Last day of the “old” AAR lineup, and the day when (supposedly) AAR is going to announce their “restructuring.” I dunno, it’s not that I have anything in particular against the shows that’re moving to the evening slots – it’s just that I don’t see them as entertaining fare that’s gonna raise their listenership. I have nothing against preaching to the choir, but if they think this is gonna be the big move that’ll get them better ratings (or get their programming on more stations), I think they’re nuts. Or maybe it’s just the people willing to work for next to nothing. Give the big bucks to Al and Randi, and then go as cheap as you can on everything else. Oh well, I just hope some good, entertaining, progressive radio (like, say, the Marc Maron Show) comes out of all this – if not at AAR, then someplace else. Speaking of Maron, if you’re in the San Francisco area, you can catch him for four shows (8:00 & 10:00, tonight and tomorrow night) at the Punchline on Battery Street. And if you can’t make it to the show, you can catch him on Keepin’ it Real with Will and Willie, on the Quake, 960 AM from 7AM – 10AM Pacific time (listen live here). Can’t catch it live? Well, since it isn’t an AAR show, you can podcast it. Enjoy.
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Rethugs are full of :crap:
Rethugs are 👿
Rethugs must be eliminated:jason::jason::jason::jason::gate::omg::fist::fist:
With that said
❓ whatever :sheep: le
yay Fred is number one :nixon:
Well now Willy the Clintdork is tying Iran and AQ together ..
DLC demodorps are full of :crap:
DLC demodorps are 👿
DLC demodorps must be eliminated :jason::jason::jason::jason::gate::omg::fist::fist:
:banana::banana::banana:Its Susan :banana::banana::banana:
Yey… Susan is number 2
:jason::jason: DLC dems with Clinton :fu:
fence around the Mexican border is like posting a sign “Just say no to illegal immigration” and is going to be about as effective…(listening to Riley)
A Pakistani journalist says that his sources in al Qaeda and the Taliban are claiming that nuclear material has already been smuggled across the Mexican border into the U.S. and that an operation bigger than 9/11 will be carried out during Ramadan–which begins later this month.
Hamid Mir, who is the only journalist ever to interview both Osama bin Laden and Ayman al Zawahiri, claims that he learned this information on a recent trip to Afghanistan last month.
So, the guy does have a track record, but considering that he got the information from al Qaeda and the Taliban….well, these guys aren’t exactly reliable sources. So, yeah the headline is alarmist, but blame my editor and not me.
A man called Adnan Al-Shukri Jumaa (Juma, Jumah) is presently in the U.S. and has been assigned the task of detonating the nuclear material. The report does not say whether an actual nuclear bomb was smuggled in or only material to be used for a ‘dirty bomb’.
http://tinyurl.com/kk43o
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Fred holds left arm up to keep watch out of :crap:
read the comments at the link :eek::eek::eek:
C-span’s WJ is supposed to have the editor of Sceptics magazine on to discuss conspiracy theories about 911 this morning.. :eek::eek:
:::tapes dynamite to my own body to get it over with since I live in NY and am doomed anyway::::
I was watching the house immigration committee hearing on C-span earlier .. They were going to do so much to do nothing it made me almost :barf:
Real Player still hasn’t come up with that skin with a boot for a muste button .. :paranoid:
Clintdork is so full of :crap::crap::crap:
Slick Willy is like a cameleon he changes his line to fit the situation..He is talking to the Int Lion of Judah conference ..hence Hamas and Hazbollah are both evil..
DLC demodorps are full of :crap:
DLC demodorps are 👿
DLC demodorps must be eliminated :jason::jason::jason::gate::omg:
Republicans at each other’s throats over “what is permissible in trials and interrogations ”
http://tinyurl.co.uk/wc6i
I love to see them fighting amongst themselves… :jesus:
The Mexican immigrants need to organize a Hezbollah like group to send teams across the border to kidnap border guards then we could bomb Mexico :bf: :eek::eek::paranoid:
Boy oh boy Clintdork sure is full of :crap::crap::crap: at this conference. :paranoid:
“let’s play Israel” “Let’s not and say we did” :no:
do not eat bagged spinach…. e coli 😮
I find that leafy things in bags tend to turn green in the refrig whether they start out that way or not so I stick with stuff in cans and jars or things that are frozen 😮
I buy the commercial salad mixes in bags but I usually eat them within 24 hours of buying them – but you’re right, they don’t keep very well.
These rethug bloviators keep telling us how safe they are keeping us but then Jerkoff tells us it will cost to much to inspect everything that comes into the country.. I’m getting ready to :barf: again :eek::eek::eek:
I wonder if the RNC pays C-span to broadcast the faces of all these thugbots spewing :crap: in this period just before the election ??:jason::jason::jason::gate::omg::fist:
well you know they try to be fair, they’ll have some Dems on next. :rofl2::rofl2:
US warns Nicaraguans not to back Ortega
By Adam Thomson in Managua
The US ambassador to Nicaragua has issued a vigorous warning to this small Central American country’s electors against supporting Daniel Ortega, the veteran leftwing Sandinista leader and the frontrunner in November’s presidential election.
In a frank interview with the FT, Paul Trivelli said Mr Ortega was “undemocratic” and would roll back much of the advances made in recent years. And, underlining the concern felt in Washington about the regional influence of President Hugo Chávez of Venezuela, the ambassador said he had no doubt that Venezuela was playing an important role in the election.
“It’s one thing to be truly democratic. It’s another thing to do what the Sandinistas really have done, which is to distort and manipulate democracy for partisan and personal benefit,” Mr Trivelli said. “The fact that has been in charge of the Sandinista movement for 25 years or more gives you a clue about his democratic tendencies.”
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The US has had a long and – in many cases – unfortunate history in Nicaragua. During the 1980s it earned international criticism for its illegal funding of the so-called Contra war against Mr Ortega’s democratically elected administration.
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http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14840215
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The thugbots can’t have globalization if these leftists take over ..and… they might also nationalize the United Fruit Company so that the peasants can make a decent living.
:yuck::paranoid::jason::jason::jason::gate::omg::omg:
MEXICO CITY – From his protest camp in the Zocalo plaza, losing presidential candidate Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador calls for peaceful insurrection against an illegitimate government, but U.S. and Mexican officials fear his fiery rhetoric could incite violence that the former Mexico City mayor may not be able to control.
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Mexico already has a daily example of chaos and violence in the southern state of Oaxaca. There, striking teachers, leftist groups and perhaps even the EPR have taken over the capital’s downtown, trashed the state legislature, imposed their own rules, and detained government officials who resist them.
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In Mexico City, Lopez Obrador has announced a so-called national democratic convention this Saturday and has called on followers to anoint him either the legitimate president or civil resistance leader. The event could draw a million people, organizers say.
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Still, Lopez Obrador plans to give his own “cry” of independence at 11 p.m. Friday to mark the holiday from his sound stage in the massive plaza. If he does so, it would overlap Fox’s official “cry” on the balcony of the National Palace, some 50 yards away.
So far, protesters have avoided clashes with police, in part because Lopez Obrador’s Party of the Democratic Revolution, or PRD, runs the capital, and city authorities have openly supported his protest camps, including with government services.
more
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Hey you all have fun in Mexico .. hopefully it won’t go boom while you are there.:eek::eek::paranoid:
World Bank Lists Failing Nations That Can Breed Global Terrorism
By Karen DeYoung
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, September 15, 2006; Page A13
The number of weak and poorly governed nations that can provide a breeding ground for global terrorism has grown sharply over the past three years, despite increased Western efforts to improve conditions in such states, according to a new World Bank report.
“Fragile” countries, whose deepening poverty puts them at risk from terrorism, armed conflict and epidemic disease, have jumped to 26 from 17 since the report was last issued in 2003. Five states graduated off the list, but 14 made new appearances, including Nigeria and seven other African countries, Kosovo, Cambodia, East Timor, and the West Bank and Gaza. Twelve states, including Afghanistan, Somalia and Sudan, made both lists.
