A bit soggy up this way today, as we’re getting what’s left of Ernesto. Later on tonight, we get to see if the SU football team is gonna suck as bad this year as they did last year (the worst team in my lifetime, and I go back to some pretty shitty teams, indeed). Hopefully you’re high and dry (well, high, at least) whereever you’re at.
http://www.catholicboy.com/catholicboy.com-asp//railsongs.asp
Go here and download the song “Differing touch”.
Jim Carroll! I know that band
ok, I see that’s just Jim Carroll’s website. Anyway I need another application to open this file that I don’t have
Get a hold of a “Differing Touch” download. Have you heard that riff before?
I downloaded it. But I need the current version of Real player which I’m getting now. I think it sounds familiar, but I’m not sure
Synchronicity is a word coined by the Swiss psychologist Carl Jung to describe the “temporally coincident occurrences of acausal events.” Jung spoke of synchronicity as an “acausal connecting principle” (i.e. a pattern of connection that cannot be explained by direct causality). Plainly put, it is the experience of having two (or more) things happen coincidentally in a manner that is meaningful to the person or persons experiencing them, where that meaning suggests an underlying pattern. It differs from coincidence in that synchronicity implies not just a happenstance, but an underlying pattern or dynamic that is being expressed through meaningful relationships or events. It was a principle that Jung felt encompassed his concepts of archetypes and the collective unconscious, in that it was descriptive of a governing dynamic that underlay the whole of human experience and history — social, emotional, psychological, and spiritual. Jung believed that many experiences perceived as coincidence were due not merely to chance, but instead, suggested the manifestation of parallel events or circumstances reflecting this governing dynamic1.
“People who died” is a great song 🙂
In the late 1990s, several Philly bands recorded a tribute to Jim Carroll album. Marah recorded “Differing Touch”.
Da da da. Da da da. DA da da dada da da da.
The Pink Lady played that song on her show this week. I think I will call in to request she play “Differing Touch” on her next show.
right. synchronicity. Indications of underlying pattern of connection. Not merely “coincidence”
ok, I should be able to hear it in a minute or so
Criticism
Since the theory of synchronicity is not testable according to the classical scientific method, it is not widely regarded as scientific at all, but rather as pseudoscientific or an example of magical thinking. However, it is doubtful that Jung would have considered the theory to be scientifically testable.
Probability theory can attempt to explain events such as the plum pudding incident in our normal world, without any interference by any universal alignment forces. However, the correct variables required for actually computing the probability cannot be found. This is not to say that synchronicity is not a good model for describing a certain kind of human experience, but, according to the scientific method, it is a reason for the refusal of the idea that synchronicity should be considered a “hard fact”, i.e., an actually existing principle of our universe.
Supporters of the theory claim that since the scientific method is applicable only to those phenomena that are reproducible, independent of observer and quantifiable, the argument that synchronicity is not scientifically ‘provable’ should be considered a red herring, as, by definition, synchronistic events are not independent of the observer, since the observer’s unique history is precisely what gives the synchronistic event meaning for the observer.
A synchronistic event appears like just another meaningless ‘random’ event to anyone else without the unique prior history which correlates to the event. This reasoning claims that the principle of synchronicity raises the question of the subjectivity of significance and meaning in the sequence of natural events.
not everything works with scientific method… doesn’t mean it doesn’t work. Just bypasses that particular way of analyzing an event
In the 1983 release Synchronicity by The Police (A&M Records), bassist Sting is reading a copy of Jung’s Synchronicity on the front cover along with a negative/superimposed image of the actual text of the synchronicity hypothesis. A photo on the back cover also shows a close-up but mirrored and upside-down image of the book. There are two songs titled “Synchronicity I” and “Synchronicity II” included in the album. The latter song cleverly contrasts the dangerous breakdown of a desperate family man with the simultaneous emergence of a menacing creature from the bottom of Loch Ness.
Who cares if synchronicity cannot be scientifically reproduced; I am going to mine its potential for the next zine.
yeah, that album was how I was actually introduced to the word 🙂
go for it 😉
The Dark Side of the Rainbow is a perceived effect created by playing the 1973 Pink Floyd concept album Dark Side of the Moon simultaneously with the 1939 film The Wizard of Oz and watching for moments where the film and the album appear to correspond with each other. The title of the music video-like experience comes from a combination of the album title and the film’s song “Over the Rainbow.”
‘I’M FROM NEW JERSEY and I’m proud about it,Camden is my home.I’m from Camden and I brag about it, no matter where I roam. All of the other towns throughout the nation may mean a lot to some;
But Camden suits me brother much more than any other, I’m glad that’s where I’m from.
:omg::nixon::rofl2:
I heard about that!
hehe…”I don’t like cities, but I love New York. Other cities make me feel like a Dork”
Compare the sneers by the Lolipop Kids with that from “Electric Warrior”.
“I’m an Electric Warrior.”:wink:
actually we need some signs or visuals from Camden to prove you know who is there
Start teasing them out. I have a whole lot of stuff to process now.
even an expedition into New Jersey, to find traces …
:rofl2:
whoa
; All Night Budget Talks In New Jersey …
ha
View All Chickie’s Groups … Lexington Down ( la playa de New Jersey ) …
www1.myspace.com/katmarch – 113k – Supplemental Result – Cached – Similar pages
weird. When I google the “he is the guy who does the….” phrase, I get this Myspace website of this person named Derek, but there is nothing about that on his website…
I believe Sam posts as Seder and also majority on the MR blog
you know google can drive a person insane, right? Kind of like playing video games for too many hours….
My theory on the Malloy firing is that they did plan to offer him a contract but a BIG money donor heard Malloy subbing for Randi, got pissed at what he was saying, called management and threatened to pull the plug on the MONEY unless they fired Malloy. AAR didn’t have the guts to tell him and the rest is history.
:sammy:
:nixon:
LOL I just found that one myself
Could be. Malloy thinks that it was economically driven. One of the investors was not happy with his return on investment. Less costly to get a sponsored show like Radio Nation.
Air Aipac Radio :omg:
Badly xeroxed? :fu:
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some people call xerox copies “bad” automatically, don’t forget that. It might not have been so bad
:nixon:
I also love how you mentioned Portland, OR in the season finale. … I thought the last episode was great, especially how Nicki rose to the occassion. …
of the answers that Portland cultish following of this character …
:rofl2:
:rofl2::pent:
hehe, I saw some porn with the phrase “rose” used as a verb…
I received an unmarked envelope in the mail which contained the :rofl2:
😉 indeed
Sooz moves her foot out of Nicki’s way>. Louise: Will you sign my letter against the illegal
hehe
LOL I love how when I google “Suzie” and “NR” my own website comes up :nod:
Name: Nicki Rose. Category: WHERE ARE YOU? Views: 7 …
:omg:
http://www.andrenickatina.com/catalogpages/longsleevedshrt.html
“Nicky” with a y
:rofl2:
… COME OUT AND PLAY – AY ”
I love that, Nicki and then Marky Mark :omg:
Baton Rouge person. First time I ever met her.
I like that one.
“Hey Nicki, you’re so fine, you’re so fine you blow my mind, hey Nicki!”
:nixon:
Y .
Well his mama always said he would never amount to nothin’
now she wants a loan
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this guy is a perfect example of the “long-haired” New Jersey look that makes people think NR is from NJ – http://www.myspace.com/devyn410
I collected an immense amout of stuff. I must CRASHHHHHHHH!
:omg:
I’ll see you later then.:!: Good for you!
Now she wants a loan (or a gift). Say, “No. Welcome to the real world of financial management.” Katie has money burning a hole in her pocket. …
www.
:bow::pent:
:jesus:
Morning! :joe:
don’t think anyone posted this op-ed by Soros.
crazy saturday already. later. :billcat:
KK => cheesy shrimp hors d’oeuvres? did you make them? How’s your new house? I was JUST wondering where you were these days!
Hey, I was reading through last night’s comments, and (at the risk of sounding like a commercial) for those of you who can’t get 1600AM, or who otherwise want to be able to listen to live streams off the Internet w/o being tied to your computer, or even just use your mp3 player w/o the headphones or exernal speakers, you might want to look into this FM transmitter from CCrane:
It will run off of the included AC adapter, or you can use 2 AA batteries. It plugs into your line out (or headphone jack), and allows you to transmit the signal to any FM frequency. So, you can listen to your computer or mp3 player or satellite radio receiver (or whatever) on any FM radio w/in range. The range I get on mine is about 50 – 100 yards (depending on unit placement), so I can listen from out in the backyard. Because it’s small and light, it works well in the car too (much better than those plug in the cigarette lighter ones, and it’s good on any frequency between 87 MHz and 107.5 MHz). There’s a “secret” power adjustment which you can access by prying off a little access panel on the back that will boost the range.
It isn’t cheap – about $70 from CCrane w/ free shipping. I don’t know if you can it cheaper from anyplace else or not.
Oh, and for the AAR live stream, here’s the link I use (I’m gonna break it up so it wraps, but you can right-click or command click and select ‘copy link location’ or whatever equivalent your web browser has):
http://play.rbn.com/?url=airam/airam/live/live.rm
&proto=rtsp&end=6000:00
Notice the “end=” part? That keeps the stream from timing out for 6000 minutes – or 100 hours. I generally find that to be sufficient. Also, this will get you the ‘real’ stream – for which I recommend you get Real Alternative so you don’t have to use RealPlayer.
After AAR left Sirius, I also bought a super-duper (expensive) AM antenna in hopes of picking up WLIB (which I can pick up from here in the evenings, but not real well) or the stations in Ithaca and/or Rochester. I can get LIB with it during the day, but not very well, and of course I’m tied to whatever radio I try and use it with. I tried mounting it outside, but it didn’t really help all that much. It sits in my drawer, unused (yet another bad investment on my part).
If you’re gonna get a Wireless Access Point, I would hold off on messing with the MIMO ones (802.11n) for the time being. Right now, there is no standard for 802.11n, and anything you get is gonna be proprietary, and may or may not be firmware upgradable to the standard when it comes out. The 802.11b/g ones are dirt cheap these days, and are plenty good for Internet browsing and audio. Medium or better quality video streaming (such as the MPEG-2 stuff that my ReplayTV uses) might not be so hot, but otherwise you should be good to go for quite some time.
:banana::banana::banana::banana:
Good whatever :sheep: le
I get three days off :banana::banana::banana::banana:
but
It looks like its going to snow
FK, thanks for that link to the George Soros op-ed. Doesn’t sound like he is an unconditional supporter of Israeli actions or that he would pull the plug on Malloy.
Interesting, PJ…thanks for the info. I’ll definitely keep it in mind.
yay Fred has a three day weekend! Me too actually. I was going to work a few hours today but the kid I tutor cancelled. I’m thrilled. Instead of snow we have the nasty remnants of Ernesto causing all kinds of havoc here. So glad I get to stay home 😛
Well my weather forecast was a little premature .. The high today is supposed to be around 70 so no snow today….:bow:’
The clouds are all down well over the far foothills..and it was like 37 at 6 am:eek:
From the comments Malloy made on the Christine Kraft show it didn’t sound like Malloy would be unemployed for very long.. :bow:
As long as these blossoming liberal talk stations have streaming one will just have to be connected to the Internet all day long.. Petition for WIFI everywhere. :fist:
British police arrest 16 in anti-terrorism raids
Separate operations in London, Manchester not linked to aircraft bomb plot
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Fourteen of the men were held in London in an operation that a police source said focused on suspected “training, recruitment and encouraging others to take part in terrorist activity”.
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The BBC said the probe may be linked to alleged “training camps” in Britain, saying there had been reports of militants getting together for adventure training as a means to develop closer ties.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14631772/
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Ahhh… the thought police hard at work…
I wonder if the FBI is watching all these paramilitary groups all over the US or only pissed off people on the left or only pissed off Muslims.. ehhh….probably none of the above just democrats running for office at the moment.:eek::paranoid:
Rumsfeld Reaches Out to Democrats
In Letter, Secretary Says Recent Speech Was Misconstrued
By Anne Plummer Flaherty
Associated Press
Saturday, September 2, 2006; Page A12
Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld reached out to Democrats yesterday, opening the door for them to retract their stinging indictment of him as Pentagon chief.
In a letter to Congress’s top Democrats, Rumsfeld said remarks he made Tuesday during a speech in Salt Lake City were misrepresented by the news media. Rumsfeld said he was “concerned” by the reaction of Democrats, many of whom called for his resignation and said he was treading on dangerous territory.
http://tinyurl.com/fowz2
re: 73. I’m sure the FBI is ONLY watching Lefties
But, I wonder if the Brits are getting worried that they’re a nation that harbors terrorists and the US may decide to bomb London.
Terror police ‘monitor thousands’
Peter Clarke has overseen the airline bomb plot inquiry
Police in the UK are keeping watch on “thousands of people” who may be involved in terrorism, Scotland Yard’s head of counter-terrorism says.
Peter Clarke told a BBC Two documentary Al-Qaeda: Time To Talk? that his officers had to be focused on a “whole range of people”.
“Not just terrorists not just attackers but the people who might be tempted to support or encourage,” he said.
