Feeling a bit under the weather, so I haven’t got much to say except it just won’t be the same without Macaca.
Posted by pjsauter on November 10, 2006
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Feeling a bit under the weather, so I haven’t got much to say except it just won’t be the same without Macaca.
:nixon:morning fred! how goes colorado? did they raise the minimum wage?
:penguin::reaper:
:crap::crap::crap::crap::yuck::yuck::yuck:
:growl::growl::sheep: le
Listening to the thugs recap the results of elections on c-span.. all they can says is
Higher taxes
Bigger government
Poor economic( translated corporate profits) performance
Real Networks still needs to put that boot in for a mute button
It is too bad you can’t email 3d items to people
Yeah Colo passed their minimum wage increase with yearly adjustments.. That was one of the few ballot issues that passed that was people friendly. The Colorado electorate ( who apparently like Ed Shultz) are a bunch of morons.:gate::omg::reaper::reaper:
:fist:colorado was the first place i ever heard alex jones on the radio
From the news I envision two pens of pigs
One pen is destined for the pig retirement condos in the Cayman islands and Paraguay while the other pen is squealing delightfully with their curly tails wiggling madly while they run around in circles waiting for K street to begin to feed them.:gate::omg::jason:
It looks like the election is going to cause the Denver area defense contractors to start laying off people and the three or four big private employers to speed up their outsourcing and outright migration to off shore locations.
The financial services companies are also speeding up their litigation on past due accounts. I would assume that is because they forsee a repeal of the bankruptcy legislation.
Gasoline prices are also increasing
I hope the partying ends soon and the dems really do do something.:gate::omg::jason::jason::fist:
:crap:you think they are really gonna do something?
C-span lost the sound again.. But it was just the sound of democrats patting themselves on the back.:yuck::eek::rant1:
I think the corporate mood is that in ten years or less that the Chinese will surpass the SBR in terms of consumption of consumer goods so they want to reduce their costs and migrate as rapidly as possible to that market while using their media and money to keep the public in the SBR snowed about what is happening as much as possible . The politicians ( aka wealthy people) are more aware that they need to fatten their pockets in preparation for bad times ahead. :gate::omg::jason::jason:
It is somewhat unclear to me what the financial service industry is going to do with all the middle class houses they are reposing and filing leans against in that that are fewer and fewer buyers for that type of property. Perhaps the thought is to tear it down and then sell twenty acre plots to the wealthy to build 200,00 square foot mansions on. :yuck::shock::rant1:
On second thought make that 200 acre plots there is a awful lot of property being foreclosed on.:yuck::rant1:
:nana:then we can camp on the rich peoples estates and work on their farms!
No the rich will make us buy cardboard/tin/cinder block shacks ( will depend on how rich a salve you are) from them and live in squaller with raw sewage running down the middle of the dirt street while the media tells us how well off we are and we believe them.:bf:
Friday morning musings:
1) Glad to see you go go go go goodbye, Macaca. :nana:
2) And apparently Ken Mehlman is right behind him, so to speak. Anyone else see Bill Maher out him on Larry King recently? Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
3) Akron 31
Buffalo 16
OK, the Zips didn’t beat the spread, but anyone who actually placed a wager on this game has a SERIOUS gambling problem.
4) Rumsfeld is TOAST!!! I know it’s not news anymore, but I still really enjoy saying it.
5) Ribfest this weekend in downtown St Pete! And they actually have some good bands this year. Cheap Trick tonight, and Southside Johnny Saturday afternoon. South had a bad case of the flu last time he was in town three years ago, so it will be nice to hear him with a healthy throat.
6) Rush Limbaugh admits what all of us already knew… he’s a LIAR!!! :nana:
Time to get to work. What a week!
:banana::banana::banana:
:fire:
Something about that poor economic performance thing. Historically, the stock market has done better under Democratic governance than rethug. Why? Companies put less money into the pockets of upper level management types and invest in the company itself, including its people.
As for bigger government, with all the expensive government contractors necessary to fill those required positions instead of actual government employees we have a less efficient more costly government with little oversight.
Those are bottom lines that are documented realities. Once again the right side of the aisle can only see profits for the top one percent of our population and call it “the economy.”
As for defense equipment suppliers laying off people, we have a real need to re-equip the combat units that are state-side. Their equipment has been appropriated and either remains in or was sent to Iraq. That is why new units haven’t been rotated into Iraq. Rummy broke them. There is no real reserve left except some Marines and a handful of airborne combat brigades. Real scary.
good morning (isn’t it good to have the election over and — more or less –won?)
has anybody heard if marc’s on sam’s this am?
howdy fred, sean, kevin, anybody else out there!
Most defense contractors don’t make anything ( that may be why they haven’t replaced anything)
They get huge sums to design electronic and software systems for command and control and think tank advanced systems to defeat a 1980s style aggressor that no longer exists and that don’t do anything about terrorists. There are also a large number that are employed on cost plus contracts to run the high tech systems for the defense dept. :bf:
The public is so snowed by the Reich’s propaganda concerning the supposed inefficiencies of government ( things like fully paid health care, pensions,and paid vacations) compared to private industry that it will take some undoing to convince them that some socialism is a good thing. I doubt that with people like Limpprick and FAUX News spewing forth propaganda listened to by so many people that many people will see the truth.:bf:
:joe::sheep: morning sheeple, taking awhile go get going today. What’s new on this fine day?
THE SAM SEDER SHOW
Live from 9 AM to Noon EST
Paul Reickhoff, founder and executive director of Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America (IAVA) and author of Chasing Ghosts: A Solder’s Fight for America from Baghdad to Washington
Marc Maron, comedian and former host of Air America’s “Morning Sedition” and “The Marc Maron Show”
:yippee::yippee:Hi Susan :yippee::yippee:
Nothing ,zip, nada is happening (that is being reported at least).. The sound of democrats patting them selves on the back and liberal talkers telling us of our rosy future is everywhere:eek:
yeah, the victory was nice…now we’ll see what we’re going to see. :sammy: (don’t think I’ve used that particular emo before)
oops – almost forgot Marc has been on Sam Seder lately…have to listen. I’m home today because of the phone repair guy
Good Morning :joe:
:banana::banana: Hey Krista :banana::banana:
Did you ever find out what happened in your neighborhood the other night ??
What is on my mind is the “how” parts, not the “what” parts.
The “what” includes fixing our courts with all those ideologues sitting on too many benches. They are the real activists rewriting our laws in their corporate images.
Another “what” is stopping the looting of our pension plans. With CEO salaries running over 400 times the average worker – I quote it from all sorts of sources but have yet to see the original sources quoted – we need some ‘splaining and some equitable benefits paid back to the working class.
Also, government contracting for the sake of corporate profits must end. Contractors are much more expensive than real government employees and don’t allow direct control to the government officials in charge.
