OK, anybody out there with a Sigg Metro Mug? If so, tell me how it’s supposed to work. There’s a two-piece cap that unscrews, and presumably you’d take the top part of the cap off, and be able to sip your beverage of choice. Well, there’s a little rubber plug in there, so I pulled that out, then filled it up with coffee, and proceeded to shoot a very small, high velocity – and extermemely hot – stream of coffee directly to the roof of my mouth (where there is now a rather painful blister). Somehow, I don’t think it’s supposed to work this way. Now, I’ve never claimed to be the sharpest tool in the shed, but this is the first time a coffee mug has ever stumped me, so if you have any ideas, let me know.
Oh, and happy Friday.
Ahhhhhh. I can’t help you but I did want to tell you that I love that picture you use of the Sunrise/Sunset.
Good Luck with what you seek. I am wurkin’ and lurkin’. :wink:(:yawn:)
See, this is why I don’t drink coffee. It’s too annoying.
:40: is a lot easier. Of course, there’s the complication that you can’t drink it before or at work, which is why we have water.
So is anyone planning to see The Da Vinci Code? Early word on the street is that the greatest issue with it is not so much that it’s offensive (hey, I don’t need a movie to tell me that the Catholic Church is evil and conspiratorial), but more that it’s booooooring.
Although any movie that pisses so many people off might be seeing just for that reason. Or maybe I can flip off the protesters on the way in to see Akeelah And The Bee.
Haapy Friday, :sheep:le!
:joe:
PJ, dawling, why not just use an old fashioned mug for the java? who needs the coffee hot for hours with this? Coffee is best drunk immediately.
(hope your blister heals quickly.)
:40: at night.
:joe: to get up.
Water during the day.
At home, I use my Car Talk mug, but I got the Sigg expecting to have to travel on the metro every morning. Plus, I thought it looked cool (got the blue one, btw).
we’re going to go see da vinci…i assume the christian nationalists will be out in force as they were with Brokeback Mtn. It feels good to cross their picket lines – worth the price of admission. 😎
Hey, FK, why don’t you dress like a nun, and have Mr. dress like a priest. And then start making out in line.
Nothing cooler, in my book, than a :love: Car Talk :love: mug.
Well, gotta go take Junior to work. Better him than me.
a pregnant nun to boot!
pjsauter and Farmerkat,
why don’t you dress like a nun, and have Mr. dress like a priest. And then start making out in line.
a pregnant nun to boot!
Comment by Farmerkat
:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:
Hummm… a pregnant nun maybe you should arrive on a donkey :bow::bow::banana:
:omg:
After the revelation that the peace demonstrators were crazy since they keep doing the same thing over and over again but expect a different result..( Rhodes and Hartman said that was a sign of insanity not me) The people on Rachel’s blog seen to have the same problem with the AAR stream.. The stream off the AAR web site never works so someone has to post a link to one that does.. That happens almost every day and the one that works is always the same one.. you would think :doh::doh::omg:
FK re:#8, what about a MS mug?? no :love: ?
I had ordered and paid for two and got four.
Morning / Evening all :yinyang:
The company issued us all spill proof mugs so we would quit getting coffee all over the tile floors. Now if they would just quit hiding the coffee.
Hey, for those interested, Skype is allowing free PC to phone calls until the end of the year. Details here.
Farmerkat, are you expecting?? :sammy:
Did you all see this Cafferty File clip?
Dear Friend,
I ran into the Al Franken at a New York reception the other day.
Al is the seriously funny author and comedian who has a radio talk show on Air America and possesses political aspirations.
The conversation went something like this:
Myself: “Hi Al, when are you going to drop what you’re doing and head for your native state of Minnesota to run for the U.S. Senate.”
Al: “It’s not until ’08.”
Myself: “But Al, you need a lot of time. You can connect with Bill Hillsman who is about the best at catchy messages that catch the news cycle. You can take him (meaning Senator Norm Coleman who ran against the late Paul Wellstone). You know, humor after a while can be a distraction.”
Al: “I don’t think humor is a distraction.”
Myself: “It’s time for you to get serious about corporate power, Al.”
:omg:
Al: “I don’t think humor is a distraction.”
I like Al because he’s smart and good at researching things/presenting things, but I don’t think he’s funny. So in his case humor IS a distraction. I don’t think that’s always true, though. Sometimes humor can be an effective political weapon.
Ethnic Cleansing:
At the most general level, ethnic cleansing can be understood as the expulsion of an “undesirable” population from a given territory as a result of religious or ethnic discrimination, political, strategic or ideological considerations, or a combination of these.
Genocide is defined by the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (CPPCG) Article 2 as “any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, as such: Killing members of the group; Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; and forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.”
Do you discern a difference between the two, ANV?
I was never interested in The Da Vinci Code, so I never read anything about it. Well, I just did a little googling and found out that in the plot, Jesus fathers a child with Mary. I now understand the reference to a pregnant priest and nun in the comments above. Apologies for my nonsensical comment above.
:yawn: G’Night, G’Day One and All
‘Morning :joe:
Let’s see, wordnet at Princeton defines ethnic cleansing as “the mass expulsion and killing of one ethic or religious group in an area by another ethnic or religious group in that area,” and genocide as “systematic killing of a racial or cultural group.”
