Another week winds to an end. Will the Torturer General go down at the end of today’s news cycle, or will he hang on? My bet, he hangs on. They need to have him around to throw under the bus, in case it starts to look like Rove will have to get his pig face over to Congress and testify under oath. Could be an interesting visit from Maron on Sam’s show today, what with him spilling the beans a bit about a possible change in the nine to noon AAR lineup. I wonder if we’ll hear anything more about that today.
Interesting how the Politico (oh-for-two this week – so far – on “scoops”) is able to get a story totally wrong (yesterday being the “John Edwards is ‘suspending’ his campaign” story) and then spread throughout the traditional media. The folks over there were crappy journalists before the got together on this little venture, so there’s no surprise there, but didn’t there used to be a time when the “media” actually did their own investigating, and didn’t report a story until they actually had a story to report? I blame it all on Watergate. Up ’til then, newspapers and teevee news organizations did their own reporting. But after the WaPost had their “Deep Throat” exclusive source, everybody just started reporting that the “Washington Post is reporting….” Now, every time Drudge pulls something out of his ass, it winds up on AP, in every paper, and on every “news” show in about two hours.
Anyhow, happy Friday.
From : Marc Maron
Subject : Future Stuff
Well, Friends-
Here some sad news out of the gate. I will not be returning to Air America
Radio. Today will be the last time I call in on Sam Seder’s show. I will not be
guest hosting any Air America shows in the future. This is all my choice. No
conspiracy here. I’m just done with that company. My relationship with AAR is
officially over. Thank you all for your support over the last couple of years.
I’ve got to let go and move on.
There are some things percolating at HBO. I have no real news about what or when
or if but there is percolation.
Here is something I do know. I will be appearing with Henry Rollins and Janeane
Garofalo at the Grammercy Theater in NYC April 10-15.
http://www.ticketmaster.com/venue/107
AND in Los Angeles at the Silent Movie Theater April 24-29.
http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/09003E3DE951D6DA?artistid=736000&majorcatid=10001&minorcatid=60
Hope to see some of you there.
Maron
Alpha :growl: a.i.v.
Kevin, I wanted you Alpha 5 days in a row — but I thought perhaps this should be seen right from “the gate” 🙁
Bloody Hell
CAN’T STOP * RED :hot: Chili Peppers
Hey Druid. Thanks for the post. I was getting a little concerned about being first so many days in a row anyway.
I just signed papers last night to move in June. Not far, just a new place in the same complex. Good news is that I will be able to get cable, so I will be able to watch Marc when his HBO stuff starts up. HBO sounds like a better gig anyway… at least a more secure environment.
His news is a bit of a bummer, but not that much of a surprise, considering how much AAR has fucked him over. Can’t blame him for wanting to move on.
:fire:
Looks like Maron was number one with the comments this morning.
What, was he up all night brooding about how AAR has screwed him?
My e mail says it was sent at 5:00 AM EST. Weird. :sammy:
Providing a kaleidoscopic upgrade to creatures that are largely colorblind, scientists have endowed mice with a human gene that allows the rodents to see the world in full Technicolor splendor.
The advance, which relied on imaginative tests to confirm that the mice can perceive all the hues that people see, helps resolve a long-standing debate about how color vision arose in human ancestors tens of millions of years ago. That seminal event brought a host of practical advantages, such as the ability to spot ripe fruit, and unveiled new aesthetic pleasures — autumn foliage, magenta sunsets and the blush of a potential mate, among them.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/22/AR2007032201841.html?referrer=email
Blue Dogs Win, America and the Troops Lose
It’s all over, save the congratulations and backslapping for a job well done. With the wrangling over language for the supplemental spending bill hammered out, with the add-ons for unrelated, yet vital projects tacked on to gain more votes, and of course, with appeasing concessions dutifully slapped on, Congress will soon present their own new way forward for Iraq. But through all of their compromises and political gamesmanship, they forgot one thing; the troops.
that is just too sad…I hope this doesnt mean that theyre screwing sammy….
Jim Wallis: Marching Orders
Four years ago today, my son Jack was born – two days before the war began. I always know how long this awful war has gone on.
I wouldn’t be surprised, at this point Sam has the best show so of course they have to mess with it.
Well, that really is a disappointment. And now this:
Far be it for me to suggest that this is all a big scam to start a shooting war.
what is sammy’s IM address?
Is her on AOL IM?
If Marc is severing his ties with AAR because he didn’t want to take a show at the cost of screwing up his friend Sam, I don’t blame him. But if AAR f*cked up negotiations with Marc AND they sh*tcan Sam’s show, I don’t know what I might do. :knit2: 🙁 :fu:
He uses a listserv that sends out the e-mails in bunches, rather than all 3,000+ at once, so it takes a few hours for them all to get out (mine was at 6:04 AM, for instance).
I believe he uses samsedershow@gmail.com. It certainly sounds as if something they did really disgusted him. He’s always left the door open in the past, and this is pretty definitive. Really a shame. I wonder what he’s intending to say on his last call in to Sam today.
