :spank:
IMPEACHMENT!!!(thx to KevinM)
VIGILANCE
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