He recently described the intelligence picture in the UK as “very disturbing”.
http://tinyurl.com/l72aj
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Britian must be the training ground for the though police.. it is amazing their press is as open as it is.. :eek::eek::eek::eek::crap::paranoid:
That’s where the Mexican Americans have one up on the Anglo’s .. Its probably much harder to put a sting operation in a group of people who generally know each other and who speak a different language. :omg::paranoid:
As long as the British thought police appear to be on the job the SBR will probably not bomb them but just wait until something happens in the SBR and terraists from Britain are involved.. but.. Britain also has nuclear weapons. That means they will have to conduct air strikes on themselves. :eek::eek:
Nothing like dropping one of those daisy cutters on the Muslim enclaves six blocks from the Parliament building to fix things up..:eek::fustrate::paranoid:
If they are smart they will hide in the rich peoples neighborhoods.
Zoo plans big renovation for return of Little Joe
(By Jenna Russell, Globe Staff)
Three years after the gorilla known as Little Joe broke out of the Franklin Park Zoo and mauled a 2-year-old girl, the facility announced plans yesterday for a glass-walled cage that will let him see his public again — but prevent another escape.
http://tinyurl.com/gpk3r
Its nice to see the people in Boston allow child molesters to be seen. I wonder if the ape has to register with the city before they let him out again..:rant1:
Creature From Black Monday . . . Alive
http://tinyurl.com/k5a4k
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Speaking of big monkeys.. :eek::eek:
Well, he had the backing of the Archdiocese.
Hurricane John is causing havoc in the resorts along the west coast of Mexico stranding thousands of vacationers. Power and the Internet has been cut off.
All the the thugs are probably becoming paranoid and will soon riot if they can’t access the WSJ online and get to their portfolio accounts. :eek::eek::eek:
There’s a “secret” power adjustment which you can access by prying off a little access panel on the back that will boost the range.
I’ve got a CanaKit transmitter that boosts the range of my XM transmitter. That Crane deal looks really nice for just a bit more money.
I agree that all those little transmitters meant for the car that plug into the cigarette lighter work like crap.
SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) — Intel Corp. reportedly will unveil plans to cut as many as 20,000 jobs as early as next week as part of a previously-announced restructuring plan aimed at reviving the world’s biggest maker of computer chips.
A report on the News.com Web site of Cnet Networks Inc., citing sources familiar with Intel’s plans, said the company will announce it is cutting 10,000 jobs after the close of market Tuesday.
The Wall Street Journal, citing former Intel employees and analysts, said the job cuts will range between 10,000 and 20,000 and that Intel plans to announce them internally next week
http://tinyurl.com/klg7r
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but.. but…but… the economy is booming right .. not a problem getting another job right….
This news was buzzing around Boulder, and Fort Collins last Thursday.. Intel employees about 5000 people between the two places and another 2000 in Colorado Springs. :tinfoil:Following these layoffs the unemployment rate will continue to drop too.:eek:
And the congress will delare… but… but… we need more scientists and engineers. :rant1:
Morning all!:banana::tongue:
Predicted high of 89 today in Seattle :hot:
So much work to do…:smack:
This a link to the streaming audio page from the AAR affiliate in Asheville. The morning talk show host is talking a lot about the r word.
One will have to see if he is around next weekend.
This is a Windoz media stream.
http://tinyurl.com/jzlan
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:omg::omg::eek::eek::eek::eek:
random thoughts:
I can not imagine snow. 78 in the shade and 74% humidity here. they just picked up the tractor – stuck brake and two lug nuts on the wheel are sheered off – what the heck did mr fk DO before he left?? the donkey’s eyes are getting irritated by the tall grass so need to bush-hog out there. Need a working tractor to do it, though.
isi, yep, that was my thought, too.
you technies keep me, a :tinfoil: {read dunce cap} in the know. gracias.
fred, I meant to tell you the link to the hispanic group forming to take care of people’s needs was really interesting. I’ve been wondering when something like that would kick in here for the poor in this country. Hezbollah is popular for a reason and it ain’t their militant practices, I’d wager.
Where is Seanie this weekend? Wasn’t he going to a Carolina?
thought of a college entrance essay the teen could write:
Overcoming challenge: How I became educated going to a Georgia public school.
The governor here (a rethug) is bragging we ranked 46th on the sat. Can you freaking believe it? :doh:
The Georgia governor was probably happy the SAT scores were not below the scores in lets say .. err.. um….Chili .. no wait ..err.. um Brazil,.. no wait ..how about Afghanistan after all they have at least , well maybe one… SBR like school.. :eek::eek::crap::rant1:
Ah Jim Carroll…one of my favorite poets from the olden days. And interestingly: Ex husband of Rosemary Carroll, music industry lawyer (to Don Imus, BTW) and current wife of Danny Goldfuck……
But good old Jim got away…and he lived, which surprised alot of us who were around back then……But he is an excellent poet….and his first record was worn out by my little record player in the village…heh….
Nicki, if you search on youtube, I think there are a few cool old clips up there…a little lofi, but cool nonetheless….
I havent been on Catholic Boy in quite a while. Thanks for reminding me.
Perdue is an idiot. the only thing nice I can say about him is he’s a Veterinarian by profession.
IN THREE YEARS, he cut Georgia’s education budget by $1.2 BILLION dollars. He should be tarred and feathered for that. I think they still do that here.
Kat- Im catching up on my Rescue me watching and just last night saw the one where Leary goes into the bar to drink again (I know I must be very behind)…What a great, great performance!
I got a call last night from an old frined who I used ot be in the film biz with (and who conincidentally moved to this town with his wife and had a boy the same age as mine….so that worked out…) anyway, he was calling to tell me that he had been doing VTR on a show a couple of weeks ago …….he goes “uh, this HORRIBLE SHOW…horrible!! It was the final episode of the season…its Rescue Me with that guy Dennis Leary!”…to which, well you canimagine what I said and he backpeddaled to that he never could get into it after a few episodes of season 1…which was tough with all the ghosts of 911 following Leary round and all. He had so many ghosts in his truck with him sometimes that it was almost silly….So, it turned out that he was calling to tell me that this director who we worked with for 3 or 4 years straight doing food commrcials like Red LObster and such, had died suddenly of stomach cancer…got sick on set and was taken to the Dr and died 2 days later in the hospital!!…..But, tragic as that is, the guy had eally lived his life to the fullest; was a foodie, had a benz, place in MOntauk, adoped orphans from all over the world, huge sailboat at the 79th st boat basin etc….so whatever….never deinied himself or his family anything….
BUT, of course, I wanted to poop on the set…which isnt all that exciting, except to say that Leary is so incredbly skinny that its scary, and I wouldnt let him tell me the plot because I dont want to know…..(and I sent for the season 2 DVDs but now have to lend em all to one friend then this friend…and PJ has to get on it too!!….You should be able to get them from your library PJ, or just rent em 1 by 1 from the local video store…just seems more woth it to own em, IMO….but then everybody borrows em….)
And other assorted gossip that wont mean much here besides the suddenness of death and how you live your life…whatever….
Which may also be a bit of what Rescue me is about too…..
NOw, Mom wants to watch it too….
Kat- I think that one of the real serious movements by the republicans in this country has been to drain the educational system because a stupid population wont complain or know their rights.
Used to be that we wanted ot be the best and brightest….now its like a huge battle to pull tax cuts from the rich and stop cuts to the schools….and we live in oneof the richest areas of the country, second to maybe palm beach or some such….
Gas has finally gone down to 2.99 at the one citgo over by the bird store…up here its still 3.49….but thats a drop!
Oh my god…things are bad in Iraq…how is Mr holding up?
Im watching him on MSNBC talking about the horrible horrible stuff going on …Oh mygod…bound hands, executed, things worse, new form of justice and order…he looks good though…how can he stand this?. Got a hair trim from what I can see. Does he get PTSD from all this or can he keep himself removed in that its his job to deliver this information?… he is like a surgeon living on the edge of disaster….he is a brave guy…they all are out there. Are they calling him the Baghdad Bureau Chief yet?
mr fk just told me last night that we (that includes you, Melina!) got the “pilgrims” (the security ex-sas guys from the uk who keep my husband alive :love: ) hooked on Rescue Me. It’s evidently being built up in the UK where they are going to just start the first season so the pilgrims feel ahead of the curve. mike said he and they can really identify with what goes on in the show – dealing with trauma and shit all day. so maybe your friend’s life is too easy which is why he doesn’t like the show!!!
I’m in a bit of trouble, though, I forgot to include the third disk of the First Season. I think I’ll drive it up along with Season II to the atlanta bureau and have them fed-ex it over there. while I’m at it I’ll send a few boxes of emergen-C as they’re out of it and it helps keep sun stroke at bay.
haven’t spoken with him today yet, which isn’t such a good thing – means he’s busy. he’s had to go to camp victory the last couple of days which is no easy task.
yes, it is an issue.
funny you ask that, melina. i reminded him that his contract does not talk about living in a war zone. living & working are two different things, right? 🙄
Wayne Alturd ( Colorado’s beloved senator :barf:) is also a veterinarian..is it possible to catch Mad Cow disease from their patients. ??:yuck::eek::rant1:
you may have something there, Fred. 💡
:billcat: Sure looked like two B 2 bombers just flew over my house. Flying slow and fairly low. I know they are based outside Kansas City about 225 miles to the west of St. Louis. They were flying west.
I hope I’m confused and that isn’t what I saw.
uuuuh .. The temperature seems to be going down toward 40 rather than up toward 70.. :eek::eek::eek:
This time of year it is fun to watch for the struggling 38 foot RV from some place in the east going up I70 toward the Eisenhower tunnel and noting as soon as it is passed by the three state snow plows it turn off at the next exit and heads back toward Denver. :omg::paranoid:
They say that Frontier airlines flies by the use of FRT ( normal is IFR and VFR which stands for Instrument Flight Rules and Visual Flight Rules) with the threat of layoffs at the FAA maybe the airfarce is having to fly by FRT too. (FRT means Follow the Railroad Tracks)
That technique works really well unless you fly between Denver and Salt Lake City.,. The railroad goes through the 6 mile long Moffit tunnel.. All the pilot gets is his automated alarm saying… pull up… pull up…pull up,…
Don’t you feel safer now.. :eek::eek::eek::paranoid:
Kat- if anyone is techie enough over there (ha!) they can probably find the shows on Bit Torrent….but in this case, I tape it in my old fashioned way just to watch and then I buy the boxed sets because I want to have the extra material and pictures…..
PJ is next in the Rescue Me droid squad….
Its the first season thats been hard for alot of people I know to get past (I had that experience with Huff too…and now for some reason I like it alot, though its very strange)
All those dead people…and if you dont get evey show (like MOm flips by it once in a while and looks at 15 minutes then changes the channel…) you have to do the work of the first season and somewhere in there, youre hooked. Also, I forget that it was almost 3 years ago which was very close to 911….it was pretty brave of Leary to address all of this stuff first…and a little controversial at the time, I recall, because people didnt want to see firemen protrayed as alcoholics and in pain…But hell, its not just the ghosts of 911 that stay with Tommy; its all the victims hes lost.
As new Yorker with people who were in the building and the neighborhood, and with the anniversary approaching, I have to wonder still why that particular bloody episode is the worst thing ever in history, and why those people are worth more historically and to the world (or our country at least) than anyone else who has died in all the wars, attacks and tragedies all over the place?…certainly not important enough for us to actually go and capture the boss of who did this!
Boy, its windy here…really storny. Im waiting for a tree to fall on my house…Ive been a little too lucky this year…and for some reason the basement didnt flood, which must mean that there is some back up waiting to wash the whole house away.
The land is always trying to take this place back…reaching out with vines and roots and worms in all corners of mud flowing down from the woods, and if you dont keep uncovering it, the woods actually pull it back and down…..
Suz, if youre out there, I met a couple of Noble MacCaws…they are mini macs,….just babies and so sweet. They are the color of green sepia…even around their eyes….and they are really nice birds. Maybe a little big for me (I always look at the poop to see if I could stand it, but its hard to tell with the formula fed babies.)…but stil in the nursery, so I will go and spend some time with them and see what theyre like.
Ok, I have to navigate the wind and debris to fish out the Times. How come they insist on their owm box and then when I iinstall it they still throw the paper in a puddle?
Will lost a molar last night….it was a surprise and he was sure he was losing a grown up tooth and gonna die….tooth fairy gave $20 for this one. It kept him up all night…me too….
Mr FarmerKat for Baghdad Bureau Chief!!!!
If he has to be there anyway (dont the get a pay bump for that?)…..who else are they gonna get to go over there?…and Bush insists that we will be there for 2 more years at least….Oh God! Is there a light at the end of this tunnell for Mr FK?
We should send Dennis Leary over there to entertain the troops (and the presscorps)….he is damned good.
aww Melina, I just googled Noble Macaw, how cute… I think I saw those at Bird Jungle (local exotic bird store) at some point. I can stay in that store for hours and always come close to buying another bird but always come back to my senses. Hope your trees survive the wind, it’s pretty bad here also.
PJ-thanks for the info….do you think that an antenna would work on my bedside radio? Like someting from radio shack?
I added a stereo wire antenna and it never worked for LIB.
Im interested in the wirelss streaming radios that ae popping up on the geek websites…but they are still $300….