“Past international engagement with these countries has failed to yield significant improvements,” said the assessment released by the World Bank’s Independent Evaluation Group, which reports on the bank’s programs to the board of directors. It was timed to coincide with the annual meeting of the bank and the International Monetary Fund this month in Singapore.
Hurdles facing the countries at risk, often referred to as “failed” or “failing” states, include “weak security, fractured societal relations, corruption, breakdown in the rule of law, lack of mechanisms for generating legitimate power and authority” and limited investment resources to meet basic needs, the report said.
To avoid “adverse spillover effects — such as conflict, terrorism and epidemic diseases — the international community and the Bank need to find more effective ways” of assisting them, it said….
http://tinyurl.com/k9fed
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Humm they seem to have left out one major player .. Some place refered to as the SBR…:eek::eek::yuck::yuck::fustrate::fustrate::paranoid:
Troublesome dwarf planet named for strife goddess
Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:26 AM BST139
By Andy Sullivan
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The lonely rock at the edge of the solar system that caused Pluto’s downfall has been dubbed Eris after the Greek goddess of strife, astronomers said on Thursday.
“Eris caused strife and discord by causing quarrels among people and that’s what this one has done too,” said Mike Brown, the California Institute of Technology researcher who discovered the object in 2005.
http://tinyurl.com/eznqm
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Attention all of you witches and wickens ..please take note..:paranoid:
do not eat bagged spinach…. e coli
Comment by Susan Joy — September 15, 2006 @ 5:43 am
I find that leafy things in bags tend to turn green in the refrig whether they start out that way or not so I stick with stuff in cans and jars or things that are frozen
Comment by fred — September 15, 2006 @ 5:51 am
Popeye the Sailor and Fred. Enjoying canned spinach.
Two men ahead of their time.
:rofl2:
I tried to get a quote from Popeye concerning the spinach crisis, but he just muttered something unintelligible under his breath and walked away.
😮
Have gasoline prices in your areas decreased a lot ??..I keep hearing they are going down but they are still like 2.90 a gallon for unleaded regular here 😮
I paid 2.29 this week in St. Louis for regular.
Yeah Pope Benedict XVI seems to have ticked off half the planet and he never even knew the Bush family 😮
The states turning from red to blue must be being punished..:omg::paranoid:
Good Morning Blog Sibs! :joe:
Just a quick drive by. Al Gore in Syracuse last night. Raging Grannies sang environment songs outside while people were going in. :banana:There’s a little clip of us singing at the beginning of the segment & I’m the one in the background standing on a stool (I’m short). The clip won’t play in Firefox unless you have some ActiveX thingy installed.
Have a good day all! :pup::cat:
Rage On!:fist: Vigilance!:fist:
yeah, gas prices went down (I’m paying a few dollars less) but they still went up so high in the first place….
:pup::omg::pent::sdavid::tongue:
:tongue::sdavid::pent::omg::pup:
Is the Goddess summoning her worshippers??
Lizz Winstead will supposedly make an appearance at this free outdoor political event in Minnesota on Sunday:
http://walkforjustice.kintera.org/faf/help/helpEventInfo.asp?ievent=167886
New KPOJ Lineup
2A – 3A The Mark Riley Show
Former co-host of “Morning Sedition,” veteran newsman Mark Riley brings you a radio show full of news and analysis from a progressive point of view.
3A – 6A The Young Turks
It’s early morning energy from the Young Turks! Cenk Uyger, Ben Mankiewicz and Jill Pike host this politically edgy talk show. It’s smart! It’s funny! It’s free-wheeling! Perfect for the early riser…or the late night listener looking for a jolt!
6A – 9A Thom Hartmann and Heidi Tauber
AM 620 KPOJ features a brand new live, local morning show to its Progressive Talk line-up. Nationally syndicated talk host and best selling author, Thom Hartmann, hosts the KPOJ morning show weekdays from 6am-9am. Thom Hartmann comes to KPOJ from Vermont where he’s been hosting his own progressive talk radio show for the past two years. KPOJ listeners will know Thom from his days of filling in for Air America radio host, Randi Rhodes during the past few months. Hartmann is the award-winning, best-selling author of fourteen books currently in print in more than a dozen languages on four continents.
Joining Hartmann in the morning is veteran radio news anchor, Heidi Tauber. KPOJ has also added long-time radio news and talk show
producer, Paul Pimentel, to the morning program.
9A – 12P The Al Franken Show
This is the show that takes the fight against the conservatives to the airwaves! Al delivers daily irreverent commentary, comedy and interviews. Above all, the show will deliver the truth, in what Al calls the Zero Spin Zone.
Al Franken is a star in several mediums, having won five Emmy and two Grammy awards and he’s written four New York Times bestsellers. He also helped create a little television show called Saturday Night Live.
12P – 3P The Ed Schultz Show
“Big Ed” has won Marconi, Peabody and The Eric Sevareid Awards. All this from a former conservative who became a liberal (“but not a wacko liberal”) because “…I basically got out in the world…”
Ed Schultz has delivered 20 shares on KFGO/Fargo for the past 15 years. He considers himself “…a gun-toting, meat-eating lefty.”
3P – 6P The Randi Rhodes Show
Randi’s legendary South Florida talk show (WIOD/Miami and WJNO/West Palm) is the PMD anchor for KPOJ. The program features commentary, interviews, call-ins and Randi’s trademark candor.
Randi is one of the first female political talk show hosts in the country. She started her radio career in Seminole, Texas and honed her skills in Milwaukee, Dallas and New York. Surprising fact: Randi was voted “Most Outstanding Woman” in the US Air Force in 1979.
6p – 9p The Sam Seder Show
Weekday evenings, Sam Seder takes an admittedly jaundiced look at the day’s news, newsmakers, and the media. Sam is the co-author of “F.U.B.A.R. America’s Right-Wing Nightmare” and has served as director for Comedy Central’s “I’m With Busey.”
9p – 12a Thom Hartmann – Nationwide!
In addition to hosting the local KPOJ morning show with Heidi Tauber, Thom Hartmann goes nationwide with a 3 hour talk-fest! It’s the “No Boring Zone” as Thom takes on the progressive issues facing our planet!
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It’s not really liberal! It’s youthful in the stupid sense of the word! It’s named after an evil group that nobody should name themselves after! It’s the young turks! WoW :pup:
fucking hartman is stealing malloys spot then? or am i reading it wrong?
From AAR’s email news letter
Beginning September 18, 2006, radio powerhouse “The Young Turks” will bring a new sound and energy to the progressive airwaves as Air America Radio Network’s new morning drive-time program.
Hosts Cenk Uygur, Ben Mankiewicz and Jill Pike will move their popular politically based talk show to broadcast on the nationally syndicated Air America Radio Network and XM Satellite Radio. Recognized as Sirius Satellite Radio’s first original programming and the first live video web TV show.
5am-6am The Mark Riley Show
6am-9am The Young Turks
9am-12noon The Sam Seder Show
12noon-3pm The Al Franken Show
3pm-6pm The Randi Rhodes Show
6pm-8pm The Rachel Maddow Show
8pm-9pm “Politically Direct” w/ David Bender
9pm-10pm “Ecotalk” w/ Betsy Rosenberg
Emmanuel Abreu
ENG 301W
Dr. Newhouse
4/5/06
Social Control: At What Price, Order?
Recent events – none more infamous than the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 – have reawakened the debate over the timeworn question: “how far should the government go to preserve order?” Frequently, the role of torture is at the center of this debate but advances in biochemistry, pharmaceuticals, genetics, and technology are extending the boundaries of this discussion, creating a need to reexamine such ideas as liberty, security, and justice – and how they affect each other.