In either case, I think it’s quite a stretch to compare the anti-mexican “illegal immigration” issue – in spite of the racsist motivation and ignorance from which it springs – to ethnic cleansing. It’s not that I doubt the “minute” men (no doubt the media are mispronouncing “minute”) – among others – would love to see all those brown people expelled from our borders, but there’s a difference (IMHO) between wanting to remove everyone of a certain ethnic or religious group regardless of their citizenship and/or immigrations “status,” and wanting to prevent that group from entering the country illegally and/or deporting them once they’re here.
I don’t think one has to agree with the latter to see a distinction from the former.
No doubt, there are are plenty of people who find it shameful that Clinton abandoned Rwanda, who would have branded Clinton a war criminal had the US (or NATO) made a move to intervene in that situation, just as plenty who find the intervention in Kosovo to be a criminal act would have castigated Clinton had NATO not intervened there.
hey, kristapea! I’m on my way out the door. Am going to The Living Room tonight. See you later :yinyang:
Hey, look PJ, 36 hours in Syracuse
I have a couple of Shifty’s World Tour t-shirts. I think I may have some close to knocking one out in one night (the Fosters is a killer).
Is The Living Room like the living room that Peter Fonda was talking about in The Trip with Dennis Hopper, emphasis on living as in alive? :rofl2: I loved that line!
:smack: Bien sur, KK! :love: MS mug :love:
but i only have ONE, not four :rant1:
the living room looks interesting.
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isi, so glad you realized that I am NOT preggo!!! :billcat:
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it looks like genocide would create ethnic cleansing.
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had to rush neighbor friend to ER this a.m. (role reversal!); fractured her foot with a 6X6 post; Ouch.
so i was at this place casino-rama in ontario last 2 days for a michael bolton show (i drove the gear no i am not a fan) stupid ass hotel had no hi speed internet they told me if i had a dial-up provider i could access the net through them the bastards! oh well ok then uh im on my mommy’s computer havent really been on mine so anyway ok then yep yep
glad you’re alive, seanie buddy – missed you!
gotta run off again, Ciao!
ok so i just got an e-mail from xm apparently the music industry is having a hissy fit about tivo like devices that xm wants to release heres the e-mail oh yeah my point in posting this is that its cocksucking assclowns like danny goldberg that refuse to move things forward that are opposed to advancements in technology like tivo etc. anyway ok here’s the e-mail
Statement to XM Subscribers – The XM Nation
Everything we’ve done at XM since our first minute on the air is about giving you more choices. We provide more channels and music programming than any other network. We play all the music you want to hear including the artists you want to hear but can’t find on traditional FM radio. And we offer the best radios with the features you want for your cars, homes, and all places in between.
We’ve developed new radios — the Inno, Helix and NeXus — that take innovation to the next level in a totally legal way. Like TiVo, these devices give you the ability to enjoy the sports, talk and music programming whenever you want. And because they are portable, you can enjoy XM wherever you want.
The music industry wants to stop your ability to choose when and where you can listen. Their lawyers have filed a meritless lawsuit to try and stop you from enjoying these radios.
They don’t get it. These devices are clearly legal. Consumers have enjoyed the right to tape off the air for their personal use for decades, from reel-to-reel and the cassette to the VCR and TiVo.
Our new radios complement download services, they don’t replace them. If you want a copy of a song to transfer to other players or burn onto CDs, we make it easy for you to buy them through XM + Napster.
Satellite radio subscribers like you are law-abiding music consumers; a portion of your subscriber fee pays royalties directly to artists. Instead of going after pirates who don’t pay a cent, the record labels are attacking the radios used for the enjoyment of music by consumers like you. It’s misguided and wrong.
We will vigorously defend these radios and your right to enjoy them in court and before Congress, and we expect to win.
Thank you for your support.
Yeah, this is the PERFORM act (I mentioned it a while back):
More info at the EFF.
hey yeah you rock pj! you didnt eat the cats yet did you?
Nah, they love me too much. I went grocery shopping instead.
Oh, here’s a petition. Also, especially for you folks out there in CA, you should contact Diane Feinstein and tell her to piss off (once again, she’s on the wrong side).
By the way, this doesn’t just fuck with satellite radio, but potentially streaming, podcasting, and music services.
ok im going to sign right now!
Boy oh Boy PJ do your cats ever have you fooled..
The only use cats have for humans is when they want attention or to be fed.
:nod:my little sisters cat tried stealing the cat treats right out of my hand while i was getting some out of the container for it so i had to throw the cat across the room!
Nah, these cats (well, 3 out of 4) think they’re dogs.
I always have thought if I had a cat like Garfield that if and when he stole my lasagna he would get fed to the garbage disposal tail first.
President Bush is top recipient of political funds from phone companies that turned over calling records of millions of Americans. AT&T, Verizon and BellSouth gave Bush $511,955
http://tinyurl.com/gjnvd
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Surprise surprise ..
You are kidding, RIGHT?! :no:
One of our cats and I had a little struggle for a while, but after a few kitty flying lessons, she behaves herself. The three that the dog brought up are the best, though.
Cats making a mess by marking their territory before they get fixed was always a problem. My aunt used to say she held the cats nose in it then threw the cat out the window until the cat started doing that by himself.
Wow, I saw this story yesterday, but this is the first I’ve actually seen the ad. Talk about heartless.
kitty flying lesons! yay! ha yep i threw the kitty! damn stupid cat thought it should eat the food before it even came out of the bottle!
Talk about heartless
Comment by pjsauter — May 19, 2006 @ 2:04 pm
Rovian isn’t it?
:bow:ok this isnt just hot chicks for the sake of hot chicks but uh yeah go here and check out the hot chicks! the one doing the bettie page impersonation is my friend jessicas friend pretty cool girl shes russian first time i met her she had an empty bottle of vodka in her hand go figure! anyway yep enjoy!
