Yesterday wasn’t exactly a banner day, was it? Especially for those of use who take a train to work everyday. Hundreds heart or killed in India, and then a Chicago subway train derailing during the evening rush hour. Gives you something to think about during those mindless commutes. And of course we learned that Syd Barrett died quietly last week, bringing his creative and troubled story to a sad ending.
Hopefully today will bring some better news.
:banana: me first, but to bed :yawn: who else is here:?:
:billcat::fist: ITMFA :fist: :billcat:
ImpeachTheMotherFuckerAlreadyYEA:banana:Wanwenxia is #1:banana:YEA
I knew what ITMFA meant 😉 :banana:
ARREST! IMPEACH! VIGILANCE!
AAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGG :banana::nixon::fustrate:
I’m not sure I am here but maybe present..err accounted for ..err.. I don’t know ..:yawn::yawn::yawn::joe::joe::joe:
:banana: :banana:Hi Druid and Fred :banana::banana:
:jason: :fist:
ITMFA:fist: :jason::joe::billcat::banana:Fred is #3:billcat::joe:
:rofl2:quick! Infusion is needed! WAKE UP:!::rofl2:
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Wanwenxia, (Fred included)
:jason::fist::rofl2:I Like Your Style:rofl2::fist::jason:
ARREST! IMPEACH! VIGILANCE!
I need something calming to get to sleep
:alc: :40: :bong::?:
:billcat: :fist: ITMFA :fist: :billcat:
:pent:Pleasent Dreams :knit::gate::yawn: 😉
AIV (if too active then aiv (snicker))
So is Drobney trying to center AAR’s programming to attract Rich Liberal investors ?? I read that article by Drobney in the Huffington Post.
http://tinyurl.com/rd2wf
Is disorganized labor so poor it can’t put in some money ??
There seem to be a lot of liberal talkers around that they could glue together to make a days of syndicated programming. Money may explain why Maron is having trouble… to much overhead. To bad they didn’t get their act together about 20 years sooner when there were rich unions and liberals weren’t so poor.:eek::shock::yuck:
Fred was the first to list the :fu::fist::jason:and therefore I learned a “good” follow-through ending with what I had never used (only the :fist:). I just :growl: :billcat: but now .:eek:..:jason: :rofl2:
ARREST! IMPEACH! VIGILANCE!:wink:
The left in Mexico seems to be stoking the fires for the demonstrations this weekend.
http://www.narconews.com/Issue42/article1972.html
The difference between Mexico and the US seems to be that there is a real left sided media in Mexico.
:fist:
Interesting article, Fred. Good morning all :joe: I’m confused why Clear Channel doesn’t advertise; this is a good point.
:banana::banana::banana: OH and good morning Driud ,,Wanwenxia.. and Susan …:banana::banana:
Grrroooowwwwnnnn .. need more :joe::joe::joe::joe::rant1:
Hey, according to CNN “breaking news,” Israel has now invaded Lebanon. So, that should work out well.
Israel may be the first country to find out experimentally if there are any nukes lying around in third world countries.:gate::omg::jason::fist:
wait… wait ..we have lots of nukes don’t we .. have a :banana::banana:
I was just writing about the Drobney article… then came your post. That literally took my breath away.
😥 🙁 😥
ARREST! IMPEACH! VIGILANCE!
CNN
Riley shut the f… up!. I turned on TV to hear about the bombing. Israel has just caused the DEATH of the young soldier. IDIOTS!!!!!! (The young soldier has NOT been killed, yet, but by Israel “actions” I would be shocked if he lives.) Torture (more?)is imminent.
ARREST! IMPEACH! VIGILANCE!
So Israel invades lebanon, Medicare premiums go up 11% , Novac says he got his info from Rove and Riley.. has 45 minutes on the regulation of Internet gambling.. Do we see when this is going ..:crap::rant1:
Oh, Rummy’s in Baghdad. He should probably stay there to keep an eye on things. Funny how they always seem to go on “surprise” visits. If things weren’t going so well over there, you’d almost think they were afraid to tell anybody ahead of time.
With AQ now producing their own news programs. running a web site,, how soon before they infiltrate the CIA and know in advance of these surprise visits ?? :jason::jason::jason:
take all your overgrown infants away somewhere
and build them a home a little place of their own
the fletcher memorial
home for incurable tyrants and kings
and they can appear to themselves every day
on closed circuit t.v.
to make sure they’re still real
it’s the only connection they feel
“ladies and gentlemen, please welcome reagan and haig
mr. begin and friend mrs. thatcher and paisley
mr. brezhnev and party
the ghost of mccarthy
the memories of nixon
and now adding colour a group of anonymous latin
american meat packing glitterati”
did they expect us to treat them with any respect
they can polish their medals and sharpen their
smiles, and amuse themselves playing games for a while
boom boom, bang bang, lie down you’re dead
safe in the permanent gaze of a cold glass eye
with their favourite toys
they’ll be good girls and boys
in the fletcher memorial home for colonial
wasters of life and limb
is everyone in?
are you having a nice time?
now the final solution can be applied
I dunno fred. Those AQ news guys don’t seem to sharp. They’d be nothing without Tina, the weather hostage.
“Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert says the attack on Israel’s northern border by Lebanese guerrillas was an “act of war.””
But Israel has been bombing Lebanon, for the past week. :smack: My head hurts, and I do not have headaches. :tinfoil:
PJ I think they inadventently already did that its just that when the final solution is applied there will be a whole lot of very surprised ( but not for very long) Americans. :gate::omg::jason:
I think Israel has been bombing Gaza not Lebanon.. Lebanon is north of israel, Gaza is like south of israel, between Israel and Egypt..:?::?::?::tongue:
Riley.. has 45 minutes on the regulation of Internet gambling.. Do we see when this is going ..
Comment by fred — July 12, 2006 @ 6:45 am
Strip poker on line? :barf:
Hey, Riley just played a soundbite from Dennis Kucinich! And now he’s playing a soundbite from Riley!
It’s HECKUVA job, though, Mark. Not GREAT job.