In that light, if one could get that little thingy above for $60-70 it might be worth it…..how does it attach in the car? I have an aux input for the ipod…I special ordered it because I was so damned tired of all that attempt to get a signal on and unused FM station…is that what that thing is?
We need to invite all those San Diego liberals calling into KLSD his morning about AAR firing Malloy to join our blog lots of R in the air..:fist::fist:
Hey everyone, I’m offline again because Cox cable installers are fuckin MORONS! 😡 And they say they can’t get anyone out to fix it til Tuesday. Now I don’t want to give my money to them and am considering other options. I am thinking of using Qwest, anyone have any suggestions as to ways i can get online? I looked into Tempe wireless, WAZ I think. I must be just out of range and I would need to have a signal booster installed and they can’t get out til the 18th!
It doesn’t really attach to the car – it attaches to your device (mp3 player, computer, whatever), and then you set it to a clear FM frequency, and tune it in on the radio. Since you have an input for the mp3 player already, it wouldn’t do you much good in the car, but in the house you could hook it up to your computer, get a stream going, and listen on an FM radio in the house (or your car, assuming you wanted to sit in your driveway). It would probably come in quite well over in the studio, too (I get about a half-block radius with mine – again, depending on placement).
An AM antenna might help where you’re at (radio is funny stuff, and there are so many things that can affect it). If you’re adventurous, you might wanna buy a roll of wire, and make your own. An AM loop antenna is pretty easy to make, and would be a fun rainy-day, mother and son bonding experience. 😉 Here’s plan you could try. You could even just run a really long hunk of wire out to the woods. Or you can try a chunk of ferrite with wire wrapped around it. Then you can just position the chunk on top of the radio, and see how it does. Here’s another page with more info on AM antennas, including some other designs.
Hey there, KP. Any other folks in your neighborhood with WiFi? A USB WiFi adapter and a long USB extension cable can pick up all kinds of stuff. Especially if you use a parabolic piece of metal to increase the gain of the antenna. Think wok, or metal dish. Even a mesh will work, as long as the holes aren’t too big. I made one with a 12″ bamboo skimmer that works great. Here’s a place to get some ideas. Also here and here, too. Unfortunately, the USB adapter will set you back a few bucks – probably in the $30 – $50 range. Also, picking up your neighbor’s WiFi signal may not be exactly legal (though, if you’re not doing any harm and not actively trying to hack anything, I don’t see the problem).
Yeah, when we went to NYC for the origami convention one of the kids I brought had a usb wifi amplifier…it picked up the internet just enough during the day to collect this and that. You would thik that FIT would be wifi, but whatever…they had a computer room anyway….
Oh yeah…Ill head right out and buy a piece ofr ferrite….and if I can get Will’s attention from the video game he is attached to we’ll….nevermind:rofl2::rofl2:
I think IM a little late for bonding beyond sammy the StemCell and Bill Mahr….
Well, first by a nice chunk of ferrite (aka, iron). Then whack him over the head with it, and wrap his hands and feet securely with duct tape. After that, bond at your leisure
Dont forget the duct tape on the mouth because his complaining muscles is very developed these days….
Or, liberally reapply the ferrite as needed.
re #104 – NOOOOOO we want less of that in our lives. :gate:
Isi, hope you didn’t see the beginning of something….?
My iTrip is a pain in the arse looking for an unused FM station. Once I find it, I drive about 5 miles and *poof* it’s gone. very frustrating.
I heard the beginnnig of Workin It and I SWEAR when she did her labor news, it was Maron’s Short Order News music. Did I hear right? :rant1: Maron’s stuff should be proprietary, the bastards.
Melina, when you’re done with the ferrite and duck tape, pass it on over here, would you please?
little fuck just went down to check the mail to see if his videogame book came and came back without the paper….he said it was too heavy!! Its a freakin holiday paper! ARGH!!
oh, he’s writing a script for tonight’s show, btw. don’t think it will be anything earth shattering and he sounds exhausted. They’re having major problems with rotating staff – the transit/entrance in to the country is a nightmare at the moment.
Hey PJ, thanks for that. I’ll try it! I can’t be more than a couple of neighborhood blocks away from the signal.
the tooth fairy is gonna make her money disappear…poof!
So, does it follow that bigger is better when looking for a dish to make an antennae? I was thinking of maybe using a saucer sled.
the fairy giveth and the fairy can taketh!
my teen just got back from his day at community service – trash detail. he’s subdued and whipped and actually seems humbled. I don’t think he’s going to speed again anytime soon. gotta keep these teens alive.
he’s starving…….
Well, yeah, bigger is better, but I don’t think it’s directly proportional – the increase in gain drops down. The key is to be able to find the focal point for optimum placement of the antenna itself. Also, coming up with a stable mounting system (chopsticks and duct tape, for example). Also, if you’re going to have it outside, something like a cheapo colander is nice, because it will allow the wind to blow through it. But a saucer should work. I spent a day walking around the house with my pda and woks, bowls, dog food dishes, colanders, strainers – you name it, to see what worked (my wife thought I was nuts. Then again, she thought I was nuts anyway). They all got better gain than the expensive ones you can buy.
Is the focal point dead center? I guess i could get out all my math notes from engineering school to figure it out mathematically.
The focal point (or focus) would be the distance measured from the center of the dish out. The formula is:
f = D2 / 16d (where f – focal point, D = diameter of your dish, and d = the depth of the dish (rim to lowest point).
Here’s a page that should help.
Okay, well I gotta go to the thrift store to find a dish. Maybe I’ll get back online this weekend!
Perfect! Thanks PJ!
Mexico City- Lawmakers loyal to a leftist who claims he won Mexico’s presidential election disrupted the national parliament’s opening session Friday, forcing its suspension. Members of Andres Lopez Obrador’s Party of Democratic Revolution (PRD) occupied the
speaker’s podium, waved Mexican flags and shouted “Obrador, Obrador” as they prevented outgoing President Vicente Fox from giving his farewell speech to a joint session of both houses.
Lopez Obrador claims he was robbed of victory in July 2 presidential elections after official counts showed him losing to conservative Felipe Calderon by less than one percentage point.
During Friday’s tumult, PRD lawmakers accused Fox of treason and took up Lopez Obrador’s calls for a recount of the nationwide presidential voting.
http://tinyurl.com/h79ce
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Rival party polititians with balls what a novel idea.:omg::eek::yuck::paranoid:
Im watching him on MSNBC talking about the horrible horrible stuff going on
Yeah, I happened to catch Mr. FK on MSNBC via XM radio this morning. The host sounded incredulous (I heard her say a quiet “huh?..”) when he said things haven’t gotten better in Baghdad in the last year. But he pointed to the fact that the power supply is still at about 4 hours a day even though many more computers, etc are coming on-line every day.
I can’t take listening to straight MSNBC for long though because they tend to insert titillating crime stories too much and it creeps me out. Oh well, MSNBC is going to be removed from XM radio pretty soon anyways.
good Afternoon / morning :yinyang:
just getting home from the cookout in TienMu :alc:
Hey Kong. I think I’m cooling out my blogger tendencies. It’s almost like an addiction. Maybe it is. Just thought I’d throw it down real fast.:peace:
:alc::alc::alc: Wheeeee :eek::shock::paranoid:
I thought the best way to get your teen or near teen boy away from the computer was spelled GIRL :eek::omg::shock::tongue:
travis-:grin: you’re always welcome.
Well, since both Goldfuck and Marah have been mentioned today…
Industry Vet Goldberg Teams With New West
Music industry veteran and former Air America Radio CEO Danny Goldberg has launched Ammal Records, a
joint-venture with Los Angeles-based New West Records. Goldberg will be the creative force behind Ammal,
which will partner with New West for marketing and promotion efforts.
Ammal marks a return for Goldberg to the label side of the business. The RED-distributed New West, which
is home to the Drive By Truckers, Ben Lee and Kris Kristofferson, among others, will lends its staff and services
to Ammal.
Goldberg founded Artemis Records, and has held leadership positions at record labels Atlantic, Warner
Bros. and Mercury. He also ran management company Gold Mountain in the ‘80s and ‘90s.
Goldberg stepped down from his role as CEO of Air America this spring. He’ll hold the title of vice chairman
at the station until the end of this year. Earlier this month, Goldberg announced the formation of Gold Village
Entertainment, a company that launched as a management firm. His first clients include Steve Earle and Allison
Moorer.
“I wanted to get back in the music business,” Goldberg tells Billboard.biz. “It’s what I’ve done most of my
professional life. I took this break to be CEO of Air America, which was a rare, one-of-a-kind opportunity.”
The Goldberg-managed Earle signed with New West this year, and will release a new album in 2007. New
West president Cameron Strang says talks with Goldberg on the joint venture began after the signing of Earle.
“This is a big move for us,” Strang says. “I got to know Danny during his time at Artemis. We were
competitors on one level, but co-conspirators in the independent music world. We shared the good fight, and a
lot of the struggles, and we both have an independent-minded way of doing business.”
Goldberg says Ammal will release two or three albums per year. No artists have yet been signed to the
imprint. Goldberg says linking with New West will allow him the opportunity to grow the management and label
sides of his operations.
–Todd Martens, L.A.
Don’t kill the messenger!
New West is a good label. I hope they don’t end up as part of DG’s trail of tears.
Bush said he read 60 books in 8 months- Bullshit
Comment by sblueheron — September 1, 2006 @ 11:47 pm
60 books? Wow. I wonder what Archie and Jughead are up to these days.
:rofl2:
well, this ticks me off:
It’s true. They even got a picture of him (I think he’s being both the Reader, and the Decider in this one.):
Kev…Mahr said last night that bush’s claim would equal 2.5 hours of reading per day…then the panel added that when you consider that he exercises for 2 hours per day and he goes to sleep at 9PM, you wonder what the fuck he actually does…?
The Abbey of the Holy Rose is open just for you
:
The Abbey of the Holy Rose is your virtual house of prayer, open for you day and night, whenever you feel like dropping by at:
http://www.freewebs.com/abbeyoftheholyrose
:bow::pent::priest::sdavid:
:rabbi::rofl2::rabbi:
:jesus:
naw, wvmc3d, we won’t kill you here.
put speaking of such things (which is illegal here in the U.S. in regards to certain people)
I guess this is ok over there.
I will drop by, but they have to leave something by my altar as well… :pent::sdavid::tongue:
you wonder what the fuck he actually does…?
Comment by Melina — September 2, 2006 @ 5:25 pm
Not to mention the time he spends having sex with Condi Rice. Which probably would be about 5 minutes if you include the foreplay. :barf:
As an English major, I took umbrage when he said he had read “three Shakespeares.” I didn’t know Cliff Notes came with pictures now.
That gives me an idea, though. We could give him my Shakespeare edition from college, which includes all the plays and most of the poetry, lock him in a room with it and not let him out until he finished reading it. He would die of old age if his head didn’t explode first.
:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:
I don’t know why they’re all bent out of shape. It’s about the only thing that could turn him from a failed president to a deeply mourned national hero. Don’t think I’d care for his replacement too much though.
Hey, um, what are the new rules about, Heron?:doh:
I think I sent you pretty crazy email. Sorry about that.
Yeah, but you gotta add about 45 minutes defrost time.
I borrowed one of those complete Shakespeare editions from the library. Was it Riverside edition? Don’t recall. I may have read one play before I had to return it. I studied Shakespeare in college with an interesting professor named Daniel Wright. (He is big in “The Earl of Oxford is Shakespeare” movement.)
Josh Marshall said “It’s as if Jethro from The Beverly Hillbillies were President….”
He shoulda skipped one of them Shakespeares, and read Oedipus.
I like to read the plays, but I prefer to watch them on the stage – used to go to the Shakespeare theater in Stratford, CT as class trips when I was a kid, some of the better times I had in school as I recall
Well, then there was the Gilligan’s Isalnd episode where they turned Hamet into a musical for Phil Silvers.
eek, I”m embarrassed to say I remember seeing that:omg:
Hell, it’s how I got through 10th grade English w/o having to read the play.
:rofl2:
I found the Soros analysis on Israel/Gaza/Hezbollah (#65) to be quite good overall. (The link went bad, though.)
Does anybody have recommendations for a decent AM radio? One that has a good antenna and is not real expensive. I know C Crain advertises what they say is a superb AM radio. SJ’s Grundig seems to be a good one–hey, SJ! Shall we put together that AM antenna using the instructions posted here?
Anybody read the Shakespeare plays concerning Henry lV and his times? If so, explain similarities between the political situation in Henry lV’s times, and those of GHW Bush (and son).
(OK smartass. Who is the modern Falstaff?)
:omg:
I taught 9th graders
ROMEO and JULIET. :rofl2:JULIUS CAESARis taught in the tenth grade, isn’t it? At least it is out on the frontier.From Rachels blog
Labor Day Weekend Open Thread
by Rachel Maddow on September 2, 2006 – 11:28am.
Hi Blogeratti.
I know everyone’s upset about Mike, about Armstrong Williams on WWRL (he is not AAR staff — his show was necessarily inherited in the change to the new NYC affiliate), and about the paucity of information about forthcoming changes.