:tongue:ok well maybe it is but uh they are hot! and one is a friend of a friend so there!
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Hey, I’m accepting donations too, but, uh, you have to ask Kahn for my address:nod:
“Expulsion of an undesireable population from …a given territory…”. What do you want to call it? Mexicans are going to get undercut politically, economically–and socially, if what the so-called liberals get what they want. It will be nearly impossible for them to find prevailing wage work, forcing them to the underground economy. Raids on workplaces, roundups, etc. will likely become common place. How many will stay?
Building a Sanctuary Movement
http://www.counterpunch.org/johnson05192006.html
Palestinian historian and researcher Dr. Ghada Karmi remarked, “Israel is 58 years old today. Israelis have already celebrated with barbecues and parties. And so they should, for they’ve pulled off an amazing stunt: the creation of a state for one people on the land of another – and at their massive expense – without incurring effective sanction.” Indeed, as the illegal apartheid wall snakes through the West Bank, as the settlement colonies expand and cascade down the valleys, as Gaza continues to absorb the psychic weight of 1.4 million Palestinians, hungry and dying and becoming angrier each day, it is as if Israel’s smirk grows wider and more toothy–for 58 years and counting, they have gotten away with it and assembled a fun-house mirror alternate reality to show to the world. Ignore the torture in the prisons. Disregard the human rights abuses. Pay no attention to the illegal settlement expansion. Don’t ask about the secret nuclear weapons program. Nevermind the apartheid social policies. Overlook the land theft. Forget about the home demolitions. After all, this is just for security reasons. And you–the Jewish American, the Jewish Russian, the Jewish Canadian, here’s your state. It’s malleable, it’s soft, it’s yours. It’s all for you. Look what we’ve built in your honor.
No Place for Non-Jews in Fortress Israel
Marriage Ban Closes the Gates to Palestinians
By JONATHAN COOK
In approving an effective ban on marriages between Israelis and Palestinians this week, Israel’s Supreme Court has shut tighter the gates of the Jewish fortress the state of Israel is rapidly becoming. The judges’ decision, in the words of the country’s normally restrained Haaretz daily, was “shameful”.
By a wafer-thin majority, the highest court in the land ruled that an amendment passed in 2003 to the Nationality Law barring Palestinians from living with an Israeli spouse inside Israel — what in legal parlance is termed “family unification” — did not violate rights enshrined in the country’s Basic Laws.
And even if it did, the court added, the harm caused to the separated families was outweighed by the benefits of improved “security”. Israel, concluded the judges, was justified in closing the doors to residency for all Palestinians in order to block the entry of those few who might use marriage as a way to launch terror attacks.
Applications for family unification in Israel invariably come from Palestinians in the occupied territories who marry other Palestinians, often friends or relatives, with Israeli citizenship. One in five of Israel’s population is Palestinian by descent, a group, commonly referred to as Israeli Arabs, who managed to remain inside the Jewish state during the war of 1948 that established Israel…
http://www.counterpunch.org
ZNet | Vision & Strategy
Power and Revolution:
The Anarchist Century
by Andrej Grubacic; May 11, 2006
{This paper is a revised version of the essay co-writen with David Graeber: Anarchism or the Revolutionary Movement for the 21st Century. It is revised and will be revised further for the presentation for the June 1 – 7 2006 Z Sessions on Vision and Strategy, held in Woods Hole, Massachusetts. }
It is becoming increasingly clear that the age of revolutions is not over. It’s becoming equally clear that the global revolutionary movement in the twenty first century, will be one that traces its origins less to the tradition of Marxism, or even of socialism narrowly defined, but of anarchism.
Everywhere from Serbia to Argentina, from Seattle to Bombay, anarchist ideas and principles are generating new radical dreams and visions. Often their exponents do not call themselves “anarchists”. There are a host of other names: autonomism, anti-authoritarianism, horizontality, Zapatismo, direct democracy… Still, everywhere one finds the same core principles: decentralization, voluntary association, mutual aid, the network model, and above all, the rejection of any idea that the end justifies the means, let alone that the business of a revolutionary is to seize state power and then begin imposing one’s vision at the point of a gun. Above all, anarchism, as an ethics of practice-the idea of building a new society “within the shell of the old”-has become the basic inspiration of the “movement of movements”, which has from the start been less about seizing state power than about exposing, de-legitimizing and dismantling mechanisms of rule while winning ever-larger spaces of autonomy and participatory management within it.
There are some obvious reasons for the appeal of anarchist ideas at the beginning of the 21st century: most obviously, the failures and catastrophes resulting from so many efforts to overcome capitalism by seizing control of the apparatus of government in the 20th. Increasing numbers of revolutionaries have begun to recognize that “the revolution” is not going to come as some great apocalyptic moment, the storming of some global equivalent of the Winter Palace, but a very long process that has been going on for most of human history (even if it has like most things come to accelerate of late) full of strategies of flight and evasion as much as dramatic confrontations, and which will never-indeed, most anarchists feel, should never-come to a definitive conclusion.
Are you an Anarchist, Nicki?
