Most of us get an extra hour tonight, which I can certainly use, but, damn it gets dark early enough as it is these days – do we have to give it any more help? I’ve always thought that it should be “spring ahead, fall forward,” personally. Who the hell needs it to be light in the morning, when you have to go to work? I want it light in the evening, when you can actually go out and do something. And don’t give me this nonsense about kids going to school. That’s what headlights are for (besides, once they go from fetuses to people, who gives a crap, except for the ones we’ll eventually ship off to war, of course, but getting run over a few times just toughens ’em up, and the tougher they are, the less we have to shell out for body armor and all those other frills).
Today would have been my parents’ 59th wedding anniversary, which means my oldest brother’s birthday is nine months and nine days away (hey, it was right after the war, so everybody had to get busy in a hurry). My mother would have despised George W. Bush (my dad, too, who could never figure out why they called Reagan the “great communicator,” since he sounded like a stammering idiot most of the time – Reagan, that is, not my dad). She (mom) always hated Nixon with a passion – I mean, to an Irish Catholic broad, it just didn’t get any better than JFK, and this shifty, sweaty weasel needed to get the hell out of his way.
It must have been quite a time, really, back in the first few years of the sixties (if you were white, anyway), to have gotten past the war, and elected one of your own generation – one that not only didn’t shirk military service, but actually served with distinction and heroism. Somebody with a young family, just like yours. A president that sounded intelligent when he spoke, and that the rest of the world (for the most part) didn’t hate. Somebody (as it turned out) that you could at least count on not to get the goddamn world blown up.
And here, 46 years later, we find ourselves saddled with an ignorant, incurious, lunatic with an Oedipus complex and his finger on the button, who thinks God is telling him what to do. Enabling this dark farce of a president is every branch of the United States government – enabling and cowering before him, going along to get along, and to get a slice – even just a few crumbs – of the pie. Of course it’s a pie made from the rotting flesh and severed limbs of men, women, and children – Iraqis and Americans, soldiers and civilians, whose lives have been destroyed, both in armed combat, and from the reprehensible policies this wretched, filthy, shameless government has foisted upon the citizens of this world.
That’s what this election that’s coming up is all about – taking at least one branch of this government away from these morally bankrupt demons (yes, I too smell the sulfur), and at least stop them from making things worse.
I mostly agree that if you vote for the lesser of two evils, you still get something evil, except it really does make a difference just how evil the greater evil is, and the effect of the aggregate evil. In isolation, these people are bad, but let them come together, achieve critical mass, and rise to power, and the next thing you know they’re invading Poland (or Iraq) and building concentration camps and secret prisons where they claim the “legal” authority to hold and torture anyone, at any time.
Those that pull the strings right now really are evil. Their enablers have no shame. I am under no illusion that a Democratic majority in one or both Houses of Congress means things suddenly will all be OK again (truth be told, things were never “all OK”), but if the Republicans remain in complete control of this government, then Bush and his masters will take it as a mandate to escalate the rape and pillage of our planet (and frankly, I have no desire to be subject to the whims of George Bush’s “higher father”). They need to be stopped, and, all bravado, righteous indignation, and idle threats aside, that can only begin to happen if we take away their rubber stamp on November 7th.
Afterwards, well, I don’t know. With any luck, we can start worrying about that on November 8th.
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oh never mind :tongue:
I think some critics of Lakoff are baffled that a cognitive scientist would have such high claims for their research. Chomsky would probably say it is “doing science the old, 19th century way.” A comprehensive systemic science. Freud comes to
I sense that framing can be useful, but one must be aware of their stating points, as Jensen demonstrates in his critique. I read a Lakoff rejoinder to Pinsker’s criticism of his “science”. I think I will locate it and drag it here.
I agree…it’s useful but shouldn’t be taken as science. I’d like to see what a non partisan would come up with; someone who is apolitical and looking in at the system. I think it would be better to hear from someone like that. I think they’d say something very different
No. I would like to see a far left (Humanist, progressive, non-bolshevik, anti-authoritarian left ) application of Lakoff’s framing techhnique.
A Lakoff response to criticism:
http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=w061016&s=lakoff101606
http://www.powells.com/biblio?show=HARDCOVER:NEW:0374158282:23.00&page=authorsnote
if they can do it honestly that would be interesting
I have to register with the New Republic? Yikes
fine. Susan Joy Shemanski is registering
We can no longer conduct twenty-first-century politics with a seventeenth-century understanding of the mind.
George Lakoff
The Republicans know how to frame things better than Lakoff or any progressive that I’ve seen, and they have a prehistoric knowledge of the mind…
or maybe they just have a better machine at distributing the frames. Of course that says that repitition is the key even if the frames aren’t perfect
Here is Pinker’s original review:
http://www.powells.com/review/2006_10_19
I really don’t know much about linguistics and language
Republican frames are silly and preposterous. Republican Party better serve the needs of corporations than does the Democratic Party. The news media are for the most part major corporations. Therefore…
Papantonio claims that mainstream media have the Republicans Party’s back covered because they are hoping that the Repos will further deregulate the industry.