:rofl2:
I thought the MS AQ news segments were the best .. Maybe AQ should design their program in that style and Americans would watch them.:!::!::!:
Morning, such as it is. :billcat:
add this to the news mix:
U.S. Terror Targets: Petting Zoo and Flea Market?
The National Asset Database, as it is known, is so flawed, the inspector general found, that as of January, Indiana, with 8,591 potential terrorist targets, had 50 percent more listed sites than New York (5,687) and more than twice as many as California (3,212), ranking the state the most target-rich place in the nation.
[…]
One business owner who learned from a reporter that a company named Amish Country Popcorn was on the list was at first puzzled. The businessman, Brian Lehman, said he owned the only operation in the country with that name.
“I am out in the middle of nowhere,” said Mr. Lehman, whose business in Berne, Ind., has five employees and grows and distributes popcorn. “We are nothing but a bunch of Amish buggies and tractors out here. No one would care.”
But on second thought, he came up with an explanation: “Maybe because popcorn explodes?”
Yeah, they should get a jugheaded blotchy-faced loudmouth jerk to do their show. It would be the #1 cable “news” program.
Well Kevin :tinfoil:maybe we could find a couple of female rethug androids and reprogram them .. you know hook them up to the USB port..:omg::hubba::hubba:
Yeah, I saw that FK. That goes along with the testimony in Congress yesterday about how the already public SWIFT program being “outed” by the NYT, LAT, and WSJ was such a huge blow to the anti-terror effort. We seem to be targeting the idiot terrorists, like the shoe bomber, Moussaoui, and the Miami Seven.
If you make them “self cleaning,” I might be willing to buy one.
As long as they’re USB 2.0, of course.
I don’t know PJ..:tinfoil: self cleaning might require a major redesign.. remember these are rethug androids ..:yuck::no:
Marc’s description of folks driving around in clown cars comes to mind, PJ.
they never posted the second half of Monday’s show. Cnick posted a link for it. Podcasting had its upside…the commercials are horrible.
PJ You want them to be “fast” women :?::hubba::hubba:
Fred, some clarity please. I know where the Gaza strip is and where Lebanon is…but I thought I heard that on TV. That’s why I got so emotional — I thought that was too close to a WWIII type of battle starting. I guess I will listen for the TV news to restate and also clarify.
Not a WWII type of battle.. In WWII both sides had similar weapons.. We didn’t use tanks against citizens armed with bricks.:rant1: Lebanon is almost a part of Syria. Syria has an army but I don’t believe Lebanon has one.
Yeah, my computer at home records the stream, so I can get it and edit out the commercials when I have a chance, but it sure would be easier to get the damn podcast. They never got back to me on how to unsubscribe from their premium service, or if they would prorate. I figured I’d post the instructions here as a public service.
One of the US Soldiers who had a camera in “The War Tapes” came over from Lebanon when he was ten, with his mother. If you get a chance to see that movie, you should. Perhaps not the “feel good movie of the year,” but it should be required viewing for everybody on all sides of the political spectrum.
last time israel went in to lebanon aggressively, I believe, was the Sabra and Shatila massacre. Israel’s response is so excessive and no one stops them. Israel & the U.S. are acting like rogue nations.
Oh really? (note of facetiousness)
:jason:
The world should learn to disarm third world countries.
Have a :banana:
The world should learn how to disarm. Unfortunately, I think it’ll take a sizable meteor hit to do that.
Not clear but getting closer and sadly, I don’t think I was that off the target.
–Southern Lebanon, was talked of.
–A major meeting of high-ranking Hesbulah and Lebanse militants in Gaza were bombed. Two Israeli soldiers are being held in S. Lebanon, by Hesbulah militants. But I am not clear yet! I hope the news report “loops” again.
“Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert says the attack on Israel’s northern border by Lebanese guerrillas was an “act of war.”” It is all too “apocalyptic”.
If you look at the criteria for being a third world county the US is a third world country with an army..
The problem is as long as there are rethugs with any bit of power they will just get in the way of fixing that problem.
All these talk fools have guests who are living in their own glass castle, drinking a latte and smoking a joint who have no clue what is really going on..
All I hear is well the pendulum will swing back to the left and then it will swing back to right. I think it does that but the whole system is laying on its side and about to go down.
AAR is just there to keep everyone on the left lying around the pool from dumping their stocks and fleeing until its to late.
Lets just appease everyone by telling funny jokes and sound like we are being proactive and everyone will feel so much better until they look out the window and see a fish swimming by.
:jason::jason::jason::jason::jason::fist:
Morning / Evening :yinyang:
Fred, a third world country with an army and an unburst debt bubble.
There’s a storm a brewin’. That’s more worry than North Korea.
A lot of the accumulated wealth in the US is in the 401k’s and the property of the baby boomers. A lot of the US GDP (something like 19%) is in Financial industry profits caused by the interest Americans pay on their mortgages and credit cards. Once this wealth is syphoned off there will be no one in the silo capeable of replenish the pot and there will be no reason to have us around. :yuck::eek::shock::paranoid:
Maybe its time for the next “great flood” :rant1:
pj-
is from AAR.
Money grubbing…
Regarding #45 I agree so much with what you say.
I HAVE REACHED CLARITY (a bit):
Isreal bombing and killing saying “War…”
The 1 Israeli soldier NOT RESCUED, thus (I feel)TORTURE AND DEATH Immenant
2 Israeli soldiers are kidnapped and held >>>IN S.LEBANON.
That’s why I am on “Pins and “Needles.
I wonder what happens if you signed up for a year – or even for a month – of TMMS only? Maybe they automatically convert you over to Springer.
Fred, I think you give AAR too much credit. I don’t think the people lying around the pool are paying one whit of attention to AAR.
Druid, was that Pins and Needles or Needles and Pins?
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#51 I feel it has started with Global Warming and the melting of the Glaziers.
It is all evil Bush and his evil administration fault. They could have calmed….but of course they just have ignited.
:yawn:
Good Morning. :joe: We have a lot to learn from the Mexicans :fist:
I have thought for some time “who does AAR think their audience is”?
I would think that the day time Reich wing talkers have an audience made up primarily of those rethugs living lavish life styles with no visible means of support. (they live either off dividends or work nights) I have seen some construction workers who listen too.