Fine then.:yawn:
“After the triumph of neoliberism worldwide, many believe that market laws are nothing more nor less than natural laws, and that their luggage of injustice and unequally is an inevitable ill. However, the failure of historical alternatives to capitalism does not rule out the possibility that the principles of equity, solidarity, self management, and diversity may replace free trade, whose failures are increasingly evident. Without limiting personal freedom, indeed encouraging it. And without compromising on research, innovation, development. These are the aims of participatory economics, a system of planning “from below”, giving to self-managed workers and consumers councils the responsibility of elaborating production and consumption choices taking into account social costs and benefits. Michael Albert, who is one of the main proponents of “parecon” (from the English for participatory economics) is not asking the reader for an act of faith. Participatory economics is not his own invention, nor is a closed project, but an exercise in collective intelligence elaborated by people from different countries, to which everybody is invited to contribute. And this book is the sum of what has been elaborated and proposed so far. Through an accurate exposition and the rebuttal of the most serious criticism, through cases studies and a detailed description of the strategies to translate the model into reality, it shows that bringing democracy to all aspects of economic life, from production to labor organization, from consumption to resource distribution, is not a utopia; indeed, it shows that another world is possible.”
:jesus:
Participatory Economics:
http://www.zmag.org/ParEcon/pelac.htm
As far as I know, nobody is – officially, anyway – calling for the removal of US citizens of Mexican (or any other) descent. That is why I would say there’s a pretty obvious distinction between the immigration paranoia and, say, the Hutu attemping to dispel the Tutsi.
Whether one agrees with it or not is a different matter, of course, and certainly there are plenty of “patriots” who would like to see all of “those people” expelled from this country, regardless of citizenship. However, until the state sponsors (officially or otherwise) the removal of US citizens of certain ethnic or religious backgrounds, then I would say it isn’t ethnic cleansing – unlike the systematic destruction of, say, the native american people. I believe that would qualify as both ethnic cleansing and genocide.
PJ, thanks for posting the link to the petition. I signed it.
So are we getting a Rove indictment in the Friday document dump? It’s getting late. :knit2:
My definition goes beyond religious or ethnic. True, no one is calling for the expulsion…thanks to past struggles, that is not possible. Hell, Bush was out front with it. Anyway, my concern is if they go through with the plan to criminalize businesses for hiring illegals, then it could easily turn into a mass return of “illegals” to Mexico. Not at gunpoint, but through political/economic power relationships. Perhaps “ethnic cleansing” is too harsh for defining what I think may unfold here.
A few years back, this group, the Legions of Christ, took over a catholic school in atlanta. Numerous staunch catholic parents took their kids out of the school weeks in to the new school year and lost their tuition money. it was a disaster for many families in Atlanta. I’m glad to see something finally happened to the group’s leader, even if it’s small potatoes really. The sexual abuse allegations are horrendous (not in Atlanta but from elsewhere). From what I could tell, they try to indoctrinate the young children (especially boys). I think the church probably turned a blind eye to the group before because of the large number of priests they provided to the church.
“A Legion of Angels pouring from the sky
Viet Nam was just a joke”
:omg:
Immigration is this year’s Gay Marriage. The Congress will pass nothing meaningful, and the yahoos will crawl out of their hovels to vote, and together with the usual vote fraud and suppression, the Criminal Party triumphs again, all hail The Architect.
I’m getting tired of this broken record.
It would be much better if there was a mass exodus of “illegals” back to Mexico because there were quality jobs for them there. Invest in Mexico (and elsewhere in the world) and require that manufacturers pay a living wage, or we won’t import their goods. Difficult to enforce 100% perhaps, but certainly worth a try.
Personally, I do think they ought to criminalize corporations – not for the status of their employees but for crappy working conditions, sub-minimum pay, and in general exploiting the workers w/o regard to the employee’s immigration status. Hey, I guess if you can catch ’em tryign to enter the country illegally, then you can turn them away, but they should not turn the workplace into a branch of INS enforcement.
Trying to enforce some documentation scheme won’t work anyway – it’ll only serve to keep “illegals” exploited, because the root of the problem is that they can can’t complain about their working conditions or the employers will have them deported (or worse, if they manage to make being here illegally a felony). It’s that fear that allows corporations to exploit them. And employers will just pay off politicians and law enforcement in order to keep their supply of cheap labor.
That also serves to lower everybody’s pay, because if these employers can save a few bucks an hour and not provide benefits – and can abuse their employees at will – then they won’t provide decent working conditions for anybody.
That’s what these redneck rascists need to understand – the only way to make things better for all of us is to protect the workers – on both sides of the border.
Is anyone here mad at Leopold (or Truthout) for the “false” Rove report?:omg:
I would be “mad” at whoever gave him bad information – if that’s what happened. It bothers me if the traditional media take this and spin it into a way to discredit the alternative media (as if the traditional media hadn’t already been thoroughly discredited – except for that guy Mike from NBC, of course).
My experience is with false documents. Businesses hire people they believe are legal. They don’t probe. Perhaps the immigrants get low wages, but they are prevailing wages. And many are in unions. Now, with the push to audit and otherwise go after businesses, the immigrants will become truly illegal, and the situation you describe (and rightly denounce) will be the common place. To reiterate, I believe that most of the 11 million have documentation that provides some sort of space. Until now, the feds have looked the other way, more or less. Furthermore, I believe that if there is a crackdown on false documentation, many of the 11 million immigrants will not be able sustain themselves here. And then there is the police-style crackdown that many seem to call for. Roundups and deportations.
PJ: In regards to your first paragraph: It would be nice, or as Jason Leopold once wrote me on a similat topic, when the cow jumps over the moon. But still, this sort of thing is aan ideal that we need to strive towards.