Can you write a sentence?
What is a noun?
Verb?
Sentences (S) consist of a noun phrase (NP) and a verb phrase (VP).
S=NP+VP
oh well… I guess I can throw a few words together
Shemanski threw the brick.
Coincidence. Jungian convergence! Throw a brick and throw a sentence.
I know a few things.
English falls into Subject+Verb+Object pattern. SVO
as soon as your performance is over I have plans for you
Hey. I’m the teacher here.
Shemanski threw the sentence through the window.
I’ll teach you a lesson :pent:
Linguistics is built upon the easy stuff I posted above. S=NP+VP
hmm “throwing” is not the frame I want currently
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don’t presume to lecture me. You’;re insolent. And yes.
I know about that kind of “linguistics” I teach grammar. I never got into the “deep structure” kind of stuff they’re talking about in the article. I think it was an elective course for reading teachers. It sounded interesting, but I never got to it.
Seriously, though. I wrote the sentence about “throwing the brick” before I read your post with “throw” in it. Throw is a verb. It is the head of the verb phrase in the sentence.
When I studied linguistics at UW, the venerable linguistics professor was Fred Lakoff. He went to school “with” Chomsky.
If you teach grammar, then you are well grounded in the basics for studying linguistics.
I just found out that Chomsky had something to do with theory on this topic.
oh I’m sure I can learn it. I just haven’t yet.
I dropped the name Fred Lakoff above. Found nothing about him. Then…lightbulb. Lukoff. Fred Lukoff. He was emeritus when I took classes at UW.
Subject: Fred Lukoff, 1920-2000
It is with great sadness that I report to you the death of Fred Lukoff, my father and friend, on Sunday, August 13 [2000] in Seattle. His linguistic education took place at the University of Pennsylvania,where he received his doctoral degree in 1954.
After spending a year at MIT working with Victor Yngve, Noam Chomsky and Morris Halle, he went to Korea, where he spent the next seven years teaching at Yonsei University in Seoul. He would retire from the University of Washington in 1989.
:pirate:
🙁
I was just getting on a plane to come over there and tell you off for leaving me
I need strong alcohol
:joe: herbal tea. That’s about it
I need to practice.
be creative :pent:
I’m still serious about the email I wrote
I’m going to do what I said I was going to do
I like it. I’d love to hear it spoken
Pay for my ticket.
Darrel wrote it.
Darrel is very good then. I’m sure you’ll do it more than justice.
You are leaving Fred in the dust. :omg:
I just got a tax rebate in the mail, three hundred bucks. Go me.
Ah but Fred’s a fighter, he’ll have days where all he does is post and I will have to battle him for a week or so till I feel secure again
I owe $. Goddamn Multnomah County school tax.
VOTE REPUBLICAN!
yeah, they’ll make the schools better. No child left behind. let’s pay for those standardized tests
Linguistics is interesting. But very involved and abstract. I don’t have the quality of mind and or inclination to really get into it. I would rather study Parecon.
speaking of evil, PJ, I don’t see anything over there => about i-only-know-3-Commandments-Westmoreland. Nice post, btw.
Morning! :joe:
taking care of a 4-month old Briard puppy (we may keep him) for a friend. He woke me up at 3 and then the little Houdini got out of his crate at 6. I must not have latched it well in my slumber. We’re calling him Murrow after you know who. It’s a “B” year in naming Briards so I’m thinking “Breaking News” for registered name. Little fellow is the result of an accidental breeding and, although he’s registered, he’s considered somewhat an “undesirable.” Humans are so weird.
:tongue:
I’d be interested in it only as far as it would help me teach reading, maybe. But I understand the topic can be very dry – at least that’s what others who took it told me. Parecon is more interesting, and much more practical
Tax policies have pretty much killed the Portland School District. Ditto Seattle.
Morning puppy mommy :pup: I like the name
That’s too bad. I was wondering how the schools were in your area.
Heavy rain and I have to go to work at 9 am 😕
thanks sj, i’m glad to hear that.
this is a really interesting article. sort of a legal primer:
When Is a Corporation Like a Freed Slave?
By Barry Yeoman
have fun at work sj
i’m trying to update my resume. :omg:
off to try and walk 3 dorks. hmmmm, maybe I need to go wake up a certain someone to help….. :nod:
Have a Happy Saturday everyone!
you too FK. I’m just waiting ten or fifteen minutes to see if a kid cancels – don’t want to drive there for no reason. Nicki, if I don’t see you this afternoon – rock out tonight. I know everything is going to go well
Oh, one last thing, you all can look up your representatives’ environmental records here. On the right side there’s a place to put in your zip code and look up their scorecard.
Ciao!
:yuck::yuck::yuck::yuck::crap::crap::crap::crap::rant1::rant1::rant1:
❓ whatever :sheep: le
:doh:is it safe?
Windows is :crap:
Red hat Linux is :crap:
APC is :crap:
Capitalism is :crap:
:growl::growl::growl::growl::growl:
Well it looks like the framing crowd left..
