I’m sorry, I just can’t deal with Obama being preznit. I want to like him, really I do. I’d love to see this country elect a black guy whose middle name is Hussein to the presidency. Not only would it maybe – just maybe – give the families of all the Iraqis we’ve butchered the hope that the Bush years were just a horrible abomination and we want to do the right thing, but it would really piss off all the racists and Kristofascists out there. It might even make Michael Wiener Savage’s head explode, and how could that be a bad thing?
I’d love to love Hillary, for that matter, but I just can’t. It would be great for this country to have a woman president – and way past due time. We should’ve elected a woman a long time ago (but then, women weren’t even able to vote not that long ago, let alone run for office).
And I’d also very much be happy to be totally opposed to the good looking (hell, I’m a straight guy, and even I can tell he’s good-lookin’), rich, white lawyer.
But, I’ll tell ya, Obama just seems like another Republican to me. For him to evoke the name of Reagan during a Democratic Presidential Primary campaign – equating Reagan with the “great presidents” who evoked fundamental change in this country – well, it just really seals the deal against him for me. For chrissakes, Reagan all but destroyed unions – between disbanding the Air Traffic Controllers and loading the NLRB up with anti-union cronies, he set the labor movement back 80 years – ignored AIDS, allowing tens – even hundreds – of thousands of Americans to die without so much of a thought, supported Apartheid while denouncing Nelson Mandela, illegally sold weapons to the “terror” state of Iran in order to finance the Contras, took Jimmy Carter’s solar panels off the White House, and, well, I gotta go to work, and can’t possible list all of Reagan’s sins in so short a time, but the point is, praising Reagan is a kick in the teeth to anybody that cares about what’s right for the average person, or the world.
And, I don’t mind that Obama was dissing Bill Clinton, either. There’s a hell of a lot of things I didn’t like about the Clinton Administration. But, for a Republican, Bill was a pretty good president. And whether or not it was because of anything he did, you gotta admit, the Clinton years were pretty goddamn good (at least compared to the last seven or so).
If Bush is the guy you want to have a beer with, it’s not because you like him. It’s because his old man’s rich, and he’ll pay. For the price of that beer, you have to put up with his arrogant bullshit, and his annoyingly stupid “humor.” Bill is more like that crude guy who constantly boasts of his conquests in great, vulgar detail, even if they aren’t exactly good looking – giggity, giggity, giggity (that was for you, Andy) – but that you can’t help but like, in spite of yourself.
But, let’s face it. The Democrats aint had but two wins since 1980, and both of those were Bill Clinton. And you bring up Reagan as one of the greats? Kiss my ass, Barack! Talk FDR or Truman or Kennedy. But Reagan?
Save Reagan for when you pander to the GOP in the General Election, if you must.
Personally, I prefer Edwards. But, while I don’t trust Hillary, I feel like I know her, and I think I know what moves her (cold political calculation; I think she can be forced to do the right thing, but you gotta keep a close eye on her). Obama? I think he’s a slightly darker shade of Joe Lieberman. I don’t trust him one bit.
There’s an old saying: An honest politician is one who stays bought.
I don’t trust Obama to stay bought.
Valid points about Obama- but don’t they all have to evoke someone from the other side to appear bipartisan (like the thugs evoking Truman who would have thrown them all down the stairs) and it’s just going back too far to evoke Eisenhower?
I listened to a little of Ranti and you can’t make a good case for trusting any of them except for Kucinich.
But
whaddayagonnado :tap: ?
I dunno, must you pander to the Republicans during the Democratic primaries? And, if you must, go with Lincoln. Not every Republican’s wet dream fantasy Reagan.
Maybe the dems are pandering to the right to get the independent vote and then counterintuitively, will run to the left in the general election to get the populist vote :bong:
I’m not as enamored with Bill as you are- he lucked out with the net bubble that popped just as he was exiting stage right. I’ll never forgive him Nafta and media consolidation.
And don’t forget, Hillary was a “Nixon Girl” during her formative years.
Good Eve/Good Day Gents … :fist: A!I!V!
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Across the river they are talking economic stimulus. Apparently not one of those idiots studied economics, or remembers what they did study. Economic legislation takes 6-18 months to have a measurable effect on the economy. By then an stimulus package boils over into inflation. Meanwhile, this time around we already have the artifically imposed inflation due to petroleum and the misadventure called bio-fuels.
Let’s not call these proposals “economic stimulus.” Let’s call it what it really is – big business bailout. The banks and investment houses tried to get filthy dirty rich on the backs of the functional poor and it backfired on them.
I get so angry when I think of what the Republicans have done to this country, and will continue to do since they have infiltrated every branch of government with their political operatives. Add to that a court system now ruling based on Republican policy instead of a system of laws, and real Americans no longer have a place to turn. Makes one want to go for the high test OJ with the cornflakes.