AAR wants to announce everything all at once, and they’re not yet ready to do that. I can’t talk about the changes either to the press or on the show until AAR makes its announcement.
That said, feel free to fulminate, holler, blame, explain, hope, strategize, and drift off into tangents in the comments section here. I’ll try to keep a reasonable-sized thread open all weekend.
With respect,
Rachel
Gee, our marevelous Governor George Pataki apparently likes the Iowa State Fair better than his own state’s fair (or at least the food):
Whatta we got, Governor Larry Bud Melman now?
I’m going to get the on-off switch fixed and then a new antenna put on it and then I should be good to go.
I know everyone’s upset about Mike, about Armstrong Williams on WWRL (he is not AAR staff
No shit, Sherlock … :fustrate:
he heard he’s not popular in NY so he decided what the heck, no reason to hang out and coo at babies at state fairs
Beats me, I actually don’t recall when I read Hamlet. We read Romea and Juliet in about eighth grade. I think MacBeth was ninth grade or so. Personally, I read Dalton Trumbo’s “Johnny Got His Gun” for the first time when I was in third grade (I tried to recommend it to the library lady, but when I described what it was about, she thought maybe it wasn’t a good addition to our elementary school library). Everything else seemed timid after that..
When PatakiHole was on C-span the other morning I almost :barf: ed.. He could easily take Dick Cheney’s place and no one could tell the difference by the way he talked.:growl::growl:
Bobby Kennedy is talking to a real jerk now. Peter Beinart! Mike, when are you going to get to “question” this idiot?
Ugh Beinert, who pretends to be a liberal ::shudder::::
Oh, hell, Pataki graced us with his presence. I guess he just figures since he couldn’t get elected dogcatcher in NY anymore, he’d pander to the Iowans (he actually thinks he’s got a prayer at being elected President).
wvm-we heard….dont worry, Im more likely to kill Goldfuck than the messenger. Im always happy for news of another corporation preparing to fail….
INteresting Steve Earle connection, huh?
I finally got through the Rescue Me where the main characters die (those of you who are watching know whay I mean…dont want to give away details for those of you who might start from DVD season1)
And the father in the cemetary visiting his wife….when Tommy goes to find him and starts to take him home, reminds me exactly of my grandpa!
All that “dont touch me!…dont let me fall!…help me!…Dont touch me!”…grandpa usually adds some swingin away which sets him off balance and so then he falls….then he says “get away”…and then “oh shit, you have to help me”….
Just like that Old People skit that Marc did on MS….”Old People, Why dont they just DIE already?!!” heh…so funny….Will loves that one…”Timmy, who’s Timmy?”…..It was about the social security plan, right? Its like the one where Brendan was a remote reporter from this Hindenburg disaster of Bushies burning old people…..I meant to tell him also that I loved that. Will and I had been just listening to the old Clips file that Ive got on my ipod…must make more of those as Partick has some dream diaries and stuff up there now….
Challenge this mindless ideologue, BK!
I am NOT happy with this guy calling himself a liberal
LIberals? Beinart was talking about liberals? That explains a lot.
After you’re finished with the Shakespeare assignment, I have a book to recommend on this “Liberal Question”. Namely,
The New Military Humanism: Lessons From Kosovoby Noam Chomsky.Did anyone hear Lawrence O’Donnell with Dodd at the end of Al’s show on Thursday? I was thinking it was an interesting idea that Dodd wants to run for prez, but then he started to talk Lieberman andhe lost me. Not once in the conversation of Joementum’s LONG service and LONG friendships, did he say that Joe changed!….If he had said, BUT THEN he got this insane idea about Bush’s ideas that not even Shays can hold onto anymore……
I dont know if there is gonna be anyone perfect, cute, and popular out there (Edwards:love:) …so maybe its OK the he loves Joe as a human being….but disagrees with his stance and thinks that Joe needs to listen to the people who put him in office….but, it just sticks in my craw.
Still, we need alot of challengers for Hillary. I hope everyone doesnt just lay down…same with Guilliana and hell yes, Pataki…lets parade every scumbag through Iowa and the rounds….see what shakes out…its gonna be fun, thats for sure!
Beinart’s liberals are what the conservatives (and lefties) have in mind when they are on the subject.
Pictures for your scrap book ..or… to show your kids to remind them of why the revolution took place.
http://www.zombietime.com/wtc_9-13-2001/
Beinart used to get really defensive in interviews (maybe he still does) “defining” what liberal “means” with his own definition of course. “Liberals have traditionally been war hawks” is what he said
I have an interesting new song on my profile page….
Speaking of Palast, I just got an Amazon e-mail which offered Palast’s latest for a steep discount. I think I will get the audio version. (I will wait and get the printed one at Powells.)
i heard dodd, melina. he sounded like he thought himself “noble” for staying with the party over friendship. Also – that cemetary scene was touching. listened to o’donnell today from Thursday’s show and enjoyed it.
PJ, so if i go to the Seditionists store, and you don’t have the book I want and I then link to Amazon from your store, will you get the %? If so, I’ll use your link and not go through Abe books (especially since amazon is bluer now.) Correct-o?
Beinart’s definition of a liberal differs from that of someone like Mike Malloy, or Janeane Garafalo. There is our upcoming struggle, people.
audio versions are more fun…
I caught a little of the O’Donnell on Franken Friday show. He is good on the radio.
If Amazon sells it, you should be able to search for it here, but I would go through ABE, if it’s cheaper. I really only put that there on a lark (it was either play around with that, or read my really boring book(s) for school), and really don’t want anybody buying stuff from there, unless they’d buy it from Amazon anyway (I only get like 4%, and I think they only send me the cash if there’s a minimum, which I’ll never get to). So, go to ABE.
73,000 people from New Orleans are still in Houston living in trailers :::sigh:::
yeah, i enjoyed al’s vacation.
idiot neo-cons behind me have been shooting their damn shot-guns all evening. they bait and kill, typical chickenhawk wimp jerks (did I cover it all?) :rant1:
and there’s more fallout to the bankruptcy bill. Sirota has a new post:
GOP’s Bankruptcy Vote Comes Back to Haunt U.S. Troops
ok, abe – i usually get great deals on their web site.
Looks like another long year for the ‘cuse. 7 – 0 after allowing a 96 yard drive on Wake Forest’s first posession of the game. Good thing it isn’t on TV, or I’d be all pissed off right about now.
I get most of my books from B&N as it’s supposed to be more “liberal friendly” and I have a membership card….but sometimes a book is impossible to find and Amazon is the only place I can find it
Okay. I won’t buy “Armed Madhouse” from Amazon. Or if I do, the penance will be to spend $50 at local, independent bookstores. (Portland still has a few left.)
:priest:
Some ..ok maybe a lot of people equate “liberal” with the last 30 years or so of Demodorps. I would certainly not equate all of what Lyndon Johnson did with the word liberal.. Certainly Bill Clintdork was not a liberal. Jimmy Carter was a liberal but none of the Reich will ever let him forget the Iranian hostage crisis.. Of course these same people will forget completely or deny Iran Contra too. it would seem no matter what party is in charge absolute power tends to corrupt absolutely..:growl::growl::growl: :fist::fist:
The problem is that unless you do have absolute power you can seldom get any legislation passed. Another good reason for some major change in the way this F*uped mess works.
well if you can get it somewhere else… I guess it’s tempting to go with a sale price
I usually do a Froogle search for the ISBN number, and then compare prices. Got “The Jerusalem Syndrome” for about $7, including shipping (from an indie bookstore in NYC). B&N is usually ungodly expensive (not always, though; sometimes they’re cheaper), though they have “fast, free shipping.” They’re a solid blue company . We used to have a membership card, but now my wife gets a discount for working where she works, which amounts to the same thing. For textbooks, I go for the International editions, since they’re paper bound, and about half price.
Re #188:
Yeah. Something like that. Something to do with who dominates the economy.
I grew up equating “liberalism” with an anti-war stance. I guess my parents were more liberal than I sometimes give them credit for because that’s what I was taught. Liberalism supported the working class and was for civil rights, civil liberties, and against war. I can’t think of it any other way.
Oh, SU ties it up, 7-7. More offense in one drive than they had all last season, I think. I knew I shoulda bought more beer.
Sorry to report a football score that nobody cares about, but I need to build up my posts while Druid’s still asleep. 😉
that’s a good idea for finding sale prices, PJ
Can anyone find a good price for this textbook:
A History of Western Philosophy: The Twentieth Century of Quine and Derrida, Volume V
by W.T. Jones
Paperback
b&n, don’t you have to get an associates card to get the cheaper deals? I don’t like that. I got maron’s book for 7 bucks at Abe and I think they have text books. abe has hundreds of thousands of book sellers. sometimes i’ve even located books from sellers here in my little town. they tell you what the shipping is upfront, too.
Let’s see, ABE books, low price $39.97 + $4.95 shipping. Bookholders, $37.24 (didn’t see shipping).
hmm, I’m going to check out Abe books from now on…
yup. going insane. not good:smack:
I bought a textbook this semester through ABE that came from Singapore, and shipped for about $5, got to my door in four days (including the day I ordered it), and they threw in a free book cover. $140 new US edition, $60 including shipping, International edition (only difference, softcover instead of hard).
Jesus! Textbooks are an overheated market. I remember buying W. T. Jones vol.V–through special order at Powells– in 1989. $11.99. Thanks for that. The last time I searched for the updated vol. V–the earlier version ends with Sartre and Wittgenstein–they wanted $160, or so.
Sorry to report a football score that nobody cares about
Comment by pjsauter — September 2, 2006 @ 7:04 pm
Well, here’s another football score that nobody cares about:
Penn State 34
Akron 16
But scoring three times against a Top 20 team qualifies as a moral victory. Better than nothing, I guess. At least it wasn’t a blowout. Or a conference game.
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I have to get some textbooks, used hopefully, to help study for teacher exams…I’m still hoping to find someone to lend me some but that doesn’t really look good… I’m afraid of the cost
Oh, Al-Zawahri has a new tape out
Go Zips!
Damn, the dishwasher leaked all over the floor, and here I am a bachelor tonight. I woulda just left it, but it was in between me and the beer. And now we’ve got thunder and lightning, so the poor dog is shaking underneath my desk, with his poor little nose poking out at me. And he was already bummed, ‘cuz I wouldn’t take him out in the rain today.
Hummm my dishwasher did that the other day too. I got a fork stuck in the bottom door seal.. The night shift intern was saying it cost her like 1200 dollars just for books for one semester at CU.. I thought paying 300 was a bit high. A lot of the profs use books their academic pals wrote so they are not readily available every where.:yuck::eek::paranoid:
Laura’s guest is on a truly cutting edge issue. Right of Return to New Orleans. Also the inhumanity of the real estate booms that are epidemic throughout the nation.
Fight the Power!:fist:
May the Infinite Love and Light and Peace of Our Lord shine upon you and fill your very heart and soul!
Shrine of the Holy Rose:jesus::pent:
I dig Laura
I think this guy in Mani that Flanders is talking too has a good point .. make the poor the new salves..then make everyone poor. We need to get Chavez to provide not only heating oil for the poor but several thousand tons of fertilizer so they can grow their own crops too. . or do with it what ever else one might find to do with fertilizer.. humm fertilizer plus heating oil .. hummmm :growl::paranoid::fustrate::eek:
I was the first female KitchenAid (Hobart) repair technician west of the Mississippi if you need a consult, PJ. (Hey, I’m in to breaking glass ceilings.) :nod:
I remember Hobart from when I worked at a pizza restaurant.
the Goddess gives permission for you to seek temporary sanctuary at that shrine till you can find your way to Her altar :pent::sdavid::cool:
How mich does Kat cost as a lawyer.. Do you work by email ??:eek:
http://www.peoplesorganizing.org/
Had doors slammed in my face because I was a “girl.” My male counterpart was an awful tech, so on the really complicated problems, he wouldn’t be able to fix them and the only way they could get it done was to open the door and welcome me in. :sammy: paybacks can be fun sometimes.
I hope everybody is listening to Laura right now.
must have been fun to show them up, Kat… 😉
fred, don’t know if i can help, but i can give you free ideas. not licensed in your state. But would be happy to think it through with you, though.
souleiadofarm at yahoo – i might not answer tonight though, it’s approaching my witching hour.
Holy shit, the SU radio station is using the MS song for one of their promos. Damn, that makes me feel sad.
:pent::pent::pent::sdavid:
No music on the MySpace Shrine.
Did Jim Carroll yank it away?
I find it kind of amazing how many home appliance techs know less than the home owner does about what is wrong.. I paid the plumber almost 300 bucks to change out the garbage disposal several years ago and I had to go out and buy the garbage disposal. I would wonder what a service call on a dishwasher would cost since they have to tear your kitchen apart to just get at the thing :eek::yuck:
no, it’s in another place. It’s off to the right
A Hobart tech! Oh, be still my heart! Plus, they have those nifty uniforms! I knew you were too good for Mike.
where I write “took the test”…just above that, and you have to click it to start. I found a way of getting any song on my computer on myspace as opposed to being limited to what is on myspace itself
i remember one chauvinistic pig ape in particular. still makes me smile. 😎
Oh, man, I never call anybody. No matter how much I bitch about doing the job. I only recently gave up working on the car, ‘cuz all the years of being a refrigeration mechanic have pretty much destroyed most of my parts.