Framing on both sides of an issue would make both sides look like they were lying.
Also with no media to present things you have 200 Reich wing jackasses probably using the same frame for every left wing presenter guess who’s frame most people would believe.
:gate::omg::jason::jason::jason:
:penguin:APC?
California raises reward in hunt for arsonist
State offers $500,000 as crews work through the night to stop deadly blaze
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/15428042/
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Arnold did it with his Hummer ( start the rumor) :reaper::reaper:
APC = American Power Conversion
They make UPS’s with proprietary batteries with strange voltages…They also don’t stock their dam batteries..:rant1::rant1::rant1:
Brad Will, 36, a documentary filmmaker and reporter for Indymedia in New York, Bolivia and Brazil, died today of a gunshot to the chest when pro-government attackers opened fire on a barricade in the neighborhood of Santa Lucia El Camino, on the outskirts of Oaxaca, Mexico. He died with his video camera in his hands.
http://tinyurl.com/ymg9e2
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If the Mexican left wants a revolution they need to shoot back.:eek::eek:
Republican Sen. John McCain, a possible 2008 presidential candidate, said Friday the United States should send another 20,000 troops to Iraq.
A member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, McCain said increasing U.S. forces would require expanding the standing Army and Marine Corps – a step the Bush administration has resisted. He also reiterated his opposition to a hasty U.S. withdrawal.
“If we leave … the fighting will evolve into chaos there,” McCain told reporters after speaking at an event for local Republican candidates.
“Another 20,000 troops in Iraq, but that means expanding the Army and the Marine Corps,”he said.
http://tinyurl.com/y8d8hh
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Do I feel a draft :eek::eek::eek:
:blech:civil war!
Whats Sean up to today ??
Got a “major windstorm” headed our way, with heavy rain, and 15-20 foot waves along the coast, which is supposed to cause coastal flooding.
All you folks in the northeast better make sure you have batteries and candles (not to mention beer and ice).
Warships deploy around Arab oil facilities
Britain cites al-Qaida threat to world’s largest offshore terminal
LONDON – Coalition naval forces in the Persian Gulf have been deployed to counter possible seaborne threats to an oil refinery in Bahrain and to Saudi Arabia’s Ras Tanura terminal, which is the world’s biggest offshore oil facility, Britain’s Royal Navy said on Friday.
A British navy official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the press, said a threat from al-Qaida last month to target Gulf oil terminals had resulted in the stepped-up security and vigilance.
Crude oil exports were continuing as normal, industry sources said, describing the deployment as routine.
The Royal Navy issued the warning in a statement to merchant shipping, calling it a precautionary measure after receiving intelligence of a possible threat.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15442751
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Some one at DU said it quite well
Six words: Sunburn missile, aircraft carrier, WWIII. :eek::eek::eek:
Wine coolers PJ wine coolers..and lots of cheese..:shock:
picking up meatloaf lights on tuesday going to nyc
By Eric Chabrow
InformationWeek
Oct 27, 2006 09:27 AM
America’s largest companies could save $58 billion a year by moving nearly 1.5 million back-office jobs overseas over the next decade, according to research conducted by The Hackett Group, a business consultancy.
That translates to $116 million in annual savings and the transfer of nearly 3,000 full-time equivalent jobs abroad for the typical Fortune 500 company, Hackett says in a report to be released Nov 7. Hackett provided a summary of the report to InformationWeek.
Moving about half of general and administrative jobs abroad represents an evolution in offshoring. Until a year ago, the overwhelming number of jobs sent abroad were for short-term projects, often involving IT. Now, a growing number of permanent back-office jobs are being targeted to relocate offshore. Some 15% of the Fortune 500 already offshore G&A jobs, says Michel Janssen, the Hackett managing director who headed the study.
A sign of the times, Janssen says, is the growing number of large, American companies that have created in the past year executive positions such as VP of global development to address the globalization of corporate resources.
http://tinyurl.com/yh6m6c
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:yuck::yuck::crap::gate::omg::jason::jason::jason:
meatloaf lights ??????:shock::eek:
Good Morning. :joe:
Ohhhh..You are hauling lights for meatloaf :smack: Such a name :eek::shock:
:banana::banana: Its Krista :banana::banana:
My :cat: thought there was a Maron show this morning.
Maybe I will listen to Thursday again.
:joe::joe::joe::joe: out of coffee :eek::eek:
Tea = zzzzzzzzzzzzz
fred!:yippee::joe::yippee::tongue:
PJ, thanks for your thoughts this morning. I always like to read them. Sometimes I laugh at my computer, sometimes, like this morning, I just keep nodding. Then of course there are those times when you discuss tech stuff and I wonder where you learned that foreign tongue.
Susan Joy, forgive me for entering the grammar fray. One of my many character flaws is that I like grammar. So, here goes:
words that end in ing are made from verbs but they are not verbs. They’re those participles we always hear about dangling. Participles are either nouns or adjectives.