Is it armageddon yet? Wake me when its all over.
I’m not enamored of Bill, really. Just in comparison to what we have now. He was actually to the right of Nixon. I thought he had a lot of potential, but he never lived up to it. But at least the guy could give a speech, and not make me feel embarrassed to be an American when he went abroad.
Oh, and I believe Hillary was a Goldwater girl.
Hey, NCB, how do you like living in the DC area? I think I’d have enjoyed my summer there if I’d had better living conditions (and a lot more money). Heard Jeff Farias talking about the Spy Museum the other day. I worked about two blocks from there. Always thought about going in, but never did.
Wet, wet, wet. It usually doesn’t rain in the morning in Florida, and usually when it does, I don’t want to get up on time. This must be an unusual day.
:yippee:
Today’s Woot is a Roomba, for all you budding Susan Calvin types out there.
There, let’s see how many people get that reference.
WOW, The last I looked and there was only 3 POSTS , now 10 :omg:
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:pirate: :yippee: Artnorton is ALPHA & GAMMA (RayGun) :pirate: :yippee:
PJSauter, is BETA :pup: (Danu thinks being a BETA tis 8)
:fist: A!I!V! :fist: :reaper: :dancers: She screams, “Are We Having Fun Yet?’
Joe Lieberman, BO’s Senate mentor.
Heh, if Druid’s invoking raygun, (#12) he can’t be all bad can he? :billcat:
Yeah, I heard about the Obama-Lieberman connection somewhere the last week :blech:
Is it way too conspiratorial to think that the crucification of Bill was a deal made to put us to sleep about all the republican things he accomplished? :tinfoil: :bong: :paranoid:
Nice late morning start for me. In fact I had planned to sleep later but forgot to get Minnie to agree to the schedule. So, she woke me up with the help of Clifford the cat, whose contribution was to start throwing things off shelves. They certainly got my attention.
I agree about Obama. He’s used Republican frames too often. The one that really stuck in my craw was the “social security crisis” bit. I’d love to elect a black guy with Muslim family members, but I want to elect a liberal Democrat.
I think Hillary is calculating, but if she weren’t she would face the same fate as Kucinich…the darling of the left, but essentially unelectable. I also think she’s the toughest.
I like what Edwards says, but I worry that he would be eaten alive by those right-wing slash and burn guys. He never fought back about the haircut nonsense and so it is still THE story. None-the -less I like what he says and I don’t know if I’m going to vote for the guy who says mostly what I want to hear or the woman who often says hawkish stuff the infuriates me.
As for Bill, he was not liberal enough, but he was a whole lot better that the Rethugs. Actually, there has never been a president as liberal as I would like. But, having campaigned for many liberal presidential candidates, I can confidently say that they don’t win.
On the local level we have elected some real liberal candidates but once they are in office, even here in NYC, they somehow become ‘moderates.”
😳 I guess I am toooo SciFi/Game Player :omg:
Gamma Ray My Bad :spank: :hubba:
Yeh Fred said raygun so I was just “shooting” off The Ray. I will keep simple, and KNOW ALL OF YA know its a GUN 8) 😆 8)
I listened to a little bit of Rayburn on AAR. He said he’s be doing this for a couple of weeks. I guess AAR is looking for a new morning show nd carefully avoiding Marc and Sam lest they do something their audience actually wants. :fustrate:
I don’t think they could talk Marc into it (not that I have any real idea what he would or wouldn’t do; I keep forgetting to go hang out on his front porch, like a good stalker), but Sam would probably go for, you’d think. Hell, he’s still with them.
But they probably want somebody who will work for doughnuts.
I was just IM’ing [oh i was told it was to complicated to explain :rofl2: ] to Aus (HaHa) about 2 Sea Shepherd crewmembers that were kidnapped….BTW THEY DIDN’t JUMP OVER.
They delivered a Formal Declaration. :fist: A!I!V! :fist:
Seder keeps saying off air that there will be no AAR morning show when Reaburn is done.
PJ, working outside DC isn’t too bad, as long as I don’t want to drive anywhere around rush hours. There is a sign out on west I-66 designating rush hour lanes 3:00-8:00 pm. I live 6 miles from here. It usually takes me an hour to get home.
The food is good here what with all the different cultures. I miss San Francisco restaurants something fierce. The people watching here is as good as any Nevada casino. The customs can get a bit farcical, especially during high tourist season. And I love the museums. The Smithsonian is free and others are reasonable.
At the moment the weather is a little iffy. Snowing hard, but not sticking. Hi temperature is predicted for rush hour, though.
Who’s channeling Reagan, third worst president in American history? He’s the cause of most of our problems today. Raganomics has just about killed the golden goose. becuase of that man and his mindless adherents we now have the third largest economy in the world. And as it falls it is dragging most of the western world with it.