I also wonder if there’s any chance at all of him being on the radio ever again.
I think that we may need to write to AAR…Jill, who do you think should hear from us?
I dont blame Maron at all…I told him a long time ago that he was right in being very, very careful.
AAR isnt the only game in town and maybe he’ll get a better offer or something that works better for his schedule.
But the resignation tone in the note says alot to me….
I think they fucked up.
And if that means that Sammy is in danger…well…that may be that for me…
Oh PJ…he can get a show somewhere…there is gonna be tons of opportunity as the country turns more and more blue
even just in LA.
he got the experience he needs….
not only that, he is getting more and more famous. Why would he deal with this shit at all?
but Sammy is instant messaging on the sammy cam and people know his IM for the breaks…might have to go to the blog and see….
Well, it sounds to me (reading between the lines and all that), that they tried to get him to screw over Sam behind Sam’s back, and he decided he doesn’t want anything to do with them. Can’t imagine what else would disgust him so badly that he’d sever all ties. I mean, not coming to terms is one thing, but this has to be more than that, I’d think. Not that I actually know, of course.
I think letters should go to Mark Green, Scott Elberg, and David Bernstein. Green is the head honcho, Elberg because he’s the COO and Maron respects him, and Bernstein because we’d better let him know sooner rather than later just where AAR’s bread is buttered, and if he loses the listening audience, he might as well go home.
Good Morning. :joe: Can’t really blame Marc for giving up on AAR. It seems unlikely the Jones Network would pick him up, too similar to Stephanie Miller. NovaM doesn’t have any money. But there’s still satellite.
I added samsedershow@gmail.com to my buddy list, but either he isn’t using it, or he needs to approve me first.
Well, I expect that alot of these local outlets will be picking up more and more liberal talkers….and in the olden days one would actually start that way and go into syndication and then national…..
This AAR startup thing has been a pretty misleading exercise in trying to make a huge statement all at once…when the real story is that local radio in NYC used to have a whole bunch of different views and some of it went national and some didnt….and they slowly chiseled it away until there was none.
But there is no reason that we cant expect to get more and more of this sorta liberal talk interspersed in all talk radio…
Isnt that the way its supposed to be?
And isnt America getting tired of the CLOWNS representing Right talk
so you can chat through that? …heh…gmail has chat too?
As The Red Queen said, “Off with their heads.”
I think he has nobly severed now All relationship with AAR. Sure maybe someday some “miracle” might get him to come back, but I think, regarding him, “He Walks Well.”
:fist: a.i.v. Universally Speaking [repeating…] Red :hot: Chili Peppers
Yeah, gmail has chat. But I use GAIM, which is open source and allows me to run AIM, Jabber (which is what gmail is compliant with), Yahoo, MSN, ICQ, and several others all in one place.
But Malloy last night”alluded” to someone SPECIAL is coming to NovaM and we ex-AAR would be VERY HAPPY.
a.i.v.
Gmail has chat but it’s pretty basic.
was he just saying that he is negotiating right now with AAR? Then they went out to talk about it?
I saw a blog post on one of those right wing blogs last nite and i dismissed it…but it was something to the effect of that Sam was gonna leave immediately…..it was some really bad rightwing blog, so….
but I wonder what the fuck is going on….
Basic, but it’s also encrypted. GAIM works quite well with my 4 AIM accounts, 2 Google, ICQ , Yahoo, and MSN.
I still can’t get AAR through itunes, WTF!
Druid@25: Well, there are only a few options there, right? I mean, who would Malloy be talking about?
Marc?
Sam (if he’s leaving AAR)?
Lizz Winstead? (Who cares?)
Chuck D? (Naah)
Marty Kaplan?
I mean, who else has left?
Nope, I don’t think AAR has any ShoutCast (or IceCast) stream going anymore. WWRL WM stream is pretty solid, though.
Im getting the premium shows thorugh itunes
but I never listen live with that….its probably a MAC issue :rofl2:
My bet would be on Marty Kaplan. I liked his show. Not enough to get me too terrible “excited,” but the evening shows on AAR are even less exciting (to me).
Ew. iTunes is icky.
Kristapea, Regarding iTunes, Me either. But I can now get AAR, but why bother? 🙄
a.i.v.
PJ@33: Do you really think that ex-AAR-ers would be VERY HAPPY about Marty Kaplan? I mean, a lot of people liked his show, but I don’t see Malloy making a big deal out of it if it were Kaplan.
I think NovaM needs to make a big deal out of anything it possibly can. But, yeah, if it’s Kaplan, I think people will be less “very happy” and more :yawn:
Sam would be good, but that only means it’s because AAR is screwing him over, and he’s gone. Maron would make us very, very, happy, but I don’t see them as being able to give him a big enough budget to do the show he wants to do (plus, he already said they didn’t look like a good fit).
One day, it [iTunes] just Poof, “appeared”. Then not a MP3 but now 😮 an iPod showed up on a past recent birthday . So I guess I am Bi. :hubba: :rofl2:
a.i.v.