Fixing healthcare is probably the most important project for the 110th Congress. The costs are forcing millions of citizens into poverty and threatens the economy and every government budget in the country. When people on fixed incomes must chose between eating or a trip to the doctor it is the society that is sick. And by that standard ours is the sickest society in the so-called developed world.
Well one will have to see how effective the peoples voice will be with a democratic congress
The democrats could have made an issue out of the right wing positions and backgrounds of Bushes Supreme court nominees and filibustered there appointments but they didn’t
A lot of dems voted for the bankruptcy bill too.
Generally once you elect them the money speaks to them not the electorate ( at least for the next two years) :bf:
Just like when Clinton signed NAFTA, we have to keep a closer eye on the Dems now. Remember, they’re only the LESSER of the two evils.
The election process in the SBR is much like investing in the stock market. You give someone your vote and hold your breath. With no power of recall the politician can do anything they want for either the next two or six years. :bf:
MEXICO CITY — Mexico City’s assembly on Thursday voted for the first time in the country’s history to legally recognize gay civil unions, a measure that will provide same-sex couples with benefits similar to those of married couples. The mayor was expected to sign the measure into law.
The bill, which does not approve gay marriage, allows same-sex couples to register their union with civil authorities, granting them inheritance and pension rights, as well as other social benefits. Lawmakers were still finalizing the details.
http://tinyurl.com/yy9cxp
Its nice to see that Mexico city is more liberal than most states in the SBR:bf:
I would like to see the new Dem majorities tackle clean elections, first. It should be a federal crime to interfer with the right to vote or to engage in voter supression tactics.
I love Mexico City! Seriously – except for the pollution (which sucks) and elevation (hard to get used to for me) it’s a wonderful city, with a lot of friendly people, interesting archetecture, and close to the pyramids of Teotihuacan. I could probably live there. Good to know its politics are acceptable also
high hopes for the next 2 years?
not me. but fred, besides the dem’s back patting and the rethugs wound licking and blame shifting, I hear the distinct sound of the breaks being applied to the destructive juggernaut that’s been
bearing down on all of us.
it’s going to take some time to reverse direction. i’d be happy with re-funding CHIPS & veterans’ benefits, sending some support to naw’lins, declaring victory and at least beginning to get out of iraq…hell, i’ll be happy if we don’t start any new wars.
I don’t expect a whole lotta good in the near future but i’m not fearing as much bad.
the election certainly went better than I had any reason to hope it would.
not sayin’ don’t keep on pushing, guys.
time for sam and, hopefully, marc!
+Saint of the Day+
Theoctista of Lesbos (VAROOM)
(also known as Theoctisteria)
. A nun of Lesbos, Theoctista became a hermitess on the Isle of Paros. The story of her last “Holy Communion” seems to be that of an “arrangement” with a Sr. Mary of Egypt.
:priest:
:pirate::tommygun:
Free Sammy Cam! :love:
AIRO, Egypt – Egypt’s president came out strongly against hanging
Saddam Hussein, saying in remarks published Thursday that it could make Iraq explode into more violence. But Iraq’s prime minister said the execution could take place by the end of the year.
Hosni Mubarak of Eygpt broke an uneasy silence among Arab leaders over Sunday’s verdict by an Iraqi court, which convicted Saddam for the killings of some 150 Shiite Muslims after an assassination attempt against him in 1982.
Mubarak, a regional heavyweight and a top U.S. ally, appeared to speak for many in the region who are uneasy about seeing a former Arab president tried and sentenced — no matter how much they disliked Saddam’s regime. Analysts suggested Arab leaders are worried about the precedent an execution would set, and said Arab publics often identify with their leaders.
http://tinyurl.com/y7dqfz
Marc Maron will be on Sam Seder’s show the third hour. That is 11:00 EST, 10 Central, 9 Mountain, 8 Pacific and 6:42 in Baltimore…
Take him out the same way that Egypt did sadat.
:tommygun:
:jason:
Saddam Hussein should simply disappear. No announcement, no public display, no answers, no grave, no martyr. I don’t care where he goes but a good suggestion is half way between Tahiti and Hawaii. Send him on a junket to study the disappearance of the SS Minnow. Those poor people…
Exile him to Lesbos.
my computer sucks and myspace is sucking for me right now and this blog is verrrry slow!!!! ouch, did I complain out loud?
I say send him to Camden, NJ
So we get to watch Sam through the breaks, cool. We get to see the wheeels turn. Wow, I might be willing to pay for that, especially if Marc is available too.
I live in New Jersey and I’m damn proud of it
Camden is my home.
There’s certainly a lot that needs to be done, and much of it will be difficult to get through, because it will need to be done with the cooperation of the House and Senate Republicans. But, having control means being able to set the agenda. Some things will be easier than others, and Republicans will be much less likely to provide cover for the lamest of lame duck presidents at this point.
I believe raising the minimum wage is a done deal. How much, and how fast remains to be seen, but it’s something that would have passed in this Congress, had it come to a vote. IMHO, that will not only be good for people on the lower end of the wage scale, but for the economy – the real economy – in general.
I think there’s an excellent chance of getting a veto-proof majority for federal funding of stem cell research. In fact, you may see some sort of a deal to avoid a veto.
I think the election, coupled with this Baker commission report, will pave the way for getting the US out of Iraq, though, again, the how and how fast (probably not as fast as most of us would like) is TBD.
I think there’s an excellent possibility that some real movement toward Global Warming initiatives is now possible. Maybe even an independent commission headed by Al Gore, or something along those lines.
You’ll also see a lot more oversight on the executive branch, with some real investigations into Katrina, 9/11, War Profiteering, and other stuff. Oh, and I’m not sure why anybody thinks it would be a really great thing to not even be in power yet, and crow loudly that you’re gonna impeach Bush. That accomplishes nothing, except to give the Republicans the leverage they need to be obstructionist and not allow any substantive accomplishments in the next two years. If the Democrats stick to popular issues that will be difficult (if not impossible) for Republicans to block, they’ll look like a party that actually knows how to rule the government, and have a good shot at picking up even more seats in ’08 (I believe a third of the Senate seats up are Republican), and hopefully the White House.
Now, if they quietly investigate and come up with clear, obvious and easy to understand evidence of High Crimes and Misdemeanors, then they’ll have no choice (sadly, oh so sadly) tbut o draft articles of impeachment. And if all the investigations do is to continue to politically cripple the Bush administration, the Republicans will continue to run away from him, and the Democrats can get some stuff done. And hopefully roll back some of the really destructive and unconstitutional laws and practices that have occurred post-9/11.
Of course, the tendency for the DLC types will be quickly forget how this majority came to pass, and to start posturing and positioning, and doing all those things that we hate. That’s why we’ll all need to stay on their asses. But it aint gonna all go exactly the way we want it to, ‘cuz that’s just not how it works. For one thing, “we” probably don’t even exactly want the same thing(s). And there are a lot of other people out there, too. Let’s work on the things the majority of us can agree upon first, before we cut each other’s throats over other things.