AND my own white van with Hobart on the side!
I wanted to put my “chocolate” sound file up, but it’s a wav file and I can’t get the code, only MP3’s 😳
i’ve always respected from afar your refrigeration abilities, pj. That’s beyond me. I got so sick of my knuckles being cut & raw that I went back to college.
What did the restaurants think when a female tech showed up. ??.. I can only imagine..:eek:
Oh. Do you mean that soliloquy on chocolate? the one with the Bronx accent schtick?
’twas a double take! I could yank a dishwasher, strip it and put it back together pretty quickly. couldn’t do it now, though, couldn’t lift that much weight. HATED disposals. Nasty. Tried to get the incompetent tech to take those calls because they were about the only thing the guy could fix anyway. :bow:
see you all later.
Hope Travis doesn’t keep his self-imposed exile too long.
:hubba:
A friend of mine took the engine in his Toyota apart and even though he had worked on cars for a long time he could not get it started after he reassembled it and had to have it towed to the dealer where they worked on it for about half a day before they figured out he had a couple of this air pollution sensors hooked up backwards and hadn’t reset the ECU before he tried to start it. Who would think and where in the H* do find that information. :eek::crap::yuck:
you know what I mean, jellybean :pent:
Most of our manufacturing floor personnel are women. For the jobs that require a lot of lifting they have male techs but the women usually do the work while the guy supervises ( reminds me of bad city employ jokes). They run the products that require long machine time at night so only a few people work then. The machine operators are very good at fixing their own minor technical problems even if the ISO 9000 procedure says to call an ( the ) engineer to work with you.:eek::eek::paranoid:
Hey, um, what are the new rules about, Heron?
I think I sent you pretty crazy email. Sorry about that.
Travis sorry it took me over two hours to respond!
But enough with the sorrys- I am so grateful that you sent that to me.
:knit:
Yeah- both the mixer and the slicer:jason: lopped off the end of my finger! Sewed it back on though:nod:
was that in Seattle Nicki?
Olympia.
Oh, man, I was cleaning the meat slicer at my first job – wrestling with the little plastic cup that caught the meat drippings – when the dam cup came off, and my left whatever finger it is between your middle finger and pinky went straight up at full force into the blade. Ouch! Buried that damn blade about an inch down into the tip of my finger. Split the nail in half. Bled like a stuck pig. Still have the scar – almost 30 years later. Ow, ow, ow. Hurts to think about it, even.
Of Katrina, Macacas, and Race
by Rahul Mahajan; Empire Notes; September 01, 2006
As the one-year anniversary of the Katrina disaster approaches, it’s worth taking some time to reflect on the things it hasn’t changed.
I won’t go over the reconstruction that hasn’t happened, the preparation of New Orleans to withstand future hurricanes that didn’t occur, the nonexistent new environmental consciousness, the renewed attention to problems of poverty that hasn’t been given, and the political reform of unresponsive local, state, and federal governments that has not been implemented would take too much time.
I’ll just focus on the grappling with issues of race and racial ideology that hasn’t happened.
After a great deal of noise in the first few days of widespread TV coverage of the disaster about the dark heart of American racial inequality and how our attitudes would be forever changed, things went back to a status quo so unchanged it was as if a race of telepathic superbeings had erased all memory of Katrina.
Perhaps the first indication was a September 8 poll by Pew showing that, when asked if the government’s response would have been quicker had most victims been white, only 17% of whites said “Yes,” as opposed to 66% of blacks. Only 32% of whites said the disaster shows racial inequality is still a major problem, compared with 71% of blacks.
When rapper Kanye West said that George Bush doesn’t care about black people, a patently obvious statement, liberal commentators rushed to attack him. Almost nobody even considered talking about how little white society as a whole cares about black people, even as compared with the modest high points of the late 1860’s and the 1970’s…
http://www.empirenotes.org/august06.html#28aug061
yay! I fixed up my chocolate file so I can put it on my profile page!
Um…I think I’m just going to reorganize my addictive and obsessive tendencies.
Damn, I kept spelling cabbie wrong!:smack:
I think I’ll switch to coffee and reading and what not.
Anybody going to look at the moon tonight? There’s suppose to be a satellite crash on it at around 10:45 West coast time.
http://tiny.bz/0p7/ 😯
I know a black conservative who was furious at the suggestion that George Bush didn’t care about black people… ::sigh::
Well, B let me use his car until tonight’s moon landing..er…crash, so I’ll just go to the bookstore for a while.
Personally, I think dubya just doesn’t give a shit about anybody not in his social circle (you know, his “base”). I don’t think he cares about whit or black or brown. Just green and gold.
Wow…a Hobart tech!! Im very impressed! I fixed the ice maker on my refridgerator twice…and have been known to take things apart and put em back together….but lately alot of the stuff that I feel like I should be doing, Im allowing some help…because Im all backed up with paperwork and all the rest.
The dishwasher leaked here but I cleaned the seal really well and it hasnt again yet…..
The new dishwashers are so much worse than the old ones. I always try to make the dishwashers last because the newer ones dont clean as well…all that energy efficiency crap….
Did Travis ban himself??
It may be a racial issue with him, and it’s definitely a class issue… I still remember Barbara Bush’s comment about the people who were “better off” in the Astrodome…the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree…
I’m not banning myself, I’m simply admitting that I have a problem!:smack:
Last time I was in the emergency room here…my eye, I think, there was this poor south american deli worker from the stop and shop waiting with a bloody cloth on his hand and a disgruntled manager sitting by his side in the waiting room. I was joking round with the woman checking me in, and said something about him, and she said that it was the 3rd time he’d been in with deli machine cuts in the past 2 weeks…like, since he started working there!…just not very good at that job…..poor guy…hope they transferred him to stocking shelves…no breakables!
Mom used to run the cafeteria at Bank St College of Education and that is where I got my first taste of Hobarts…she would make huge amounts of all sorts of food all day in these huge mixers…..could take your head off….
well, your problem isnt in chatting with us I hope!!….
Well, we know dubya likes a little Condi on the side, but, then again, his ilk never saw a problem with making use of a slave or two.
I think Barbara Bush is a horrid woman, and dubya is her boy, no doubt about it. I think the old man is trying to figure out how that loser summunabitch ever got to be prez. I think everybody figgered it’s be Jebby that did that, but I dubya has fucked that up. I can’t imagine another Bush becoming preznit now – not for a couple of generations, anyway. This idiot is likely to leave as the worst liked, least respected (thoroughly disdained, even) – both here and abroad – world leader since Mussolini.
admitting a problem is the hardest part, Trav…its all downhill from there!
What does that mean? I’ve already hit the bottom of the slide. It’s all up hill in my perspective.
Hey, what are the parking rates at the u bookstore on 15 AVE, Heron? And do I have to get a receipt stamped or something?:doh:
Never mind. I’ll just try and figure it out. I’ve already been parked there for an hour.
It’s not a big deal, Melina. I’m just acknowledging that my time management is a little tweaked, and I can’t spend all my cash at the bar. It’s pretty simple, and probably pretty easy. No worries. It’s like with smoking, all you have to do is not do something, right?
Hey, Travis, how do you like Seattle, so far, compared to Anchortown? I mean, I know you want your own place and all, but you think it’s an OK place to live?
Yeah, I guess. I mean, I don’t really like all these people, all these buildings…cars. I need to make more friends I think. And it isn’t bad… The weather is amazing!
Hey you- I was on the phone again..
So You can get two hours if you buy something like over 4 dollars I think.
What’s this moon crash?
Can I watch?
BTW – I need someone to tell me when all the good shows are on this coming “season,” so I know what to record. My wife won’t let my watch commercials (not that I really want to), so I don’t know what’s on. This one with James Woods and 7 of 9 looks good – “Sharks.”
I’m not sure if you can see it without a telescope and even then it’s not a for sure thing. The debris may or may not reflect the sunlight. I bought a sprite! So I guess i have to go back and buy a couple more.
Yeah, there’s more buildings and stuff there, than where you came from? It’ll be nice for you to have a nice, long Fall. You must be used to the snow flying pretty early in the season.
I know someone who has telescopes does that count?
:nod:
PJ, there is a show on thats showing all the new fall shows…check out Jericho. Its about a nuclear bomb dropped on the US
Sharks looks good PJ
Has the friggin’ football game(sorry PJ) let out yet Travis?
How much time do you have at the parking lot?
nip tuck, of course…..prison break, of course…..survivor, bigot edition (actually Im gonna watch it. I dont see much difference between separating the men and women and separating races….)
Amazing race….
Brothers and sisters might be worth a look if youre into dysfunctional families and Calista Flockheart….
I parked at the bookstore because you said it was cheaper than parking at the A. I’m not sure If there’s a time limit. I have until 10:00. Not sure about the football game:doh:
Maybe I’ll get an invitation:roll:
OK, I need to get RG to write up a list of shows to record. It’s odd to be here alone (assuming you don’t count the cats and the dog, all sleeping on or about me). I don’t like this bachelor shit.
To what? The…
The most you can get is 2 hours there..Then you can move it to the street.
Viewing of the moon(the actual moon):shock:
Oh, sure, you can stop by. I’ll tell B.
Oh Yes- Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip…that is Larry ODonnell’s new show with the leftovers from west wing….
I guess I have to go move the car now. Do you ahve to pay on the street too?
They have that Shark preview on now….ch 2 CBS
Oh, yeah, I saw that. With Bradley Whitford, right?
:banana:
Hey I finished a book today…have a lot of catching up to do to that chimp in the photy.
No after 6pm it is free.
I’ll be back.
Surprised to see James Woods on the teevee.
Standoff might be OK….
I usually tape one or two episodes of what interests me…usually dramas…and see if they click. I dont mess around much if they dont because there is so little time. I still tape ER and like it alot….But I think that most of everything else is gone now.
Im sick of Grey’s Anatomy because the lead character is so self centered as to be unlikeable…and Desperate Housewives is just silly….
I still like without a trace.
Im sick of all the CSIs…theyve just gone too far in grossness…
Well, hes not my favortie human being in the world…what a wacko…but the trailers from this look good. If they can keep the writing up it could be a good show.
I hope Travis knows the bookstore is closed…
Hey Melina and PJ what did you think of Bill Maher..
Not the greatest but I had to laugh about Karr’s pants in the new rules section…
Um no one was at the booksore parking so i just drove away. Is that bad? Now I’m on the street
I recorded Bill Mahardeeharhar, but we didn’t get to watch it last night, and I don’t wanna watch it until RG is here (just not as much fun w/o her), so I haven’t seen it yet.
Is the bookstore still open?
Cool PJ…:knit:
I dunno. I didn’t check.
Are you at the A?
yeah:nod:
:joe::nod:
So that parking thing is ok. I didn’t pay anything
Did you get my email?:oops:
Did you have an envelope on your car? They were walking around putting envelopes on windsheilds probably.
Yeah, thanks for responding.
Oh, what’s in the envelope?:smack:
:doh:
Did you get one?
You need to put the ticket with the stickers on it in it and put it in their box.
Otherwise it may come back to haint B
No envelope:omg:
So, will I get a ticket? Fuck! This is fucked.:doh:
Good:banana:
I am going to give G a call and straighten out that moose turd mess ok?
No not if you don’t have an envelope. If you want save that receipt and you can give it to them tomorrow.
OK. tomorrow. tell G that I’m sorry for getting drunk and talking to him. He seemed very nice about it, but I think I crashed his gathering
He is at a party.. :banana:
Why does that get a:banana:?
Because he might be happy to be at a party?
Oh, well, i was thinking about going for a drive with the top down. Any suggestions where to?
I should try and avoid the football traffic.:nod:
Magnolia Blvd?
Is that over by discovery park?
yes..It was where I told you my brother would take me out in his Triumph
Oh, so i just go west for a long ways. OK. I don’t know though. I’ll probably get lost and not make it back for the moon thing
LITTLE ROCK, Ark. — Air passengers from Charlotte to Little Rock, Arkansas, had to hurry off their plane Friday after someone found a suspicious liquid on board.
The flight landed at Little Rock as scheduled Friday afternoon. But about seven miles before it landed, a crew member reported two passengers with two bottles of liquid. Police, firefighters and the bomb squad were called in, but the liquid turned out to be water.
Put 98199 in a map program
Pj you forgot this…:omg:
Thanks. I’ll see ya later. I’m still not sure If I should go. I have no idea how heavy the traffic is
Take 45th all the way out to Ballard
Take a left on 15th and go south over the Ballard Bridge and then a right just after the bridge then…
are you with me so far?
Yeah.:nod:
but not the bridge thing.
Then you will go past Fisherman’s terminal and come to Government way and then take a right and head towards Disco park.
Take a left before the Park entrance and then a right on Emerson which runs the south end of the park and keep going till you see Magnolia Blvd and take a left and go park at the lookout which is a ways down the road.