Well, iTunes is just a front end to selling you crap from the iTunes store, though it will also allow you to subscribe to podcasts and play mp3’s. So, if you want to buy crap from the iTunes store, then that’s great. But if you just want to subscribe to podcasts and play mp3’s and stuff, then there are better (and open source) apps. Or not. If iTunes does everything you want it to, then it’s the best thing for you to use.
😮 sam is firing everybody……
brilliantatbreakfast , Re 30 The Computer Says No 🙄 😉
a.i.v.
I dont use the itunes store….
I dont like how they keep their tentacle on everything they sell.
PJ, what platform/music organizer ar eyou using again? I may switch over….but will it work with an ipod?…which I am actually considering switching to a creative zen because it does so much more and is easier to deal with…but it wont work with itunes….
what is Malloy saying? I never listen to him…he is just too angry for me
Well, now I am extremely depressed.
Marc belongs on radio and every time I hear him on AAR,
it sounds to me like he thinks so too.
I admire him for trying to do the right thing by Sam and by himself
(proceeding with caution re AAR and hopefully figuring the needs of his marriage into the equation), but it seems awfully early to give up on the AAR 2.0. The new team’s intentions and integrity remain to be seen. The ink is hardly dry on the ownership papers. I could
imagine Marc wanting to stay on the sidelines for a while until he
could feel more confident in the management and direction of AAR.
But it sounds like he’s done with them for good.
I worry that Sam is upset with him, and/or AAR is upset with him,
that he really stepped in it in Atlanta last week (maybe hanging around with Malloy too much?). But wasn’t it an MS fan who
“leaked” a conversation with Maron to a radio web site that started
the “Sam is getting fired” rumor?
At the risk of sounding extremely selfish, sometimes Maron is
all I have to look forward to in my week. I was hoping he’d be around on radio for the fall of the house of Bush.
I don’t use any “organizer” to organize my music. Don’t have a need for it, really. I keep everything on my computer and also on my iRiver (down to four gigs left, there, though), and then I move stuff onto SD cards to play on my Lyra or on my Nuvi in the car. I just rely on tags, folders, etc. For podcasts, I use Juice.
but do you update or sybnc ever…or you add by hand?
Looks like Liberal Talk Radio has the story already:
http://ltradio.blogspot.com/2007/03/marons-through-with-air-america.html#links
I was encouraged when AAR 2.0 fixed the streaming problem (hoping
website updates would be next and schedule changes would follow only after lots of deliberation).
I can’t help but think Sammy’s getting screwed. That would push
Marc over the edge.
Let’s wait with letters till we hear what happens on Sam’s show today.
Collette…something must be up…and/or Maron is just hip to the truth here…he doesnt need AAR anymore…and if the Greens didnt hit him with an excellent offer right away then its their loss. I write them as Im sure everyone has, and I said to get on the stick with this situation.
How much is one person supposed to take.
I dont blamehim for moving on.
He was tortured by those fucks…and it sounds to me that we might not see much different from 2.0.
I dont think that anyone is gonna be mad about anythign that maron said on stage or to a fan….
Its not really that big of a deal…
But stringing along just sucks for Maron…and he should get a real show on another network.
If he is on HBO every sunday and
gets even a local show….I cant imagine that hes not gonna keep rising.
I guess that MS and that crew are just gonna go down in history as a fantastic ensemble that is no more…and we have to look forward to whatever is coming….
But lets write AAR anyway.
even more pictures going up sunrise in manitoba!
Im trying to get direct email addresses…
Seanie…your pics are great!
I love this intro music!!
I’m watching the Sam Cam…feels like a death watch.
:yippee: three more up! thanks melina!
😯 :paranoid: sam fired another person
:nixon: i have times select for free!
:fist: roommates in college rock!
Send me e-mail addresses, and I’ll put up an e-mail form to send e-mail. Of course, I’ll also need some default text (that can be changed by the user), and default subject line(s).
Good morning, my sad seditionist sibren. (easier to type than brethren and sistren…)
I’ll be weeping on my way home tonight since weeping at work is reserved for when the boss pisses you off. :knit2:
I’m glad Marc made a positive decision. He’s put up with crap from AAR long enough. It’s time he got into doing something he can count on.
And, in other news, I’ve decided the all-news channels need to re-examine priorities. This morning they interrupted MSNBC to report on a big traffic accident in Chicago. Yeah, it’s big news item for Chicago. Maybe for all of Cook County. But Portland? Why did we need to hear all about how many injured and how badly?
Marc next…..
i wonder who is gonna be Sam’s next producer
Last Marc, coming up. Could be the last time we hear from him for a while (except if you live where you can catch a show).
The only email address is the one, so far…but I wrote asking them if certain people got their mail through that addy or if they had their own.
There must be a directory somewhere that any hacker could find….PJ…
Well, the gaggle was apparently picked up…they dont want to let grass grow under that considering the climate out there in political land….so we will hear from him soon.