The Reich’s commercials are all rich rethug oriented but so are AAR’s.
The majority of the working people have to be streaming their shows since AM radio does not work under fluorescent lights. In Denver there also seem to be some construction workers and truckers who listen on broadcast radio or XM.
Constantly telling them that they are in deep dodo without telling them how to get out of it must be more depressing that positive.
Since most of the callers seem to be people externalizing what they are hearing I was thinking that they must be the ones sitting around the pool or around their pool table.. just waiting for the dividend or social security check. They can’t be someone who’s job is threatened by globalization, who has been laid off for two years, or who can’t find money to pay their utility bill or buy their meds or both.
:rant1::rant1::rant1::yuck::eek::shock:
😉 😉 Hi, King Kong, Kevin M:wink:, Farmerkat, and…
King Kong :rofl2: I’ve heard it. I saw a picture of you today and thought of you and your travels :rofl2:
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Kristapea re #58, Morning :nod: 😉
I am going to not have :joe: 🙁 since I should be getting more that just a few hours of sleep.:D
Fred, Re #59 :nod:
I so agree with you. Oneday I will have to show you my true responses, because I self edit and c & v it to “Word”.
I have to grab Danu pup from outside and (crawl) to bed since I have to be a regular person today :omg:and go to a democratic meet this early eve :omg:(6pm) and this afternoon take an ex-stray in to get checked.
I wish I was coherent enough to respond to your powerful links, but:yawn::yawn::yawn::yawn::yawn::yawn:
Oh, a lot of working people work shift work, and are home during the day. They also listen in the car, and on the job site. A good, strong AM signal will work in a factory – and even with fluorescent lights. It might be noisy, but it’ll come in. In fact, AM will often come in where FM won’t. I used to be able to pick up WSYR-AM (bastion of right-wing talkers, though I was more interested in the SU games) in the subbasement of the hospital where I worked – filled with fluorescent lights, motors, transformers, and other very large equipment (the signal creeped in via the air intake/exhaust plenums).
The thing is that the right-wing meatheads are ubiquitous. If the radio is turned on to talk radio, odds are it’s a wingnut chowderhead – either national or a homegrown Rush imitator – blathering away. Or Jeezus Radio. So it’s really no wonder that so many people believe that Iraq had something to do with 9/11, or that the damn liberals are evil, cut and runners. It’s all they hear. If liberal radio can get on the air and start to let a little of the truth sink in, then maybe things can change.
It’s up to the people to figure out what to do. What can the radio do, really? What action can they advise? The first thing that needs to happen is that people need to be aware that world is more complicated than right-wing talking points, and choosing a “side” to be on. That’s why the fascists always take over the media first, because if you control the message, you control the :sheep:le. Progressive voices shouldn’t try to dominate the media – nobody should be allowed to dominate the public airwaves; they’re too important – but the progressives need to be able to get their message out there so that the people have the ability to make educated choices.
When the election is stolen, it’s up to the media to fairly report it, and it’s up to the people to get out into the streets and do something about it.
people have the ability to make educated choices.
In this administration: to receive an education?
Yeh Right …:rant1: who needs an education when one can join the Army?:yawn:
G’Night G’Day To one and to all.:wink::yawn:
…And to put out in the ether world …Night Raging Granny:rofl2::billcat::wink: wherever you are (and of course PJ:nod:)
Looks like #3 is Barnard Hughes. Always liked him, especially in the Lost Boys.
Hah! I always knew it was genetic.
No refunds on AAR premium cancellations. Okay. I bought six months of Maron [see how much faith i had in AAR?]. I paid for it, and we have a binding contract, no? You are not providing me with Maron after this Friday. You, AAR, are in violation of our contract. I am suing for deprivation of funny.
Oh, and emotional distress. That too.
If RAGING Granny buys that one, pj, more power to you! :fist:
That’s SEVERE emotional distress, crest2. Don’t forget the punitive damages, there’s big money in those. Do I smell a class action?? One listen to TMMS and the judge would certainly certify the class. :fire:
:banana:marc is awake!
:jason:i think i might be a psycho!
:nixon:oh how i love/hate aar!
Seanie, do you have your truck parked outside Marc’s home or something? :paranoid:
:fist:i like jeffy the penguin!
well lets just say that dodger stadium is high on a hill :rofl2:
Marc’s in trouble if Seanie Sean and the NSA guy join forces.
:nixon:fuck you! no not you YOU!
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who? 😕 ❓
http://www.jeffylikescandy.blogspot.com:banana:
Looks like Sean was arguing with himself again and lost:eek::rant1:
Israel declared war on Lebanon..what ever that means:yuck::rant1:
Citgo to Stop Selling Gas to U.S. Stations
Wednesday July 12, 12:31 pm ET
Venezuela-Owned Citgo to Stop Selling Gasoline to Hundreds of U.S. Stations
CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) — Venezuela-owned Citgo Petroleum Corp. has decided to stop distributing gasoline to some 1,800 U.S. stations, shedding a lackluster segment of its business while forcing the owners of those stations to find other suppliers.
While it may create some logistical headaches for gasoline retailers in the short term, the move should not have any impact on the nation’s overall fuel supply.
Citgo, which is wholly owned by Venezuela’s state oil company, currently has to purchase 130,000 barrels a day from third parties in order to meet its service contracts at 13,100 stations across the U.S. This is less profitable than selling gasoline directly from its refineries.
Instead, the Houston-based company has decided to sell to retailers only the 750,000 barrels a day that it produces at three U.S. refineries in Lake Charles, La., Corpus Christi, Texas and Lemont, Ill., according to a statement late Tuesday.
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/060712/venezuela_citgo.html?.v=3
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Chavez is learning from Exxon or what ??:crap::crap:
:shock:israel has nukes!
:|hi fred!
:spank:jeffy just put up a gay bashing blog
mr fk is out of iraq. I’ll hold off on the dancing banana, though:
bad news: he’s headed to a funeral. A family member of ours has died. Sad thing, cousin/niece in her 40’s fell in to coma after asthma attack and losing oxygen for a long while…not a good way to transition out of this life, poor thing.
Sorry to hear that, FK. Best wishes to you both.