Generally, when you add or change a suffix you also change the part of speech.
How’s the weather?
:cold:
:tommygun:Fred!
Hey Fred, they got you out on the road looking for batteries? Those damn UPSs never seem to work when you need them.
Cnick has a podcast of Fridays Marc in for Jerry Springer available here.
http://tinyurl.com/ykjr8l
What does a Briard look like FK? Got pics? I like Murrow. Names starting with a consonant with a double consonant in the middle are best, I think. :pup:
Texas landowners — sick of illegal immigrants cutting their fences, stealing, and trespassing, and tired of worrying about smugglers of humans and drugs endangering their families — have been demanding for years that Congress tighten the border.
But not, some say, with a double-layer $6 billion fence cutting through their land and keeping them and their livestock from the river.
http://tinyurl.com/yl7zqn
The weather is fine its already 40 something headed for 65 today.. Most of the snow meted yesterday :yippee: ( except for my driveway:growl:)
Here’s a few Briard pix. They look kinda like Chewbacca.
I had a Briard. He was white, which is an unacceptable color for a Briard. He was smart and he herded the cats. (He was pretty good at it , too. He’d get all three of them under one chair.) I think he thought they were as good a replacement for sheep as he was likely to find in the city. But he really had a problem with other dogs. Perhaps he thought they were the wolves. But, he was quite an experience to walk.
Oh duh, like the ones she has. There’s one that a couple walks by my house everyday. They are beautiful but I think I wouldn’t like the care that their coat would require. Healer coats are a little waxy and need virtually no maintenance except for vacuuming off the rug.
I like the story about the fence and the river. If I didn’t know any better, I’d think they rushed into this without having a plan, and without having a clue as to what they’re doing.
Kat seems to like dogs that you can utilize as a mop in an emergency.. 😯
Oh, so they’re a herding dog :nod: I love herding dogs. :love:
yep, Murrow is like my other two. I’ll take some pictures of him this weekend – all legs. I have done some sheep herding with Gigi. she is amazing. I don’t want to get knocked over by some sheep anymore though (which happens when you’re learning) – ever since the chest was cracked open. So NOW I’m going to try agility with Gigi. She’s pure athlete. I’m headed out in a bit to north atlanta to watch an agility trial. Can’t wait!
As you know, herding dogs have to have jobs to be happy! And yes, Fred, they do require wash & waxing but they do not shed which is essential in my book!
SUEP, can you give an example of the change the suffix/change the part of speech thing? I think that is where I get bogged down. Thanks!
Ooh, ooh. Let me try. I’ll do one that both proves and disproves it. Think is a verb. Thinking can be a verb, or an adjective.
When I’m thinking, sometimes I think that I am a thinking person.
Heaven is a verb, but heavenly is an adjective.
After two hours, I finally finished the English final.
Hey everyone….still alive in the flood here.
Hi Melina. Get ready for some more rain, and lots of wind, too.
I’m thinking that you all think that I’m thinking that thinking is….
BE SAFE IN THE STORMS FOLKS!
off to the agility trial! :gate:
Nellie played with a gigantic Newfoundland in the park today.:pup: It was funny. I got some crappy cell phone pics but I don’t have the doo hickey to transfer them.
Roxie wondered yesterday what the googlebot looks like. Apparently, it looks like this (that’s the mural on the wall of their data center).
By REBECA ROMERO, Associated Press Writer
OAXACA, Mexico – President
Vicente Fox announced Saturday he was sending federal police into the violence-wracked southern state capital of Oaxaca after a U.S. journalist and two Mexican men were shot to death. The clashes occurred Friday as leftist protesters barricaded streets as part of a five-month-old campaign to oust the governor.
Fox’s office issued a declaration saying that the federal forces would concentrate in Oaxaca on Saturday. His office later clarified that he was referring to federal police, not troops, but did not specify how many were being sent.
The president earlier had refused to send such forces to the city, insisting that the dispute should be resolve through negotiations. The conflict has been one of the biggest challenges for Fox, whose six-year term ends Dec 1.
(snip)
However, U.S. Ambassador to Mexico Tony Garza said the armed group may have been police. The Mexico City newspaper El Universal on Saturday published photos identifying some of the men firing at protesters as local officials.
http://tinyurl.com/wytfj
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The Mexican government is learning well from observing Bushco in action.. Start something then send your troops in to “restore” order. :yuck::eek::gate::omg:
We had a guest dog with us Thurs and Fri, and now one of the cats is so freaked out, that he is hissing and arching his back at Siggy, and basically staying in hiding somewhere, even though Siggy has always been the cats’ best buddy and protector, and the guest dog is a nice doggie who lives with a cat, and at least one of the other cats was schmoozing with her, and I don’t think this cat was even anywhere near her while she was here, ‘cuz he went into hiding right away. Poor Siggy doesn’t understand why his little buddy doesn’t love him anymore. Neither do I.
Sorry to re-post this info but I threw it on late last night so I am not sure how much it was seen.