Tyger Thom Update:
Next week’s highlights on KPOJ
Tune into Thom Hartmann from 6am – 9am
Monday, May 22nd:
Capitol Hill insider David Sirota – his new book “Hostile Takeover”
Tuesday, May 23rd:
Washington Congressman Brian Baird
BlueOregon.com’s Kari Chisholm
Historian Morris Berman – “Dark Ages America: The Final Phase of Empire”
Lise Saffran w/ “Into the Blue” – update on effort to link progressives on the West & East Coasts with those in the Midwest
Wednesday, May 24th:
Oregon Congressman Peter DeFazio
Willamette Week editor Mark Zusman
Grant Remington with Northwest Veterans for Peace – Portland’s new Peace Memorial Park
Thursday, May 25th:
Oregon Secretary of State Bill Bradbury – “Fair Elections Commission” looks at union elections
David Korten – “The Great Turning: From Empire to Earth Community”
Friday, May 26th:
Oregon AFL-CIO president Tom Chamberlain
Hey all…just got home, catching up to streaming and blogging. Hope everybody is well today.
“Ethnic cleansing/genocide is not voluntary.”
Janeane is just announcing that she will limit her time on the Majority Report. She will come in M-Th on a limited basis but then pinch hit for Sam on Friday’s. She says she has chosen not to take a salary from AAR. She says the reason she is pulling back is because she can’t take listening to Bush and the right wing media everyday!
I wonder if that’s the real reason…
Hi everyone….long difficult day today.
I think that Jeaneane has been planning on leaving for a while. From what Ive heard since she came back from the west wing she feels like Sam has gotten better and she has gotten rusty…and she feels like shes not as good as Sam anymore. When she talks about it, it almost sounds like an ego thing. I’ll miss her if she is really leaving, but shes been absent for so long that its not really new to have her only in once or twice per week.
Also….this crazy DaVinci thing is driving me crazy, though I may go and see it because it looks good and I didnt read the book. The thing is that the Today show, the rest of TV, the newsmagazines, ….everyone is talking about it like its some big assault on Christianity…as if its a real theory. Its FICTION!!!
The churchs here are all doing weeks of sermons about it and unravelling the TRUTH that may or may not be there.
Considering that the bible may also be FICTION, I suppose that all of these people think that this should knock the war and imigration and social security off the front page…but, what a frekin waste of time and paper!
I heard that the book wasnt very good anyway.
…and who has time to read anymore?? I can barely get through the blogs and the Times, much less the local paper just to see when large trash pickup day is…and then maybe do my email…
Books? Im saving piles of unread ones for retirement.
FK, preggers…Heheheh…Ready for a new baby FK?
NOT ME!!
Im still catching up but may have to go and lay down.
Also….this crazy DaVinci thing is driving me crazy, though I may go and see it because it looks good and I didnt read the book. The thing is that the Today show, the rest of TV, the newsmagazines, ….everyone is talking about it like its some big assault on Christianity…as if its a real theory. Its FICTION!!!
The churchs here are all doing weeks of sermons about it and unravelling the TRUTH that may or may not be there.
Considering that the bible may also be FICTION, I suppose that all of these people think that this should knock the war and imigration and social security off the front page…but, what a frekin waste of time and paper!
I heard that the book wasnt very good anyway.
…and who has time to read anymore?? I can barely get through the blogs and the Times, much less the local paper just to see when large trash pickup day is…and then maybe do my email…
Books? Im saving piles of unread ones for retirement.
FK, preggers…Heheheh…Ready for a new baby FK?
NOT ME!!
Im still catching up but may have to go and lay dow
Hey Melina 🙂 I think that althought the DaVinci code is fiction, it’s fiction supposedly based on real research (at least according to Dan Brown, the author)…and these days people get offended with any topic that presents a religion as something different than the way it is normally portrayed. Come to think of it, it’s a fair bet that if a movie is about religion and isn’t controversial at all, it’s going there’s going to be a long line of people outside of some theater raving about how they’re upset. Religion just does that to people – seems like there can’t be “different” takes on something without people calling “different ideas” an “attack”. The book was pulp fiction as far as the plot went (predictable plot with sometimes ludicrous events, cardboard characters ), but it did have some interesting ideas and it’s for that reason I’m probably going to see the movie.
Yeah Suz- I think Ill probably see the movie too. I just keep thinking of Mel Gibson’s torturefest crucifiction bloodbath and how the churches and other religious groups bought a zillion copies of the DVD and rented whole theaters to screen the thing…
I wonder if anti religion groups should flood the theaters for this one too.
I was listening to some older people talking about the movie in a waiting room today and it was all about Tom Hanks and how much they liked him in the Airport movie…
It was sheer genious to cast him in this movie. He is probably the one American actor who can pull it off because people, for some unknown reason, like him.
I even like him….
Imagine if it was Tom Cruise in the lead role;-)
Its just that Matt Lauer went on the DaVinic trail, and they were discussing things like debunking the number of tiles on some wall and if it matched the bible….whatever…
Then I went to Borders bookstore and theyve got DaVinic tables full of books on top of books for and against and alongside the theories…and games…and playing cards with little blurbs on them….ugh!
Its like a little piece of Las Vegas…
Melina, don’t forget the Kristians got all hot and bothered over Harry Potter, too.
Yeah, if anyone can make this movie work, it’ll be Tom Hanks (I like him also). Actually I think it’s good that people get worked up and even angry if it makes them discuss real religious ideas. Yay discussion :). I just don’t like the idea of people calling for censorship. Tom Cruise in this would just make people giggle and say “scientologist” under their breath 😯 Tables full of DaVinci themed books in bookstores is good if it gets your average Joe to read about ideas like this when they normally wouldn’t. I almost went to see it tonight but I figured I’d avoid the opening night craziness.