:cry:sad! i almost died when i was a kid from an asthma attack not being able to breathe is horrible!
WASHINGTON – MySpace.com and other immensely popular social networking sites on the Internet were portrayed Tuesday as emerging playgrounds for sexual predators as lawmakers considered a measure to restrict their access in publicly funded schools and libraries.
“This is the hottest issue of the day,” Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott told reporters after testifying before a House subcommittee examining possible new federal restrictions to protect young Internet users from pedophiles.
A bill by Rep. Mike Fitzpatrick, R-Pa., would require schools and libraries that get federal funds to limit or ban access to social networking sites that could expose minors to sexual advances from adults.
http://tinyurl.com/ekgfo
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I kind of thought libraries in general were an endangered species.:fustrate::paranoid:
glad you’re still among us, Seanie! life would not be nearly as complete without you. :yinyang:
Thanks, guys.
🙁 Sorry to hear that Kat. Best wishes to you and Mr..
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The Bush administration is preparing a crackdown on intelligence leaks to the media and will try to pursue prosecutions in some recent cases, the chairman of the House of Representatives Intelligence Committee on Tuesday.
Michigan Republican Rep. Peter Hoekstra (news, bio, voting record) also suggested some unauthorized leaks could have been deliberate attempts to help al Qaeda.
http://tinyurl.com/fr5cu
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Someone needs to make congress live in fear.:gate::omg::jason::fist:
:mad:the bastards in buffalo were gonna close all the public libraries in the whole county!
:omg: Jeffy was naughty :spank::spank::jason:
:fu:so i guess the assholes in erie county not exactly buffalo but uh assholes just the same!
did you click jeffy’s links? i think jeffy isnt as bad as he seems!
Our library district is funded by property taxes but has its own library district.. I think they have attack helicopters.:jason::jason:
Don’t know about that Sean .. Your .. err… Jeffy’s sly irony was not as good as usual.:spank:
yeah jeffy was really bad!:spank:
I guess I didn’t follow the embedded links.. Jeffy is forgiven:priest::priest:
oh you missed those links! yeah jeffy is conflicted i think?
:?:So is this show a bit different in each place or is it getting BORING :?::?:
This week’s winner for the most disappointed web searcher is the person who searched for the following phrase, and wound up here:
old women grannies in porn films
Congratualtions, anonymous pervert from the UK.
After all this sturm und drang [since we got some ethnic german americans, i thought i could get away with this pretentious beginning] does anyone have a clue as to what exactly AAR offered Maron which he blew off and made a counter offer to? In other words, if we’re on the titanic, does anyone know exactly what’s causing it to sink? Why is everybody being so coy? If the offer sucks, why not tell us what it is?
I’m going to have a lie down now, all this mixing of metaphors is exhausting.
re #86 – It’s not clear to me why they would ban Myspace from libraries but not the internet in general… and why not just the children’s section of the library? Why do adults have to limit what they do on the internet in a library because of the fact that parents don’t monitor their children as they should?
Dunno. Marc had said he’d let us in on what it was all about, once it’s all over. Whether he’ll be able to in the end or not, who knows. They may just leave everything open through and past Friday (no point in burning bridges on either side, I guess). I certainly have no inside info, but it just kinda “feels” like Marc and ARR are at the end of their relationship. Of course, I actually kinda “felt” like the petition would save Morning Sedition, so what do I know?
Thanks for the insight PJ.
I think its best that this ends now, since AAR has twice shown that it is not going to support its talent, so Maron should find someone who will.
By the way, Bastards In Buffalo is a great name for a punk group.
The same malign intent from Israel towards the Palestinians is stamped through its history like the lettering in a children’s stick of seaside rock. But despite the consistent aim of Israeli policy, generation after generation of Western politicians, diplomats and journalists has shown a repeated inability to grasp what is happening before its very eyes.
The Palestinian historian Rashid Khalidi once noted that the first goal of Israel’s founders as they prepared to establish their Jewish state on a large swath of the Palestinian homeland in 1948 was to empty Palestine’s urban heartlands of their educated elites.
Even before Israel’s Declaration of Independence on 15 May 1948, most Palestinians had been terrified away from the two wealthiest cities in coastal Palestine, Jaffa and Haifa. Other Palestinian cities soon fell during the war of 1948: Israeli forces mostly cleansed Lydda, Ramle, Acre, Safad, Tiberias, Baysan and Bir Saba of their native populations. Today all these cities have been repopulated with Jews — as well as renamed.
JC
And so history repeats itself. As Israel’s violent siege of Gaza continues, the Associated Press reported this week that dozens of Palestinians with American passports have left Gaza, escorted out of the Strip in a convoy of United Nations vehicles. One Palestinian American mother said she and her children could no longer stand the terrifying sonic booms produced by Israeli aircraft flying overhead during the night.
These fleeing Palestinians have two things that most of their kin in Gaza lack: they have lots of money that they might have invested in rebuilding Gaza’s economy were Israel not intent on destroying it; and they are familiar with a language and ideas that might have conveyed very effectively to Western audiences the horror currently being endured by Gaza’s civilian population.
They are also among the least radicalised elements of Gaza’s population and might have been the ones most willing to start a dialogue with Israel — had Israel shown any interest in negotiating.
Outstanding commentary about Bill Clinton, the democrats and the war by Arianna Huffington.
HERE
A War on Families
After 30 Years, a Wife Loses Her Right to Enter Israel
By AMIRA HASS
“It must be a mistake, the caprice of a clerk at border control,” Aadel Samara responded when his wife Enayeh informed him by phone on May 26 that her entry to Israel, through the Sheikh Hussein Terminal (near Beit She’an), was not permitted. There was no reason to suspect anything but an error. After all, throughout their 30 years together this was the drill: Every three months, a day or two before the Israeli tourist visa in her American passport was set to expire, she would go away for a few days – to Jordan, sometimes Cyprus or Egypt, then return with a new visa for another three months.
Except when Aadel was working on his doctorate in economics, in Britain, she and the children joined him for part of the time.
The Samaras are both natives of Beit Ur al Foqa, a village west of Ramallah. Enayeh was born in 1950; Aadel in 1944. But in 1967, two months before the war, she visited her father, who was working in the United States.