Something that the third-party candidates we all know and love have an advantage on is that they’ll never get elected to anything (well, except for Mister outsider, Joe Lieberman), so they never actually have to worry about how they’ll get anything done.
Springer is talking about election dirty tricks in Sarasota County, Florida. K. Harris’s old seat was retained by Repos through funny stuff.
ok, so maybe we should reconsider. Hoboken or Tenafly or Weehawken sound better
SBR! Do your patriotic duty: Shop till you max out your credit.
:tommygun:
SBR Rules! Do all of the political activism you please, because it will make no difference. The economy is permantly beyond your reach.
:fu::omg::rofl2:
:tommygun:
The repugs have been in power since 1994 and still act like obstructionists! They have done their damnedest to turn the clock back to 1929 and we all have heard how well that worked out. They are obstructing not only our society but human civilization. If they can’t own it they didn’t want it to exist.
I don’t think there’s a damned thing we can do personally. Which translates to “the economy is wonderful” That’s what the polls say so I must believe it.
PJ, I agree with you and I hope you comment also means you’re feeling better.
I think clean elections that include paper trails and consequences for dirty tactics is one of the issues on which there can be bi-partisan agreement and which Bush would find extremely hard to veto.
I’m not sure what polls have said the economy is wonderful. In fact, I think something like 82% of the people asked in the exit polls Tuesday said the economy was either “exteremely” or “very” important. And they didn’t vote for change because they thought all was well.
From our email campaigns on the Supreme court nominees to many other things it would seem that for the the next two or six years after you elect someone you get whatever they think is right usually driven by the direct deposits to their bank accounts.:bf:
Yeah, election reform is big on several fronts. There’s the voter suppression techniques (of all flavors), the goddamn electronic machines, election financing, and more. Personally, I think there ought to be one federal standard.
If you’re gonna insist on these freakin’ electronic machines, then they need to run a standard open-source software, on a standard open-source platform. All source code open to the public for inspection.
Elections should be, at a minimum, over four days – say, Fri thru Mon. Better yet, over a week. Have all the polls open and close synchronously across the country. Give everybody a voter “ATM” smart card, and a PIN, and let them vote at any voting machine they want. Give them a two-part receipt – if it looks OK, you keep one and put the other in a box. If it looks wrong, you go and your vote was voided and you go again. Recounts are triggered, not by the closeness of the election, but if results vary more than a statistical amount over exit polls.
I guess I saw one poll on TV during the election day coverage and the TV host (I forget who) was saying that people didn’t think the economy was important. Maybe that poll was out of the norm, though. I know most of the people who consider it pretty important.
Oh, and don’t they teach “how the gubberment works” in school anymore? WTF?
http://www.myspace.com/dallasairamericaradio
Part of the NYC 1st grade curriculum is taxes. Think about explaining this concept to 5 and 6 year olds.
The “pundits” say the economy if great because of the stock market. The “people” know it isn’t great (except the rich people), because wages are lower, prices are higher, and most of the jobs suck. That’s why raising the minimum wage is a big winner for the Democrats, I think, and a smart thing for them to do first. It’ll be a big seller in two years.
Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean told Jon Stewart on Comedy Central’s Daily Show that, despite what his audience may be wishing for, Democrats had no plans to impeach President Bush.
“I know half the audience wants us to impeach the president, and all that kind of stuff,” Dean said, “but we’re not going to do that.”
Stewart joked that half of the audience were illegal immigrants, so don’t listen to them.
Dean was asked to make some kind of noise to show his happiness, and Stewart promised not to replay it, as the media did with his notorious speech after losing the New Hampshire primary in 2004.
Dean complied with a hearty “booyah.”
Dean mentioned raising the minimum wage, and health insurance as a couple of Democratic goals, now that the party is in control of both houses in Congress.
video at link
http://tinyurl.com/yjdsb8
First grade? Taxes? I was thinking more along the lines of teaching kids how a bill becomes a law, and that kinda shit.
Texas progressives keeping Air America alive in that region…cool
Here is an interesting blog post I pulled from Majority Report blog:
Why the hell does Joe Lieberman keep coming out smelling like a rose? Fuck Joe Lieberman.
Posted by: Anonymous Coward at November 10, 2006 9:57 AM
I dunno but more than enough weirdness has surrounded him for me to be entirely comfortable with it.
WEIRD CONNECTICUT NUMBER GAMES: AND HERE COMES JOE LIEBERMANN…
In Connecticut Ned Lamont (Dem.) lost EXACTLY with THE SAME number of votes as Phil Giordano (Rep.) collected in 2000… Exactly 448,077 votes. Strange? Bizarre? Any odds for a coincidence like that?
Posted by: Anonymous Coward at November 10, 2006 10:01 AM
Shit happens, I guess.
Stewart promised not to replay it? I’m trying to process that….
Democrats are set to subpoena
The new majority is expected to hold hearings on military spending and the Iraq war — just for starters.
http://tinyurl.com/yj5typ
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Democrats like to keep their electorate confused. 😮
The Dallas AAR station is now a Catholic Radio station.
Yeah, I saw Howard on TDS. He had quite the smile on his face. A real vindication of his leadership and the 50-state strategy. That fucking Rahm Emmanuel is a weasel and the epitome of the kind of sleazy corporate Democrat that needs to be neutered.
oh that is weird. The Mercury retrograde must be particularly severe over the state of Connecticut. I STILL don’t know why Lieberman won. I don’t buy that there were that many neocons in CT. If they are I don’t know if I want to travel there anymore.
I’m confused as to how I should be confused by that.
Do they teach them about taxes or that taxes are why when you buy candy for a buck at the 7/11 its costs you $ 1.08, or $1.12 or $ 1.14
Well, the Republican candidate got 10% of the vote. That means that a lot of Republicans voted for Lieberman (remember, CT has a Republican governor). And a lot of Democrats voted for him, too, as did a lot of Independents.
well that happened in NY to WLIB…oh yeah, AA supposedly moved to a radio station that puts out less watts of power than a dry cell radio a kid can put together as a science project….
‘Aliens could attack at any time’ warns former MoD chief
By CHARLOTTE GILL
Last updated at 14:03pm on 10th November 2006
UFO sightings and alien visitors tend to be solely the reserve of sci-fi movies.
So when a former MoD chief warns that the country could be attacked by extraterrestrials at any time, you may be forgiven for feeling a little alarmed
During his time as head of the Ministry of Defence UFO project, Nick Pope was persuaded into believing that other lifeforms may visit Earth and, more specifically, Britain.
His concern is that “highly credible” sightings are simply dismissed.
And he complains that the project he once ran is now “virtually closed” down, leaving the country “wide open” to aliens.
http://tinyurl.com/ygmbux
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:shock::roll::paranoid:
According to Marc, AAR lost WLIB because Danny Goldberg failed to renew the contract, which they had the option to do. As soon as it lapsed, WLIB went for a better deal.
By the way, don’t tell anybody I said that, ‘cuz it might not have been meant for public disclosure.
SARASOTA — As national attention focuses on voting results in the hotly contested 13th Congressional District race, election officials will work through the three-day weekend preparing for impending recounts.
Sarasota County Supervisor of Elections Kathy Dent called on state officials for help. Democrats and voters’ rights activists have questioned the results of the race, in which there was a large undervote and a 368-vote margin between Republican Vern Buchanan and Democrat Christine Jennings.
The state Division of Elections pledged to audit the county’s voting system after any recounts to see why more than 18,000 voters — 13 percent — who showed up at the polls voted in other races but not the Buchanan-Jennings contest.
Gov. Jeb Bush called the 13th district results “an unusual anomaly” on Thursday
http://tinyurl.com/ymjg5h
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Here we go :reaper::reaper::reaper:
Poor Marc, I don’t think he’ll see a penny from AAR if they don’t find a buyer (and even then, I doubt he’ll get 100%). If they don’t find one by mid-December, I think, they go from Chapter 11 to Chapter 7 (liquidate the assets and pay out whatever they come up with; a lot of those guys, like Sinton, Kreeger, etc, are into them for a bundle).
JOHN CONYERS: Will he push for Bush impeachment hearings? He says no
If U.S. Rep. John Conyers is bluffing, it’s a good one.
The Detroit Democrat, who as ranking minority member of the House Judiciary Committee wrote a bill to consider impeachment hearings against President George W. Bush, now says he won’t push for that if he gets the committee chairmanship.
The soon-to-be House speaker and fellow Democrat, Rep. Nancy Pelosi of California, has said repeatedly that no impeachment hearings will be held.
“I am in total agreement with her on this issue,” Conyers said in a statement Thursday. “Impeachment is off the table.” He was not available for further comment.
…
In his statement, Conyers said election reform would be a priority for him. He’d likely focus on 2004 presidential election irregularities in Ohio and on Bush’s domestic spying program.
http://tinyurl.com/wld2c
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:reaper::reaper::reaper:
Internet explorer 7 sucks .. initial cut…
Off with IS’s heads :gate::omg:
:rant1::rant1::rant1::rant1:
Marc!:billcat::yippee::yippee::cat::pup::bow:
where is everybody?:paranoid:
Marc is on Sam!
Hey what about my knit cap? who is Rochelle?
sblueheron and Marc :yippee: 😎 :yippee:
Salutations! :joe:
:hot: hey Druid!:pup::joe:
it was getting lonely here…:knit:
now:yippee::boobs::banana::cool:
aquaman!:peace:
Hey Blue :hubba:
hey what’s with the “stink-eye”?
:paranoid:
:rofl2:
That’s the hubba hubba!
SBHeron, It’s Friday :boobs:, but Fred hubby hates Randi too.
(Another woman “bouncing” :rofl2:)
Hi Aquaman 😎 😉
My heart :love: leapt when Sam congratulated Marc…but I guess it was for his efforts on the radio not some new show…:-(
Where is Melina?
I hope everyone there is well.
Yeah Blue I thought he had a new show too.
Hey Druid! :hubba:
who is the creep on the Seder blog named”dada”?:tommygun:
I don’t usually use the tommygun emo but…:fu:
sblueheron, but Marc is Haunting around and will be back on air soon. :nod: :cat:
sblueheron, Ya look mighty fine Missy, with a gun.
:pirate::cool::wink:
I don’t think that “how a bill becomes a law” is taught before junior high. That’s probably OK as kids need experience, info and maturity to understand the concept. The concept of taxes is taught in the first grade because the people who design curricula are IDIOTS who must prove that they have not seen or spoken to a child in a least a decade.
girding my loins for a small battle with irs today:fist::jason::pirate::parrot::slap:
Hey Fred, I’ve been using IE7 for quite a while now (from the Rc’s to the final version), and I don’t find it particularly sucky. The older version of the Yahoo toolbar killed it dead, but the new toolbar works fine with it. Opera is the fastest loading, that I’ve used, and if I need to get online and check something quickly, that’s the one I use. Otherwise, I use FF2 almost all of the time, because of the extensions (particularly Adblock), but it takes roughly 30 seconds to load on open, and it tends to lock up on a regular basis (that might very well have a lot to do with the combination of extension I have). SeaMonkey is a very stable a relatively fast Mozilla offshoot. If I had a Mac, I’d give Camino a try. It looks pretty nice.
:banana::pup::banana:i am going to burlington!!!!!
greetings from school!!
well, i guess i missed Marc on Sam’s show, but i’m hoping Cnick will have it up later:love::banana:
how is everyone?
So, I had to take the dog out and missed Marc. Anything interesting? I take it he hasn’t announced a new show on Nova M or anything.
Hey QG! You know you can just chat tomorrow night if you don’t have a headset or mic yet. That’s what Travis did last week.
No not yet.
I thought he was in talks or something with them.
The Madison, Wisconsin AAR station will go to an all-sports
format starting Jan. 1, 2007
http://morningseditionists.com/msblog/wp-images/smilies/banghead.gif
:fustrate:
So is there anything streaming but Franken right now. By the way Malloy spanked him good last night!
:spank:
PJ you coming to utica next week?
hi guys
just about to hit the freeway home. still raining here but it’s all good! the usual talk has been going on this morning but rethug replaced by spineless corporate demodorfs or whatever.
i’m just happy that the whole world is a little safer this week and I just got to hear marc on sam’s show… STREAMING LIVE on my handheld thingy! hooray!!!
hope spring a turtle!
on to face the traffic.
😳 My bad :spank: I have a mic/headset and speakers
BUT I LOST MY MIC/HEADSET AMONGST MY PAPERS AND “SHELVES” AND BOOKS AND STUFF WAAAAAAA 🙁
I THOUGHT I WOULD HAVE FOUND IT BY NOW BUT IT HAS BEEN A WEEK PLUS 😮 ❗
Hmmmm the same time Hubby is “visting” Hmmmmm
Hey Sean. I dunno. I guess it depends on what I have going for school, and whether or not I can shake whatever the hell has been wrong with me for the last week or so. Been feeling like shit, barely able to get out of bed most of the time (getting all wrapped up in the election didn’t help much, either, but at least it didn’t all turn to shit as I think we were all worried about).
me worry?:rofl2: ok well i should be there tuesday and wednsday so let me know then!
MSNBC Poll: Do you believe President Bush’s actions justify impeachment?
So far:
87% Yes, between the secret spying, the deceptions leading to war and more, there is plenty to justify putting him on trial:
4.4% No, like any president, he has made a few missteps, but nothing approaching “high crimes and misdemeanors.”
7.3% No, the man has done absolutely nothing wrong. Impeachment would just be a political lynching.
1.8% I don’t know.
Andy, please tell us what Malloy said about Frankin. I read last night, that you said Malloy went after Frankn but I’d love to know exactly why. Thanks.
Well I’m off to get a replacement power supply, mine has capacitors that are starting to squeal.
malloy said franken was snooty and that he buys the official stories hook line and sinker for the most part (9-11 election fraud)
Oops, OK when Malloy and Kathy went up to NYC earlier this year to talk the AAR bigwigs, apparently Franken was really “snotty”. Mike went on about Franken being a “Superstar with a multi-million dollar salary” and so he guessed it was OK to treat the underlings that way.
That’s basically the gist of it, but clearly Malloy was not impressed with al.
Mike said it a lot better.
Later, I’ve got to get this PSU. The ssquealing’s driving me nuts.
Marc on Sam today, mp3, about 18 minutes, 4.13 MB.
basically he called franken a DLC asswhore of the democratic party
if only i could find it on my podcast 🙁
Well, better late than never, Linc.
A damn shame that he has to be sacrificed, while Lieberman gets rewarded.
Impeachment has grown stale; by the time the show is ready for broadway, we’ll be into the next presidential campaign.
Its better to investigate and successfully prosecute criminals; and to nail down in the public mind what crimes against the constitution have been committed by Bush and Cheney, to roll back the most egregious power grabs, and to build up structures to prevent future abuses of power. Americans are fundamentally libertarian, even if they disagree on specifics. Bush must be made so vile in the public mind, and his name so permanently blackened, that his speech to the 2008 GOP convention will be scheduled for 2:30 on Tuesday afternoon, and Cheney holed up in his Wyoming compound like Rudolph Hess, with his wife Rumsfeld. Impeachment adds nothing to this, and will almost certainly cause the media whores to twist the story in the GOPs favor.
The first order of business for the Dems, in my view, even before they take control, is to instill some fear in Timmuh [his sponsers rely on government largess] because starting with this Sunday’s show, he’s continuing to say fuck you to the democrats. He needs a good beating, and right away.:sammy:
I agree, though if they can take Cheney down and put him in prison, that would be cool.
And then over in Germany, there’s this:
The last six years are a bad episode of “I Claudeus” – without the nudity of course.:sammy:
It would be very cool if Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld were unable to travel overseas because of outstanding warrants, a la Kissinger.:sammy:
:nana:wankers!
http://www.tnr.com/blog/theplank?pid=56467
Someone want to break the news to Carville that he’s irrelevant?:sammy:
He’s kinda fun to look at, though, in a train wreck/car accident sorta way.
Dean’s 50-state plan paid off big time in this election, and should continue to provide dividends for years to come. Carville should be kissing Dean’s ass, not trying to tear it apart.
Of course, this is a guy who puts up with Mary Matalin, so obviously there’s something wrong with him to begin with. :nana:
These people – Carville, Rahm Emmanuel, etc. – have gotten so enamored of their role as conventional wisdom geniuses that they just can’t fathom that their time has past. In fact, they really never were right about anything. They had one blip in Bill Clinton – say what you want, but an excellent “candidate” and by all accounts an intelligent, hard working, curious, hard working and engaged politician – and otherwise, nothing. 8 years of Clinton sandwiched around 12 years of Reagan/Bush, and 8 more years of Bush (if he makes it that long). Ant the only reason there was a Carter for four years in there was because there was a Nixon.
These are the people that we really need to fight, or it’ll be business as usual.
We gotta keep the devil way down in the hole.
If you read that Helperin book The Way to Win, 50% of it is a love letter to Karl Rove and his ‘genius’ in manipulating the electorate and the media. [Bad timing for a book eh?] – For once, I’d like to see someone condemned for doing evil things in a clever way –
Not everything the nuns told us was wrong. :sammy:
128. I’m still convinced that if we let these people walk, no one in the international arena is evr going to remotely trust us again.
129. This is amlost a given. Once they’re civilians, if set foot on any foreign soil that has signed the Geneva conventions, they’re toast.
Ahhh, squeal free power!
SARASOTA, Fla. – Back in 1902, a scientist examining the smooth, grapefruit-size brain of a manatee remarked that the organ’s unwrinkled surface resembled that of the brain of an idiot.
Ever since then, manatees have generally been considered incapable of doing anything more complicated than chewing sea grass.
But Hugh, a manatee in a tank at a Florida marine laboratory, doesn’t seem like a dimwit. When a buzzer sounds, the speed bump-shaped mammal slowly flips his 1,300 pounds and aims a whiskered snout toward one of eight loudspeakers lowered into the water. Nosing the correct speaker earns him treats.
http://tinyurl.com/y4my3h
I never thought Karl Rove was a genius. He has no sense of shame and is willing to doing anything, no matter how shameful. That gave him an advantage – even amongst politicians, who aren’t exactly know for their scruples – but it never made him a genius.
I don’t think they necessarily need to be let off the hook, just that there’s not an advantage in saying “when we come to power we will impeach them.” I fact, it’s an advantage to say you don’t want to impeach them. That way, you can investigate w/o looking like you have any agenda beyond getting to the truth. And when you find enough evidence of clear obvious crimes – not some travel office bullshit, or a land deal that they actually lost money on, or even – dare I say – that somebody got a blowjob – then you can say, “damn, we didn’t wanna impeach the fucker, but, hey, what else can we do?”
I want Cheney to be the first to go, though, ‘cuz I think he’s the biggest culprit of the bunch.
I see what you’re saying. Alright that makes sense.
If they get cheney first, bush gets to twist in the wind a little
Well something other than same-o same-o has to happen to the people in the Bush admin who were the architects of this war in IRAQ or the Arab countries will begin to see AQ and internal forces removing their puppet SBR supported dictatorships and turning off the oil supply to the SBR.. That would get the attention of congress much faster than any domestic email campaign would.:bf:
Classic Rummy , for old times sake.
Don’t watch the replay of Hardball if you have a stomach disorder. He’s got on some GOP Zombie Congressbroad from Tennessee giving the party line on Iraq, about how we made “a few mistakes” in Iraq. Infuriating lying bitch, with a condescending smile that makes you want to break her nose. I’m not a violent man, but for her I change my mind: I LIKE WATERBOARDING! CHENEY’S RIGHT! ITS NOT TORTURE! STRAP HER DOWN! ITS MY TURN! ONE MORE MINUTE! SHE’S STILL BREATHING!
Sorry. Nasty Jim Moran was on the other side, and he could hardly conceal his contempt, nor could Tweety Bird. Where the fuck do they spawn these creatures? :sammy:
My oh My Ms Rants head is sure swelled up today 😮
no, the media have not changed with the new changes taking place. They’re still reciting the same spin and have the same “pundits” saying the same things. Then after watching TV I read other news sources, or listen to AA or read some blogs and I feel like the TV world was the Matrix but I just entered Reality…”
You really expected the “media” to change directions..:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:
no…
the same corporations still own them and control the, right? :nuts:
The media is dominated by pundits that make millions working for corporations that make zillions so they have to live in the alternate reality or the constant fear of waking up to several guys in sweatshirts and ski masks with automatic weapons pointed at their heads would make them drive off a cliff :shock::paranoid:
Then again, I don’t know that the Democrats actually will do the kind of investigations they need to do. These fucking politicians are all in the same union, and tend to protect each other – and their corporate masters. They may be all nasty on the teevee, but they go into the back rooms and stick their tongues in each other’s ears and make nice-nice. I think we got a couple of candidates in that are beholden to the people – for now, until they start listening to the Convention Wisdom people and forget all about us. I hope that doesn’t happen, but that’s why we have to keep on top of ’em.
But, first things first. This lame duck session could really be a problem – the Senate Democrats better filibuster every goddamn thing.
Pa. may still make a clean sweep
We better get that tainted egg salad to the senate dining room pronto,:eek:
tongues in each others ears….yeeesh.
Has anyone more on the story that Lamont received the same number of votes as the Republican candidate in an earlier CT election?
Springer was on the Sarasota Republican voter fraud story. If he can see the light, perhaps Franken will too.
I wonder what this attack campaign against Franken is all about? Malloy was trashing Springer on a radio show, then substituted for him a little later. I think on air dressing downs is sometimes used by Malloy to get colleagues’ attention in order to work things out. I don’t really know, though.
(I don’t think Malloy has much use for Ed Schultz, though. Anyone know more on this feud. I read somewhere that Schultz responded to an attack by Malloy. But I have not pursued it.)
I caught a little of what Franken said on his show recently about voter fraud. Something about the shenanigans not being enough to sway the elections. I heard him say words to that effect in Portland, earlier in the year. Franken can change his mind.
Eh, Randi Rhodes used to also say similar things about Franken. I don’t like when AA hosts trash each other. It says something about the person who’s doing the trashing more than the trashee. Franken holds up pretty well in the ratings for someone who is as boring and unfunny as everyone says he is. Maybe it’s because he’s actually smart and interesting…
It is fine to question Franken’s position on voter fraud, though. That is what I think is the source of Malloy’s beef with him is.
I love conspiracy theories. But I recognize that most of the real interesting ones have incredible elements. Anyway, Malloy is one who believes without weighing evidence in such things, ie, JFK, WTC. Hey! But that is part of what makes Malloy interesting.I think there is enough overwhelming evidence to demonstrate voter fraud. So he was right on this one. Al seems to be more skeptical about such conspiracies. This level-headed attitude for the most part serves him well–usually. But it perhaps keeps him from examining the Republican voter fraud stuff. One Big Tent.
I would like to see him examine voter fraud. But I’m sure if you listen you can hear things that Franken talks about that Malloy doesn’t get into also. (and I do like Malloy). And you’re right, he could change his mind.I don’t think voter fraud stories in general are going to gain much ground because of the Democratic win, and that’s a shame.
hey everybody!
Well, Springer brought up the Sarasota voter weirdness. So there is hope for other Dem mainstreamers.
Blue CT!
they’re going over which senators and which reps are going to chair which committees now on MSNBC…it’s really surreal listening to the new titles… these are not “conservative” dems on a lot of these committees…Charles Rangel, Carl levin…
The Beast within Corrupted System:
http://www.counterpunch.org/garcia11092006.html
Superb brief analysis.
Andrea Stewart Cousins? NY-18. Is that your district, SJ. Rachel says that there is a controversy going on there. Apparently, the Big Blue Wave barely touched down on NY State.
Yes, Katrina was a big one. You could see the public turning against this administration from that debacle. It wasn’t just Iraq. And it was the other things listed here as well.
really? another controversy? Yes, I’m in 18 – I have to watch my local news station. I was pretty sure she won easily. I know there’s a reocunt going on in northern Westchester involving Republican Sue Kelly
Yeah, he was blinded by the light
Cut loose like a deuce, another runner in the night
Blinded by the light
He got down but he never got tight, but he’s gonna make it tonight
What is so strange about those lines, Rachel Maddow Show?
Hey Melina! 🙂
sounds like Bruce applies to many situations…
Rachel’s announcer plays the Manfred Mann version of those lyrics, then asks “What do those words mean?”
deep, Rachel. Of course in that version they mess up a lot of words.
I have to work on that painting.
Absolutely. “Wrapped like a dushin in the roaner in the night.”
:omg:
It makes me think about New Jersey.
Has anyone seen cnickthomas? I got some good music for him….
Will’s school had parents day today, in which we went orm class to class with our kids…it was long and it made me feel like starting to smoke again…in the girl’s room. There is something about any sort of institution that brings out the rebel in me! Will is the class clown and I am sort of worse….oh well….
His friend David has a sticker on his laptop the says “leave a kid behind, vote for bush”
you’re getting close to finishing it, aren’t you? Go for it :peace:
so, I missed marc on seder…..I suppose I have it now that Ive updated the old ipod….
What a freakin long day!
And tomorrow is goign to be worse!….at least the first part that starts very much too early for me…looking at a school with Will and Ben!
it’s incredibly NJ. And he’s the only one who can say “curly wurly” in a song and make it sound good
From Bradblog:
This just in from attorney Paul Lehto concerning the People’s Republic of San Diego, where one of the country’s most irresponsible Registrar of Voters, Mikel Haas defied the California Secretary of State by refusing to count paper ballots as “normal ballots” on Election Night.
Lehto says Exit Polling data commissioned from Zogby International shows a ‘6-Point Distortion’ from the “results” as so far announced by Haas’ office in the Francine Busby/Brian Bilbray U.S. House election in California’s 50th Congressional district..
NOTE: Busby (D) has appropriately refused to concede the race against her opponent Bilbray (R) until all votes have been properly counted. As of this moment, the San Diego County Registrar’s website shows “100%” of precincts reporting despite thousands of uncounted paper ballots, absentee ballots and provisional ballots. Those “results” show Bilbray leading Busby 53% to 43%.
In fact, however, given Haas’ defiance of the California Secretary of State’s order to provide an adequate number of paper ballots for all voters who, in California, may vote by paper for any reason if they wish, coupled with his irresonsible — and likely illegal — decision to send all of the county’s pre-programmed, election-ready, hackable Diebold touch-screen voting systems home on “sleepovers” with pollworkers for a full three weeks prior to the election, it is literally impossible for there to be any confidence in any of the reported “results” as announced for any election this year in San Diego. The county’s elections are now officially and wholly corrupted by Haas’ abominable and disgraceful election administration, fed by his apparent loathing of voters and democracy.
Mr. Leverett points out that there is a great deal of scientific discussion on what constitutes old growth. “For most of us,” he wrote in an article on southern New England forests, “old growth implies a multi-aged forest shaped by natural events over several centuries.”
Another definition says that old growth forests look largely as they would if Europeans had not settled North America.
For those of you who missed Marc maron this morning, KPOJ rebroadcasts the Sam Seder Show in the evening, 6-9 pst.
http://www.620kpoj.com/main.html
9pm-midnight for those living in the easternmost neck of the Ancient Forest.
:pent: :jesus::cat::pup::parrot::penguin: forestdwelling Marc fans thank you
Mr. Leverett was full of recommendations about what sites to visit. There is
* Katterskill Falls in the Catskills, with 60 acres of large, charismatic trees, 300 to 400 years old;
* the Shawangunks in New York;
* Sages Ravine in northwestern Connecticut, on the Appalachian Trail;
* a treasure of hundreds of thousands of acres in the Adirondacks, much of it in the West Canada Lakes area and near Piseco Lake;
* Cook Forest State Park in western Pennsylvania, with 250- to 300-year-old white pines;
* a New Hampshire black gum over 600 years old;
* trees in Massachusetts 500 years old.
The list goes on and on.
:omg:
:tommygun: :reaper:
http://tinyurl.com/yh46wk
Creepy. 😯
:!:BRING THE TROOPS HOME NOW:!:
:peace:
that reminds me, I still want to write up an article about that old growth forest in New Jersey…
Sages Ravine tumbles down a beautiful section of forest and rock along the extreme western tip of Connecticut and Massachusetts’ borderline. When there has been a lot of rain or snow melt, the series of falls and cascades are breathtaking. Even during times of drought a quiet, peaceful world can be found. Dark forest and steep hills nearly cover the ravine and the splicing of sunlight through the trees only adds to the drama. Though not the Grand Canyon by any stretch of the imagination, Sages Ravine is truly unique around these parts and a must-see spot for all hikers. And if you happen to be there on a day when there aren’t other visitors, you’ll feel a lot more remote than you actually are…
http://www.berkshirehiking.com/hikes/sages_ravine.html
They are everywhere, even in Ohio!
the Shawangunks I’m very familiar with…I want to visit those Kaaterskill falls, Bill Moyers talks quite poetically of them in the Hudson River series I have on video
Ohio! :joe::hot:
The legendary oak called “De dikke Eik van Oele” was said to be the biggest in girth in the Netherlands. It stood in Oele, near Delden in the Province of Twenthe. When the ancient oak was measured in 1910, it had a circumference of 6.7 meters. The famous tree was struck by lightning in 1925, and two years later, it blew down in a cyclone.
Not forgotten, in 1946 after World War II had ended, the stump of “De dikke Eik” was dug up and taken to the Natural History Museum of Enschede to be displayed. Because it was hollow, the exact age of the tree was difficult to calculate by annual growth rings, but it was estimated to have been about 300-years-old, originating in the early 17th century.
I think there are oaks in this region that are a couple of hundred years old. I’m pretty sure there’s one in the NY Botanical Garden, I remember it from giving tours
Over many centuries Germans have evolved a close relationship with trees. The German forest – “der deutsche Wald” – is the landscape most associated with German history and national identity. The Romantic painter Caspar David Friedrich (1758-1822) often painted gnarled old oak trees and already in 1813, the German philosopher Ludwig Klages appealed for the protection of Germany’s ancient trees. Also the German naturalist and early environmentalist Alexander von Humboldt (1761-1849) warned: “Be respectful of the tree. It is a singular wonder.”
Today all ancient trees are protected in Germany as “natural monuments” (Naturdenkmal), an idea that originated with Humboldt. Many writers such as Herman Hesse (1877–1962) have described the primordial force of old trees: “Trees are sanctuaries . . .”
Yes. There are a number of ancient trees, groves–and forests on the east coast.
PROTECT THEM!
Check out this Magnificent Ancient Tree, Robin Hood:
http://www.eyemead.com/majorgal.htm
I live across the street from a forest 🙂 I’m pretty lucky.
those are awesome
Certain trees were believed to be a medium of prophecy and knowledge: large old oaks were the dwelling places of woodland spirits. The ancient “Ivenack Oak” grows in the medieval German forest of Ivenack in Mecklenburg Vorpommern. With a massive trunk over 15 meters, “Ivenack Oak” is the biggest German oak and in volume it has been measured as the biggest oak in Europe.
The oak trees of Ivenack are a remnant of an age-old grazed forest with an open park like character that became a hunting estate in the 18th century. The trees are famous in Germany – not only for their exceptional age and size – but also for the legends and myths which describe their history: “Long ago, there was in Ivenack a Cistercian Nunnery. Seven nuns were said to have broken their vow of faith and as punishment they were transformed into oaks. Not until 1000 years have passed will the first of the nuns be released and then the oak tree will die. A hundred years later, the second nun will be released and this will continue each century until all of the nuns have been released.”
:priest::omg:
amazing, isn’t it? There’s a beech grove surrounding a waterfall right near my home that I believe to be quite magical.
Nuns and trees! I knew there was a connection :priest:
In ancient Rome, oaks often marked land boundaries and were considered markers by those who annually inspected the extent of their property. This practice was originally linked to the Roman god Terminus, who rules borders. A modified version of this practice continued in Christian England called “Beating the Parish Bounds”. Clergymen and church members would visit border marker trees, called “Gospel Oaks,” And recite prayers and blessing beneath the boughs.
To the ancient Celts, the waxing part of the year was ruled by the Oak King. His reign began at Yule and ended at Midsummer when the days once again began to grow shorter. On the day of summer solstice the Oak King was sacrificed, and replaced by the Holly King, who ruled over the waning part of the year, ending at the winter solstice. These vegetation deities each year assured that life would be renewed. Not surprisingly, images of the Green Man, a similar nature god carved in wood and stone in medieval churches, show oak leaves growing out of his ears and mouth. The spirit of the equally “wild” horned god, Herne the Hunter (possibly related to Cern and Cernunnos) is said to inhabit the oak, especially in the groves of England’s Windsor Forest.. The Welsh story “Math, Son of Mathonwy” echoes the sacrificial theme. The hero of this tale, Lleu, after being killed, returns as an eagle and alights on the sacred oak tree where he suffered “nine-score hardships”. The oak teaches wisdom through suffering and resurrection, as did the ash in the Norse tale of Odin. Oak wood is traditionally used in the midsummer fire.
(from my book – I have a couple of more pages just on oak)
One of the largest and most beautiful forests of France is the Forest of Fontainebleau, somewhat to the south-east of Paris. Large parts of the forest consists of old deciduous forest, especialy oak and beech – forest. From the 16th century oaks have been planted here for wood production. Famous are the oak-plantings done under Louis XIV by his minister Colbert around 1680. Parts of them still exist in Fontainebleau and some other french forests like the Forêt de Bellême and the Forêt de Tronçais. The forest of Fontainebleau was celebrated already in the 19th century because of its picturesque rocklandscapes and splendid old forests. Mainy painters came here to be inspired. They achieved the creation of several “artistic reserves” in 1853: this were some very old and beautiful parts of the forest which they wanted to save from the axe. These reserves exist till this day: the policy in some of them has been to leave everything to natural processes. This has lead to interesting developments: the former open forest with dominating old oaks has changed in a much denser beech-dominated forest. Still, this forests have a very varied and natural structure, with ancient trees, dying trees, dead standing and fallen trees, often full of mosses and mushrooms, open spaces and young trees reaching to the light in the gaps in the canopy. Here you see an ancient oak in one of the reserves, “Le gros Fouteau”.
I’ve actually heard of that. Man, there are so many forest areas I have to see :omg:
Evenin’ Seditionists!. Not a bad week.
A little FYI from a heavy Bruce session with some friends on Wednesday night since I am too superstitious for victory laps.
Manfred Mann’s cover is so far the only Bruce Springsteen song to top the American charts. Near misses for Bruce have been “Dancing In The Dark (#2 in 1984) and The Pointer Sisters version of “Fire” (#2 in 1979). (thanks, Edward Pearce – Ashford, Kent, England)
I remember watching a documentary on what they called the last significant fragment of Europe’s primeval forest. Bialiwieza (?) in Poland. There may not be many fragments left, but lots of monumental trees. Canada probably has more ancient forests than anywhere. I read this evening that there is no federal protection for them. Timber industry and the timber worker unions are very powerful there.
the Adirondack Forest preserve in upper NY State is the largest protected federal forest land in the U.S. I think….it was completely cut down just after the Europeans came here, but they learned from their mistakes and let it all grow back…
The Thousand Years Old Oaks Of Ivenack
The oaks of Ivenack present an exceptional feature of cultural and natural history not encountered once more anywhere else in Germany. They are not remnants of primeval forest but evidence of the wide-spread way the land was made use of as “Hudewald” (Huetewald), i.e. as pasturage, throughout the Middle Ages, which have survived in the deer park of Ivenack throughout centuries until present time.
At the end of the first millennium A.D. when these oaks had shot this area was already used by a Slavonic tribe named Wilzen. Forest pasturages had been usual practice. Pigs, cattle, sheep, goats, and horses were driven into sparse forests to eat their fill there. The forests became sparse because of the grazing livestock bit off the young shoots thus allowing groth of only a few beeches and oaks with wide treetops the beechnuts und acorns of which gave additional food for it.
thousand-year old oaks – I can just imagine the energy that suffuses the whole area surrounding one of those trees…how amazing it must be to get anywhere near one
It is interesting that people everywhere organize to protect old trees.
It’s good to know they have champions. It’s kind of hard to resist them, though…you’d have to a part missing from your soul to not even care about such commanding life forms
I will be back later…:knit:
:doh:melina it is happening again!
:parrot::pirate:
whats happening Seanie? Marc the Shark (or Jeffie) coming out?…
:eek::shock:IT^
ah…the witching hour:pent::pent::pent::pent::pent::pent:
no the witching hour is three according to some guy that was on coast to coast am
seanie-Im sending you some super funk…this is what I want to send to cnickthomas who is likely out having fun while I sit here filling out applications for schools for Ben….
well, its a certain witching hour…not THE witching hour….just one of em….
:penguin:superfunk?:slap:
PJ- Mom is sick too…did you get your flu shot? Will and I just got ours and my arm hurts….Will also got Hep A because we are going to Mexico.
I hope you feel better….
check it out….its from when I was a kid….
you can always delete it if its too old fashioned for you doh doh….
I want Nick to use Tell Me Something Good by Chaka Kahn and Rufus for a theme for the seditionists chat….
Hey Melina and Nicki and susan and sean and lurkers.
:fustrate:none of these emos rock!
:evil::slap:i just broke stuff in my truck over malloy playing iron man
oh melina tell will i got resident evil 4!
http://wwwuser.gwdg.de/~uhwg/WaldAktion.html
:omg:
Hello Krista!
I will tell him Sean…I cancelled the transfer on skype because I have to go to sleep…must be up early tomorrow….
Will try tomorrow night….
nite krista
Oh well, I’ve got to work tomorrow, g’night everybody.
:yawn:
dude who cares about forests when we need wood for skateboards!
nite Andy, I guess I’m headed that way too unless I can find something on tv :yawn:
:omg:
“How much time we got?”
:rabbi:
He must be talking to Fred about the threat from China.
I am going to start namimg names at random. Deficient on the definitions.
Steigerwald
Thuringia
:cold:i got a name charles r drew!
http://morningseditionists.com/msblog/wp-images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif❗
Cheesequake, New Jersey
Random emo parade: :neutral::cold::cake::priest::penguin::nana::jerk::cat::pirate::parrot::joe::pup:
Specifically chosen emo short selection: :sdavid::pent:
Yiddishkeit Rules!
:fist:
here’s Marc for good measure: :rabbi:
Oh yes, and this is James Carville fighting with Howard Dean (latest news I heard) :slap:
And here’s something representing the dream I had as I slept: :sheep: (border of being awake and asleep) then :rofl2: with :love:down a strange street that I’ve never seen before, but where Jews :sdavid: used to live, then ended up in a forest (insert trees) and we saw what we were looking for at the end of the trail, but I woke up before I saw just what it was :pent::sdavid::tongue:
:fire: there was no fire engine
I wonder what it is I’m going to find? Oh yes, I did have the pink backpack on, it seems to be ubiquitious now in my dreams :omg:
In Buhle’s view, Kushner is the vanguard figure (whose Angels in America is a brilliant reworking of traditional Jewish ethical concerns) and Ozick the reactionary. Dismissal of his Yiddishkeit yearning is proof of her parochialism; Ozick fails to grasp “the intertwining of Yiddish heritage with American popular culture,” and appreciate the “predilection of Jews to enact creatively the lives of others as well as of themselves.”
(Oi Vey motherf*****!)
:tommygun:
Yiddiskeit yearning? oh my
Get over the past. Stop romanticizing the shtetl and lower eastside yiddishkeit. Israel is the ultimate Muscle Jew conclusion!
:tommygun:
give me a dream of separatist apartheid where everyone is armed, yay! And I can do away with anything within 10 thousand miles of where I live. I feel all dreamy-eyed and romantic
:;:hates self while everyone watches::: :sdavid:
What a dream. Work that out. :pent::sdavid:
:omg:
actually the real dream I had was nicer. I’d probably be sick to my stomach if I had the apartheid dream
If my neighbor suffers, then I suffer. Love thy enemy, too.
:sdavid:
Indeed…. I’m reading that whole nation article you sent a bit from earlier (Yiddishkeit) Really strange ideas that extreme nationalism induces.
Do you subscribe to the nation?
No…not familiar with it. This article is very good, though
“half of those who passed through the communist party were Jews”