Here is some new pogramming news from the Quake in SF. I hope I got this mostly right.
Thom Hartmann is coming on from 9AM-12PM replacing Franken. Rachel Maddow coming on for two hours, I think 3-5 PM and then a local hour after that. Randi Rhoads after that and then Malloy returns due to popular demand. (Sorry, I could not get behind Lionel) I guess EcoTalk stays in there and sadly Ed Schultz seems to be a darling of the station mgr. so he will remain live in the afternoon.
Is Franken leaving AAR? It seems that the station thinks it is going to happen but I think it is premature.
If I can disrupt Animal Talk for another second to move to food talk. my produce market had some cheap cardoon yesterday. Gypsy? Some help?
Finally, torrent folks might want to search mininova “Springer Radio” for some new downloads.
googlebot….I was thinking more like a mechanical crab…sorta like that star wars thing that pulls its arms in and rolls suddenly with mechanical clicks and whirrs…..
On the dog thing: Mt dogs always go crazy if anyone new stays with us or comes to live with us…but they work it out eventually. We still have an alpha problem with Lola and Puppy trying to kill Buck and visa versa. He beat the crap out of them both last week and Lola still has a big swollen gash over her eye, Puppy Angelina has a ripped up leg….
But they dont tend to attack other dogs…they just try to bark em to death!
They’ll settle down PJ….soon it’ll be just a bad memory….
So, just watched Letterman kick O’Reilly around pretty good. I only wish Dave had known that Northern Iraq was where Saddam Hussein had no control. O’Reilly is such a piece-o-crap.
Denny gets it right .is this the first time ??
Embattled Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert (R-IL), still reeling from press scrutiny over the Foley scandal, has ‘blogged’ at a conservative website in which he writes that Democrats think the GOP is America’s primary threat.
“In short, Democrats do not believe in the Global War on Terror,” writes Hastert at the site, Redstate. “I don’t mean that they don’t support it, though they don’t. What I mean is Democrats don’t believe the war actually exists.”
Hastert continues, “While Republicans believe the biggest threat to American freedom and security is the evil ideology that planned and executed the murder of 3,000 of our countrymen five years ago, and continues planning today, Democrats think the biggest threat to America is… Republicans.”
http://tinyurl.com/y9qmhl
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:nod::nod::nod:
Re: 108. Sorry, I was not at the computer:
Here’s an example:
I refuse to go home. Refuse is the verb.
My refusal is final. Refusal is a noun. To make refuse a noun I added al.
Here’s another: I education students. Educate is a verb.
Education is important.. Education is a noun. Adding tion made it so.
When I’m thinking, sometimes I think that I am a thinking person.
The first thinking is really an adjective. It’s one of those predicate adjectives. Am is the verb. The second thinking is an adjective that modifies person.
Think of it this way. Verbs have to agree with subjects. That’s why you used am to agree with I. Am is a linking verb. It links the subject to the adjective that describes it. Here’s a clearer example:
I am green. Green is modifying I. Words that modify nouns are adjectives, so green is an adjective.
I know grammar makes people nauseous, so forgive me. However, everyone really knows lots of grammar. If you didn’t you couldn’t make yourself understood. What people usually don’t know is the words that describe the grammar. And, of course, you’ve probably been subjected to lots of snotty people who say ridiculous things about grammar (much of which is not true) and make everyone fell as if he/she is dopey or speaks poorly.
I like grammar because it’s like the math of language. Occasionally, it helps me to be clear.
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I have been in the foulist mood this morning. I guess it all started when I waited for over an hour for the hair salon to open. I guess I should have known the open @ 9:00 A.M. sign really meant 10:00 A.M.:mad: Then there’s this damn video editor that’s driving me f***ing cRaZy this morning. For some damn reason my video clips of Lynn Chaney and Bill O’Reilly aren’t playing on the site. So I tried a re-edit. I wanna spit! Whoever knew putting up a new shower curtain in my bathroom would be the last straw. Those little snappy things are enough to put me in the loony bin. I need a new drug! Hurry before the man with the straight jacket arrives.
I’m on the air if anyone wants to listen. If you want to call me let me know here. I’m not signed onto skype at the moment.
Nick…you sound like me yesterday!
Im watching a tape if nip tuck and eating some whole foods pumpkin soup….
kicking back…..I need to go and fish my paper out of the flood…the boys were supposed to do it but they disappeared off into the mucky muck (probably over at the other house making a mess!)…oh well….today is my rest day….
Maybe Ill skype withyou in a little bit Nick…cant think of much to say, though its been a while since we talked.
yay, I’m still beating Fred…
I watched this weeks episode of “Lost” yesterday. This series is getting freakier. I like it. Though I can’t help but feel they are just stringing me along. Just another effort to drive me over the edge. We’d better win back the House and the Senate – else I’ll probably just quit my job and disappear from the face of the earth.
That’s cool Melina. I probably need to recover this morning before I attempt to converse.