After occupying the West Bank and Gaza Strip, Israel conducted a census and ruled that anyone who was not present in the territories at the time of the census ceased being a resident. Thus, like thousands of other Palestinians, Enayeh lost her residency status. In 1975, she visited her birthplace on an American passport, as a tourist. She met Aadel, they fell in love and married. When their daughter, Samer, was 39-days-old and still nursing, she accompanied her mother on the quarterly trip to Jordan for visa renewal. They submitted a dozen applications for “family reunification” –in vain.
The situation in Israel seems hopeless. What are we supposed to do about it? We can’t even effect change in Iraq.
Good critique of that sociopath Clinton–and the backlash politics that we have been forced to endure since 1968.
Seig Reagan!
Seig Wallace!
:fu:
I don’t think it’s hopeless, because the United States’ postion has everything to do with this… but here in the U.S. people have to let their reprentatives know where they stand and that this is not one big fan club of what the Israeli government does.
Bill Clinton really annoyed me with that “ought to be whipped” comment. Proving to me that he’s a DLC dem. Essentially he’s telling people to shut up and stop fighting, but on an even deeper level, to take the centrist path. Because the ones who “fight” aren’t centrists. I can never agree with the attitude that says there shouldn’t be infighting. I believe in infighting. I believe that people should stand up for what they believe. Iraq is not a minor squabble. Good article.
Oraganize and pressure the US Government to make the 51st State negotiate with the Palestinians. Palestinians are people with the same rights to national self-determination in historical Palestine as are Israelis. Stick your head in the lion’s mouth. It will get exciting.
Guys, let this be a lesson to you.
re: Israel,salon had a piece that’s worth a read:
Isi, feel so helpless i called the whitehouse comment line – pretty pitiful really.
What was your intention for posting that article on polygamous practices in rural Turkey?
The left has been trying to champion Palestinian rights for decades. I remember holding up a sign “Palestinian Homeland” at the Democratic National Convention in 1988 (Atlanta)and believe me, the Kansas delegates for Dukakis thought we, the KS Jesse Jackson Delegates, should be shot! At that time they thought it was outrageous that some members of our group were holding signs calling for Nelson Mandela to be freed. It was also the time we were holding signs “no contra aid”. Whew, a long time ago. Nice to know we were on the right side of things.
FK, sorry to hear about your cousin/niece. But, glad Mr is out of Iraq.
can anyone get ANY Air America stream anywhere? I just tried four different plaes… :fustrate:
Did anybody listen to Malloy’s show last night? Interesting story about why AAR lost its Atlanta affiliate–except for Al Franken. The “villain” was not a traditional fundamentalist or Republican fanatic. I assign all of you antisemites and self-haters to go the White Rose and catch the last 15 minutes of Malloy’s show, Start paying attention when RW from Tennessee says, “It sucks about Air Atlanta.”
Yes. I am streaming from an old link I have. I think it is from Air America Place.
I have to start listening to Malloy again.
In 1988, the Washington State Democratic Party put in planks that the Palestinians have the right to national self-determination, within the UN framework. This is a trying struggle. Lots of twists. One being that George Bush the first was better on the issue than Clinton the triangulator.
Just listen to the last 20 minutes of yesterday’s Malloy show.
The AAR stream from the Majorityreportradio web site is working .. Ms Rant is babbling on incoherently about all sort of things we can’t do a thing about this afternoon.. Ed Shultz is just Babbling. :yuck::yuck::yuck::yuck::barf:
ok I got KTLK stream. I can’t seem to get anything else right now. Ed Schultz
OKAY. Don’t listen to last night’s Malloy.
oh ok, got the Malloy archive. Seems more interesting than Schultz
patience, this is going slow. I’m not getting all the blog messages quickly, I have bad computer lag
History is What Comes Next
Mexico Splits in Half: the Election Hits the Streets
By JOHN ROSS
A full week after the most viciously contested presidential election in its modern history, a Florida-sized fraud looms over the Mexican landscape and the nation has been divided almost exactly in half along political, economic, geographical and racial lines.
Mexico has always been two lands – “Illusionary Mexico” and “Profound Mexico” is how sociologist Guillermo Bonfils described the great divide between rich and poor. But now, should it be allowed to stand, right-winger Felipe Calderon’s severely questioned 243.000 vote victory over left-wing populist Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador (AMLO) will split the country exactly in half between the industrial north and the impoverished, highly indigenous south with each winning 16 states – although the southern states won by Lopez Obrador, who also won Mexico City by a million votes, constitute 54% of the population.
Moreover, the disputed election pits an indignant Indian and mestizo underclass that believes AMLO was swindled out of the presidency by electoral fraud against a wealthy white conservative minority that controls the nation’s media, its banks, and apparently, the Federal Electoral Institute (IFE), Mexico’s maximum electoral authorities. Lopez Obrador charges the IFE and its president Luis Carlos Ugalde with orchestrating Calderon’s uncertain triumph.
At a raucous July 8th rally that put a half million supporters in Mexico City’s vast Zocalo plaza, the political heart of the nation, Lopez Obrador called upon his people to demand a complete vote by vote recount of the results. . .
Sonic Youth!