Hi all. Today I vented some of my bile over Malloy’s firing on the aar message line. Did something I never do, I cursed a blue streak onto a voicemail, wish I could have recorded it. They deserve it. :fu: AAR :fu:
This is the second time I’ve noticed travis ‘regretting’ getting drunk. Huh. :alc:
Someone named CaseyBuck over at Malloy’s message board posted a link to a Malloy interview from a day or two ago:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/virfg6
(The download link is near the bottom of the page; it should work)
I haven’t tried it yet; also says: “He sounds unequivocal that he’ll be back on the air.”
Now what about Marc?
In my expletive-filled voicemail at aar, I cursed them for jerking Marc around too. The firing is one thing, but to do it after making them jump through hoops, leading them on, that is just depraved shit. Rot in hell, aar fuckheads. :mad::mad:
The first number I called I got Laura Flanders *live* on the air! I was so unprepared for that, was working up all my bile to spit onto a message machine. So maybe I should have vented on her, but just didn’t feel it was appropriate. I did tell I wanted to register my displeasure at Malloy being fired, and she gave me an 800 number to call, different than the one my friend emailed.
:doh:OK. :peace:
These are crappy directions… I think the sun already set 🙁
Yeah, I think so too. The sun, not the directions. I’m just a little overwhelmed
later
Are you seeing traffic from the game?
I would just wait it out at the A…
45th will be jammed
I don’t even know when the game is suppose to end. I’m not really seeing anything yet.
hold on …researching
:knit:
The game is over but I can’t find when it started. The purple people were in the u-district at Noon today- I saw ’em.:nod:
:rofl2:Ok. So, I think I’ll just head out then. I’ll blog ya before 9:30
:peace:
Let me know if it is Ok with B..
well, guess directions to the game are what’s on yr minds right now, I seem to have missed the rage-at-aar curve.
g’night
Hey still raging at aar sorry.. exnyer!
Where is Druid?!:fist:
Hey sblue, thanks, yes indeed. Listening to Mike live on ktlk yesterday, he sounds good.
I am just amazed to find how many of my friends listen to Malloy and are incensed about his firing too. 8250 signatures and counting, at the petition to reinstate him:
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?Malloy&1
Where is Nick? Dru?
Mahr wasnt great PJ…it was just so-so….a couplea funny bits and true statements but he is nowhere as good as Stewart and Colbuerre
Yikes, me and one other here? I knew I should have checked in earlier…
Hi Melina; I’m going to leave if we’re the only ones here…
oh…people come and go…but it is sat night….Im half asleep…watching the end of V for Vendetta.
Alright, everything is all set up, but I’m not guaranteeing anything. B said it was cool, and that he’d probably fall asleep before it’s suppose to happen.
I’ll be back in 10 minutes or so.
Let me know if it is OK.with B Travis and I will head over there..
to see the moon
Hey everybody, not been much in the mood to blog this weekend. So something is crashing into the moon tonight? Cool! Wonder if it’ll even be visable from so far away? Wonder where’s Druid? Sleeping? Hey Melina. Everyone. N/m happening here in Birmingham tonight. Eric left about an hour ago. We had a good evening together. I talk to much when he’s around, i.e., say things best left unsaid. Big mouth syndrome. O well . . .
Yeah, it’s cool. He said If that he’s up that he would join us. The impact is at 41 after the hour (I think), so you can come by any time before that.
Do you have binoculars Nick? Check out the moon. You might be able to see something
Maybe if I went on ritalin I’d be better able to express myself. Or maybe my brain is just f’ed up and there is no hope? Don’t answer that. Look at the moon. You may miss it if you look away.
I have some terrestrial binoculars. Better for birdwatching or manwatching than looking at the moon.
Give ’em a shot. It’s only going to be a little explosion.
I doubt you’ll see a small impact on the moon. But who knows? I’m no astronomer. I used to have a cheap teleescope when I was in my teens. I used to know all the constellations and I could distinguish the planets from the stars. I donno about now.
MARC IS ON AAR WEBSTREAM RIGHT NOW – don’t know if this is a rebroadcast or live…
I’m to lazy tonight Travis. You guys let me know if you see anything though. Take a picture of it and get PJ to post it here on the blog.
http://tiny.bz/0p8/
Hey ex-ny’er I’ll check it out. Could use some funny tonight.
I don’t have a camera
Sorry to yell in all caps, I was so excited :hubba::hubba: Marc Marc
It’s a rebroadcast of Seder’s show that Marc was on the other night; but on for the next half hour or hour, after these commercials finish. Can get a Marc fix. :banana:
Hmm, so is that Eastern, Central, Mountain or Pacific time?
Mm k.
Where you at Druid? Hell its Satday nite!
In an hour, man. Maybe. If it hasn’t happened already in its previous orbit
I donno where my roomie went. Guess he went with friends to Decadence in New Orleans.
Notice that they’ve got Malloy listed as on-air right now, with his photo still. Stupid fucks.
Boy, I gave it to them good on the voicemail, told them to shove their premium shit up their asses, ended with several f-u’s. Felt good and noone got hurt.
it says 12:55 here so it would be 1:41?
I ‘d better skedaddle!
Well, Heron, if I see you, I see. If not, it’s cool.
you have 40 mins. or so.
Good for you ex-ny’er! It helps to vent sometimes. Not that those idiots over there listen to anything we have to say.
It’s 12:03 here in Birmingham, Alabama. Central Time Zone.
Well at least you guys sound like you’ll be having some fun together out gazing at the moon. A wine cooler or two. Maybe a vodka orange juice would be nice.
Leslie is bitching again on Sam Seder’s Show. (Repeat) Still funny.
Yeah, I’m booze free for a while:no:
Good for you Travis.
I wonder if Alabama and Auburn won their games tonight? I guess I’ll check later.
Worried about Druid. She’s always here . . . 😥
mm kay, both Alabama and Auburn won their first games. Predictable. I used to be a big college football fan. Not so much anymore. I mindlessly surf the internet day and night now. There is something very wrong about that.
My mind is going . . . I can feel it . . . I can feel it!
I wish there was something good to eat in the house. I’m hungry, but to lazy to drive up the road. Lots of fast food places to eat nearby. The bed sounds more inviting that a Big Mac, Whooper or Beef-N-Cheddar right now.
I guess everyone is out looking at the moon now. :spank:
I’m here heron has landed where is the moon?
hey heron / sblue
I think I’ll change the desktop background on my Imac to amuse myself and take my mind off food.
I’m :yawn:
I think I’ll go to bed. You guys have fun looking at the moon. If the world ends I guess this is goodbye.
I know there’s only one other person here now, but I must post this about racist a-hole Bill Maher:
The following exchange took place on CNN’s Larry King show on Aug. 28.. King’s guest was Bill Maher, long time host of Comedy Central. Here he exposes the kind of anti-Arab racism and philojudaism that disfigures the American media as well as the entire political arena. Get ready to be disgusted.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0608/28/lkl.01.html
LARRY KING: What did you make of the whole Middle East thing about Hezbollah?
BILL MAHER: Well, I wrote a — we were just talking about Arianna in the back. I wrote a little blog for Arianna about that because it was her birthday, you know. I’m not a big blogger but when it’s her birthday you can’t turn her down. And I was saying that to me, you know, the world is Mel Gibson because the world is anti-Semitic.
KING: The world?
MAHER: Absolutely and the proof of that is that they ask Israel to maintain a level of restraint when they’re attacked that no other country would ever be asked to uphold.
I mean can you imagine if there was a terrorist organization that took over the country on our northern border, which would be Canada, and they started shelling us in our northern cities and Minnesota and Bangor, Maine was being shelled, what do you think George Bush would do?
I think he would nuke them before breakfast. And, look, you know I don’t like George Bush but he is the best president we’ve ever had on Israel because for some reason he gets that.
I think the reason he gets it is because he’s a crazy evangelical Christian. He thinks the world is going to end in our lifetime, so Israel needs to be in the hands of the people who it was in the hands of when Jesus returns which would be the Jews. That’s why the Christians do so.
KING: Did Hezbollah in a sense though PR wise win that?
MAHER: PR wise of course because the media always likes the underdog or what they perceive as the underdog, not that they’re really the underdog at this point. Did you see those pictures of Hezbollah handing out cash?
I had Spike Lee on Friday night and I was saying, you know, when you see Katrina a year later these people can’t get help. A day after the war ended there is Hezbollah handing out and peeling off hundred dollar bills, American, U.S. currency, hundred dollar bills.
KING: Where did it come from, Iran?
MAHER: Where did it come from? It came from U.S. consumers buying gasoline. I wish someone would do a little tape where they would morph that, morph the guy at the pump paying for his gasoline here in America into the Hezbollah guy peeling off those hundred dollar bills. Yes, we buy gasoline. It does to Iran because they sell us the oil. They get the money to Hezbollah. Hezbollah shells Israel. It’s a continuum.
So, you know, I feel really bad for Lebanon. I’m sorry you got your country all bombed up. But, you know, when you let a terrorist organization take over your country that’s what’s going to happen. I’ll tell you two Arab countries that never get bombed, Egypt and Jordan, because they made a peace treaty with Israel. Try it.
KING: Yes. All right, we’re going to take a break, folks.
Is anyone listening to Maron on Majority Report AAR stream?
:omg:
Maher is very backwards in his “Middle East analysis,” but at least he is honest about it. Who will give him an amen?
Chomsky Foucault Debate: On Human Nature $14.95
by Noam Chomsky, Michel Foucault
Published by New Press
(I once found an earlier version of this book at the University of Washington.)
The Meaning of Responsibility
The No-Fault White House
By RALPH NADER
The chronically no-fault White House and its no-fault President were on their no-fault roll again around the country. George W. Bush, the Commander-in-Chief of the politics of non-faultism-went on another redundant symbolic trip to Katrina land. There, near the wreckage that even now is much of New Orleans, he announced: “I take full responsibility for the federal government’s response.”
Politicians often resort to such “full responsibility” language when they know no one can impose any real accountability-in this case for a continuing cascade of Bush’s governmental blunders, incompetence, corrupt contracting and fundamental dereliction of duty. All these abysmal failures are occurring in spite of the many billions of dollars made available by Congress for rebuilding and critical services.
Month after month, the same pictures of huge swaths of the devastated city dominate television news programs. Half of the population of New Orleans has not returned because there is still nothing to return to. Most of the hospitals are still closed.
Thousands of trailers purchased for the people who lost their homes are still parked, undistributed along the affected Gulf regions, in Hope, Arkansas-the hometown of Bill Clinton. Your 400 million tax dollars at work.
If George W. Bush heard one message from the bone-weary residents during his trip again and again, it was the question, “Mr. President, are you going to turn your back on me?” “Not again,” he replied to one witness. And then off he flew to the ranch at Crawford before taking off again to visit cities sounding his anti-terrorism theme. A theme he is hoping will win for the Republicans in the November mid-term elections.
Polls and other indicators show that he is losing ground. More and more Americans are going with the majority who don’t believe him on Iraq and not just his fabricated arguments for the boomeranging invasion of 2003. They don’t believe the Iraq war is: worth the cost; worth the distraction from the problems here at home, or has anything to do with the terrorism he invokes when he speaks of 9/11.
This past week the President-obsessively-compulsed with his disastrous war policies-chose assemblies of veteran groups to reach new depths of historical hysteria. He compared the struggle against “Islamic extremists” to the battles against Nazism and Communism.
Consider this grotesque exaggeration. The Nazis launched an expansionist world war against numerous countries with what was then the most powerful military machine in the world. They slaughtered many millions of civilians. The Soviet communists possessed multiple nuclear capabilities which could destroy the United States in an hour-as the U.S. could do to them. Does George W. Bush have any idea what his prepared cue cards are telling him to utter?
The thrust of the opposition to the U.S. in the Middle East is to get the U.S. out of their land, their oil resources, and to stop backstopping the Israeli occupations of Arab land and control of precious Arab water in Palestine and Syria. Many in the Middle East want an end to the decades long military, political and diplomatic support of what they see as dictatorships over their own people.
As Mr. Bush, Secretary of State Colin Powell and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld each said once in the aftermath of 9/11, dictatorships, destitution, poverty and hopelessness are breeding grounds for the emergence of terrorists. But Mr. Bush, Mr. Cheney and Mr. Rumsfeld are not following the logic of such a recognition in perpetuating their failed and perilous policies overseas.
Inside the Bush Administration-from the General Casey to then CIA Director, Porter Goss-to outside the government among prominent former Generals, Ambassadors and intelligence officials, there is the realization that our military presence in Iraq is a recruiting magnet for training more and more young men for violent sabotage.
Many of the retired government officials, who have served under Republican and Democratic Administrations, have spoken out. They have written articles, given media interviews, co-signed letters, testified and some have marched in protest. But they’re not yet ready to say publicly that Bush and Cheney should resign for their disastrous performances against the interests of the United States and its position in the world.
The Bush regime simply has no standards for failures in its operations because it has no intention of ever admitting their failures and changing course. The no-fault-Bush and Cheney have every intention of continuing the loss of the lives of American soldiers and the bloody casualties among Iraqis until they hand the situation in Iraq over to their successors in January 2009. Mr. Bush has said as much a few weeks ago.
He will never withdraw our troops and close our military bases no matter what the cost to our country and its ignored critical necessities here at home.