The Rogue’s mid-term Meltdown:
http://www.counterpunch.org/carmichael10272006.html
I’m trying to stay online, internet connect is not good
“Rogue” presidency describes it nicely
First hand account of rendition here.
November 7th can’t come soon enough. :fist:
damn why is this so difficult…
yay, I’m still beating Fred…
Comment by Susan Joy — October 28, 2006 @ 3:29 pm
Mistress Susan :hubba:
But the question is, who’s enjoying it more, you or Fred? :spank:
sorry, Mistress Susan is no longer at the computer. This is a recorded message
I see the Repigs have identified the true threat to our democracy and it’s not Diebold’s ties to the Repigs:
Federal officials are investigating whether Smartmatic, owner of Oakland, Calif.-based Sequoia Voting Systems, is secretly controlled by Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez, according to two people familiar with the probe.
http://tinyurl.com/ygfty2
You may think of yourself as a “progressive.” You hear politicians all the time call themselves a progressive. The media often label someone a progressive. This progressive label seems to have a positive cachet.
I submit that there are far too many people, especially politicians, calling themselves a progressive. Exactly when the nation desperately needs real progressives to spearhead new third-party efforts at recapturing American democracy for we the people, fake progressives siphon off public interest and energy, especially among independents and disenfranchised eligible voters. In particular, there are too many Democrats calling themselves progressives. It comes down to this. It seems that virtually anyone these days who wants some change in society thinks it reasonable and beneficial to call themselves a progressive. As noted in Wikipedia, with this kind of superficial definition “This could include the entire political spectrum with the exception of traditional conservatives.”
more to the article from
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/163
Oct 28, 3:20 PM (ET)
WYOMING, Mich. (AP) – A school safety drill that included police officers in riot gear with weapons has caused concern among some parents who say it was too realistic and frightened some students.
Police in the western Michigan community of Wyoming entered two classrooms at Lee Middle and High School on Thursday and announced there was a threat to the school, The Grand Rapids Press reported.
Students, who were unaware police were conducting a drill, were taken from the classroom into the halls, patted down by officers and asked what they had in their pockets, the newspaper said.
“Some of these kids were so scared, they just about wet their pants,” said Marge Bradshaw, a parent with four children in Godfrey-Lee Schools. “I think it’s pure wrong that the students and parents were not informed of this.”
Officers wore protective gear, including vests and helmets, and carried rifles that were unloaded and marked with colored tape to indicate they were not live weapons, the newspaper said.
Diana Silva, a parent of an eighth-grade student, said the drill went too far.
“My child was with his face to the wall in the hallway of the high school,” Silva said. “I certainly don’t want anything like this happening to my child.”
Principal David Britten said students weren’t told ahead of time to make the drill as realistic as possible. Teachers were informed moments before it took place, he said.
“I think this is the best way to do it,” Britten said. “We’re not looking to scare anyone, but we want a sense of urgency.”
But Wyoming Police Chief James Carmody said his officers were not aware students and parents were not told. He said his department will mandate that parents be notified ahead of time in the future.
“The purpose was to show how we will evacuate the classroom, not to assault the classroom,” Carmody said.
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:eek::eek: and :eek::eek::eek::eek:
When we were in the 9th grade on an October afternoon in 1962 the CD sirens came on and they told us all to get home ASAP.
A guy I knew in college said that he was in the fourth grade at the time in Omaha and as he ran home a B52 took off every 2 minutes for a solid two hours. The noise was deafening.. :yuck::eek::eek::paranoid::paranoid::paranoid:
Hi Fred :yinyang:
:yippee::yippee: Hi Susan :yippee::yippee:
You are still 300 ahead of me nothing to fear but fear itself 😮
MEXICO CITY (AFP) – The Mexican government demanded that protesters lift their barricades and evacuate occupied buildings in the restive southern city of Oaxaca.
A statement from the interior ministry demanded “the immediate handover of the streets, plazas, public buildings and private property” taken over by protesters.
The federal demands come as President Vicente Fox on Saturday sent federal forces to the region to retake control of the city. Some 70,000 Oaxaca teachers have been on strike in the city for five months demanding higher pay and the resignation of the state governor.
The government had hoped to settle the problem in negotiations before the December 1 inauguration of president-elect Felipe Calderon.
Main access routes to the state capital, with a population of about 600,000, were blocked Friday by protesters’ barricades.
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:eek::eek::eek:
you are a worthy opponent. :omg::nod::pup::banana:
unlike those that really deserve… :tommygun:
Our election supervisor is a democrat but most of them around here know that an appropriate tree has already been designated for them in the case that the count and the exit poll does not agree..( re discussion on Ring of Fire):gate::omg::fist:
oh no! Think of the poor tree that will have to play host to that!
::inserts crying tree emo:::
:smack: I really need to stop thinking violence and start thinking sweet thoughts as befits a politically correct progressive :smack:
Yesterday evening Peter B Collins came up with a list of some 150 fortine 500 corps that had publicly stated to media outlets that they would with draw their commercials if they allowed any liberal view points. to be broad casted. Does anyone know where that list is ??:yuck::yuck::rant1::rant1:
that would be a good list to have
Oh liberal confession. I think I need it. Marc, Marc, come out, come out, whereever you are, I need to confess!!!! For I have been a bitc…er not a very nice liberal. I have been thinking third party thoughts again, along with the sexual ones I already told you about. Along with the violent thoughts. No connection, by the way, have no sexual thoughts of third party candidates, just thinking of voting for one. (and no plans on any violence to any candidate) Please Marc, tell me it’s true that I can be saved….I’ll do penance… I’ll follow the by-the-book gospel… and I’ll be NICE again… Marc, please tell me I can be nice and not be a revolutionary beeyotch with a deep Bronx attitude? Thanks, Marc…
:tommygun::tommygun: :cat: :love::omg: help! I can’t control it!!!!!
oh goodie, I managed to change two to Nice emos…
Let it out! Think of how much better you’ll feel once you get it out of your system.
:tommygun::tommygun::tommygun:
http://71.8.9.181:8000/listen.m3u
Bush — his sleeves rolled up, a wide grin on his face — gave out hugs and handshakes, cuddled babies passed up to him over the crowd and waved at his supporters. The wear of the campaign season showed in his voice, which sounded as if it might soon give out.
Good. Maybe if his voice actually does give out, he’ll STFU for a while. Every time I see his simian face, I want to put my fist through my TV. Which I know isn’t healthy for me OR the TV.
:fist::fist::fist:
:rofl2: haha had you fooled I had no plans of niceness, it would hurt my insides too much :rofl2::sdavid::pent::rofl2:
Don’t forget to fall back tonight … thud
oh yes. I almost did forget, thank you. Back in time one hour, so we can relive the past! Er, ok maybe we can just sleep an extra hour, damn, I wish things were more scifi and Star Trekish.
haha had you fooled I had no plans of niceness, it would hurt my insides too much
Comment by Susan Joy — October 28, 2006 @ 6:54 pm
OK, you got me. We should probably save the niceness for now anyway. It’s time to FIGHT!
:fist::fire:
Don’t forget to fall back tonight … thud
Comment by fred — October 28, 2006 @ 6:55 pm
I’m off to the store for some :40: , which usually makes me fall forward. But tonight I’ll try to remember to fall back. 😀
yep :fist::fist::fist: let’s do it
have fun! I’m going to eat chocolate, that’s my version of alcohol
This is old news i think, but apparently to some of the christo-fascist zomby brigade, Bush is not destroying the world fast enough for their tastes: http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/116038288540580.xml&coll=2
The Houston-based preacher said he believes that the Bush administration has delayed the second coming because U.S. foreign policy has blocked Christian missionaries from working in Iraq, Iran and Syria.
So apparently we’re not the only ones who consider Bush to be the anti-christ.
:rofl2:
By the way, since I probably won’t be back on the blog tonight…
I wanted to say to PJ that your commentary at the top of today’s thread is excellent. Would that we had a modern JFK to pull us out of this morass. We can only hope that someone is able to rise to the occasion if and when we are able to throw these clowns out of office.
:!::!::!:
Kevin makes me laugh. I want more chocolate. And where is Fred?
I’m going to fall asleep sitting up. I had 5 hours of sleep in the last three nights, and some kids decided to put Halloween make up on my face at a small party at work which I still have (a lot of glitter: girls painted stars and hearts, don’t ask) and I think it’ll take 7 hours to get it off so I will get even less sleep tonight. I hope this stuff doesn’t get in my eyes.
I apologize in advance (or after the fact, who knows what I did earlier) for any violent eruptions which may have been a result of hallucinatory sleep deprivation. I have been all over the internet doing crazy things. That you all kindly. I do get loquacious and lose ability to spell at times during these bouts as well.
I do not apologize for the machine gun, which incidentally gives me a thrill
somebody did away with the cut and paste feature, where did it go?
I’m sorry I said “eruptions” :omg:
think I can catch up to number one on the list? Whatdya say?
Well
I don’t know
about that
Berma Shave
hehe, ok
ok! Face is back to normal. Although the glitter is getting some of my keyboard keys stuck as if it didn’t already have enough problems
Sitting down for a few moments seems to be causing :yawn::yawn::yawn::yawn::eek:
Snort …:yawn::yawn::yawn:
I was just yawning myself.
hey guys come over to nicks station and hear some of my music!!
NEWARK, N.J. — Screeners at Newark Liberty International Airport, one of the starting points for the Sept. 11 hijackers, failed 20 of 22 security tests conducted by undercover U.S. agents last week, missing concealed bombs and guns at checkpoints throughout the major air hub’s three terminals, according to federal security officials.
The tests, conducted Oct. 19 by Transportation Security Administration (TSA) agents, also revealed failures by screeners to follow standard operating procedures while checking passengers and their baggage for prohibited items, said the officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity.
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One of the security officials familiar with last week’s tests said Newark screeners missed fake explosive devices hidden under bottles of water in carry-on luggage, taped beneath an agent’s clothing and concealed under a leg bandage another tester wore.