gotta love those Mexicans… :fist:
ZNet | Mainstream Media
Blaming the Victim, Gaza
by David Edwards; Media Lens ; July 10, 2006
Traditionally, British media reporting of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict has been heavily biased in favour of the United States’ major ally in the region, Israel. A 2002 Glasgow University Media Group report found that television broadcasters were six times as likely to present Israeli attacks as “retaliating” or in some way hitting back as Palestinian attacks. This caused many viewers to believe that the Palestinians were to blame for the conflict. (Greg Philo and Mike Berry, ‘Bad News from Israel’;
http://www.gla.ac.uk/departments/sociology/units/media/israel.htm)
Reporting of the June 25 capture of an Israeli soldier, Gilad Shalit, by Palestinian militants at an army post at Kerem Shalom near Gaza demonstrated the same bias. The BBC, ITV News, the Guardian, Independent and most other media described the incident as a “kidnapping”. We emailed Guardian journalist David Fickling:
“In today’s article, ‘Israel detains Hamas ministers,’ you write:
“‘Israeli troops arrested dozens of Hamas ministers and parliamentarians today as they stepped up their campaign to free a soldier kidnapped by militants in Gaza at the weekend.’ (http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,,1808570,00.html)
“Why do Israeli militants ‘detain’ and ‘arrest’, whereas Palestinian militants ‘kidnap’?” (Email, June 29, 2006)
Fickling replied:
“There is a well-attested distinction between arrest – an action carried out by a state as the first step of a well-defined legal process – and kidnap, which is an action carried out by private individuals with no defined outcome, enforceable purpose, or rights of review or release.” (Email, June 29, 2006)
In reality there is no “well-defined legal process” protecting the Hamas politicians “arrested” by the Israelis. Of what crimes have they been accused? Are we to believe that they have any rights of review or release whatever? Quite the reverse; the press reports that the subsequent bombings of empty Hamas political offices were intended as a clear signal that Hamas’s leaders can be assassinated if Israel so desires.
I think I’m up to the last 20 minutes of the show…
RW from Tennessee: “Air Atlanta situation sucks, Mike.”
:omg:
Ok, maybe not the very last yet… this is the stuff about Lieberman now…
self hating Jews. oh goodie
Air Atlanta, here it is
Randi Rhodes is Self-Hating!:rofl2:
Jerry Springer!:omg:
Yeah, I caught that… that was a great finale (I also miss him making a fool out of conservative callers)
hmm, what to listen to now…
ACLU lawsuit: U.S. block entry at border via ‘ideological exclusion’ policy
RAW STORY
Published: Wednesday July 12, 2006
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In a press release issued today, the American Civil Liberties Union charge the government with enforcing an “ideological exclusion” policy to block entry at the border, RAW STORY has found.
“The American Civil Liberties Union and the New York Civil Liberties Union today released new documents that indicate the government is broadly interpreting and using a controversial Patriot Act power known as the “ideological exclusion” provision to block people from entering the country,” the press release reads.
“The ACLU is concerned that the provision is increasingly being used to target foreign scholars and others whose politics the government disfavors,” the press release continues.
more
http://tinyurl.com/kcytr
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Hopefully they will still let us out …:barf::yuck::eek:
Who was that funkily clad co-ed at the anti-nuke protest? She bares a striking resemblance to my college days main squeeze. Amazing!
:omg::jesus::pent::sdavid:
I don’t think I knew you when I went to college, so I guess it wasn’t me…oh well
U.S. Senate votes for FEMA`s demise
replacing FEMA with the Emergency Management Authority to respond to domestic disasters, the New York Times reported.
The measure passed 87-11 Tuesday night, the newspaper said.
As with FEMA, the new agency would remain under the purview of the Department of Homeland Security.
The bill`s co-sponsors Sens. Susan Collins, R-Maine and Joseph Lieberman, D-Conn., said the agency`s performance after Hurricane Katrina last year was such a national embarrassment, there was no option but replace it with an agency that had new powers and a new name.
However, a bill under debate in the House by Rep. Don Young, R-Alaska, would keep FEMA but move it outside the Homeland Security Department, returning it to the more prominent, cabinet status it had during the Clinton administration.
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Repaint it and let it screw up again.. Like what is wrong with FEMA except B*
:barf::barf::yuck::yuck::eek::shock:
It could have been. Was your name ever
SYLVIA?JULIA?DEBORAH?um…not in this life… once a Susan Joy always a Susan Joy …
eeek. I am me!!!!!! Who are all these other bimb…er, women????
Brilliant Beautiful Sweet Sexy Artistic Hilarious Susan?Yes? You called?
Nicki + SJ. Thou shalt not summon the name of other bimbos
I forgot Lisse. Joking. Pre-SJ days. I have an excuse. My incubus was still submerged.
:bow::pent:
:rofl2::sdavid:
Randi Rhodes shrieks .. sucks.. blows.. :barf::yuck::barf::yuck::barf::yuck:
Ed Shultz is a big fat asshole.. sucks .. blows.. :barf::barf::barf::barf:
:fu::fu::fu::fu::fu::fu::fu:
Ah. You also didn’t know me yet. 😉 It’s all good. Those buttons on my vest, I still have them. David Bowie in concert, I remember that one. And the vest had a painting on the back, Led Zeppelin (that I did of course)
Callers are talking about NYC today. Inferiority complex. Randi said it best when she said that Seattle reminded her of NY with mountains (or something).. All large cities are similar; NYC is just much larger than the other cities.
I lost most of my buttons and pins. One of my favorites was from a Marx Convention.
Up until now, philosophers have only interpreted the world. The point is to Change it.”
Cities have similarities, but they’re not not like each other. I could never compare NYC with Denver or Salt Lake City. I haven’t been on the West Coast yet, so i don’t know about over there.
At least I was on the right track. I would know IT when I saw it.
Neat quote! I have a big cookie tin can of pins that I’ve had since I was a teenager. I should go through them. At one time i had a bulltein board with maybe three hundred pins on it. Rock ‘n roll, political, all kinds of stuff. Really old, a lot of them, from the 70’s even
I have not explored SLC or Denver. In aa sense, NYC is UNIQUE. (My confession: I have never been there. GET PREPARED FOR THE FIRECRACKER FIRST WEEKEND!) San Francisco is Grand. I lived in Istanbul.
Cities on the water.
you have a keen eye and heart…
I have got to go do ART. Find more photos. Did you ever see Allen Ginsberg at any of those protests?
You MUST come to NY, then. I do think it’s unique. I’ve been to many cities in the U.S. Were you really in Turkey?
I wasn’t at a lot of protests. I remember that one at the Battery Park landfill. It was a long time ago. The last one i was at was Republican Convention. I need to become more of an activist regarding protests, though I’ve been active in other ways, mostly through educating people and writing
There is a flight specifically from PDX to NYC and back. Friday arrival; Sunday departure.
Educating, writing….and…:rofl2::pent::jesus:
have a freakin staff meeting from 8 pm to 9 pm. I’m so pissed off they’re making me go back to work even for that short amount of time for this stupid crap
Istanbul’da oturdlm.