In the age of mass media, where every sensational crime or terrorist act is afforded 24-hour news coverage for weeks on end, the American public has been so inundated by images of violence, fear, and brutality that it is understandable if, to some, torture seems like a viable response to crimes against the men and women of this country. Understanding the consideration of torture, however, falls well short of accepting the implementation of torture. I am far from squeamish and have little sympathy for criminals, but institutionalized (i.e. state sponsored) torture is unacceptable – under any circumstance.
Michael Levin disagrees. In his 1982 Newsweek article “The Case for Torture,” which anticipated many of the post-9/11 arguments surrounding this complicated issue, Levin used hypothetical situations – seemingly the preferred method of drumming up support for torture – to convince readers that, in certain situations, torture is not only an option but an obligation. Despite the use of flawed logic, simplistic arguments, and the imposition of black/white, this/that boundaries on ideas whose real world embodiments will never be anything but grays and maybes, Levin did manage to touch upon the salient points of the debate. He claimed that “once you concede that torture is justified in extreme cases, you have admitted that the decision to use torture is a matter of balancing innocent lives against the means needed to save them” (Levin 503). And that really is the key to most arguments in favor or torture: ‘saving innocent lives.’
It has not been my impression that the average American favors torture as a punitive measure, or as a means to obtain confessions. Most of those that support the use of torture, like Michael Levin, do so only under the assumption that it would ‘certainly’ save many innocent lives (at least in theoretical situations) and that the tortured are “obviously guilty” (Levin 504). Reality, however, rarely ties such neat bows. In each of Levin’s hypothetical scenarios, the suspect – indisputably guilty – is caught or identified before his/her attack has come to fruition; bombs planted but not detonated, babies kidnapped but not harmed. Effectively, these are hostage situations, in which the terrorist is threatening an action if his demands are not met.
In this, the Levin article shows itself as dated. In the nearly quarter-century that has elapsed since its publication, the rules to terrorism have changed. ‘Give me this, or I’ll do this’ has been replaced by ‘Look what I did. See what you get’. The most recent terrorist attacks – from the U.S. Embassy bombings in Africa, through 9/11, up to the train attacks in Spain and London – have come largely without warning, although in the aftermath, the individuals or groups responsible are quick to take credit for their actions. The fact is, rarely, if ever, do authorities know who will be responsible for a crime before it has been committed. This fact makes it obvious that the use of torture would not have prevented the attacks of 9/11. However, while Levin’s scenarios might not translate so well into the world as we now know it, his question still stands: if torturing someone involved in the plot could have identified the hijackers before their attacks on 9/11, would it have been justified?
The resounding ‘yes’ that screamed through your head after reading that question is an understandable response. In fact, it is probably the nearly universal, initial reaction of the American people. It was my first response. But it’s wrong.
I will not pretend that the use of torture as a means to save lives is wrong for simple and obvious reasons and I certainly do not expect everyone to agree with me, or to be able to convince everyone that does not. I especially do not expect to do so while using such emotionally charged subject matter. However, in the same way that Levin aimed to use “extreme cases” to justify the use of torture in general, I mean to demonstrate that torture is wrong in principle and in deed, no matter how horrific the situation.
Before I go any further, I think it would be prudent to clarify a few things. First, I am not a prisoner’s rights advocate. Personally, I feel that, by breaking the law, criminals forfeit certain rights. I am not opposed to torture because it violates what rights that prisoners do have. It probably does, I just don’t care. Second, I am not going to claim that, if placed in Levin’s kidnapped newborn scenario, I would not want to torture anybody and everybody to learn the whereabouts of my child and ensure his/her safe return. Finally, I, personally, would have been willing to do anything to prevent the terrorist attacks of September 11. And I do mean anything. I would have released any prisoners, paid any ransom, withdrawn troops from any part of the world where their presence might not have been welcome, and/or closed our borders permanently if I thought it would have saved the lives of those victims and have kept such pain from their families. Before you think that I have contradicted myself, I want you to understand that there is a difference between what I expect from myself and other individuals, and what I expect from my government. Individuals can be impulsive, vengeful, reactionary, and emotional. Governments do not have that luxury, or at least they should not.
Unfortunately, the most valid arguments against using torture for good are also the most abstract. First among these arguments is the fact that government sanctioned torture, by flying in the face of our (the U.S.) professed principles, would drastically alter the very core of our democracy. I realize that this argument seems simultaneously an exaggeration and naïve. I might concede the latter.
It is a view frequently scoffed at these days, but I remain quite proud of, and believe fervently in, the principles that our nation was founded on. In the age of fixed(?) elections, preemptive wars, single party politics (Republicrats, anyone?), and warrant-free surveillance the ideals embodied by the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights seem to be regarded as quaint old notions, not fit for today’s ‘advanced’ society. I still believe that we as a nation have it within ourselves to be ‘the good guys’ and I readily admit that such faith might seem foolishly placed given our recent history.
As to the charge of exaggeration, I disagree, wholly. Some ideas are just un- American. Torture is one of them. Is it such a stretch to believe that if we alter our stance on such a controversial subject as torture that we would begin to rethink other long-held ideals? They are terrorists after all.
Well, for safety’s sake, what other concessions might we make? I’ve mentioned closing the borders. If they can’t get in, they can’t hurt us, right? No more sick, no more weary. You are no longer welcome here. But wait. What about the terrorists that are already here? Oh, that’s simple, they all look the same, round ‘em up and ship ‘em out (never-mind Oklahoma City, disgruntled former employees of the U.S. Government do not count). Citizenship be damned, there are lives at stake. We might also have to crack down on this whole freedom of religion thing, as well. If everyone were good Christians, we wouldn’t have these problems. And if someone does manage to pull off a terrorist attack, even after we’ve been so careful, we could always fall back on Hamurabai’s code. They attack us, we make a couple more parking lots in the Middle East. A little good-old-fashioned eye-for-an-eye justice ought to gentle the rest of the world down some. Force is all those people understand.
Now that I have demonstrated what it sounds like when I exaggerate, I ask you to look past my inflated rhetoric and to examine the ideas that I was discussing. Are closing the borders, expelling certain nationalities, imposing a state religion, and retaliating against civilians, if done in the name of saving innocent lives, really so much more awful than the idea of torture? No, they are not. They are all equally horrible. And they’re only the beginning.
Technologically speaking, the world is advancing at such a fast pace, that the ideas presented in books like Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World and Anthony Burgess’ A Clockwork Orange are no longer as far-fetched as they may have once seemed. Those novels, written in 1932 and 1962, respectively, envisioned a future in which it is possible to control how people behave, be it through genetic engineering (Brave New World) or behavioral modification experiments (A Clockwork Orange).Let’s focus on A Clockwork Orange as it relates a little more directly to what we have been discussing.
In A Clockwork Orange, the main-character, Alex – a very bad egg – is a career criminal who, by the age of fifteen, has committed such atrocities as rape and murder. Eventually, Alex’s crimes catch up with him and he is sent to prison. While imprisoned, scientists use Alex as a test-subject, in their attempts to transform a violent criminal into a being incapable of harming others. Their efforts prove to be a ‘success’. When subjected to an unprovoked attack, Alex finds himself compelled to do anything but strike back. After his offer of his knife, as a token of good will, is rebuffed, Alex resolves to “get down and lick [the boots of his attacker]” (Burgess 248). Alex is reformed, made safe and fit to be a member of society. By changing his nature – if it is in fact his nature, but that is a separate and lengthy subject on its own – from that of a murderer to someone that cannot hurt others the scientists have undoubtedly saved the lives of his future victims. Although this may not be a possibility yet, it, or something like it, will be soon. Will it be justified?
As I’m sure you can probably guess, I don’t think so. I offered its effect on other principles as one of the reasons that state sanctioned torture is unacceptable. My other reason is that it is just wrong. Like closing the borders, expelling immigrants, imposing a state religion, and scientifically altering a person’s ability to choose, torture is wrong; not because of its negative effects, not because of the rights of the tortured, and not because it wouldn’t work. It is wrong just because. Unless, we have become so results oriented as a society that “we are not concerned with… the higher ethics. We are concerned only with cutting down crime” ( Burgess 248). I sincerely hope that we have not.