The official said screeners also failed to use handheld metal-detector wands when required, missed an explosive device during a pat-down and failed to properly hand-check suspicious carry-on bags. Supervisors also were cited for failing to properly monitor checkpoint screeners, the official said. “We just totally missed everything,” the official said.
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I feel so much safer now:eek::eek::eek::eek:
Hey Mel did Cnick make a pod cast of it .. ?? So I can listen after ….I…….wake …… up……:yawn::yawn::yawn:
Newark Airport? Where? How, what, whY?????
if I don’t come back in five minutes it means I’m sleeping
wow, you guys are fun on a sat nite!! I dont know if he is taping…sblue and I are chatting with nick and listening to my music
http://71.8.9.181:8000/listen.m3u
Join Melina and sblueheron on skype here
i’m listening but i hear a watery blip every once in a while…what’s that? then i hear you guys….
i’m listening via itunes
:penguin:evil nick!
i lost the headset i had for skype…. how are you seanie?
Nightie Night!
chillin!
about to roll out of here just checking in from my mommies house
Drive safely, Seanie! :gate:
:penguin:crazy eurotrash listening to queers from alabama are on the internets!
hey sean, tell nick i’m the other one listeing via a mac. he keeps wondering who it is.
I’m listening
Let’s get toasty!!
NBC
No Skype, IC isn’t fast enough. 🙁
Abraham, Martin and John
once you have skype, then what? I have skype but don’t know what to do at that point……
Nick, I’ve loaded Skype, how do I get to your chat?
Kat….add me to your skype…melinabrown
oh, andy too
call nick at “c nick thomas”
OMG! I can hear you guys! :omg:
Do you have skype, Krista?
Could one of you guys tell me how to get onto the chat?
Plleeaassee?
Amazing there is no parties I can hear in my neighborhood this year. I live right next to the college.
no, i don’t have skype.
Type Cnickthomas on skype search!
Well, get on it, Krista!
how can i get in the chat? do i have to load skype?
you need to download skype.com KP!
I hear the purring cat. How much room does skype take up?
I’m downloading it now.
:cat:
Krista, have you downloaded it yet?
Um, hello everyone. So I’m listening to the chat, via the Dell Jukebox that automatically opened up on my Dad and step-mom’s computer. So who am I hearing now? You’re talking about Mac machines – oh, it’s Melina. And…cnick?
What are you speaking into? I don’t have skype here, and can’t fool too much with this computer. So I’ll just write, I guess.
Seanie, I’m on Staten Island until Monday morning, travelling up to New Paltz Monday, returning to SI on Friday, flying back to SF on Saturday. Are you in the area?
Hi Andy, Melina, Cnick, (and Farmerkat?) – how can I get onto the chat? My Dad and stepmom have unlimited long distance on their land line. Can I call in on a landline? :knit:
Ah hah, so I guess some of you have some microphone containing software, maybe it’s Skype. Sorry I can’t join in with my voice. Are any of you reading the blog at the same time, or no?
Well, it says 1 user online, I guess I’m alone here. I’ll go back to what I was doing, getting ready to listen to Marc’s show from yesterday. :fire:
I’m not a mystery listener! I’m here, over here, voiceless on a Dell computer that doesn’t belong to me, so I don’t dare download any new software, like skype. (It would be just my luck to screw up my Dad and stepmother’s computer, would not be cool). :pup:
I’m a she, yup. Folks, read my post above – I don’t dare download skype or anything else. This isn’t my computer, it’s my Dad and stepmom’s. Would be just my luck to fuck up their computer with a download…:fustrate:
I just downloaded it on my friends’ old PC, no problem.
Woooh, yeah! Sorry I’m not going to risk the parent’s computer by downloading Skype, but I’m just starting to listen to Marc on Springer from yesterday. Listened to the Thursday show last night.
Melina, what shabby treatment on the Springer blog. WTF!
Woah, wait a minute – this is the one I listened to last night, I guess I need to listen to the Thursday show. :love:
Melina, I wanted to tell you, I wouldn’t have been able to meet up the other day, I was gone on a drive to New Jersey with my family all day. I’m happy to be in the bosom of my east coast family this week, although it’s a completely different existence than what I could tolerate for more than a few days (no interest in politics, activism, etc., and any attempt to discuss same are met with disapproval and reprimands). Not that I’m a total “people pleaser”, like cookie girl on the Springer blog, but I see the family so rarely, there really is no point in creating resentment by being obnoxious and shoving it down their throats.
Ok, have fun there on skype, you all. I did go check out the download, but my computer savvy only extends so far, I’m not going to push it on this computer that’s not mine to break. :doh:
top o’ the morning blogsters’
guess you’re all out celebrating halloween early.
pj: thanks for the pic of the googlebot — I like the long fingers, can just imagine him weaving them thru the internets or reaching thru the tubes to this site. btw: rub some catnip on the dog…
Hello Hello
Well reseting the clock did wonders for the posting on Sundays thread