LOL, you think if you came to NY I’d ever let you LEAVE? :rofl2:
Maybe it is to give a workshop in your specialty.
(or I’d hitch a ride back with you)
well I volunteered for the NY Botanical Garden and gave many tours and talks on ecological topics, so I do think I’ve influenced people. I know I tried
I would be an economic burden if I stayed in NYC. Are there anymore cheap, coldwater flats in Manhattan–or elsewhere?
Not that specialty.
ok, so yes, I will sponsor a workshop in exactly what you’re thinking about… :pent:
I need a co-sponsor though…someone who can train me in certain areas…kind of an exchange deal…
I will be your canvas/
:rofl2:
No. Not train. You need an exhibit. Something to demonstrate on.
we’ll talk about it. I have an extra room. What do you think, I’m letting you rot in some flat far away from me?
This will be very interesting…
Did you get any mail today?
/\ ****:yinyang:
no, not today…waiting for a very special book, I know… looking forward to it.
Sleeping separately for the weekend visit! Are you kidding?
hehe. I don’t know why I said that.
Because you are into torture.
false decorum on this blog? LOLOLOLOL.
:omg: Me????
I need to do some art. I have been inactive for too long.
What blog? This is our private chatroom.
Kay, I’m going to that meeting in about twenty minutes myself. I need to do art too, but I’ll have more time for that tomorrow. (I will!)
Self-denial.
I am sending more drawings today.
I guess you’re right..private…nobody’s watching us…darn…
send me more pictures of your cute self too. Photographs.
kay I have to get going to the meeting…I’ll be back in a couple of hours :peace::pent:
Thurs. July 13: Emergency Briefing on Gaza Crisis
As a reminder, UFPJ is sponsoring an emergency briefing on the Gaza crisis this Thursday evening. We hope that someone from your group will be able to participate. Below is information on call logistics, the agenda, and groundrules for the call. Please read the groundrules before tomorrow’s call.
Thursday, July 13, 8:30 EDT, 5:30 PDT
Emergency Briefing for UFPJ Member Groups on Gaza Crisis
Dial 605-990-0200 code: 505727#
TENTATIVE AGENDA
I. 5 minutes – OPENING: review agenda and groundrules
II. 25 minutes – PANELIST PRESENTATIONS on:
– conditions on the ground in Gaza, including Israel’s targeting of civilians and civilian infrastructure in violation of international law, the context for the current crisis, the Hamas government and Israel’s objectives, etc.
– why the antiwar movement should speak out against Israel’s policies, situation with Lebanon and Syria, suggestions for immediate tactics
– how to respond to questions/arguments on the crisis and messages we should be communicating
III. 40 minutes – QUESTIONS & ANSWERS
Briefing panelists:
– Nadia Hijab – Author, human rights advocate, and Steering Committee member of US Campaign to End the Israeli Occupation http://www.endtheoccupation.org /
– Phyllis Bennis – Fellow, Institute for Policy Studies. Her newest book is Challenging Empire: How People, Governments and the UN Defy U.S. Power. http://www.ips-dc.org
– Mitchell Plitnick – Director of Education and Policy, Jewish Voice for Peace http://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org /
GROUNDRULES
1. If you are not speaking or asking to speak, please mute yourself. On many phones you can mute by pressing 6 or the mute feature. Just before it is your turn to speak, unmute yourself by pressing 6 or mute feature again.
2. Stack: When we begin the Question & Answer section, the facilitator will ask who would like to be on the stack. That’s conference call lingo for “who has a question?” Since she/he can’t see you raise your hand, please call out your name (e.g. “James, stack”). The facilitator will make a list of people who want to speak, then she/he will call off names from the list. When your name is called, it is your turn to speak. When all the people on the list (stack) have had a chance to speak, the facilitator will ask if she/he should start another stack (if there is time), and we repeat the process. The facilitator may decide to take several questions at a time before asking panelists to respond. To ensure that a range of voices are heard (race, gender, geography, organization, etc.), the facilitator will use her judgement as to whether to change the order of the stack or ask people to step back.
3. Questions: To give the widest number of people the chance to ask questions, please limit your question to 30 seconds maximum. Also, if it is your turn to ask a question, please do ask a question rather than make a comment or launch a polemic (we’ve all been in meetings where that’s happened!). The facilitator reserves the right to ask for conversations better suited for another forum to be moved to UFPJ’s discussion list.
4. Respect your facilitator: Facilitating a conference call with tens of unseen people is not an easy task. Please support your facilitator by respecting his/her judgement as to how to proceed. If the facilitator needs help and you have a suggestion as to how to proceed, please call out your name (e.g. “James, procedural suggestion”).
Additional resources are below. Talk to you Thursday!
Best,
Hany Khalil
UFPJ Organizing Coordinator
Marc writes on his blog today
Well, I hope you late night/west coast folks will post an update when Marc says what’s what, so I can read about it when I get up in the morning.
Hey everyone!
I just wanted to mention before I read back over the day, that the woody gutherie documentary is on PBS at 9PM and then after that is a Springsteen concert…doing his woody gutherie thing.
I dont knwo if I can stand to watch it…probably will be rerun…Im just so tired and feeling really sad about Marc’s show.
I hope it gets a last minute reprieve….
Any word on Sam…or is that a rumor?
Thanks Melina, have on PBS now… love Woody Guthrie (and of course Bruce)
Hey everybody Over to the Majority Report Blog. NOW!!!!!!
oh lord, what kind of trouble are you making now????
Oh., they’re talking about Marc’s show being killed, and supposedly on Democracy Now! they reported that Janeane will not be back.
Did anybody go over there?
This blog is dead, too.
Yes
seems to be a lot about Ani DiFranco right now
I have to go. Will call later. Separate beds, my ass.
:rofl2:
call later! what time so I know to be awake?
alright, never mind, I’ll sleep next to the phone!
Here’s a secret: I only have one bed
What is this extra room stuff?:rofl2:
:sdavid::pent::jesus:
did I say that? I have no idea why.
hwell I mean I do have an extra room but it’s just filled with junk and used for storage now.