Maybe sedition radio should start running whole shows with the extra comedy bits interspersed…just to have a calling card platform to write to different stations …to show the interviewing style and all…
We’ll see. Hopefully they’ll pick it up, and hopefully he’ll be a permanent part of it. You never know what will happen with these things. By the way, happy Knut Day.
Im going April 13th so far…and maybe will try to catch another night that week…but its probably the same show and I wonder if Janeane is still doing her heathcliff thing or if she has moved on.
SHUTUP!!!!!
Here we go!! Maron talked to Mike Malloy!!
:pup: awww how cute did you see sams face perk up when he got marc on the phone
:fist: MALLOY!!!!! if only the load out of the show was earlier i keep missing malloy!
So does this mean that Maron has a deal with NovaM??
Well, I thought he was gonna come right out and say he’ll be on NovaM.
That would be cool if I was wrong about comment #19. :pup:
:cat: so if he will be on nova m then sirius can ditch steffie and put on the funny!
:yuck: steffie is not funny and shes creepy everybody is “her husband”
:hubba: now a tv show for her might work!
God, Stephanie Miller is just so godawful bad….I cant imagine how she ever got anywhere….I tried and tried to listen to her and I just cant….
One of my personal criteria for judging the health of AAR 2.0 was to see if there would be any rapprochement with the Nova M crowd. It would be smart for AAR to work together with other liberal media
and splits on the left are ugly and often counterproductive. I was
just hoping they could be cordial and work together (perhaps expanding liberal radio’s reach) where it made sense.
Doesn’t look like that’s happening!!!
:fustrate: :doh: :40: :spank: :jason: :tommygun:
she makes me want to do those things……
Aw, that sucks.
If we have one AAR e-mail addy we could probably figure out any other ones. I just don’t remember having one but I am sure some of you have.
Alright, I found on jsinton@airamericaradio.com so it is probably first initial last name at airamericaradio.com
Sure sounds like Seder is moving on.
Doesn’t seem like Sam has much longer to go with these people, either. They’ll probably have the Mark Green Show for three hours. “Scotty, can you buy me a radio network? Scotty, can you give me a radio show?”
Well, it was the first initial and last name of the user. For example, John Smith would be jsmith. Then it changed from @airamericaradio.com to @airamerica.com, after they bought the domain name.
Sam is screwed. All his talk about “restraint” and refusal to
say where Joel is going….
You can just feel it. The Sam Seder show is future toast.
Yeah, I was thinking it probably doesn’t even matter if we have the e-mail addresses. Sammy killed the mike pretty rapidly on the cam. Looks like he is doing his promo now.
All of the Maron bad news and rat poison in cat food too!
http://www.rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fabcnews.go.com%
What’s next???
http://morningseditionists.com/msblog/wp-images/smilies/sadsmilie.gif
🙁 2FUS%2Fstory%3Fid%3D2975912%26page%3D1
Yeah, I’ll miss Sam’s show. I can’t figure out what I’ll listen to while I’m sitting at the computer in the morning.
well Colette, Nova M is pretty tiny and just one outlet…
they also have been sorta disorganized in their beginnings…so, I dont know how seriously they have been taken. Its not like Nova M is what AAR was when it began…
we need to see alot more outlets like Nova M all over the place…
We need to see these shows all interspersed on different stations so the left and right arent so divided….
AAR would not be able to boradcast as it does under the fairness docterine…thats hwat we have to get back to.
AAR has just been a signpost showing that we need a voice and that balance is what works in this country.
In that way, its been a good thing.
The management…well, too bad we dont have a Rupert Murdoch who is willing ot just pour money into the message without some ego tinkering thing happening….
AAR is soon gonna be NPR lite…all over again….
damn…very, very sad.
But I have a feeling that something is up with sam….
Whoever ends up at Nova M probably has a better chance getting on the local SF station than a new AAR show. Sam isn’t on here right now so maybe it could be a good thing.
apparently this animal food thing is in Iams …? I thought it was only walmart brands.
Im using only organic human quality stuff so I hope that no crazies are gonna attack the healthfood animal market.
Sounds like some copycat (heh) deal on the tainted walmart foods….
Rat poison, in wheat imported from China.
It’s not just Iams, it’s in food manufactured by Menu Foods in Canada, which includes something like 71 brands of food, both “name brand” and store brands.
fuck….well, I guess the fda and homeland security will get right on that…not….
I Like Stephani Miller. It took me to have in common with her the following: California, School, Sign to make me LOOK at her … then I heard “The Computer Says No.”
(Yes, that works for me :rofl2: )
The “hubby” banter was funny in the beginning. Now, I pray someone tells her — It’s Not Funny — Next “skit” NOW
:rofl2: I :love: Marc but also Randi and Stephanie.
They went thru what most didn’t. One has different ways one is meant To Walk. I would love a GOOD Sharp Molly Ivans type. But no one has stepped forward, YET ❗
But these women walked with the man so compare to who and what is being “air’d”, like sean or rush (the :yuck: ones).
MARC WAS RARE ❗
A.I.R. my computer keeps freezing & taking FOREVER 🙄
And they fucking knew about it a month ago, and all they did was kill another 7 or so animals in “testing” w/o doing anything.
Oh, brother….rat poison in the pet food. Melina knows what I’ve been through with rat poison and the Infamous Squirrel Caper in my house. And I still have two bags of Contrac in my basement ceiling because of a quack exterminator who didn’t know s**t from Shinola. :fu: 😡 So my cats aren’t allowed in the basement family room without supervision till I can take down that part of the ceiling and replace it.
I wonder, though…aren’t we the world’s biggest exporter of what? So why the eff are we iimporting it from China?
Well, Stephanie went to USC, but grew up in Lockport, NY. She also worked over at WCMF in Rochester.
Menu Foods is in Canada. But I was wondering the same thing, as to why they would import wheat from China. I suppose it’s a lot cheaper, since they let them put fucking rat poison in their wheat over there.
BTW, in case you’re not sure, the cat food recall info is here, and the dog food info is here.
pjsauter, Women’s Correctional ? Facilities ❓ 😉
a.i.v.
Actually, CMF used to be a really good radio station. When I lived in Oswego, I was able to pick it up, since the signal could just travel down Lake Ontario. Otherwise, the only time I heard it was on my way to or from Buffalo (back then, it was good, because WOUR from Utica was a good station at 96.9, and it just kind of morphed into WCMF at 96.5 when you got far enough down the Thruway – that’s when radios had dials and knobs you could tweak to get the stations to come in).
hmmm
ah ha! havent got to do this in a while! oh if anybody is wondering when i was younger i used to think they said one o one……
One and one, we`re having some fun,
In the bedroom, all day, and all of the night.
Two and two, I took of my shoes,
In the bedroom, all day, and all of the night.
Three and three, she undressed me,
In the bedroom, all day, and all of the night.
Four and four, we f**ked on the floor,
In the bedroom, all day, and all of the night……
I thought Canada was a big wheat producer.
Albert Baez, 94, physicist, father of two folksingers
This was a very interesting man.
:yippee: im getting a new copy of jerusalem syndrome……
:40: yeah and they are gonna be even more productive when global warming makes it easier to farm in the great white north……
:rofl2: WCMF … the m was for Medical… :rofl2:
:rofl2: We have a CMF … California Medical Facilities, :rofl2:
Manson is held. :rofl2:
*Radio Stations in New York with Stephanie :rofl2: … She can offer a certain balance. :rofl2:
a.i.v. But Then there is my fav…”The Computer says NOOOooo.”
Yeah, Canada is a big wheat producer. Not as much as the US (or China or India), but in the top ten, I think. Of course, they always ship this shit around to get higher prices. And I’m sure that Chinese wheat is cheaper.
Oh, that’s interesting, since I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night.
Oh, that’s interesting, since I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night.
Was he alive as you or me?
Albert Baez, 94, physicist, father of two folksingers
This was a very interesting man.
Comment by wvmc3d — March 23, 2007 @ 12:33 pm
:bow: :knit: :gate: :bow: Great Journeys
hey, doesn anyone know if Sinton is still with AAR?
Has anyone commented on the AAR “store” no longer featuring specific personalities except Al? The Cafepress store is still up and features three shows/personalities:
Al Franken
Chuck D
Morning Sedition
Does anyone else sense a pattern here?
Speaking of Jon Sinton, I never saw this before.
OK I had to leave for work so I didn’t hear the rest of the show. So it sounds like Sam is getting axed?
Hope Maron pops up somewhere soon, but don’t blame him for pulling el plug-o. BUT SAM? Is that true? That’s my favorite AAR show, so of course they’ll pull it.
What is this world coming to?
(Hi! btw!)
HeY Kat! Yeah at this point Sam is my fav show too.
hey Kat….yeah…just so sad….
Hi Andy!
So did Sam and Marc hint around that Sam was going?
:banana: riley has become my favorite aar show well ring of fire is my favorite but as far as five days a week shows…… ok so its ring riley seder hartmann rhodes…… of course malloy trumps all of them if only he was still on aar
Man, I can only take a few minutes of hartmann, does he ever stop talking about himself?
andy aka Aquaman :He has that info in his background … it is like you, I will NEVER wear that deep sea gear (How’s your underwater home? :rofl2: ) or Experience that DEEP Sea …, like PJ creating a world where we ex-MSists can “voice” — he’s Brilliant, Strange Beautiful DM (LBH-kinda), Sean his brilliance and driving and seeing the world — which again I can’t do –GAMING All The Way : wink: and these are just a few of the BRILLLIANT ONES, HERE!
I am impressed with VALERIE. :bow: and do not have her background, but kinda dig mine also — BUT I WAS NOT IN HER SPACE — THAT STARTED THE BALL ROLLING TO SAVE THIS NATION… But ALL HAVE A PAST …. some can speak about their past “on-Air”. Or I guess one could be Jim M.
or I being too positive for this time and space?
:pirate: A.I.V. Universally Speaking Red :hot: C.P.
[…and a wee bit of Evanescence {giggle}]
a.i.v.