Me thinketh that the Kristians doth protesteth too much!:nod:
ok, I posted Krugman and Friedmsn on RIPCoco…just scroll past the pictures and a bit of text and there they are….
:tinfoil: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_cyberspace#Free_web_proxy_services
The XM call-to-arms is pretty good. The RIAA essentially has no way to stop any of this. Every satellite receiver has an analog headphone jack & good quality stereo, and every computer has an analog stereo input. Add the right software that any joe-blow can cook up as a class-project and put on SourceForge and you have the perfect TiVo player.
And if they want to prevent XM from playing music so that no one can record it, you have to wonder what is the point to anything?
blah, going to check the other blog
Lalalala
I can’t log on to the other place, motherfuckers are keeping me out. Wake up sheeple and talk to me :fu:
::wheel of anger::: spin it baby. This is pathetic, I’m typing to myself
:fu:
They paved the way for Mr. Rogers, too. Firesign Theater.
woohoooo I woke somebody up
I can’t believe how many commercials are on this, sheesh.
I’m in the mood for french fries or drugs, at the moment I have neither in the house…
ok here we go. Call on line 8, Jim is on the line. People who drive while on the cell phone. Make this good dude
I live in Asheville, NC and I was at the epicenter of the first wave of *****mania in Greensboro, NC in the winter of 98. I’m the one who originally took the tape to Portland.
Circulate those tapes!
:nixon::jesus::peace::nixon:
yeahh. Tell us your story
Do you get a lot of people telling you tape stories?
mmmm rock ‘n roll stories
“Popcorn” by Hot Butter
DC was the first one. We thought we had the lineage down. I’ll tell you more about it later.
I was in a local classical music store today. Almost bought an Ernest Bloch CD.:sdavid:
Gershon Scholem?
That song Popcorn…he went under the name “Hot Butter” for that song. It was a huge hit.
Get Littles Steven on your show. He educates a lot about Cassavettes.
ok, I meed some kind of chart/graph or map of the travels of this tape
Ernest Bloch
(1880 – 1959)
Ernest Bloch was born in Switzerland and died at Agate Beach, Oregon. His work divides into four main periods. In the earliest, he falls under the influence of Richard Strauss and Modest Mussorgsky, an odd combination, to say the least. The works of this period – like the Symphony in C Sharp minor and the tone poem Printemps-Hiver – impress you as trying to find their way. They have not absorbed their influences; the joins show. Later, Bloch exchanges Strauss for Claude Debussy and strengthens the Mussorgsky ties. This results in his opera Macbeth, considered by many as the finest operatic version of a Shakespearean tragedy. The ties to Mussorgsky’s Boris Godunov are apparent, but Bloch has made Mussorgsky’s devices (irregular metrical shifts, odd chord progressions and cadences) his own.
In the second, so-called “Jewish,” period, Bloch takes up specific Jewish subject matter (although not musical matter) and writes the one work by which he is still remembered: Schelomo, a rhapsody for cello and orchestra based on the figure of Solomon and the book of Ecclesiastes. During this time, he also produces psalm settings for tenor and orchestra, the Trois Poèmes juifs, and the suite Baal Shem for violin and piano. Here, Bloch single-handedly creates a manner all his own – epic, passionate, powerful – with obvious reminiscences of cantorial melos. Once he finds this, for the most part, the specific Jewish references become objectified, submerged, or turned to other expressive uses. He will return to Jewish material for inspiration, but he no longer writes specifically “Jewish” music. Indeed, many of his works seen as Jewish actually have their origins in his imaginative vision of Asian and Pacific jungles.
Good idea for an article. More surprises…
Speaking of charting, you are not getting credit for your posts. Stuck on 1113.
There was a parallel movement in Portland that our camp had no knowledge of until the mania began pouring out of Portland. Outsiders made a documentary and publicized. Perhaps something similar is happening in Jersey, under your nose.
I love these kind of musical bios…
It’s great how this kind of thing (NR) can start movements everywhere just by people turning other people on to things…there’s this myth perpetrated that the only thing that can do that is direct media marketing, but that’s a big lie…
Ernest Bloch was on his way to Berkeley to accept a teaching position, driving on the coast highway. He fell in love with the Oregon Coast. So he bought a beach house. His home is now a tourist attraction, or a landmark, at least.
It’s DIY, Baby!
Hi Gang
NickiRose, I am forewarning you, but I am going to send you a letter SENT TO ME OF ALL PEOPLE, anti-Isreli. Mostly I say things back, to this twit guy I was close, but I think we are growing apart. But I would love your response (to a onetime dear, but now a JERK)
New Jersey
LA
Ft Myers
Gainesville
Greensboro
Cryptic mythmaking jerk…:omg:
Send it my way.
Yup, NJ being point of origin, but I wonder which town? :tongue:
Hey Druid :jesus:
Please help me to respond to this one.
Israeli Professor:
‘We Could Destroy All European Capitals’
By Nadim Ladki
2-6-3
(IAP News) — An Israeli professor and military historian hinted that Israel could avenge the holocaust by annihilating millions of Germans and other Europeans.
Speaking during an interview which was published in Jerusalem Friday, Professor Martin Van Crevel said Israel had the capability of hitting most European capitals with nuclear weapons.
“We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets of our air force.”
Creveld, a professor of military history at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, pointed out that “collective deportation” was Israel’s only meaningful strategy towards the Palestinian people.