:barf:friggin eco-talk i loathe that show i cant believe they are making it nightly
actually i cant lie its very believable:nod:
So Karl Rove is gonna be here in Phx on Sept 29 :growl::jason::hubba:
:pup:now that the young turks left sirius they will have the cash to pick up malloy!
are you gonna go :yuck: on him krista?
No, no no Sean, Rove will be recieved here in Phoenix with banners and signs. I don’t think I could get close enough to :barf: anyways.
Hey! Its time for Will and Willie guys…Im getting pretty depressed about the state of things what will the government falling apart and Ford elimating so many jobs….spinach is killing people….
But I set up my vitamin business yesterday and hope to be online with it in a week or so.
I went to a talk last night about cleansing and balancing ourselves….how all these hydrogenated screwed up fast foods are effecting us and our kids, and its really scary.
Alot of i was stuff that I already knew and Mom rasied me on healthfood and healthy eating, thank God…but it just scares the hell out of me when I see the statistics for disease in ths country and see how many of the people I know who are suddenly inexplicably sick…even people who do the right things…
And Will is out there in the rain somewhere….in a cabin overnight. I sorta miss him….not that Ive had a chance to be here or relax at all.
The furnace water system is bursting a pipe…I just caught it before it shot all over the basement.
:rofl2:The 51 Funniest Things about 9-11
:rant1:Off With Their Heads Democrats walk themselves to the gallows. Matt Taibbi
Im not so wild about that Beast mag….Maybe its not my kind of humor or presentation…Im just dont like it much.
the quake stream quit for me and won’t reload :rant1: may have to podcast this puppy.
some thoughts from Americablog.org: (there’s more at the website)
A question for Disney/ABC: Are Christo-fascists better than Islamo-fascists?
by John in DC – 9/15/2006 12:14:00 AM
Just curious if one breed of religious extremism is considered worse than the other because one guy is white and the other is brown. Or are fascists only fascists when they’re non-Americans?
* Was the Inquisition really kinder and gentler than Al Qaeda terrorism?
* Was Hitler the Christian really a better guy than Osama the Muslim?
* When Christian conservatives quoted the Bible to justify racism (and let’s not even talk about lynchings in the south, since I’m sure the lynchers were probably all Muslims), were those Christians any better than Osama citing the Koran to justify violence?
* In the grand scheme of things, should blacks consider themselves lucky they only had to endure 300 years of slavery rather than the unthinkable burden of having to turn in your lip gloss at the airport?
* Were Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson any better than the 9/11 hijackers when they said that America brought September 11 on itself?
* When religious right leaders call the prophet Mohammad a pedophile, and Islam a religion of hate, how does that make them more tolerant than radical Islamists who hate all Christians?
* When Christian right followers murder American abortion providers is that less wrong than when Islamic right followers murder American tourists?
* Is Fred Phelps really a nicer guy than Mohammad Atta? Was Timothy McVeigh?
ok, I hear Marc! :ear:
What time did Marc start? My fucking father called exactly at the moment to ask me about the Roomba…fuck!
Did he start at :06?
PJ,are you taping this?…ah, hes doign the same bits. I wish he’d mix it up.
Wow…re: 29, 30…..Gas has JUST gone down to $2.99 here. Last week the CITGO by the bird store, which is the cheapest had gone down (and at their height they are at $3.39, when the rest were $3.59….
Suddenly, yesterday they all dropped to $2.99, which I saw coming because Citgo had gone down to $2.89…Today, Im expecting it to be aorund $2.59-ish over there. They have a thing in the paper that quotes the gas prices all around town and usually the Citgo over there is the cheapest. Then the ones on the highway are usually pretty low, but they are MObile….and they still are way above this.
The other Citgos which are further uptown int he fancy area are gouging…..
Even though Chavez is stopping providing cheap gas in the US pretty soon, it hasnt shown here…or the gouging is so deep that we would accept anything as a break.
Ive been spending over $100 per week on gas….Im trying to do less driving.
Marc!:banana::pup:
Melina!:banana::banana::pup:
I wonder how its supposed to work, if the state health care fo children cant provide any providers within 1.5-2 hours of this area…how the poor people are supposed to get good health care from specialists for their kids. How do they pay for gas?
The Citgo guys now have had to institute a thing where if you dont pay by credit card you have to pay in advance in cash insie…because people were getting gas and driving away. The guy was saying that people are just so desperate and that they cant afford gas to get to work.
Meantime, I guess that the message is that we are all supposed to bring our kids to the overburdened hospital clinic….
Im starting to believe that Hartmann is absolutely right in Screwed….because these are middle class people.
hey, sblue….I need to take a shower because I have a broken pipe int he bathroom and the repair guy is coming at noon….
sorry…that was basement….so Im wondering how long marc is gonna be on….
I feel like Im getting sick…maybe from the lecture last night about how unwell we all are….
I want the marc maron show back….How is this supposed to work out….no funny on radio forever?….The sorta comedy of Sam and Randi’s skits are supposed to be it?
just ended…I am just waking up:joe::yawn:
then here but working on taxes!:joe::yawn::yawn:
I taped a portion of it…
I guess that if Marc doesnt have writers to work with every day, he relies on his bits…but he is so quick on his feet you would think that a million things would come up from all of the material pouring out of the government.
Though, I have a ton of material and am just too busy to write it up RE: my blog….As soon as I spend the time writing other stuff, Ive used my time to write politics or blog or clean the house or fix my page and get my vitamin businss up and running….much less my grant requests.
Hey, does anyone know where to get good templates for grant requests…? I need a pretty benign request format because the place that Im writing to doesnt have a set form…so I need a format.
M
I missed the beginning because My dumbo father was goin on about how huge his house is and how he needs so many roombas….ugh….he should try living here in basically one room…..
I wonder why Marc cant get a show on the Quake?
I see grant writing stuff at our University bookstore…maybe B&N?
i just successfully loaded that podbridge software ( couldn’t get it on the laptop though) so should get the show later today in full. Maybe I could send it to you Melina..
Anyone seen Travis?:paranoid::shock::eek:
wtf! marc where?
well, no water now…OK…the guy is fixing it.
He was on last night before I got home…but gone by the time I said Hi…I think…i
looks like Ney is pleading guilty to criminal charges related to his dealings with Abramoff. another rethug going DOwnnnnnnn :banana:
:doh:springer said till next week but next week sam takes his place i’m confussed!
OH HERON, I’m so glad someone else is working on taxes. I’m miserable doing them at the moment. :knit2: thanks for the company. :alc:
seanie, I think we’re all confused. :billcat:
PJ posted the link ^ for the podcast to hear marc if you just missed him.
:paranoid:my dad works at ford
Yeah I meant to say something the other day…FK I am such a procrastinator I can’t seem to get stuff together for an accountant.
Estimated due today:barf:
So Seanie how are you!
When do you hit the road again?
i hit the road again 16 hours ago:wink:
Seanie- safe travels:gate:
:fire:
:pup:
has anyone done this with wifi sharing? looks cool, especially for you heavy duty traveling folks OR to make money!
Happy Trails Sean!
ok back to work. :knit: :spank:
That Fon thing looks pretty good…though Im so far out in the country I dont know if I could really give back…but I will look into it.
Seanie, AAR syndication is still gonna offer Jerry, and Im sure that some markets will pick him up, though who knows what slot they’ll put him in.
The mornings will be a ton better for people who can actually hear the channel in the car…damn AAR that they are on such a weak signal.
I wouldnt even know which local station might carry it if tere were one to call and ask for it….Ill have to have mom figure it out because she scans every radio station.
What really, really pisses me off about the way AAR is touting The Young Turks–all that stuff about the show bringing something different to progressive talk, like energy and edgy political commentary–is that AAR HAD such a show, dammit. :growl: It was called Morning Sedition. AAR management, this :fu: is for you. Bastards!
Marc on Will & Willie today. MP3, about 5 megs, 21 minutes. Also linked on the sidebar under multimedia.
:bf: the young turds.
ditto this:
melina, we’re out in the country, too so have the same question. i like the idea, though.
thanks, pj!
Friggin’ Liebermann.
:pup:ted kennedy
😮Semtex on a Plane
:fustrate::knit2:
yay someone else is here!
yay 2 live crew!
:nixon:im going to see little miss sunshine!
YAY!
I’m done with MY part (unless she tells me she needs something else :paranoid: )
:banana: :40:
WHERE are you Seanie? Do you think you dad will be hit by this ford thing?
Heron must still be fighting her paper :cat:
Have a good laugh Seanie sean!:grin:
Dear Oregon Friends of Into the Blue:
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Remember, Portland contributions to ITB’s Federal account will go toward the $15,000 needed to create the voter ID Data base in Boone County. Read the attached Washington Post article on recent Republican GOTV efforts in Rhode Island to understand why it is so urgent that Boone County begin building this database now.
It’s easy, and what’s more, ActBlue allows us all to access the fundraising pages of people raising money for the same thing—let’s watch our community grow!
Onward,
Lise
Congratulations FK :nod:I’m off to mail the estinmated then it is Turbo Tax hell for the next 3 weeks:spank:
Guess I’ll have to go look for travis at the moon…:no:
I see that David Wu and Brian Baird both voted for Rep. King’s grandstanding resolution, which is little more than an endorsement of the Patriot Act. WTF was that all about? No spine.
So, given the poor primary showing by Tasini, does Hillary have the greenlight to pursue the Democratic nomination for president in 2008? “Well this shows that the peace movement is dead. We need a real politiker like our gal Hillary as a candidate.”
the only person the republicans have that can maybe beat hillary in 08 is mccain and that is a maybe well in my roommates opinion anyway
Good, Heron, glad you got your estimated mailed at least. I can’t wait to get the things actually sent off. We WILL get there! :gate:
i’m off to a neighbors for a :alc:
OH! the donkey had her hooves trimmed today and her toes are so pretty she told me she wants some open-toed sandals to show them off! :santacool:
have fun with trav if you find him. (Oh, and I loved everything is illuminated – sammy davis jr. jr. :rofl2: )
PJ, you read my mind, posting the podcast page, thank you!! Can we get quake radio to just turn the Willie show to Marc? If only.
I won’t make it to the Punchline this weekend; anyone else in SF going to the Punchline this weekend? Give Marc a big hello from ex-ny’er. :cat: Wow, some new emoticons since last time I checked in, thank you PJ! :cat::bf::pup:
don’t know how i double posted…but i did so here’s the edit. :doh:
i lived with this currency converter today.. it’s pretty good if anyone needs one. http://www.xe.com/
Bosses take aim at undocumented workers:
http://www.counterpunch.org/sustar09152006.html
McCain vs. Hillary! What a choice we have. Who’s for moving to Canada?
Tony Judt explains it all to you:
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n18/judt01_.html
One of the best goddamm things I’ve read in six years. :sammy:
Good article by Judt. Succintly covers the problems we struggle with. I have a book to suggest, which looks into the Democrats contribution to the malaise. Chomsky: The New Military Humanism. Common Courage Press: 1999.
:pup:
I need to look for that one…
McCain vs. Hillary! What a choice we have. Who’s for moving to Canada?
Comment by NickiRose — September 15, 2006 @ 4:54 pm
Only if they outlaw snow.
Mike Malloy Update
UPDATE
No big news to report as this week comes to a close, and Mike has no scheduled upcoming guest radio appearances to announce. He was, however, just interviewed by salon.com about an article they’re writing re: Air America radio past, present, and future. We haven’t been told the publication date.
Speaking of which, we will share all the details of our personal experiences with Air America once our financial and other mutual business issues are resolved; hopefully sooner rather than later. You deserve to know the truth and as you would imagine, there’s quite a story to tell.
We now have three potential radio opportunities to consider and are cautiously optimistic that we’ll be back on the air soon. Can’t wait to talk with you all again! Your supportive email and calls and petitions are being noticed and just might hasten our return to radio.
Many thanks and have a great weekend Truthseekers!
Watch you back,
Malloys
http://www.mikemalloy.com/
We now have three potential radio opportunities to consider and are cautiously optimistic that we’ll be back on the air soon. Can’t wait to talk with you all again!
Yay!!!!
The “watch your back” thing that Malloy always says seems really appropriate to his (and Air America’s) current situation 🙁
Canda’s beautiful – I love it up there. Hell, we get more snow here. Gets a bit colder, but it’s all about what you get used to. Give me cold over hot and humid any day.
Wow, the Malloy petition has over 15,000 sigs.
Last broadcast of The Majority Report. Janeane is to be on tonight. Oh, and Sam gave clues that it was Jones Radio :sammy: that spread the rumor that AAR was going bankrupt.
My daughter’s in McGill in Montreal – a great city – In spite of the shooting this week!!
But seriously, reasonable rents, great restaurants, everything that makes a place livable – if it wasn’t for the snow, they’d have a huge problem with overpopulation.:sammy:
I tried five different times to sign the malloy petition, spent an hour or two going over every signature to find mine (yeh, I know, ocd), but that was back when it was at around 8,000 signatures. I gave up. :fustrate:
A good friend of mine suggested starting a letter writing campaign to get Pacifica radio to hire Malloy. I love the idea, but I doubt Mike and Kathy and Molly could live on less money that what they’re getting not working for aar 😮
Hey, I just caught sight of Malloy’s update, lemme post this and go read his update…:knit:
Video: FOX, CNN reports focus on Cuban billboards painting Bush as ‘bloodsucking’ vampire or Hitler
http://tinyurl.com/nhw3s
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:paranoid::jason::jason::jason::jason:
Woah, before I forget, anyone got any suggestions, how can I contact Doug on Staten Island? I grew up there, and am going home there next month. I love my folks, but SI is the vastest wasteland of Rethug hell stuck into NYC, and I could use some sane friendly contact while I tiptoe around ‘politics’ with my beloved fambly. Any suggestions? :joe:
Summit of Non Aligned Nations = Summit of Countries Who Hate America. Gee whiz. Que sorpresa, more Cuba and Venezuela bashing. A la gran puta, como dicen mis amigos Salvatruchas. Fox, CNN = hueputas cabrones. 👿
HAMBURG, Sept. 14 (Xinhua) — The EU replaced the United States as China’s biggest trading partner last year, said Xu Kuangding, chairman of the China Federation of Industrial Economics (CFIE) on Thursday.
As one of the keynote speakers at the opening of a Sino-European economic summit, Xu said Sino-European trade, with a volume of 217.3 billion U.S. dollars, has exceeded the Sino-U.S. trade volume by some 5.7 billion dollars.
http://tinyurl.com/ok6ba
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The corporatist/globalists strike again:gate::omg::jason::jason::jason::jason::jason:
A convenience store videotape long-sought by September 11 conspiracy theorists does not actually show the attack on the Pentagon, RAW STORY has learned.
Many believed the video would show American Airlines Flight 77 — or something else — striking the Pentagon. The videotape, which depicts views from the gas station’s six security cameras, shows that the CITGO cameras did not seem to capture the actual attack.
Video clip at the link
http://tinyurl.com/osvg4
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No pictures of the cruise missile so far ..:crap::crap:
Ok, y’all, I’m off to the gym, where I can watch last night’s Daily Show and Colbert Report on the tv. Peaches. :rant1:
NYPD okays permit for anti-war march to UN during Bush visit
RAW STORY
Published: Friday September 15, 2006
The New York Police Department has reversed its position and will now allow an anti-war group to march to the United Nations during President Bush’s visit next week.
“On Thursday United for Peace and Justice (UFPJ), the nation’s largest antiwar coalition, learned it would be given a permit for a peaceful antiwar protest march in New York City to coincide with President Bush’s visit to the United Nations,” states a UFPJ press release received by RAW STORY.
http://tinyurl.com/s7dk3
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I hope the turn out is impressive.
Some Eastern UPJ chapters were calling for a march even if permission was not granted.:eek:
Hey Krista
MoveOn.Org needs help finding office space in AZ
I got a lot of help here already finding spaces in Fort Lauderdale and in NY so I am going to try it again.
What we are looking for is spaces in both Tucson and in Scottsdale (or at least in the 5th district somewhere)we need the spots to be at least 600sq feet because they will be used for training volunteers for the “Call for Change” campaign with a focus on the 5th and the 8th.
In Tucson I heard that there were a lot of spaces on congress street and it might be as easy as driving past a few windows and writing down phone numbers. In Scottsdale we have almost no leads at all.
Thanks ahead of time,
Chris
I don’t think Pacifica/Pacifist radio would like what Malloy has to say.
:jason::jason::jason::jason::gate::omg::bf:
Hey everyone….Im drinking a vodka and seltzer….The rain and the president got to me.
Hey, if you want to upload images and have picture galleries, you can do so here. You’ll have to register (my advice, use the same username and password you use here), and, please, no porn, copyrighted material, or anything else that will get me nagged over, OK?
Malloy had 15,000 sigs while Morning Sedition had 6,000 on the petition. I don’t know what to make of that but that AAR mgmt is getting progressively stupider.
Seder said he will change the music bumpers on his new show.
RIP, Majority Report.
As I crank up hills on my new road bike to get the bad vibes out of my system.
Hurricane LANE
http://tinyurl.com/pmtah
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When was the last time Phoenix or Elpaso had a hurricane ??:eek::eek:
So does that mean I can’t upload the frolicking bananas?:bf:
Ok, OK I will upload a pic of my dead cat Scout…:cat:
BREAKING: Maron on Sam Seder Show every Friday morning!
I think I just heard Seder say that Maron will join him on his show on Fridays!! Did anyone else hear that? 😀
Ok I made several attempts to upload images do they need to be in photobucket or something?
Um, I think I need to edit my pic, and I think I put it in the wrong category:doh: Oh, well.
Are you an animal?
I can’t get anything to stick!
just make sure that both the thumbnail and the image file are correctly filled in
Wow!…maron for the whole sho or just a segment?
Its such good news that Marc is keeping his hand in!
A bit of good news in the wilderness.
You don’t need to fill in the thumbnail, but you do have to give it a name.
oh, well, there you have it, then:doh:
Wow! when was that taken, H!
how do I edit my profile, PJ?
It was supposed to be an image of my cat!:cat::cat:
I am using explorer..doesn’t work with safari!
:rant1::rant1::rant1::mad:
I want my email address to disappear, too
Click on the control panel link when you’re logged in, and where it says “show my e-mail” select “no.”
thanks, man:fist: later, peeps
You can delete your picture, if you want. Click on it, and click delete.
PJ-my images are rejected because the width and height is wrong….whats the setting? Do I have to go back to photoshop and resize some of em?
Ok I give up…
:bf:
Yeah, they need to be 1024 X 1024 or less, and less than a meg in size. If you look at the upload form, it tells you.
And furthermore Seditionists is spelled wrong!
:rant1::knit2::fustrate:
I can tweak the settings a bit, if needed. I just kinda put this up quick and dirty, and haven’t played with it much. Registered members can collect their favorites (via th elightbox), and even send an “ecard” with an image.
So I can only upload photos taken by Grandpa?:smack:
Um, I dunno. None of my pix were taken by grandpa.
The only ones I can upload are ones I stole from my cousin’s website!!
Not very mac-friendly I guess
Try renaming one to give it a file extension (e.g., rename photo to photo.jpg). It checks for acceptable file extensions to avoid people uploading nasty things. That’s the problem with Macs – they’re so goshdarn much better and easier to use.
:no:
I’m gonna meet up with Travis to see a flick..:alc:
:pup:
Vatican says pope did not intend to offend sensibilities of Muslims
By John Thavis
Catholic News Service
VATICAN CITY (CNS) — The Vatican responded to a wave of Muslim indignation over recent remarks by Pope Benedict XVI, saying the pope did not intend to “offend the sensibilities of Muslim faithful.”
Some of the strongest criticism of the pope came from Islamic leaders in Turkey, where the pontiff is scheduled to travel this fall. Church officials said Sept. 15 that there were no immediate plans to cancel or postpone the papal trip.
Vatican officials invited Muslim leaders to read the full text of the papal address, saying it would make clear that the pope was speaking in favor of all religions and not against Islam. . .
the pope sucks
Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.
The emperor goes on to explain in detail the reasons why spreading the faith through violence is something unreasonable. Violence is incompatible with the nature of God and the nature of the soul.
God is not pleased by blood, and not acting reasonably is contrary to God’s nature. Faith is born of the soul, not the body.
:jesus:
I think the reaction is largely political. I have nothing to gain on either side, though. I know that The Whitehouse is not fond of the Vatican because of their opposition to US policies in Central America. The People Option.
yeah..well there is a political element
Full Text:
http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=46474
:priest:
I’m sending this to Judy…she didn’t know the pope thing
Read full text. I perused some of the Turkish media today. Benedict is planning a visit to Turkey. (Reconciliation with Byzantine Church?)
One writer wrote that Cardinal Ratzinger had opposed Turkey’s entrance into the EU. Now that would be interesting to investigate.
Did she get the Jeff Cohen stuff?
yeah…was just on the phone earlier talking about it
Here is a BBC summary at the time Cardinal Ratzinger became Pope Benedict:
ISTANBUL
The election of Cardinal Ratzinger to the papacy has been greeted with dismay in the newspapers of Turkey.
Many of them report remarks that the new Pope made last year, stating his opposition to Turkey’s membership of the EU and his suggestion that the country was better suited to join with Arab countries.
“The new pope is an adversary of Turkey,” runs one headline. “The new pope was Turkey’s last choice,” reads another. “Anti-Turkish Cardinal elected Pope,” runs a third.
Pope Benedict is described as being known for his anti-Turkish views on the strength of a forthright interview he gave a French newspaper last August.
Then, he said that EU membership for Turkey would be a cultural loss for Europe in return for economic benefit.
Turkey, he said, sees itself as a secular state, but is actually an Islam-based country.
It should, he said, try to establish links with Arab countries.
The pope, of course, does not have a direct role in European decisions on who gets membership.
But Turkey’s opinion-formers at least appear convinced that Cardinal Ratzinger’s elevation to the papacy is bad news for Turkey’s hopes of joining the EU.
Jonny Dymond
Turkey, he said, sees itself as a secular state, but is actually an Islam-based country.
Hmm…is it possible there are other reasons not stated here? I’m willing to bet…
Prefect of the Vatican’s Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, recently told French newspaper Le Monde that Turkey would be better served finding its place among Muslim nations, not in a European Union (EU) whose roots are deeply Christian.
Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan responded to Ratzinger’s comments while on a two-day visit to Georgia. “The Vatican is a religious state. We are speaking to and making evaluations with EU member countries,” said Erdogan.
German-born Ratzinger’s interview in Le Monde defends that Turkey should seek its future among Islamic organizations, not in Christian rooted EU. The Cardinal indicated that Turkey will always be a contradiction for Europe. He reminded that the Ottomans were at the gates of Vienna and waged war in the Balkans.
Ratzinger emphasized that it would be a mistake to equate the two continents [Europe and Asia] because it would sacrifice their richness and culture for the sake of economic benefits.
ZAMAN August 13, 2004
No wonder they sprung on his ass.
yeah let’s keep this gig Christian. And those damn Turks are probably a bit too dark for our taste also…you know.
I am wondering what Benedict’s motivations are for opposing Turkey’s entrance into the EU? Why should that make any difference to him?
Did you know that Pope John XXlll was the Prefect for the Roman Catholic Church in Turkey?
I don’t know … he could have political motivation that I’m not aware of…
This makes me want to do a study of the Vatican’s attitude towards modern Turkey. All that “at the gates of Vienna” stuff should be contextualized. I mean, damn! The Ottomans are not the same as the secular Turkish Republic. In Turkish, pope is papa.
I think more info on the topic would be good, yeah. there’s something here I’m just not catching in why he’s saying this
Does he fear another invasion? Turks live in many European countries today. Gast Arbeiter. Even Germany. Is that the reason why church attendance is in decline in Europe? The current Nation has a very thorough book review on a book about the Rise and Fall of the Ottoman Empire.
I need to learn more on the topic (History of Turkey) in general
Cardinal Ratzinger, who presides over the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, said Europe is united by its “culture which gives it a common identity. The roots which formed … this continent are those of Christianity.”
that just sounds really intolerant, I’m sorry
Cardinal Ratzinger was a representative of John Paul ll. This probably means that Ratzinger’s position on Turkey’s admission is the same as that of the late John Paul.
Did you watch Syriana?
not yet
Are you listening to AAR now. Clip of Bush arguing for his torture amendment. He was forceful. Serious. Not his usual intellectually-challenged self. Scary.
I know… he’s not articulate really but he seems dead serious. I really beieves in torture
You know, I try to stay away from trashing the Catholic Church for the hell of it. I am not going to start now. But I am going to look into this EU/reject Turkey stuff.
You know, I am so friggin sick and tired of religion and all the trouble it’s caused that I think it should be banned from public places like the bad habit that it is. I’m done with breathing in other peoples’ second hand religion, MAN!
:menorah::yinyang::priest::sdavid::rabbi::jesus::cres::gate::pent::om:
Bush was clear. He did not stutter or stumble. No messages from Rove through the box taped to his back.
We are talking politics here.
I don’t trash organized religions but if there are shitty things done in
the name of religion I’m going to call them on it…
as far as messages from Karl Rove…I’m hearing that Rove doesn’t always have the same influence he had back in the day…there was an interesting news article about that recently. In any case this may be an issue Bush just happens to feel strongly about. I don’t know if that makes me feel better.
Rove is a sleazy political operator. I was just trying to make the point that Bush is usually stumbling and ignorant in his speech. Not this time. Forceful. Clear. :omg: But neocon wrong.
trying to decide what I think of John Elliot…
So, did I hear Sam say today that Marc would be on his show as a regular Friday call in? Did I hallucinate that?? That could suck for me because Sam is going to be on when our local, Dr. Mike is on so guess who wins. I’m gonna miss Sam, I’ve really enjoyed listening to him at drive time.
No hallucinating, I read it here also Krista…I’m just giving up on AAR on a “regular radio” I’m just going to stream it when I can. I don’t want to listen to Armstrong Williams (who is on WWRL) in the car in the morning 🙁
I like Jon Elliot as a host. Very mainstream Democrat liberal, though.
I need to listen to him more…he seems ok so far
To the eastern shore of the Aegean the story of the Jews during the Second World War was very different. Despite being an Islamic nation, many Turkish consular diplomats working in Europe tried to issue Jews visas to Turkey so that they might escape the local Nazis. 15,000 Jews alone were rescued in France by Turkish intervention, and were allowed, with the minimum of red tape, to cross the border into Turkey. A significant number went on to Palestine. The Turkish government refused Nazi demands that Jews be rounded up and sent to the concentration camps in Europe. The Vatican’s wartime envoy in Istanbul, Msgr. Angelo Roncalli, who was later to become Pope John XXlll, worked tirelessly to rescue eastern European Jews. It is the Turkish effort to rescue Jews from Nazi Europe that may give a small clue as to why Turkey and the modern state of Israel have such a close relationship. This is a unique relationship between a Jewish and an Islamic state.
That is interesting…
Jon Elliot is kinda boring. AAR is getting rid of all the passion. They suck. Charles Goyette talked about how Air America tried to get him at the very beginning but the suit he was talking to isn’t there anymore. I forget why he didn’t take it. But he was saying that Franken stopped taking calls because he was getting blistered by callers and I don’t remember that happening hardly at all. I listened to AAR from 5 AM till at least 5 PM weekdays for the first 9 months on KPOJ and I just kinda thought he stopped taking calls so he could run the tape of O’Really and that guy from Portland taking him down about being in the military and to talk more to his wonky friends.
well the Young Turks is passionate….jusssssst kidding. :(:hot::smack:
I don’t want to get into a lemon squeeze, but I don’t find Elliot’s style boring. I had a friend from KBOO Radio (Jacques) who loved Franken’s show from the beginning. He called in, waited for 2 hours, and got on the air only to hear Franken say, “Thank you for calling. Bye.” This was in the early days.
The Young Turks are too conservative politically.
Franken is not a take-phone-call person. Not his thing. He’s good in lots of other ways, though. Very good with issues and very personable, and his good guests. Guess your friend was pissed off, though…
Jacques then became a fan of Ed Schultz.
:tongue: ok…
St. Maron was a mystic who started this new ascetic-spiritual method that attracted many people in Syria and Lebanon to become his disciples. Accompanying his deeply spiritual and ascetic life, he was a zealous missionary with a passion to spread the message of Comedy by preaching it to all he met. He sought not only to cure the physical ailments that people suffered, but had a great quest for nurturing and healing the “lost souls” of both pagans and Christians of his time. Jews, too.
After his death in the year 410 AD, his spirit and teachings lived on through his disciples. Today we are legion.
:rofl2::rabbi:
:banana::sdavid::pent:
looking at what you sent me in the mail… :sdavid::pent:
The Rose of Maron is a flower of uncertain identity mentioned in English language translations of the Bible. The word in question is the Hebrew shekinshahkusj, which has been uncertainly linked to the words shmnskibe el, meaning ‘bulb’, and ??? ?a¯ma?, which is understood as meaning either ‘pungent’ or ‘splendid’ (The Analytical Hebrew and Chaldee Lexicon). The name first appears in 1611, when it was used in the King James Version of the Bible. According to an annotation at Song of Solomon 2.1 by the translation committee of the New Revised Standard Version, this is a mistranslation of the Hebrew word for “crocus”. Different scholars have suggested that the biblical “Rose of Maron” …
:priest::sdavid:
Which movie? Did you ever get the tape filled with vintage RS Rock videos?
hehe. I should put that in my encyclopedia
I just got one today but I didn’t play it yet.
The name of the movie should be written on the tape.
don’t have that one
Between 1869 and 1870, Bakunin became involved with the Russian revolutionary Sergey Nechayev in a number of clandestine projects. However, Bakunin broke with Nechaev over what he described as the latter’s “Jesuit” methods, by which all means were justified to achieve revolutionary ends
Which one came today?
just says NR
Fast forward it to the other stuff.
Throughout history, religious dissidents have often concealed their inner convictions, in order to avoid the unpleasant social or legal consequences of departing from the majority opinion. Whether to avoid outright persecution, or merely to avoid social stigma, there is always pressure to maintain common opinions and practices.
In Ways of Lying, Perez Zagorin focuses upon an important theme: the incongruity between the inner beliefs and outward actions of persons who do not accept the dominant religious views of their surrounding culture. In this connection, the author discusses Jews dwelling within medieval Christendom, Protestants living within popish nations (and vice-versa), peculiar “Christian” sects, occultists, and skeptics.
oh wait it says “franken” and “pollack” on it too
We enter Elizabethan era, where the English political and ecclesiastical settlement forced Roman Catholics to conform to Anglican worship, or risk prosecution. This was a time when Jesuits began sending secret missionaries into England, in an effort to reclaim England for the papacy. Test oaths were instituted to flush out Papists, who were regarded as enemies of the state.
people can be more open today about being different in a religious sense – though maybe I just say that because I’m from a tolerant area
Zagorin’s account clearly demonstrates the insidious nature of Jesuitical reasoning. In fact, the Jesuit methods of deceit became so notorious, that other Roman Catholic authors spoke out against Jesuit sophistry. Blaise Pascal wrote a stinging satire, The Provincial Letters, in which he targeted the Jesuits. Zagorin observes, “The brilliant wit and outstanding literary qualities of Pascal’s satire achieved an enduring success in convincing the world of the laxity of Jesuit moral teaching”
Who uses torture to get the dissemblers to talk straight?
:jerk::pent::sdavid:
I was obsessing over the use of “jesuit” as a synonym for sophistry. Bakunin used it. Dostoyevsky probably did too. Jesuitical methods.
I don’t know much about Jesuits. Jewish upbringing kind of kept me out of a lot of those things
Did you see The Excorcist?
I did and I read the book as well
What was the name of the priest/protagonist?
Ottoman Ghosts
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060925/lazare
Father Merron :omg:
Forgive me father Maron, for I have sinned…
good historical piece
I’ll be back in a couple of minutes
Damian Karras.
ok
oh yes, the other priest
What was the name of Father Karras’s order?
I’m not that good… ❓
Jesuit
Thanks, Heron. Goodnight:peace:
Jesuits got a reputation, perhaps unfairly, for being sly and jesuitical for the work they did in their early days. Their mission was to bring European countries back into the Catholic fold. Anyway, Damian Karras, SJ, was a highly educated psychiatrist. He was conflicted because, being a priest in a religious order, he did not have the money that psychiatrists normally accrue, and therefore not able to pay to support his aging mother.
What does SJ stand for?
something about joy… 😉
Damian Karras, S.J.
:rabbi:
Oh you quit on me.
I’m sleepy… 🙁
SJ may refer to:
* Smack Jeeves, a Webcomic hosting website.
* Shonen Jump, an Anime and Manga Magazine, Published by VIZ Media.
* Society of Jesus, from its Latin name, Societas Iesu. Jesuits will sometimes put the letters “S.J.” after their names to indicate membership in the religious order.
* Soul-Junk, a Christian hip-hop musical group.
* Sozialistische Jugend, the youth group of the Social Democratic Party of Germany and Social Democratic Party of Austria;
* Spanking Susan Joy Shemanski
not spankee
Spanker.
I’m feeling particularly dominating
extremely sleepy also though. Odd combination.
iyi geceler.
iyi uyumak olsun.
translate, I can’t get Turkish on altvista babelfish translator
Bu ister kisin battaniyeyi üstüne çekip kanepeye kivrilmak olsun, ister yazin bir hamakta uyumak olsun, veya yorucu bir günün aksaminda yataginiza kendinizi …
stop it. I want to know.
tell me~~~~
iyi=good
uyumak=to sleep
olsun=may it be so
ok I didn’t have to get it out of you through extreme means…
…damn
:sheep::sheep::sheep::sheep:
Susidim cesme
Var maz olaydim
O fountain, thirst overcomes me.
Susadim çesmeye varmaz olaydim
Elinden bir tas su içmez olaydim.
:love::pent:
From the Legislative Desk
by Carey “Buck” BoethelTAC Legislative Affairs Director
Vol.9, No.14 Published by Texas Association of Counties April 30, 1999
“What! A seven hundred-dollar telephone bill!” The Texas Legislature is working on legislation that would freeze local-phone rates for the next six years and lower the intrastate long-distance calls. It’s not uncommon to hear friends lamenting over how to understand their bills and pay statements as painful as the charge of a wounded bull. The Legislature passed a law four years ago that deregulated the state’s telephone industry.
:omg: Pretty soon I’ll be popping pills.
:spank::no:
Hey Nicki Rose did you see my note the other day about Paul?
He passed on.
Ok..sorry..did you already know that?
Good night:yawn:
:banana: http://www.nonesuch.com/Hi_Band/lauraveirs
Benedict and Islam
Dialogue with Islam
The Pope strongly condemned the Mohammed cartoons, first published by a Danish newspaper and later in other European papers, saying “In the international context we are living at present, the Catholic Church continues convinced that, to foster peace and understanding between peoples and men, it is necessary and urgent that religions and their symbols be respected”. He also added that this implies that “believers should not be the object of provocations that wound their lives and religious sentiments.” Benedict XVI noted that “for believers, as for all people of good will, the only path that can lead to peace and fraternity is respect for the convictions and religious practices of others.”[27]
When Benedict was elected, critics described him as tougher on terrorism and more wary of radical Islam than his predecessor. The pope’s own statements, however, have strongly supported those of outgoing secretary of state, Cardinal Angelo Sodano, and his deputy, Archbishop Giovanni Lajolo, Vatican foreign minister. “There seems to be a surprising degree of unanimity and outspokenness, so far at least, on this issue,” said one diplomat in Rome. “In other words, if the pope really wasn’t quite comfortable with (Cardinal) Sodano and (Archbishop) Lajolo as some suggest, he’s giving them a lot of room. And his own public comments for the most part seem to echo theirs.”[28]
Pope Benedict XVI has called for Christians “to open their arms and hearts” to Muslim immigrants and “to dialogue” with them on religious issues. The pope told participants that the Catholic Church is “increasingly aware” that “interreligious dialogue is a part of its commitment to the service of humanity in the modern world.” In fact, this “conviction” has become “the daily bread” of those who work with migrants, refugees and itinerant peoples, he said. Pope Benedict described this dialogue between Christians and Muslims as “important and delicate.” Many communities have experienced this, he said, as they worked “to build relations of mutual knowledge and respect with (Muslim) immigrants, which are extremely useful in overcoming prejudices and closed minds.” For this reason, he added, Christians “are called to open their arms and hearts to everyone, whatever their country of origin, leaving the task of formulating appropriate laws for the promotion of healthy existence to the authorities responsible for public life.”[29]
On July 21, 2006, Benedict XVI has appealed to a convent of cloistered nuns to pray for the conversion of terrorists. According to Sister Maria, one of the 10 Carmelites of the community, the Holy Father said, “Pray also for the terrorists, as they do not know that not only do they harm their neighbor, but above all they harm themselves.” Concerned about what Was happening in the Holy Land, Benedict XVI added: “Now we experience a worsening of the conflict in Lebanon, but also in many other parts of the world there are people suffering because of hunger and violence. Contemplative life, rich in charity opens heaven to humanity, which so needs it, as today in the world it is as if God did not exist. And where God is not, there is violence and terrorism.”[30]
On August 7, 2006, Pope Benedict XVI renewed his appeal for peace in the Middle East and said he was deeply disappointed that calls for an immediate cease-fire in Lebanon had been ignored. “Faced with the bitter fact that up to now the calls for an immediate cease-fire in that martyred region have been disregarded, I feel impelled to renew my pressing appeal to that effect, asking everyone to offer their real contribution to the construction of a just and lasting peace.” Pope Benedict donated two ambulances and emergency medical supplies to Caritas in Lebanon.
On September 11, 2006, The leaders of Muslim communities in Italy endorsed on Monday statements by pope Benedict XVI who warned that Africa and Asia feel threatened by the West’s materialism and secularism. “We agree with the pope,” said Roberto Piccardo, the spokesman of Italy’s largest Muslim group UCOII. “It is true that Muslims are puzzled by a West which is hostage to a materialistic system.” Mario Scialoja, the former president of the World Muslim League, also expressed support for the pope’s words, saying that the “West’s exclusion of God leads to the wrong life models.”[31]
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