So, taking the lead in full page advertisements in The New York Times is a new group by the name of The World Can’t Wait. They are not waiting for Congress to impeach Bush. They want a mass mobilization to make Bush/Cheney resign. Richard Nixon resigned and Vice President, Spiro Agnew, resigned for causes far less momentous than the crimes of these stubborn recidivists in control of our federal government.
In one of his desperate rhetorical reaches last week, Mr. Bush assailed his critics as “blaming American first.” No, Mr. Bush, a growing majority of Americans are blaming you-George W. Bush-not America. Every day you demonstrate how you are ruining America.
Accept your responsibility at long last and retire to Texas along with Mr. Cheney, as an act of mercy.
The Altalena Effect
For those who don’t know, or who have already forgotten: Altalena was a small ship that arrived off the coast of Israel in the middle of the 1948 war, carrying a group of Irgun men and quantities of weapons, it was not clear for whom. David Ben-Gurion was afraid of a putsch and ordered the shelling of the ship, off the coast of Tel-Aviv. Some of the men were killed, Menachem Begin, who had gone aboard, was pushed into the water and saved. The ship sank, the Irgun was dispersed and its members joined the new Israeli army.
29 years later Begin came to power. All the careerists joined him in haste. And then it appeared, retroactively, that practically everybody had been on board the Altalena. The little ship expanded into a huge aircraft carrier – until the Likud lost power and Altalena shrunk back to the size of a fishing boat.
AVNERI
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The Palestinians are Facing National Destruction
Viewing the World from a Bombsight
By NOAM CHOMSKY
In Lebanon, a little-honored truce remains in effect–yet another in a decades-long series of ceasefires between Israel and its adversaries in a cycle that, as if inevitably, returns to warfare, carnage and human misery. Let’s describe the current crisis for what it is: a US-Israeli invasion of Lebanon, with only a cynical pretense to legitimacy. Amid all the charges and counter-charges, the most immediate factor behind the assault is the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
This is hardly the first time that Israel has invaded Lebanon to eliminate an alleged threat. The most important of the US-backed Israeli invasions of Lebanon, in 1982, was widely described in Israel as a war for the West Bank. It was undertaken to end the Palestinian Liberation Organisation’s annoying calls for a diplomatic settlement. Despite many different circumstances, the July invasion falls into the same pattern.
What would break the cycle? The basic outlines of a solution to the Israel-Palestine conflict have been supported by a broad international consensus for 30 years: a two-state settlement on the international border, perhaps with minor and mutual adjustments…
http://www.counterpunch.org/chomsky09022006.html
Here is the basic outlines of a solution Chomsky mentions:
United Nations Security Council Resolution 242
From Wikipedia
United Nations Security Council Resolution 242 (S/RES/242) was adopted unanimously by the UN Security Council on November 22, 1967 in the aftermath of the Six Day War. It was adopted under Chapter VI of the United Nations Charter [1]. The resolution was framed by Supreme Court Justice Arthur Goldberg and British ambassador Lord Caradon.
It calls for the “withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict” and the “[t]ermination of all claims or states of belligerency”.
It also calls for the recognition of all established states by belligerent parties (Israel, Egypt, Syria, Jordan) of each other and calls for the establishment of secure and recognized boundaries for all parties.
It is one of the most commonly referenced UN resolutions in Middle Eastern politics. It was reaffirmed by UN Security Council Resolution 338, adopted after the 1973 Yom Kippur War.
(The US has also vetoed several Security Council Resolutions based on 242.)
The core issue–the Israel-Palestine conflict–can be settled by diplomacy, if the US and Israel abandon their rejectionist commitments. Other outstanding problems in the region are also susceptible to negotiation and diplomacy. Their success can never be guaranteed. But we can be reasonably confident that viewing the world through a bombsight will bring further misery and suffering, perhaps even in “apocalyptic terms”.
Noam Chomsky
Sums it up nicely
I like Paul Hackett. He is real, unlike that hawk Reickhoff.
just caught the very end of it…
When Criticism of Cluster Bombs is “Anti-Semitic”
By STANLEY HELLER
The Israeli paper Ha’aretz reports that the head of Germany’s Jewish community accused a minister in Angela Merkel’s German government of “anti-Semitism” because of the minister’s statement on Israel’s use of cluster bombs. Development Aid Minister Heidemarie Wieczorek-Zeul had asked for a United Nations probe into Israel’s use of cluster bombs in civilian areas of Lebanon.
Charlotte Knobloch, president of the Central Council of German Jews, complained about what she terms a growing “anti-mood [sic] against Israel and the Jews” in Germany. [Ha,aretz August 30] Merkel, who made absolutely no criticism of Israel during the fighting, immediately met with Knobloch to “soothe Jewish ire” according to Deutche Welle [August 31]
The U.N. humanitarian chief Jan Egeland revealed this week that of the estimated 100,000 unexploded cluster bombs lying in Lebanon almost all of them were fired in the last few days of the fighting when the terms of the ceasefire had already been set. The Guardian (UK) reports Egleand said, “What’s shocking–and I would say to me completely immoral is that ninety per cent of the cluster bomb strikes occurred in the last 72 hours of the conflict, when we knew there would be a resolution,” he said…
Stanley Heller is chairperson of the Middle East Crisis Committee in Connecticut. It’s website is http://www.TheStruggle.org and he can be reached at mail@TheStruggle.org
The U.N. humanitarian chief Jan Egeland revealed this week that of the estimated 100,000 unexploded cluster bombs lying in Lebanon almost all of them were fired in the last few days of the fighting when the terms of the ceasefire had already been set.
Jeez…
Stop that antisemitism! :no:
I can’t help it, I’m self-loving :love:
You know what they say: A philosemite is a secret antisemite.
No doubt some Germans of the post-war generation genuinely accepted the burden of guilt together with its paralyzing taboos on independent, critical thought. But today German “political correctness” is all a charade of pretending to accept the burden of being German while actually rejecting it. For, what is the point of these interminable public breast-beatings except to keep reminding the world: “We are not like them.”
It can also be safely said that politically correct Germans know full well that, more often than not, the criticism leveled against Israeli policy and misuse of the Nazi holocaust is valid. In private conversation (as I’ve discovered) they freely admit to this. They profess to fear that, if Jewish abuses become public knowledge, it will unleash a tidal wave of anti-Semitism. Is there really any likelihood of this happening in Germany today? And isn’t vigorous and candid debate the best means to stem an anti-Semitic tide: exposing the abuses of the Jewish establishment as well as the demagogues who exploit these abuses for nefarious ends?
What politically correct Germans really fear, I suspect, is the loss of power and privilege attendant on challenging the uncritical support of all things Jewish. Indeed, their public defense of the indefensible not only breeds cynicism in political life but, far from combating anti-Semitism among Germans, actually engenders it. Isn’t this duplicity typically credited to a dread of, or a desire to curry favor with, a presumed all-powerful Jewry? One also can’t help but wonder what thoughts run through the heads of politically correct Germans about Jews when the ones they typically consort with, prostrate themselves before in unctuous penance, and publicly laud are known to be the worst sort of hucksters.
The challenge in Germany today is to defend the memory of the Nazi holocaust and to condemn its abuse by American Jewish elites; to defend Jews from malice and to condemn their overwhelmingly blind support for Israel’s brutal occupation. But to do this requires real moral courage — not the operatic kind that politically correct Germans so love.
Norman Finkelstein
not really familiar with that term
Pillorying a Jewish dissident costs nothing — and provides a “legitimate” outlet for latent prejudice. It happens that I agree with Daniel Goldhagen’s claim in Hitler’s Willing Executioners that philo-Semites are typically anti-Semites in “sheep’s clothing.” The philo-Semite both assumes that Jews are somehow “different” and almost always secretly harbors a mixture of envy of and loathing for this alleged difference. Philo-Semitism thus presupposes, but also engenders a frustrated version of, its opposite. A public, preferably defenseless, scapegoat is then needed to let all this pent-up ugliness ooze out.
NORMAN FINKELSTEIN
good articles – I would say it takes a lot of moral courage if you’re German to condemn Israel, but it has to be done
“We are philosemites, to use a French term, whose friends and relatives are often Jews.
We define “philosemite” (also “judeophile”) thus, as a gentile who not only is aware of and knows Jews personally, but also appreciates their existence through history as a group as well as individuals, and who finds them personally, for various reasons, among the more interesting and likeable of one’s friends. Such people, among whom the author belongs, feel that their fate is bound up with that of the Jews. They would ordinarily be the first to “correct” their Jewish friends on matters of interest to Jews, except that the friends and the media are usually adverse to such criticism unless it is formulated on a strictly and often impossibly narrow and mannered basis. The large number of people who are not anti-semitic and can “take or leave” their relationships with Jews, are not considered here to be philosemites or judeophiles. “
I was on that site too. I found that passage rather despicable.
the whole website is pretty annoying. Oh well. I can’t find a wikipedia entry or anything for the word.
That “author” is sort of patronizing. Falls right into the stereotypes.
I just can’t talk about Israel with you, because the limits of the debate are too narrow. You will take my head off if I am too harsh. Forget I said anything about international law. That “disputed territory” is a false concept in the debate,,,
Philo is Greek for love. Lover of semites.
“disputed territory is a false concept” seems to be a typical response by zionists – what they usually mean is “we’re not arguing about that because it’s our land according to the bible, so there”
If you are really bored there is a discussion by the US Institute of Peace on C-span talking about religious influences in the Middle East.
:paranoid:
ok. So those who really love them hate them. Nice.
Judeo-phile.
Stop your anti-Highlanderism!
Are you an anglo-phile or an anglo-phobe?
hey Fred
I hate Latin prefixes and suffixes… :40:
I was being rhetorical when I threw out that “disputed territory” stuff. The underlying story is that international law says that it is illegal for any nation to annex occuppied territory. Israel is, according to international law, is occuppying the West Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem. During the Oslo Accord days, Israel got Arafat to sign an agreement which called the “Occuppied Territory” “Disputed Territory” and therefore open to some sort of negotiations over whose territory it is. Aipac talking point bulletins frequently stress “disputed territories”.
You see that wolf’s clothing stuff everywhere.
ok, so “disputed territories” is their framing. I think I hear it a lot, so it must be a successful frame. It has to be countered.
true, if you “have black friends, and you ever mention it, you’re supposed to be a racist”. So that kind of stuff is everywhere.
I get the definite impression this incursion into Lebanon kind of went over like a lead balloon with the Israeli public. Lots of calls for the heads of the Israeli government by the Israelis.
I don’t know if that was because they found it wrong or that they discovered they lost.:eek::paranoid:
Propaganda. Vested power uses propagaanda. Always go back to the law–UN 242 in this case–when dealing with zionist apologists. It is Occuppied Territory”. A clear violation of, for instance, the 4th Geneva Convention.
Use common sense on that stuff. If you are real, you don’t fall into that pc slippery slope–and kabuki theater–ditch.
that’s a good thing to throw at them
I would think that any land occupied by the Israelis that was not in the UN charter that created Israel would be considered as “occupied”
whoa….ok then!
Re 430:
Absolutely!
Female dominance is a traditional thing among Jews. You know that youself.
that’s true. We take it to an art form.
and the pagan Goddess influence doesn’t hurt in that regard either…
I do know that damn near every paganwitch at my college was originally a Jewish babe.
…before they changed to the pagan babe form.
I found this historical discussion of the Israeli Palestinian conflict pretty interesting..
http://www.mideastweb.org/briefhistory.htm
It looks like its from the Palestinian point of view but agrees on most points about the Israeli aggression causing most of the problems.:eek:
Isn’t wonderful that those Jews can be so liberal and open-minded?
I guess it’s a natural thing if you feel like a Goddess already to get in touch with one…
And then there are those pesky Jewish radicals and communists.
I feel the need to dominate :omg:
Most of the public’s interpretation of the situation in the Middle East has come from our seemingly Jewish dominated media. You never see the events leading up to the Palestinians attacking Israel. So it always makes the Palestinians out to be the bad guys. In the early days of the conflict there were few media outlets in the middle east but now one as Hezbollah TV ( the FAUX news of the middle east which is banned in the US) and Aljazeera who will soon have streaming video as well as satellite TV.
Now if they would just have Middle East Idol so someone will watch it.:fustrate::paranoid:
Here, Fred. Read this:
http://www.marxists.de/middleast/brenner/ch07.htm
I think the GOD of the old testament must have been a Jewish Woman.( insert emo of lightening strike here) 😮
Yes, to both of you. Those Jews do seem to like to dominate; the female-dominated personal relationships, and in the media. That’s just the way it is.
:bow:
no, a Jewish woman would not have done that…. they’re out of touch with the shekinah (go ahead, look it up)…that’s the problem with patriarchies
The patriarchs are out of touch with
SHEKINAHThe Jewish goddess aspect is more concerned with the home than affairs of state, it’s the male god aspect Jehovah, he of too much testosterone, who gets all expansionist and bloody with his wars
The Shekinah was one of the five things lacking in the Second Temple…even shunning the Goyim, it rested solely among the Jewish Goddess Babes.
Jesus shine your Light right on me.
Oops! You are right. Where does someone like Hildegard fit into all of this?
The Jews seem to have also been the “capitalists” through out most of recorded history. There actions seem to have caused concern in regard to the suppression of the non entrepreneurial types ( translated as the non aggressive asshole types) for quite some time and this has been used to demonize them to the advantage of people like Hitler and even in the early Soviet governments. It would be interesting to see how many Fortune 500 CEO’s are Jewish to see if this is more factual than hearsay. :gate::jason::jason::jason:
A lot of Jews became money lenders and bankers because at a certain time that was the only profession open to them…I have an article about that somewhere
“Shekinah means “presence of God” and relates to the feminine aspect of the Holy Trinity. It is the energy that sanctifies from within the dimension of matter or the Holy Spirit. Shekinah is the visible manifestation of the divine presence. One place within the Old Testament it appeared as the cloud that followed the children of Isreal in the desert.”
May the good lord Shine a light on you,
the article even goes as far as saying some of the skills associated with that type of profession is genetic…I guess they don’t know know about me and my phobia of math, numbers, and anything along those lines
Bullshit, Fred. Think Jesus in the Temple of Jerusalem–with a whip.
Who was he whipping?
Why was he whipping?
But in other ways, life was difficult. The Ashkenazim couldn’t own land. They were banned from the guilds. They were heavily taxed.
Yet the Ashkenazim did very well, in spite of these constraints, because they found an ingenious way to adapt to their new environment that didn’t rely on physical labor. What they noticed, as they set up their towns, located mainly at the crossroads of trade routes, was that there was no one around to lend money.
So there it was: a demand and a new supplier. Because of the Christian prohibition against usury, Jews found themselves a financially indispensable place in their new home, extending loans to peasants, tradesmen, knights, courtiers, even the occasional monastery. The records from these days are scarce. But where they exist, they are often startling. In 1270, for example, 80 percent of the 228 adult Jewish males in Perpignan, France, made their living lending money to their Gentile neighbors, according to Marcus Arkin’s Aspects of Jewish Economic History. One of the most prolific was a rabbi. Two others were identified, in the notarial records, as “poets.”
That goddamn capitalist, Karl Marx.
Were the Fuggers of Germany Jewish, Fred?
Jews were used as bailiwicks against the peasantry in medieval Europe by kings and princes.
Jesus was a Jew whipping ( if that interpretation was indeed what happened) the people selling sacrifices and the money lenders ( who were known to be quite dishonest) because they defiled the purpose of the temple. The money lenders could have been almost anyone at that time.. they obviously got along with ( translated kissed the asses of) the Romans
hmm whipping was a big thing in Rome I understand…
They were making money, Fred. Exploiting a holy festival to make a buck, as Jews are genetically programmed to do. So, why would Jesus get upset at things that are hard-wired?
Book Review
Review by Morris Halle
Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years, Foreword by Gore Vidal, By Israel Shihak; Pluto Press, London, England and Boulder, Colorado.
http://zena.secureforum.com/Znet/zmag/articles/july95halle.htm
The issues that this book raises go to the heart of what it means to be a Jew in our times, and their resolution will determine the course of Jewish history for generations. It is my hope that enough people will read this important book to make it impossible for it to be ignored, and that as a result the issues that the book raises will be debated in public, so that they may be dealt with openly and rationally.
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Ascribing an ethnic or racial explanation to any trait more ambiguous than skin color is by definition a dangerous idea, the kind of notion that can seep into the political arena with disastrous consequences. Institutionalized racism has always found sanction in the scientific community, from eminent biologist Louis Agassiz’s racial typologies justifying slavery in the 1850s, to the Nazi scientists’ depraved use of calipers to establish Jewish inferiority, to psychologist Arthur Jensen’s call in the sixties to stop funding Head Start because most of its poor, black recipients were intrinsically uncoachable.
We may consider ourselves the products of a new, more enlightened age, and scientists may carry on with more sensitivity than they did in the past. Yet to invoke the genome as an explanation for anything more complicated than illness or the most superficial traits (like skin color) is still considered taboo, as Harvard president Larry Summers discovered when he suggested the reason for so few female math and science professors might lurk in scribbles of feminine DNA (rather than, say, the hostile climes of the classroom, the diminished expectations of women’s parents, or a curious cultural receptivity to Pamela Anderson’s charms).
For this reason, and the fact that it did not meet the standards of traditional scientific scholarship, Harpending and Cochran’s paper attracted a barrage of criticism from mainstream geneticists, historians, and social scientists.
I thought the money-making trait was in the Hebrew genes? :doh:
that’s what the article discusses, the research that says that. The article is actually called “Are Jws Smarter?” It looks at the issue from both sides
The word “capitalist” implies the application of capital ie money.. so whats wrong with what I said CEO’s are not selling a product they are merely using company assets to make more assets and keeping their share.:eek:
I’m looking for a connection between Jewish woman and propensity to dominate… :pent::razz:
Jewish historiography, especially in English, is misleading on this point inasmuch as it tends to focus on Jewish poverty and anti-Jewish discrimination. Both were real enough at times; but the poorest Jewish craftsman, peddler, land-lord’s steward or petty cleric was immeasurably better off than a serf. This was particularly true in those European countries where serfdom persisted into the 19th century, whether in a partial or extreme form: Prussia, Austria (including Hungary), Poland and the Polish lands taken by Russia. And it is not without significance that, prior to the beginning of the great Jewish migration of modern times (around 1880), a large majority of all Jews were living in those areas and that their most important social function there was to mediate the oppression of the peasants on behalf of the nobility and the Crown. (SHAHAK)
Jew in medieval Europe, were used by the nobility to oppress the peasants. If you look into this, the reason why they were privileged had to do with historical circumstances–not genetics.
So maybe the left should demonize the banking ( translated money or capital producting side) community and not the goods production side.. .then we can be in the same boat with Hitler..and whats his name in Iran.
Because they are smarter. All those years away from that stifling, shekina-less talmudic textual stuff, the Jewish female keepers of the household developed ingenious methods to maintain power in their domain. This has been passed on, woman to woman to the present day. (You know that yourself.)
sounds like there’s a lot of history I have to read
Read your Marx, Fred. It is not capitalism until labor power becomes a commodity.
:rabbi:
:jesus:
I don’t know if it was “passed on” to me by anyone…but I think it does have something to do with how Jewish girls are raised…
New sheets
Same thing.
:bow::sdavid::pent:
on your bed fred?
The phase of the ancient kingdoms of Israel and Judah, until the destruction the first Temple (587 BC) and the Babylonian exile. (Much of the Old Testament is concerned with this period, although most major books of the Old Testament, including the Pentateuch as we know it, were actually composed after that date.) Socially, these ancient Jewish kingdoms were quite similar to the neighboring kingdoms of Palestine and Syria; and—as a careful reading of the Prophets reveals—the similarity extended to the religious cults practiced by the great majority of the people.1 The ideas that were to become typical of later Judaism—including in particular ethnic segregationism and monotheistic exclusivism—were at this stage confined to small circles of priests and prophets, whose social influence depended on royal support.
2. The phase of the dual centers, Palestine and Mesopotamia, from the first “Return from Babylon” (537 BC) until about AD 500. It is characterized by the existence of these two autonomous Jewish societies, both based primarily on agriculture, on which the “Jewish religion,” as previously elaborated in priestly and scribal circles, was imposed by the force and authority of the Persian empire. The Old Testament Book of Ezra contains an account of the activities of Ezra the priest, “a ready scribe in the law of Moses,” who was empowered by King Artaxerxes I of Persia to “set magistrates and judges” over the Jews of Palestine, so that “whosoever will not do the law of thy God, and the law of the king, let judgment be executed speedily upon him, whether it be unto death, or to banishment, or to confiscation of goods, or to imprisonment.”2 And in the Book of Nehemiah—cupbearer to King Artaxerxes who was appointed Persian governor of Judea, with even greater powers—we see to what extent foreign (nowadays one would say “imperialist”) coercion was instrumental in imposing the Jewish religion, with lasting results.
In both centers, Jewish autonomy persisted during most of this period and deviations from religious orthodoxy were repressed. Exceptions to this rule occurred when the religious aristocracy itself got “infected” with Hellenistic ideas (from 300 to 166 BC and again under Herod the Great and his successors, from 50 BC to AD 70), or when it was split in reaction to new developments (for example, the division between the two great parties, the Pharisees and the Sadduceans, which emerged in about 140 BC). However, the moment any one party triumphed, it used the coercive machinery of the Jewish autonomy (or, for a short period, independence) to impose its own religious views on all the Jews in both centers.
During most of this time, especially after the collapse of the Persian empire and until about AD 200, the Jews outside the two centers were free from Jewish religious coercion. Among the papyri preserved in Elephantine (in Upper Egypt) there is a letter dating from 419 BC containing the text of an edict by King Darius II of Persia which instructs the Jews of Egypt as to the details of the observance of Passover.3 But the Hellenistic kingdoms, the Roman Republic and early Roman Empire did not bother with such things. The freedom that Hellenistic Jews enjoyed outside Palestine allowed the creation of a Jewish literature written in Greek, which was subsequently rejected in toto by Judaism and whose remains were preserved by Christianity.4 The very rise of Christianity was possible because of this relative freedom of the Jewish communities outside the two centers. The experience of the Apostle Paul is significant: in Corinth, when the local Jewish community accused Paul of heresy, the Roman governor Galio dismissed the case at once, refusing to be a “judge of such matters;” 5 but in Judea the governor Festus felt obliged to take legal cognizance of a purely religious internal Jewish dispute.6
This tolerance came to an end in about AD 200, when the Jewish religion, as meanwhile elaborated and evolved in Palestine, was imposed by the Roman authorities upon all the Jews of the Empire.7
Uh, I’ll write ya an email, Heron.:nod:
SUSAN SONTAG: …It’s personally hard for me to understand how in December 1967 in New York the discussion has at no point turned actively to the question of whether we, in this room, and the people we know are going to be engaged in violence. Only Mr. Chomsky in one sentence — breathtakingly short — said: Of course, it goes without saying that we in the peace movement in America should not use violent means. That’s the issue I think we ought to be discussing here.
CHOMSKY: I had intended to talk about that and even have some notes about it. I hoped that by that quote from Tolstoy I would at least imply what I felt, namely that the real issue today is the all-importance of the refusal to participate in violence, the refusal to fight. I think that’s not only crucial for the Vietnam War but a terribly crucial, central thing for us citizens of the world dominant power, the world’s major aggressive power — that we use the freedoms that still exist in it to try to build up resistance to participation in war. As to the tactics of the peace movement, I think there are very strong reasons in favor of nonviolence. The first reason — which Professor Hans Morgenthau described quite eloquently — is that the government happens to have a monopoly of terror. Therefore violence is simply suicidal. There is no way of combatting the terror, the violence that the government can use in response to any use of violence that the peace movement might adopt. And the situation is clearly getting worse. As some of you may know, the major universities are participating quite actively now in developing new techniques of control of demonstartions and crowds. The Institute of Defense Analysis which is run by a consortium of ten major Eastern universities — Columbia, Princeton, MIT, and so on — has been working on crowd control, which means control of blacks, students, peace demonstrators. And the technology for doing this is extrememly efficacious and will only improve. So that’s one reason for nonviolence.
The second reason for nonviolence, I think, is that clearly violence antagonizes the uncommitted. And what we want to do is not antagonize them, but attract them to, involve them in, the resistance to the War. We want to get them to take part in active resistance to this and whatever future war the United States will attempt to conduct. Toward this end, violence carried out by peace demonstrators would be a serious “counterproductive” tactical error. And, as I mentioned before, I think that these tactical considerations are not in the least to be disparaged, but are actually the only considerations that have, ultimately, any moral charcter to them, because they are the considerations that involve the human costs. And I think the same is true even in the case of the confrontation with authority.
Sitting next to Mr. O’Brien, who was just beaten up by the police a couple of days ago, I hesitate to say that one can appeal to the policeman by nonviolence. I, myself, have not been beaten up by the police, but I was kicked around a little bit by them a couple of weeks ago and I certainly didn’t feel so optimistic about such appeals at that moment. But despite that, I do think there have been historical occasions when this was possible, when in fact there was defection from the ranks of authority. And we may not be too far from that now. For example, last summer, the paratroopers who were sent into Detroit consisted of 25 percent Negroes and I think it was extremely stupid of the government to be willing to take the gamble that they were going to fire their guns in one direction and not in the opposite direction. Next summer, it may work the other way. One technique for making it happen would be the choice of appropriate means, and in this case I think it has to be nonviolent tactics.
Another very convincing reason for limiting oneself to nonviolent action is that in a way that’s pretty hard to characterize, immense harm is done to the individual who participates in violent action. Almost invariably he becomes much the worse for it. On the other hand, the participant in nonviolent action very often does achieve a kind of tranforming effect. And I do believe we need a moral revolution in certain sectors of American society which can then perhaps extend to other sectors. If these people are contaminated, and if their potential for transforming the society is destroyed, that’ll be a terrible tragedy.
On the other hand, if they can reach the kind of maturity and dignity, and depth of understanding, that was in fact reached by many of the Southern Negro participants in the civil rights movement — and nobody who’s seen any of that or taken part in it can doubt that it was achieved — if that kind of moral, human transformation can be achieved, I think it could be an enormous benefit to the society at large, and might even save the world from destruction — which may otherwise not be too far off. […]