I have a king sized bed
ok, youre gone, never mind, I won’t tell you what else I have
:billcat: We had some flash flooding and record rainfall & boom booms here this evening. :omg: Poor Siggy was a nervous wreck, so I played Neil Young’s Living With War album for him to drown out the boom booms — the music calmed him down some:yinyang:
Then we went downstairs to the basement so he could go out and, by golly, wasn’t it just splish splash :blech: without taking a bath down there. Just finished sucking it up and turning on the a/c and all the fans down there. :billcat: Turns out there was some record breaking rainfall here this evening & there are lots of roads closed. Oh, well. Just what we need — more stress:growl:
Hey PJ — re #66 — those “scientists” are FOS:blech: — they blame everything on genes or women, so :fu: them.
So, #68 FK — not bloody likely!!:tongue:
And, FK, so glad that Mr. FK is out of the sandbox, but so sorry about cousin/niece. Two of my daughters and I have all had some pretty unpleasant asthma episodes in past years and not being able to breathe is a horrible feeling:omg:. I do know people who ended up on ventilators for a short time so they wouldn’t suffocate — I don’t know which is worse :cry:. Anyway, it is really a very complicated condition and it is always sad when someone dies of it. So, condolences to you & Mr. FK and prayers for your cousin/niece who must be in a better place in the spirit world :priest::rabbi::sdavid::om::pent::cres::yinyang:
Nicki — The Israelis are :fu: CRAZY :billcat: — I swear they have all been posessed by the spirits of dead Nazis. What they have done to the Palestinians over the past 50 odd years is worse, in a way, than what the Nazis did to the Jews. :growl::rant1: What the hell is the matter with them :rabbi: (I was married to a nice Jewish boy from Brooklyn for 14 years — neither he or his family were nuts :doh: like the Israelis and they felt no connection to them).
Hey, Susan — I didn’t realize you were in NYC:tongue: — whereabouts? I grew up in Woodhaven (Queens) & lived in Kew Gardens for several years before moving to Long Island & leaving the area altogether in 1980 (just after John Lennon was shot :cry:).
OK, over and out. :sammy:
:fist:Viva la Revolucion!:fist: :jason:
Hi RG!:knit:
Good luck with the rain- I was in salem OR today where it rained for the first time in over 100 years on July 12- someone said..
FarmerKat…I am thinking of you. 🙁
Hey, Susan — I didn’t realize you were in NYC :tongue: — whereabouts? I grew up in Woodhaven (Queens) & lived in Kew Gardens for several years before moving to Long Island & leaving the area altogether in 1980 (just after John Lennon was shot 😥
Hey RG – Right now I’m in Westchester about 20 miles from the city, but spent most of life (and grew up in )the Bronx, and went to college in Manhattan. Of course I know Queens and LI pretty well. The city has changed a lot since 1980. Positive side: less crime. Negative side: most of the mom and pop businesses and quaint little store that gave the city character are gone.I can’t discuss Greenwhich Village without getting all choked up and sad.
Really weird weather here today. A tornado touched down in a town a few miles north of me.
Hi, SBF!
:tinfoil:what global warming???:tinfoil:
Sounds like it rarely rains in Salem, OR in July. Hope it helped some flowers grow:love:
Things will dry out & Siggy won’t have to swim in the basement for fun until PJ gets home:roll: I hope to take Siggy to the park in the next day or so so that he can run & swim & have some fun. :knit:I haven’t been a whole lot of fun for him since PJ has been gone because I just can’t be here all the time. Alas, PJ is not independently wealthy, so I have to put time in at the Salt Mines :billcat: so that Siggy & the kitties can eat! 🙁
Hey RG have you switched to the world’s best kitty litter (corn) yet?:banana::banana::billcat::billcat:
Is Marc leaving?? I just got home, to find a phone message telling me that it’s been announced, last show tonight or tomorrow night. I did something I haven’t done in weeks, turned on the ktlk stream. Jim Earle is riffing on anger at aar. Wtf?? It’s true? Hmm, now Marc’s talking about ‘getting some resolution’…:(
Aw crap, noone’s here except me. :fustrate: Anyone stopping back in?
Israel’s had nukes for years, all (just caught sight of 82. Mordecahi Vanunu was kidnapped by Mossad and jailed in Israel for 21 years for telling the British press about Israel’s nukes. Released last April, under house arrest, there’s an international campaign to let him emigrate to the U.S., where a couple in the midwest has officially adopted him. He converted to Christianity, so now he’s reviled by most Israeli’s as both a traitor to the state and to the tribe. I hope he makes is to the states. :fu: Israel
Please show up, somone, anyone :joe:
Vanunu actually was released the April before last, not just a couple months ago.
Hmmm, maybe I should check at Marc’s blog. Duh.:smack:
Marc gave us the low down on his situation right out of the gate tonight. He said DG fired him because he didn’t like him. That they wanted him to come back to NY to do the morning show. He said he would if they gave him a certain amount of money. They wouldn’t. They also wouldn’t syndicate the show but they are giving him the money left on his contract. He did a little bit of blogging tonight.
Sean, Marc mentioned you in the last few minutes of the show tonight. He said he has to get the number to call in to the show Friday for SeanieSean, “he’s a blogger who is a little nuts and also a truck driver.” He said it with :love: in his voice.
Night folks. Our relationship with Marc and Jim will change forever after Friday. 😉
LOVE
I love all you folks. This was a hard, fucked-up. decision to make and I feel okay about it. I’m a little scared but screw it. I’ll just try to find my way into something that works for me. I know radio does but I just have to find the right fit again. TMMS amd MS were great. Proud of ’em.
Crashing. Talk to you tomorrow.
Submitted by marc maron on July 13, 2006 – 1:24am. | reply | email this comment
Greetings All. I am just wurk’n:tongue: and lurk’n around:hubba: and :fustrate: and 🙁 on Marc’s decision. (I am overabusing emos again :billcat::rofl2: Farmerkat:eek::banana:)
Safe travels for Farmerkat and Mr. Farmerkat :pent::knit::om::gate::banana::peace::love:
You can suscribe to cnickthomas podcast through his site. he has the first part of last nights show up.:40: