So, yesterday was really pretty here. About 40 degrees, and pouring rain. “Up north” (as we say around here), they got a pretty good dumping of snow, but here, just rain, rain, rain. Warm and rain is OK by me, by cold and rain just plain sucks. I much prefer snow (although, if it had snowed yeaterday, we’d have gotten about ten feet, I think). Oh well, the snow will be here soon enough, I reckon. Don’t forget, if you’re in the Boston area, you have another chance (or two) to see Marc – in Cambridge, at the Sanders Theater at Harvard, and another show at Jimmy Tingle’s in Somerville.
Good Morning / Evening. :yinyang:
:pent::sdavid::omg:
What’s up with White Castle???
there are no White Castle restaurants in Nicki’s area…I’ve lead him to the frozen supermarket kind :pent:
+SAINT of the DAY+
Berthold of Parma OSB, Confessor
(also known as Bertoldo Brechtolo)
Born in Parma, Italy; died 1111. Although Berthold’s parents were Anglo-Saxon, they fled from England at the Norman Conquest and Berthold was born at Parma. He spent his whole life as a lay- brother in Parma servicing the nuns belonging to Saint Alexander, while finding time to write for the revolutionary theater. (Benedictines, Karlists).
:priest:
Zupans sells WhiteCastle cheeseburgers. So does the local Walgreen’s. (We need a Wimpy emo eating a hamburger.)
writing for theater, yay! :parrot::priest: preaching isn’t too different from theater
Late night sliders. High school. :joe: Good memories with friends. 🙂
yeah, if they didn’t sell them anywhere in your area I’d have to ship them to you :omg:
this Mike Malloy show I’m streaming is pretty good
Here is a direct descendant of St Bertoldo:
Until 1924 Brecht lived in Bavaria, where he was born, studied medicine (Munich, 1917-21), and served in an army hospital (1918). From this period date his first play, Baal (produced 1923); his first success, 1922, Drums in the Night); the poems and songs collected as Die Hauspostille (1927; A Manual of Piety, 1966), his first professional production (Edward II, 1924); and his admiration for Wedekind, Rimbaud, Villon, and Kipling.
During this period he also developed a violently antibourgeois attitude that reflected his generation’s deep disappointment in the civilization that had come crashing down at the end of World War I. Among Brecht’s friends were members of the Dadaist group, who aimed at destroying what they condemned as the false standards of bourgeois art through derision and iconoclastic satire. The man who taught him the elements of Marxism in the late 1920s was Karl Korsch, an eminent Marxist theoretician who had been a Communist member of the Reichstag but had been expelled from the German Communist Party in 1926.
… With the composer Kurt Weill (q.v.) he wrote the satirical, successful ballad opera ; The Threepenny Opera) and the opera Rise and Fall of the Town of Mahoganny). He also wrote what he called “Lehr-stucke” (“exemplary plays”)–badly didactic works for performance outside the orthodox theatre–to music by Weill, Hindemith, and Hanns Eisler. In these years he developed his theory of “epic theatre” and an austere form of irregular verse. He also became a Marxist.
In 1933 he went into exile–in Scandinavia (1933-41), mainly in Denmark, and then in the United States (1941-47), where he did some film work in Hollywood. In Germany his books were burned and his citizenship was withdrawn. He was cut off from the German theatre; but between 1937 and 1941 he wrote most of his great plays, his major theoretical essays and dialogues, and many of the poems collected as Svendborger Gedichte (1939). a parable play of Hitler’s rise to power set in prewar Chicago; Herr Puntila und sein Knecht Matti (1948; Herr Puntila and His Man Matti), a Volksstuck (popular play) about a Finnish farmer who oscillates between churlish sobriety and drunken good humour; and The Caucasian Chalk Circle (first produced in English, 1948; Der kaukasische Kreidekreis, 1949), the story of a struggle for possession of a child between its highborn mother, who deserts it, and the servant girl who looks after it.
Brecht left the United States in 1947 after having had to give evidence before the House Un-American Activities Committee. He spent a year in Zurich, working mainly on Antigone-Modell 1948 (adapted from Hulderlin’s translation of Sophocles; produced 1948) and on his most important theoretical work, the Kleines Organon fur das Theater (1949; “A Little Organum for the Theatre”). The essence of his theory of drama, as revealed in this work, is the idea that a truly Marxist drama must avoid the Aristotelian premise that the audience should be made to believe that what they are witnessing is happening here and now. For he saw that if the audience really felt that the emotions of heroes of the past–Oedipus, or Lear, or Hamlet–could equally have been their own reactions, then the Marxist idea that human nature is not constant but a result of changing historical conditions would automatically be invalidated. Brecht therefore argued that the theatre should not seek to make its audience believe in the presence of the characters on the stage–should not make it identify with them, but should rather follow the method of the epic poet’s art, which is to make the audience realize that what it sees on the stage is merely an account of past events that it should watch with critical detachment. Hence, the “epic” (narrative, nondramatic) theatre is based on detachment, on the Verfremdungseffekt (alienation effect), achieved through a number of devices that remind the spectator that he is being presented with a demonstration of human behaviour in scientific spirit rather than with an illusion of reality, in short, that the theatre is only a theatre and not the world itself.
I am nearing the end of Friday’s Malloy show.
Susan- off to dinner with some friends. see ya. 881.
Brecht therefore argued that the theatre should not seek to make its audience believe in the presence of the characters on the stage–should not make it identify with them, but should rather follow the method of the epic poet’s art, which is to make the audience realize that what it sees on the stage is merely an account of past events that it should watch with critical detachment. Hence, the “epic” (narrative, nondramatic) theatre is based on detachment, on the Verfremdungseffekt (alienation effect), achieved through a number of devices that remind the spectator that he is being presented with a demonstration of human behaviour in scientific spirit rather than with an illusion of reality, in short, that the theatre is only a theatre and not the world itself.
Interesting…I wonder what he’d think of modern movies, television, etc, he’d probably see even more of a need for detachment…
oh, you deleted that, I missed it…
ciao KK :nod:
Detachment is an acting technique. Sort of like channeling the playwright’s intention. He may have used television to stage his plays. I am going to look into Brecht’s attitude towards (early) television. For an explosive critique of television, read Adorno.
Calif. Republican asks Pentagon to remove embedded CNN reporters
THOMAS WATKINS
Associated Press
SAN DIEGO – The chairman of the House Armed Services Committee asked the Pentagon on Friday to remove CNN reporters embedded with U.S. combat troops, saying the network’s broadcast of a video showing insurgent snipers targeting U.S. soldiers was tantamount to airing an enemy propaganda film.
The tape, which came to the network through contact with an insurgent leader, was aired Wednesday night on “Anderson Cooper 360” and repeated Thursday.
In a letter to Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., wrote: “CNN has now served as the publicist for an enemy propaganda film featuring the killing of an American soldier.”
(snip)
“This is nothing short of a terrorist snuff film,” Bilbray said at a press conference held in San Diego.
(snip)
In one instance, the tape shows a uniformed member of the U.S. military milling in a public area with Iraqis. A shot rings out. CNN fades the screen to black before the result – described as a victim falling forward – is visible.
(snip)
CNN officials defended their decision to air the footage.
“Our responsibility is to report the news,” said Laurie Goldberg, a CNN spokeswoman. “As an organization we stand by our decision and respect the rights of others to disagree with it.”
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I think it works with certain kinds of presentations. Maybe there was a real “age of science” attitude where playwrights were concerned about the audience mistaking fiction as fact, especially when events fell outside the range of what could occur in real life maybe people did believe it.
:cold::cold::cold:
❓ whatever :sheep: le
no no, Fred, you don’t understand…there’s truth, and then there’s being supportive. The only way you can win is by lying to people.
Would you not think that when something is performed on a stage that the audience would know it wasn’t real ??.. When its on TV unless you read the disclaimer at the beginning one never knows. There are so many outrageous things happening one could be led to believe almost anything.:eek:
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I think it’s obvious that people take TV too seriously. I don’t see how theater would be different. If things are presented to the public as drama, which is a powerful emotional medium, they’re going to “buy” it at least on a psychological level, the same way, say, people are influenced by advertising….unless there’s a real effort to keep people separated
Wasn’t there something on TV in the 90’s where they used the CNN and CBS news people as actors that got everyone that tuned in in the middle thinking the word was ending or something ?? , Then there was the War of the Worlds radio drama in the 1930’s:eek:
Why are you having that conversation? Detachment has little to do with it. Brecht believed in propaganda, when it served liberatory purposes. The ESSENCE of ART!
Detachment was sort of a dispassionate rendering by the actor of the plawright’s intent. More involved than my few sentences reflect.
I’m not that up on certain topics, sorry…
Brecht wrote the script for at least one Hollywood movie. “Hangmen Also Die”. It is about Czech resistance to the Nazis.
I guess I took the “detachment” thing too seriously
Hangmen Also Die was a 1943 film directed by the legendary Austrian director Fritz Lang with a script by Bertolt Brecht and John Wexley, with James Wong Howe serving as cinematographer.
On May 27, 1942, the Nazi “Reich Protector” of Nazis-occupied Prague in Bohemia and Moravia—”Hangman” Reinhard Heydrich—was assassinated by Czech resistance fighters parachuted from a British plane (Operation Anthropoid). Heydrich was the number-two man in the Nazi SS and a chief architect of the Holocaust.
Hangmen Also Die (1943) is the story of Heydrich’s assassination in fictionalized form. It was Bertolt Brecht’s only script for a Hollywood film: the money he earned from the project allowed him to write “The Visions of Simone Marchand, “S?vejk in the Second World War” and an adaptation of Webster’s “The Duchess of Malfi.” Hanns Eisler was nominated for an Academy Award for his musical score. The collaboration of three prominent refugees from Nazi Germany—Lang, Brecht and Eisler—is an example of the influence this generation of German exiles had in American culture.
I think I saw that
A Call for Papers:
Title: Brecht and/on Television
Organizer: Paul Gagliardi, Harrisburg Area Community College
Email: prgaglia@hacc.edu
Deadline for proposals: March 21, 2005
How have Brecht’s theater aesthetics been been adapted in television? How has the medium dealt with alienation and historicization? What problems have developed with Brechtian ideals and mass media?
I’ll try to find more on the topic
I got a whole bunch of stuff in the mail yesterday, including two cassettes, some drawings, and an interesting post card with a portrait
Spread the WORD!
I like the postcard
We’re writing to confirm your purchase of the following Amazon Marketplace
item from kleierbooks@earthlink.net:
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What postcard?
It’s a portrait of somebody on glossy postcard paper. It was included in package with drawings
That was picture of a drawing.
yeah… somebody with very emotional eyes
I am re-listening to the Thursday Malloy show. Much better. I thought his timing was a little off when I listened in RealTime. Not the second time around,
I’m somewhere close to the end of it… it’s a good show
I feel the need to assert myself very soon…
:billcat:=98ii\
somebody needs a Talking To. I think it’s been building up.
yeah. I’m not kidding.
AIUJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJ
:billcat::billcat:
it will probably build up even more unless I address it soon.
you ran AWAY from me????
you’ll pay big
During a speech delivered at a National Republican Senatorial Committee reception, President George Bush suggested that a “philosophical shift” by the Democratic Party began in the Cold War era, stating that the party at that time gave up the war against communism and backed away from beliefs in “the power of liberty and freedom.”
“It is interesting what’s happened to the Democrat [sic] Party,” said Bush. “You know, I’m reading a lot of history these days.”
http://tinyurl.com/y35t5l
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I don’t know if this is really worth reading .. The rethugs live in such denial. The belief that superior military force is the cure all for every foreign policy problem, that RayGun caused the collapse of communism, that capitalism is the solution for all social problems. etc etc etc and that the democrats because they use facts and observations to refute these truths are bad for the SBR. :barf::barf::barf::spank::yuck::paranoid:
No. I have cats that like to lie on my keyboard. The computer crashed.
hmm
you’re getting off easy…for now…I like cats…
The Democrats started the Cold War. Both political parties supported the Cold War. The people in power like Bush are such liars, anyway.
that’s true…I’m not sure what to listen to
:rofl2::bow:
are you laughing at me???
because…you know..if you’re laughing at me…oh boy, just wait. That’s all I have to say. Yes. you are laughing
Did you read the massage before I deleted it?
Oh yes.
and YES
:pent::pent::pent::pope::pent:
:sdavid::pent:
I must sleep now. Much to do tomorrow..
I’m about to go to work, I’ll catch you later :sdavid::pent:
The Land Was Theirs: Jewish Farmers in the Garden State. Gertrude Wishnick Dubrovsky. Tuscaloosa: University of Alabama Press, 1992.
White House kills bill to cut 40% off of military drug costs:
Straight from the Stars and Stripes Web site comes a story that reaffirms the Bush Administration’s dedication to our armed forces. This time it’s Tricare, the military health system, that is the beneficiary of Bush’s tender mercies:
Pressured by the White House and drug industry lobbyists, Congress has killed a Senate-passed provision that would have forced pharmaceutical manufacturers to grant the Department of Defense deep discounts on drugs dispensed through the Tricare retail pharmacy network.
http://tinyurl.com/uanan
:cat: As for cats and keyboards:
My cat, Rosie, walks on my keyboard and can produce changes on my computer that take me a very long time to undo. She is a most talented little techie.
Good Morning :joe:
I don’t think you would have gotten much of an argument from 99% of America concerning what was done in the first 25 years of the cold war.
Uncle Joe Stalin had a very poor track record in terms of political tolerance and the blockade of Berlin demonstrated his lack of willingness to compromise and to remove his army from Eastern Europe.
The USSR under Stalin and Kruschev presented a military threat and I’m sure that many of the same people that today think the Islamic radicals will cut off their heads ( more likely fear that they will make their crap shoot crash) who then lived primarily on large estates in the North East and today also in Arkansas, Washington and California were more than willing to finance pro military candidates.
The US propaganda ministry conviently used the word “communism” to disguise a terrible repressive dictatorship that was imprisoning more than half of the population of Europe.
A dictatorship we financed in the early days just like we financed Saddam Hussein.:eek:
The Russians had a great deal of paranoia :eek::eek:caused by their own history of being invaded from the west and the presence of the American army in Western Europe was a cause of alarm to them as was the presence of the Soviet army in Eastern Europe a cause of concern to the west. ( not to mention the western Europeans)
In reality the US could not have countered a conventional military invasion of western Europe by conventional means up until the early 1980’s.. The USSR really did have more tanks in eastern Europe than we had troops.
The failure of central planning and wide spread corruption ( sound familiar) failed miserably in the USSR to provide anyone but the very elite with any resemblance of a good life and that combined with their military spending and the war in Afghanistan to made them go down the tubes.. Gorbachev could not continue life support for the Eastern European countries the USSR was occupying and still support the war in Afghanistan and battle the Islamic extremists in the Stans. If he had not broken up the USSR it would look a lot like North Korea ( but I would bet we would not be in Iraq)
The Russian plutocracy of today is still both a economic and military threat to Western Europe and the SBR. Most of Western Europe’s natural gas comes from Russia as does a lot of raw materials for their industry.
A lot of defense metals used in in the SBR for military aircraft production come from Russia
The Russians still have some 800 ICBM’s with some 2400 warheads aimed at us. Most of what was the soviet army is mothballed. They still have a 100 plus ship navy and their nuclear submarines some carrying ICBMs still prowl the Atlantic and the Pacific. A sizable percent of their GNP still goes for military R&D .
The Russian merchant marine ( which was the largest in the word) transports more than half of the worlds raw and finished materials
Russia and the SBR are both nearly third world plutocracies in that neither country can exist by itself although Russia may be more likely to because they have the world largest fossil fuel reserves and a lot more unexploited natural resources that the SBR does. A sizable percentage of Russia’s major exports like the SBR’s are in military hardware..
Don’t you feel safer now .. :?::?:
http://71.8.9.181:8000/listen.m3u
By VLADIMIR ISACHENKOV
The Associated Press
Saturday, October 21, 2006; 8:36 AM
MOSCOW — Russia will not allow the U.N. Security Council to be used to punish
Iran over its nuclear program, the foreign minister said. Foreign Minister Sergey
Lavrov said that Russia was ready to discuss ways to pressure Iran into accepting
a broader international oversight of its nuclear program, but added that “any
measures of influence should encourage creating conditions for talks.”
“We won’t be able to support and will oppose any attempts to use the Security Council
to punish Iran or use Iran’s program in order to promote the ideas of regime change
there,” Lavrov said Friday in an interview with the Kuwaiti News Agency KUNA which
was posted on the Russian Foreign Ministry Web site Saturday.
On Friday, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called the U.N. Security Council and
its decisions “illegitimate,” saying the world body was being used as a political tool
by Iran’s enemies _ the United States and Britain.
Iran has been locked in a standoff with the West over its nuclear program. A draft
United Nations resolution on Iran is expected to be introduced in the Security Council
early next week, and diplomats have said they would seek limited sanctions on Tehran
for refusing to suspend uranium enrichment.
http://tinyurl.com/ykrmk6
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I still think there is some collusion here to lure GW and the SBR off a cliff…:eek::eek:
Hey Cnick quit mumbling into the microphone..Are you lying in bed with the mike on your chest. ??
Why does your stream keep popping and clicking..??
My firewall doesn’t like Skype
It professional :rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:
Itunes works better so far
Hey guys, I just got to Marc’s recent message and emailed him a plea to come back to radio. I say we pray for him to come back to radio twice a day by emailing him twice a day for a couple of weeks, all of us. Do you think that would scare him away? Or make him want to come back more? What do ya think?
hi all:
back to work & on a break.
happy belated birthday fred. funny you don’t sound libra-ish, not exactly scorpionish either. whens your b day, year, time, place? one of these years i’ll do your chart.
so sorry Gypsy.
I remain on pins and needles about the election. I am so looking forward to a couple years of truth-seeking, but I fear it will be stolen again…
I don’t want to shoot anyone, but i’d so love to see these hypocritical, arrogant, slimy bastards (of both genders) doing hard time. yeah, likes that’s going to happen. oh well, even a couple of years playing golf in a federal minimum security facility would get them off the streets for awhile.
speaking of truth seekers, pj thanks for the mike malloy replay av link for thursday’s show. do you have one for friday’s?
cnick, still haven’t been able to hear your broadcast, or sedition radio on my handheld. some stuff works, some won’t load or play…
Was that Marc at marcmaron dot com ??
Who knows anything is worth a try
That’s the address I used. It hasn’t bounced yet.
Krista-
I know that Marc knows how badly we want him back……
I talked to him about it last night. Use the email to ask Drobny to give him a great offer…ask XM and Sirius to give him an indepentdent show, or anything else you can think of.
He wants to do a proper show with enough budget to have writers and quality as high as what hes done….and he really wants to come back….
He was so great last night and with so many MS fans, he sorta dropped the bits thing and just went off into cat stories and political rants…..it was very long!
Nick…..Im listening to you.
Talk to me about the meds before you go….I know alot about meds , especially after this year with Will….
Isnt the comet thing about nosferatu?
except that now I think I gott a go on Pandora…because I think its hall and oates….good spokkesmen for Lyme disease but their muzak drives me craaazzzyyy…speaking of antianxiety meds.
I’ve emailed XM but not the Drobny’s yet. Although, I could never get their email to work when we were campaigning for Morning Sedition, does anyone have an email for them that works? Marcs email sounded a little like he wasn’t sure he wanted to come back and I was worried that he’s finding the life of sleeping in and not being tied to a show like a job, too enjoyable. In any case, whoever we email, now is the time because he is in talks. Wake up all you MS lurkers! :pup: :cat: :fist:
Hes getting alot of offers and wants to be back in radio…but the drobny thing is just one of many things….
I always got mail directly back from drobny…check his mail on huffpo’s blogs site…I think you can email those blogger directly, right?
I think that after all that has happened and how crazy showbiz is, he would be smart to explore all options….so we should be as patient as possible…..
My big thing is always, thank god he got away from those people. …and I worry about Sam being dangled there…
But show biz people are tough.
So, lets hope that as the offers come in, his agents consider carefully how the talent is treated at whatever outlets.
On thing that he said, that I also think is true, is that the liberal voice is goign to really expand to alot of outlets in one way or another…because AAR proved that there was a market for it.
so, the opportunities keep growing.
Sounds like a great show last night, Melina. It would be nice to hear Marc five days a week again (or even someplace that wasn’t five hours and a couple hundred dollars away). I guess there’s not much chance of the latter, so I’ll have to hope for the former.
Roxie, the White Rose Society has Malloy on Springer (you’ll have to scroll down the list of shows a bit). And anybody who appreciates what they have there might consider a donation.
The ESSENCE of ART!
y’know…Nicki…sometimes I feel like I am in Washington State University freshman art appreciation.
What do you have to tell me about the essence of art that any schmoe or my art history or agitprop teachers back in the 70’s did?
Some of us actually have art backgrounds, have studied theory, and also realize how subjective art is…..some of us have even travelled the world looking at art, theater, and architecture…
If you want to try to talk to Suz and Fred like they are stupid heads, go ahead…I hope they tell you to fuck off…but I think that they have valid points and certainly a right to say them.
…. its more than a little annoying to wake to this wonderful day and place and have to read you again lecturing us all on what art is…..or how it should be presented…or what the fuck Brecht meant. And it not only shuts down our own group but IM sure it stops others from wanting to jump in.
I studied this crap and went outside and did it when you were…oh, maybe 9 years old….
so, lets give others here a little credit for having IQ’s almost as high as yours….
and, as you get older, you may realize that its emotional IQ- ie social skills an empathy- that matter most
More classic Olbermann :bow:
Cnick’s web radio sounds pretty good.. The commentary/talk with contemporary music format might be a good way to do radio too. That might attract those 20 somethings and lead them to learn a little more liberal thought.
Since I switched over to Itunes the popping and clicking stopped..Real Networks must be cheap.. :yuck:
thanks pj:
yeah, I want to give them and sgsea and you a few bucks but not until after the election you know.
melina: I never heard how basement snake is doing.
p.s. to all: I finally spent a few minutes on a real computer and checked out the photos. man oh man, what a great looking bunch of animals (and the pets are pretty darn cute too. ba ba bum)
Ok, I need a break from the radio for awhile. So I’ll just let music play for now. If anyone wants to talk on skype let me know. I’ll be in the Living Room watching Star Trek on G4 Network.
:fire::fire::fire::fire::fire:
Morning… or at least that’s what some of the people who live on my floor think it is. I start yelling at 12:30 pm and someone comes out of their room to tell me to shut up because their roommates are sleeping.
I’LL YELL ALL I WANT!!! IT’S PAST NOON!!!!!
Anyways, don’t forget TOMORROW @ 8 pm CENTRAL TIME is Grand National Championship on FreeRadioSAIC.org. Marc Maron stuff, me attempting to be optimistic, and other stuff.
Last week’s show was really fun and I wanna KEEP THAT UP!!!
I’ve gotta take the train out to Belmont to help in a performance piece (Oak Park, I think).
LOVE Seditionist Radio, btw.
HEY PJ!!!!!:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:
How about putting Jon Tester (D from MT up against Conrad Burns) on your MS appproved contribution sidebar!!! i gave him 5 bucks on Thursday but more importantly, if we can turn Montana BLUE!!!!?????!!!!! Hell will freeze over.
speaking of candidates,
did everybody see colbert a couple nights ago. he interviewed john leashe (sp?) who running for congress from ny state. he was the lead singer in the band, Orleans, and he and colbert did a brief duet of “dance with me” very funny interview.
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Yeah, that’s John Hall, actually, running in the NY-19th.
He’s running against Sue Kelly. If you haven’t seen this video of her, it’s pretty funny.
Be back on later folks.
Thank you for the gratuitous slam. :fu:
oh yeah, now I remember, John Hall. Colbert kept (supposedly) confusing him with Hall of Hall & Oates. I really need to send him a check. You can tell he’d be an outstanding congressman.
I guess marc@marcmaron.com did bounce .
I don’t want to have to join myspace just to email Marc.
:yippee:i had white castle for lunchh and got an e-mail response from farmerkat! so either she is alive and well or her captors are checking her e-mail and responding:paranoid:
join myspace to e-mail sean krista!
melina
#90 – Nicki and I were having a discussion and it was quite as simple as that…I honestly don’t know why you are getting on his case here,. We tell each other things freely, I’ll tell him things he doesn’t know, and he sometimes will tell me things I’m unfamiliar with. Yesterday in his own words “I outdid him” with the Saint of the Day. In this case I don’t know much about theater past the acting lessons I took in School of Visual Arts which never really got beyond some Stanslavski method and didn’t delve into history of theater or playwrights- and I’m not familiar with Brecht, so he stepped in to tell me… I think he’s brilliant, I somehow believe he thinks the same about me (as do I about myself – every once in awhile, anyway), and we can communicate with each other just fine, thanks!
Moths vs. Bats
If organisms evolve through response to selection pressures — predation being a major one — it stands to reason that in the absence of selection pressure, de-evolution of a sort may occur.
Consider the large family of nocturnal moths, the Noctuidae, for example. They aren’t active during the day, so they escape predation by birds.
But flying at night makes them a handy target of another animal: bats. So an “acoustic startle response” has evolved in the hearing system of many noctuids.
When they sense a high-frequency echolocation call from a bat, the moths either dart around or stop flying completely, going into a free fall, to avoid being caught and eaten. It’s thought that this response is due to a single auditory receptor neuron, which fires away when a bat call is heard.
But if there are no bats around, noctuid moths eventually lose this startle response. James H. Fullard of the University of Toronto at Mississauga and colleagues have determined just how this happens.
They studied moths in Tahiti (it’s hard, sometimes, being a scientist). The island has been bat-free throughout its several million years of existence, and the noctuids there don’t exhibit the startle response.
But it is not that the auditory system has disappeared, the researchers say in a paper in Biology Letters. The neuron still exists, and it has roughly the same sensitivity to high-frequency calls as moths found elsewhere. What is different is that in the Tahitian moths, when the neuron does fire, it doesn’t fire as often.
The researchers say their finding suggests that the evolutionary disappearance of the startle response is a gradual process and, in this case at least, is incomplete.
:pup:susan!and sue!
I’ve been out looking for this certain song I just LOVE. It’s called “Sunshine” and its sung by Johnathan Edwards. No, not the politician. This is an old 70’s song! Silly
http://71.8.9.181:8000/listen.m3u
Gonna play it a few times if you wanna listen!
ok i don’t think it was playing huh?
It’s working now
http://71.8.9.181:8000/listen.m3u – click the link to listen
Somebody call Rick Santorum!!!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061021/ap_on_fe_st/bestiality_charge_3
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I wonder if you can get a bat emulator to put on your front porch during moth season. :tongue:
I hate these no news days when you are anticipating an October surprise. 😮
Knowing little to nothing about the literary and historical aspects of theater, drama or art most of what Nicki says in that regard means nothing at all to me.. but neither did most of what Albert Einstein wrote about. :shock::tongue:
Fred takes an orange in both hands , climbs on desk and begins to jump up and down while screeching loudly. :dancers::pirate::parrot::eek:
And for the lonely guys without pets…
http://tinyurl.com/y6bchh
:love::love::love:
As I was saying before the Westin kicked me off the wifi for lack of payment for another 24 hours….
re 107-
It is not you Im worried about Suz….
The educating Suzir Joy game is a continuation of something that went on for a long time before you were here, which was the educating of the blog…in some way….with no discussion really allowed….just lots of various information thrown at us randomly….
You can be an eager student all you want but I dont see what any of this has to do with the rest of us here…..
I am reacting to something that Nicki has been doing for a long time and Ive let him know over and over to cut it out….
So, enjoy it if thats what youre into, but I dont need it….I skim through….and if I feel like the attitude indicates that I have something to learn about some subject , Ill feel free to call him on it, just like I did before you were here to defend him.
Nicki loses his audience in attitude.
And like it or not, when you and he are having your discourse, lessons, love affiar, brilliance here, we are out here lisstening….. and supposedly what you say here is to a whole room, as if you are at a cocktail party. The small corner for private conversations is called IM, or email…..
In most mostly male engineering schools the standard “joke” is to ask “what did the girls mother say when she caught the engineer out in the barn with her daughter.” …. ??
The answer can be either MOOOO or BAAAAA
Sunshine was a big FM hit in NYC when I was in college. Glad someone remembers.
Yes Nick- Im old…Of course I remember Sunshine….Brooklyn NY, hot town summer in the city….
I’ll bet you can find a lifesize Barbara Bush doll somewhere. Probably break you of any mannequin fetishes, too.
Summer in the City? Lovin’ Spoonful, no? John Sebastian, before Mr. Kotter. As I recall, he had a folk group, that split up into two groups – the Lovin’ Spoonful and the Mamas and the Papas.
RTYPE!
I’ll bet you can find a lifesize Barbara Bush doll somewhere. Probably break you of any mannequin fetishes, too.
Comment by pjsauter — October 21, 2006 @ 6:50 pm
Or stuff a trash bag full of leaves and stick a Quaker Oats box on top of it. Same difference.
:rofl2:
As I recall, he had a folk group, that split up into two groups – the Lovin’ Spoonful and the Mamas and the Papas.
Comment by pjsauter — October 21, 2006 @ 6:55 pm
I think it was called the Mugwumps, or something like that. Cass Elliott was in it prior to her Mama days.
Melina, are you feeling any younger yet? 😀
:shock:wtf are you people talking about?
loving spoonfull? sounds porny:blech:
Yeah, it was the Mugwumps.
And we need the Mugwumps again now. Not the folk group, but the Republicans who supported the Democratic candidate (Grover Cleveland – a big name in Buffalo, right Sean?) because the Republican was an asshole.
Those were the days.
http://71.8.9.181:8000/listen.m3u
Call me on skype: cnickthomas
:ear:who is this grover cleveland i know there is a grover cleveland high school?
:nana:just kidding!
:penguin::shock:oh crap that stupid sean guy doesnt even know who grover cleveland is what a dumbass!
Shawn call me on skype and let’s talk about your job. What’s this I hear about your being kicked off JCS?
:penguin::tommygun:fuck you jeffy!
noy kicked off but going to do something else……
im about to hit the road we will talk later……
Well if no one wants to talk or listen I guess I’ll shut this thing down for the night.
Night people
Or stuff a trash bag full of leaves and stick a Quaker Oats box on top of it. Same difference.
:rofl2:
Comment by Kevin M — October 21, 2006 @ 7:08 pm
:rofl2::rofl2: OMG! What a visual!
Hey, I think I have my Halloweeen costume! 💡
http://71.8.9.181:8000/listen.m3u
back on for a little while
Diplomat cites U.S. ‘stupidity’ in Iraq
Alright, well, I have to go. Thanks for the stream, Cnick. Later:peace:
hey
the heron has landed
Hey blue, listen to me if you have a chance. http://71.8.9.181:8000/listen.m3u
I think I’m about 25 min from
me house….
stopping at the ferry dock first I guess
this guy is driving like a bat outta hell
sorry I missed john sebastian cnick
and travis
:hubba::hot:lanny barby!
:penguin:the comet is the cause of global warming viva la coment!
:knit:
:spank:that was johnny cash! last album he released before he died!
Nick!! Seanie!!
Its MEEEEEE
I left my dongle at home!! I dont have skype with me.
I like Johnny Cash
I like this white stripes song…..very odd, these two….
:billcat:
jolly good then
are you listening melina?
ha ha yeah you are!
i thought it was harland williams not patton oswalt in ny with marc?
oh yeah…maybe…they all suck…blue collar tour, right?
Marc said that that sort of humor lowered the bar on society…I cant chat with group so youll have to pass it on…
I hate most standup…..I like slice of life look at reality….andy kaufmann, steven wright….even robin williams sometimes
Bu that harland is the worst piece of shit Ive ever seen….patton was on with sam recently…? cant remember….just, that sort of humor sucks
:omg:patton is awesome!
goodnight sheeple
:sheep:
nite seanie…hope patto sings you to sleep….sweet dreams…
and to you nick…and blue….nite!!
Thanks for keeping the show going so late cnick
Goodnight, blue, sean and melina
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Gnostic Banishing Rituals : Rituals
Enochian magick by s*s*n j*y–atone! a wand dagger sword air. It as quoted from those concerned for each vowel sounds are no blanket copyrights on thelema. :pent::pent::pent::pent:Woo Woo Banish narrow sectarian thoughts. Prophetess. Universal ritualiania…caverns…:pent::pent:keep pentagram pure…purify us…send O spiritus….:pent::pent:
C-Span Out!
:pope:en ingles por favor!