Recap for Andy and others,
Obvious warmth and love between Maron and Seder during their conversations. Especially on the Sammy cam version of the show,
lots of asides, sighs, refusals to say more and general moping suggestive that something unpleasant is on its way. Specifically,
Seder announced it was Joel’s last day but declined to say why,
Seder refused to answer a blogger question on break about the future of the show saying that they were all using “a lot of restraint”
in what they said today. Maron and Seder talked about “getting the
old gang together” (suggesting it would be somewhere else), the
beginning of AAR, and Maron’s visit with Malloy last week in Atlanta. At some point, they decided they shouldn’t say anything more about AAR.
Maron said that his decision not to deal with AAR anymore was due to their refusal to pay off their past debt to him in any future deal. But Sam pointed out that the new owners are not liable for the old owner’s debts, and I doubt the money was the big issue for Maron.
To my mind, the only event that could have produced the letter Maron wrote this morning is Sam getting canned. In that case,
Maron would not only be angry about AAR’s treatment of his friend,
but he would also flash back to his own situation, the last two
times AAR canned him. That would be enough for him to stop negotiations for good.
Is this a pretty good recap? (Sam does owe me for lost work time
today.)
I just write a bit of my take on this on RIPCoco….
Gotta run…
But the money says something.
These greens have billions of dollars…and maron is owed what? 50 grand?
Even if they didnt want to set a bad precedent for repaying everyone, they could give him a signing bonus or something…there are ways aroudn this crap…and they obviously didnt take em.
Why should marc work there? he is really doing well and he seems happy!
And I have a sinking suspicion that Sammy is about to get f*cked…Just a feeling…no hard evidence.
I think Marc is being a little naive about the money owed to him. That is not the Green’s debt and not their responsibility to make good.
wvmc3d, I said something similar on his site when he left MS. I still think that: “… take a few steps back TO BE KING!”.
But I do so :love: the Red Queen, and he might be at that state.
I also understand what Melina is saying, since in truth THEY OWE HIM!!!
…and 50grand — is alot… it sounds that they had Promised him…and now being :jerk: jerks and One Does Not Lie To A Libra :no:
a.i.v.
SEDER: “Maybe I’ll just stop doing the show altogether since you won’t be on anymore.”
MARON: “Well, that’s kind of loaded Sam…”
and later
MARON: “I’m glad you’re going to be there … FOR A WHILE…”
Murtha gets a standing ovation and almost cries, discussing the war appropriations bill.
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Murtha_hold_back_tears_during_Iraq_0323.html
Thanks Colette, I caught the beginning and it sounded bad. I heard the “loaded” statement and thought here we go again.
The NY papers were full of the news that Giuliani’s 3rd wife, Judith Nathans, had been married twice, not once as has been reported, before she married Rudy.
The Daily News headline line was: I did, I did, I do.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/23/us/politics/23wife.html?_r=1&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin
Excellent link Sue. Geez I got a little choked up.
I don’t think it was the money for Marc, but I think the principle of not getting what you were promised, and the failure of the new ownership to agree to throw in the $43 grand they owe him to any possible deal must have been part of it. Then, whatever is about to go down with Sam must have helped him to see that it was just going to be business as usual, and he was no longer gonna play the abused wife who keeps returning to her abuser.
We’ll see what happens with NovaM. Maybe when Maron hung out with Malloy, he told him what was gonna goon with Sam, and Sam has a standing offer to join NovaM when AAR pulls the plug. I dunno.
I updated the AAR mp3 link on the right (yes, it should work for iTunes), to an alternate source. It’s http://aarlive.voxcdn.com/live.m3u
A tiny bird so rare and unusual that its scientific name means “strange owl” has been spotted for the first time in the wild, scientists announced yesterday.
Conservationists working in Peru got their first natural glimpse of the long-whiskered owlet last month while working in a private mountain reserve.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/03/070323-owl-picture.html
OK, I don’t know a lot about bankruptcy but it is entirely possible that the new owners just can’t pay him the owed money while many others still get stiffed. That is what bankruptcy is. Whatever any of the creditors get is decided by the court and is proportionate, pennies or nickels or dimes on the dollar without preferential treatment unless you were secured. There is re-organization and debt is forgiven save the percentage that is paid out in the end. The new owners are chosen by the court to make the best of a bad situation. There was always the option to just liquidate which I think we all would agree would have been much worse. This is what happened in the Tower Records bankruptcy and now we are left with nothing.
It may not be fair but is just the way it is. Maron knows this and if I dare say so, was a bit disingenuous with that statement this morning. He should not be expecting the new ownership to make whole the transgressions of the previous.
If anyone knows bankruptcy any better, please feel free to correct me.
Sue you should have put a warning for 134. I almost fainted from the cuteness.
They could easily add any amount to a new agreement, if they wanted to. The money was actually owed to him by Piquant LLC. Whatever the Green Brothers want to pay him or anybody else is up to them. I just think it was all a part of the decision, and I’m guessing they couldn’t really say more at this point in time. Not if Sam wants to get whatever money is coming to him, anyway.
Doesn’t much matter anyway. He’s done with them, and I don’t blame him. I’ll probably be done with them soon, too. This could definitely be ushering in the end of an era (again).
Huffington Post says The Onion is launching a video news service
called the Onion News Network (ONN).
Maybe that will help those of us starved for the funny a little bit.
Andy, I did not anticipate fainting as the usual reaction around here is to spit out one’s coffee and screw up the computer.
Sorry. I’ll try to warn iin the future.
Yeah, of course they could add it to an offer but he seems to want to hold them accountable for the sins of their predecessors, at least in public. For him to say that the debt is part of the reason he is done just seems like posturing and I am not used to that from him. As a creditor, he should be reasonably informed as to what is going on with the disposal of the bankruptcy.
I just hope the truth comes out soon. It is possible that the new regime was jerking Marc and Sam around. I think that the AAR horse is out of the barn and now we will see what if anything can replace it.
On another topic, did anyone see Richard Engel’s War Diary this week? Any thoughts? Should I try to track it down to view?
He didn’t sound posturing to me, just plain pissed to get screwed. And I’m sure hanging with Malloy didn’t exactly calm him down (Malloy got left holding almost $115,000)
Sounded like they made Marc an offer, only to have it be for Sam’s show (or time, anyway). That must have let him know that the new boss was same as the old boss. Other people would have jumped on that (I don’t recall other people having a problem taking over the MS time slot, for instance).
Posturing was probably the wrong word so I should just let it go.
Yeah, I wasn’t really arguing. Just feel kinda bummed about the whole thing (again). I was kind of shocked to find that e-mail this morning. It wasn’t so much that I was expecting him to be back on aar, just kind of the finality of it. Especially after he’s refrained from burning any bridges up until now. And if Sam goes, there really isn’t much left to listen to. It was all so full of promise, back when they started.
Hi.
How’s it going?
Maron not on AAR. 🙁 But not really. Things’ll be fresh and good somewhere else… be it on HBO or another radio thing.
Funny that Harrison from KTLK got canned and now is doing an hour long podcast (from his garage?) in between radio gigs.
The BlatherWatch site’s story sounds pretty accurate. Something that seems like it would happen.
Oh… and I left a comment over at LTR under the article about Maron’s e-mail.
I got a little snarky.
SOMEONE PAY ATTENTION TO ME!!!!
:fu:
how about now? :boobs:
Yeah, there were a couple of A-holes commenting over there.
Hey, but who needs mountains of porn when you have the Internet?
I thought the internets were basically mountains of porn.
Hey Kristin! Is there going to be a Grand National Championship soon?
More like windows of porn. Or, windows overlooking mountains of porn.
Outstanding post Kristin, maybe you could write a scathing letter to my ex.
Windows overlooking the doorways leading to the stairsteps climbing the mountains of porn.
Get the syllables down right, and I think you’ve got yourself a Haiku there.
Windows overlook
The doorways to the stairsteps
Climbing porn mountains
Except there needs to be something in there about “slippery when wet.”
BTW, there’s a woot off going on. If you don’t want to keep reloading the woot page, I put one here.
wvmc3d, horse is out of the barn :smack: :rofl2: 😉
a.i.v.
Slippery when wet.
Sliding “Stairway; heaven’s slut.”
Of PPPorn, mountains…Climb.
Climb mountains of porn
Extra butter flavoring
Slippery when wet
pjsauter, well we did it :rofl2: , who’s next :rofl2: ? {giggle}
a.i.c.
Slippery When Wet.
Sliding “Stairway to Heaven”.
Of PPPorn: MMMountains …CLIMB ❗
just a’try’n diff ways
:yuck: so i come out of the place where the concert is and theres a guy about half way down my trailer playing guitar with his case open i get in my truck roll down my window and he comes and stands right next to my window playing……
PJ, I think I hit all your previous criteria. 😉
Look Through The Window.
The“Stairway…â€, Climbing Porn Mounts.
Slippery When Wet.
I just seem to miss everyone … now i have to get the fire to burn :smack: :tommygun: but a bit later…for now awww finish tea :joe: 🙄 a.i.v. Universally Speaking … Red :hot: Chili Peppers
and BTW album…:-)
Add by hand? Well, if I buy a CD or something, I rip it to mp3, and then generally add it to the iRiver, too.
:fu: hi druid!!!!!
:rofl2: im mean……
I have to defend Stephie too. She’s been on NovaM here for a few weeks and it’s damn good to laugh in the morning again. It does get to be a bit much sometimes and I like Marc better because he was more balanced with the Funny, the Serious, the Sad and the Sweet. I also identify with her love of dogs and childlessness. And Jim the voice diety is a handsome man! Stephie keeps taking MY future husbands and she’s probably had plastic surgery so I’m going to take her sidekick. :nana:
:fist: theres a strip club across the street
Sean, re 170 for this :spank: :penguin: ….. Mwah HaHa
not the strippers 😉
a.i.v.
pjsauter, re 169 ……1-09 you’re “garbled”? :rofl2: :rofl2:
LBH = Teasing ….. please DO NOT repeat 😉 ….. :rofl2:
:yippee: a.i.v.
Kristapea, re 172 :pup: :nod: 😉
a.i.v.
I got my new iPods for my very used and only one pod 😮 … “buds” are soooo cool 8) ………….. :dancers:
a.i.v.
I haven’t had a chance to read all of this yet but, it looks interesting. :nod:
THX :yippee: it looks REAL Cool 8) :omg: 8)
{I have new iPods in :dancers: Ahhhhhh … climb onto your sea horse…. :dancers: … BTW 1 ….. Red. :hot: C.P.} Huh, want did you say huh …. :rofl2:
a.i.v. better get wood while still the almost dark/lighter side of Sunset.
Good summary Collete.
Too bad that Joel got canned. That Minnesota kid’s got talent and he’s going places.
Things are going to change. I got a letter saying that my XM subscription will merge with Sirius. Which means even more Ed Schultz at the expense of creative funny folk. David Byrne has a blog up saying that first record stores are going to disappear and then CD’s. A no-brainer if you think about it.
If Seder goes to NovaM, as Malloy was extremely excited about somebody yesterday, I am OK. The medium is so volatile right now that who hires who is not so important, as long as they have a voice and can maintain a living.
I agree Web. I think that these guys will surface fine…If Sam is let go I expect he will seamlessly move somewhere else…With Maron they sorta fucked him because they strung him along so long…and now hes back on the road and doing so well. I hope that not too much time elapses before he gets back in the saddle doing interviews…tho he does seem to have an incredible talent at picking up however long later , as if he hadnt been away!
I think that 50 grand is not really alot of money…it may be in passing for maron or you or me…but in the scheme of things, its the meaning of that sum of money being withheld that is more important…especially when you are dealing with incredibly well funded guys.
There is no reason that these people couldnt have offered MARC the evening slot and given him a big signing bonus on top of that. We’re not talking about millions of dollars here…and the intent is all relative…the feeling behind it goes on forever.
There is something very shabby about looking at an employee who has been screwed so many times and feeling like you wont go that extra mile….Like, isnt that just about enough to power up the private plane?….
Its all relative….
I dont blame Marc one bit…but I miss him …and not having the hope is just sad.
Hey, did anyone see this? A friend just sent it to me…its pretty incredible.
O’Lielly and Donahue….I dont knwo exactly when its from…and I cant believe I missed it…But then, I dont follow Billy….
This is an example of what a clown Mr O’Lielly is….
Melina , THX :rofl2: O’Lielly vs Donahue = Donahue WINS :fist:
:yippee: :pirate: :rofl2: :yippee: :pirate: :rofl2: :yippee: :pirate: :rofl2:
:fist: A.I.V. The Velvet Glove Red :hot: C.P. :dancers:
did anyone hear Mike speak of “…You’re A Better Man Than I, Gunga Din” 😉
Sue P, re 134 Awwwww
This Link does not work … go to Sue P’s original.
http://news.nation…-owl-picture.html
a.i.v. Tea :joe: Califonication Red :hot: C.P.
Going Under … Evanescence
I am staying because I want to hear Marc again …. for the last time on Sam’s.
a.i.v. Bring Me To Life by Evanescence
All the Tower Records here have all closed and the “cooler” record stores are all downsizing their space or closing all together. I think this is really bad. Record stores were my cultural center for so many years! Besides, I still buy cd’s mostly. :smack: :tinfoil:
But now they have in-stores :doh: 🙁 never been … But I love Cafes : – D … but I like David Byrne 8)
a.i.v. My Immortal … Evanescence
:tinfoil: :fu: US Govt letting EVEN MORE DIE ❗ :fu: Menu Foods via :fu: “bad” part of China .. who loves killing helpless animals. :fustrate: :growl: :fist:
a.i.v. …Whisper … Evanescence
Documents show Gonzales OK’d attorney firings
POSTED: 10:39 p.m. EDT, March 23, 2007
Story Highlights
• Documents showing Gonzales approved firings contradict his earlier claims
• Decision came in a November meeting to discuss five-step plan
• Plan was crafted by Gonzales aide who has agreed to testify
before Congress
WASHINGTON (AP) — Attorney General Alberto Gonzales approved plans to fire several U.S. attorneys in a November meeting, according to documents released Friday that contradict earlier claims that he was not closely involved in the dismissals.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/03/23/us.attorneys.gonzales.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories
Can You Say, GoodBye? OMEGA A.I.V. …Taking Over Me … Evanescence
Bring Me To Life … Evanescence
Roxie, Are You A Better Man {woman} Than I, Gunga Din?
A.I.V. Imaginary by Evanescence .Tell S. & N. “tunes” :banana:
Everybody’s Fool :banana: … Evanescence
OMEGA Marc Maron from AAR until “they” GET IT. Flame On until you “Phoenix” somewhere else on Radio soon.
A.I.V. Haunted by Evanescence