“The Palestinians should all be deported. The people who strive for this (the Israeli government) are waiting only for the right man and the right time. Two years ago, only 7 or 8 per cent of Israelis were of the opinion that this would be the best solution, two months ago it was 33 per cent, and now, according to a Gallup poll, the figure is 44 percent.”
Creveld said he was sure that Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon wanted to deport the Palestinians.
“I think it’s quite possible that he wants to do that. He wants to escalate the conflict. He knows that nothing else we do will succeed.”
Asked if he was worried about Israel becoming a rogue state if it carried out a genocidal deportation against Palestinians, Creveld quoted former Israeli Defense Minister Moshe Dayan who said “Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.”
Creveld argued that Israel wouldn’t care much about becoming a rogue state.
“Our armed forces are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that this will happen before Israel goes under.”
How far away is Providence, RI?
Not sure, it’s further than Boston though, so several hundred miles I would think
Providence: big college town, music center I think…bands like the Talking Heads came from there
This is rehashed stuff. The supposition about nuking Europe to avenge for the Holocaust is lunacy. The professor is a psychotic, I’ll bet. If Israel were to destroy Europe, it would, among other things, would lose a source of revenue. Read Norman Finkelstein’s
Holocaust Industryfor more on this.I had friends who made a documentary about Israel and Palestine, in the early 1990s. Some of the people interviewed called for the removal of Palestinians (from Palestine). People in Israel took them about as seriously as we do those kluxers who screech about sending illegal aliens back. It’s bad, but not as bad as some report.
The mad dog theme crops up from time to time. Seymour Hersh’s “Samson Option” comes to mind. Hell, I don’t trust the leaders of this country. Did you know that we almost got into a nuclear exchange with the Soviet Union in 1962. A Soviet sumarine commander, who was getting bombed by US jets as he was trying to reach Cuba–and thereby breaking the naval blockade– was ordered to fire a nuclear missile at the US. He said NO!
:omg:
Suzie Joy,
Heather Locklear is a Lib too. I think since younger I knew somewhere in brain “Bruce” but put on same line as Heather…but YOU have made me HEAR BRUCE CLEARER — and not just for hubby’s sake…..But you saying it — It was like the first time I HEARD BRUCE…You have made David Happy, and force me to relisten, hmmmm. 😉 (I have a tendency to ignore Libs that I don’t like :D) :eek::eek::joe:
Of course Bruce is a Lib, Druid… listen to how romantic his lyrics are, he romanticizes everything even while he’s complaining about it (not meant to criticize him, but he does that to a fault sometimes) it’s that whole Venus sensibility
NickiRose, This man is a relative so I can’t totally dismiss him — although they know I can disappear from asshole family members. Shit, not again…..we are supose to keep family ties ECK! I get soooooo bored with stupidity :growl:
Suzie Joy , You made me see the Light 😉
B R U C E ———– but I was the Talking Heads type not Bruce :tongue::smack: But I Will give him a new chance Bah HumBug. :smack:
He is just spouting old propaganda.
Hey I like the Talking Heads also…(and all that New Wave Stuff), but Bruce was (is) special
I thought you were talking about Bruce Willis! Liberal!:rofl2:
NickiRose, I did tell him that some might think that…just like many would hate my animal and environmental stands — but beliefs will hit :balance” again once bush is GONE and a better leader comes forth. 🙂
Bruce Willis???? :omg: I don’t think so.
NickiRose, Re 137 :rofl2: :rofl2: Willis Liberal :rofl2:
After decades of living among hostile neighbors, Israel has yet to be attacked by an enemy using nuclear, chemical or biological weapons. One reason may be the horrific plan some claim Israel drew up to prevent such an attack. The plan was called the Samson Option. An astute investigative journalist and student of history chalked a dramatic potential solution to the volatile equation on the blackboard – a decade ago.
“Should war break out in the Middle East again and should the Syrians and the Egyptians break through again as they did in 1973 [Yom Kippur War], or should any Arab nation fire missiles again at Israel, as Iraq did [in the 1991 Gulf War], a nuclear escalation, once unthinkable except as a last resort, would now be a strong possibility.”
Pulitzer Prize-winning author (“My Lai 4”) Seymour M. Hersh made this hypothesis in his 1991 best seller “The Samson Option.”
Captured and cruelly maimed, the book’s biblical namesake uttered the ultimate fighting words, “Let my soul die with the Philistines.”
That said, the divinely empowered Samson pushed apart the temple pillars – collapsing the roof and killing himself as well as his enemies.
In his exposé of Israel’s clandestine nuclear arsenal, Hersh suggested that in the early days (late 1960s) of crude big-flash-and-bang nukes, one defensive option to counter an attack on Israel with weapons of mass destruction was for the beleaguered nation to mimic Samson and grimly trade holocaust for holocaust.
Hersh’s 1991 prognostication of a “strong possibility” of the use by Israel of nuclear weapons rested on his knowledge that by the mid-1980s, Israeli technicians at the super-secret Dimona nuclear plant had produced hundreds of low-yield neutron warheads capable of destroying large numbers of enemy troops with minimal property damage.
Israel’s ability to use nukes tactically and surgically, however, has evolved a great deal since the Samson option was still realistically an option.
NickiRose, Just to reiterate — and just cuz she’s (Susan Joy) is a Lib = Libra :rofl2:
I did not have any role models in my life so I picked the common denominator of successful fellow Libs (Libras) 😀
Despite the bristling inventory of nukes, the Israelis have a laudable history of restraint in brandishing, much less using, these most destructive of all weapons of mass destruction.
In fact, for most of the latter half of the 20th century, the Israeli Bomb remained invisible and unacknowledged. Israel’s official position was to neither confirm nor deny its nuclear status, only pledging on the record “not to be the first to introduce nuclear weapons to the Middle East.”
A Show of Restraint
According to Hersh, the best example of Israeli restraint in the face of great provocation came during the Gulf War.
On the second day of the American invasion, Saddam Hussein fired eight Scud missiles at noncombatant Israel. Two of the conventionally armed missiles landed on Tel Aviv. Then Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir responded by ordering mobile missile launchers armed with nuclear weapons moved into the open and deployed facing Iraq.
The Samsonesque strongman of the Middle East had stirred – and the world held its breath.
Promising Patriot missile batteries and loads of future aid, the United States pressured Israel to keep cool. After all, the allied coalition included a number of Arab nations, and the U.S. feared that dramatic Israeli retaliation could fragment the fragile alliance.
By the end of the Gulf War, Israel had dutifully absorbed 26 Scuds
NickiRose, Thank You. I will be coping that, if you don’t mind.
I could have bought a used
Darkness on the Edge of TownLP. $4. But I said I’d wait until payDay!That’s my favorite record by him actually. Though I lost all my vinyl in a condo fire a few years back, so now it’s all on CD or MP3 🙁
I am going to send Janeane an email, sense that Lib is not going to be here regularly — save for Fridays
🙁
The US Government has immense on Israel. Sure, Israel is belligerent in the Middle East, and their treatment of the Palestinians is awful; but their is no way that the US would allow Israel to nuke Europe.
I had to check google to make sure that was Bruce you folk were talking of :doh: :rofl2:
I probably know many of his songs — but not by name or due to me purchasing it. The few tunes of his is due to “hubby dearest” :rofl2:
NickiRose, 😉
that’s the only Bruce I gnerally talk about… I usually don’t attach his last name, sorry :tongue: You probably heard Bruce songs done by other people anyway, Patti Smith, Manfred Mann to name a couple
That sucks! I was going to list my Springsteen vinyls–but I won’t.
Kareem Abdul Jabbar lost his fabulous record collection in a dire. That sucks!
Blinded by the light…:omg:
you can still list them 😮
Because the Night
oh, Robert Gordon and a couple of other people covered “Fire”
I have to feed the strays :billcat: — since now its their time, dear Creatures of the Night (and all neat songs of the night), and it is All about them now, so I tell them :love:
So, Led Z, Talking Heads hmmm Susan Joy, what say you of Stevie Nicks and Jethro Tull?
NickiRose, I love ALL roses (but Super Fav it red).
What is in your music repertoire?
…Belongs to Lovers!
I recently bought a super fine copy of The River for $2. There are a lot of good record stores in Portland.
feed & tea :joe: :banana:
😉
I wish I still had a turntable. I love The River
I must practice playing my alto bock flote.
Rock Stars got it made in the shade.
Did your turntable go in the fire?
lately I’ve been listening to the Live in NYC album a lot
NickiRose, Yea that is the song going thru my brain, but couldn’t think of the name. :doh::tongue:
I could see it ( the time, what I was doing at school, and at work, me humming it and dancing to it :banana:
yep, I lost everything, except for me and my bird. All of my artwork – though most of that was scanned and online, so I have scans of it all but not originals.
what do you play, the recorder? I know you sing…
Which song?
Is Janeane really quitting the Majority Report?
I think she said she’s limiting her appearances…I forgot how many days a week, Druid knows I think
I bought a cd today. Sacred chants from the Melchite Church, sung by Sister Marie Keyrouz. George Clinton was in store, signing copies of his latest.
Why? Is she too busy? I have hypochondria when it comes to AAR.
the Funkmeister, cool 🙂
Janeane is so good on the radio. I hope it has nothing to do with profitability. Wait, she has a contract.
I am listening to Malloy on KTLK.
Hypochondria?? hehe. I didn’t hear what she said, just what other people on this blog said. I think she said that it was because she was tired of hearing about Bush, though people speculated that she was jealous of Sam becoming a better radio person when she was off taping West Wing
Malloy cracks me up. It’s interesting that when Randi rants it doesn’t do a thing for me but when he does it it’s amusing
He just called General Hayden a “bald, fat, nazi bastard.”
She is a natural radio talent. Her politics are much better than Randi Rhodes, as well.
indeed he did :nod:
Oh. You aare listening to LTLK, too.
Daniel Pipes is a zionist dog!
People aren’t losing confidence in George. Everybody loves him. Hehehe. Hehehe.
Michael Savage clips coming up, I’m getting angry already 😡
I can’t leave you folk…..everytime I do you mention such wonderful things and sad things.
Suzie Joy, first sorry I just focused on your Z in your name and I think I put an s
I am sooooo sorry about your art. That is like losing a part of your breath, like part of your soul (some say like a child). I also draw/paint but I want to be like O’Keefe .. and discovered when died, same with writings but that does get sent when ever done. 😉
NickiRose, Wow, Alto. What type of genre? It could be like my friend who has to carry with her a Grand (piano) :rofl2: My lead balloon humour.
Just you speaking reminds me I must listen this weekend to Hildegard von Bingen to calm me, perhaps.
I believe she was copied from, then came the Gregorian Chants. The Pope knew what she was doing BEFORE THE CHANTS.
I wasn’t intensely listening, but I believe she said Mondays and Fridays — but definately Fridays. 🙁