I was in DC a week ago and was hoping to go to Charlottesville via I-66 but got turned around and never found it. I decided to just take I-95 the way Google Maps suggested heading west at Fredericksburg. Big mistake! It took me from 3:30 to 6 PM to move about 45 miles. Silly thing was I had ended up on I-66 by mistake the day before headed to MD but that worked out much better.
I did drive around RFK stadium twice while lost and remembered the attempted levitation of the Pentagon.
Paging Mr. Earl…
Richard Knerr, 82; co-founded Wham-O, maker of the Hula Hoop and Frisbee 🙁 :gate:
Charlottesville from D.C.
I-495 west to I-66.
I-66 west to U.S. 29.
U.S. 29 south to Charlottesville.
The real trick is to do it before sunrise on a weekend. Otherwise, you’re screwed!
I was supposed to turn left on Constitution somewhere. I should have taken I-495 but I’ve been horribly lost on the beltway before. At least now I am back in SF so tell me where I can eat for you.
I did pretty well most of the time in DC (especially after I got the GPS), though I tried not to drive much – especially during rush hour. Found a drive-through beer store in MD, that I thought was great. I was working for the Smithsonian, so I got around to all the museums (and the zoo). Got pretty blasé about them and the monuments. Especially after riding the red line into work every day, looking at the Washington Monument in the distance while passing by homeless people sleeping under the bridges. And of course all the homeless around Union Station. Quite sad.
I worked about a block from Chinatown, where the Chinese were mostly priced out. So you have all the same crap as anywhere else, except they have Chinese characters on the signs.
And of course the summer I was there, they were running about a murder a day, and people were getting mugged at night in the Mall, which had previously been more or less safe ground.
Then you tool around Northern VA, and see such immense wealth. Pretty astounding. It’s no wonder the people in power don’t give a crap about the rest of us. Who spends much time thinking about the ants around the picnic table, except to squash them if they get too annoying (or just out of boredom)?
San Francisco eateries:
Nick’s Lighthouse at Fisherman’s Wharf
The Four Seas on Grant Ave in Chinatown
Pick one on Columbus in North Beach — Calzones, Steps of Rome…
Finish the day at the Beach Club with a couple cold ones as the sun sets.
DC’s Chinatown is tiny compared to San Francisco’s.
Richard Knerr, 82; co-founded Wham-O, maker of the Hula Hoop and Frisbee Sunday In The GG Park. 🙁 :gate:
Dear Washington Post,
Didn’t anyone in Washington study economics? It takes 6-18 months for any economic stimulus to have a measurable effected. What is being discussed is taxpayer bailout for bad management in the nations largest financial institutes.
Deregulated Republican policy has once again bitten us, this time very badly. If nothing else this proves big business cannot regulate itself – only fools thought they would – and Reagonomics is a disaster.
The congressional idea of “economic stimulus” is something to make the corps look really profitable so that the market goes back up.. they could care a S* about the people.. :gate: :omg: :jason: :jason: :fist:
I wouldn’t say “bad management” a lot of it borders closely on grand larceny. :reaper: :reaper: If you or I did what the corps do on a regular basis to keep people investing in their lie would have a local DA put us away for 30 years. :gate: :omg: :jason: :jason: :fist:
Most investment managers for these funds that drive Wall Street must be dumber that S* to keep investing their money in these fraudulent schemes. ( I will bet most of them are republicans) :gate: :omg: :jason: :jason: :fist:
To drive on the beltway in DC for the first dozen or so trips requires a navigator in the passengers seat.. There never seemed to be time to react or a place to put your car in the traffic when you saw that the right six lanes exit ahead. :omg: 😮 😮
So did Laura explain what happened to Heartman today ?? Maybe the “they” came for him last night. :reaper: :reaper:
All SF places that I have never been to, NCB. Always looking for new spots. I usually hit the House of Nanking when in Chinatown or Brandy Ho’s.
I know the DC Chinatown. The old Smithsonian Folkways offices used to be near there. I hear dining in DC is improving. I used to like Luigi’s on 19th when I was in college but that was many years ago.
Love that Smithsonian!
I remember hearing something about Hartmann and his wife celebrating their anniversary but it looks like this had been planned for a while.
Check out Jonah Goldberg on TDS last night (not FireFox friendly).
Ah, the National Portrait Gallery/American Art Museum had just reopened the summer I was there (right towards the end of my sentence). It was right around the corner from where I worked (I was on like 9th between G and H). They did a great job rehabbing the building. It was actually the same building where Lincoln had his second inaugural ball.
So what is the Shultzturd talking about … no bread lines.. where are there not hundreds or even thousands of people lined up to get a meal at a soup kitchen in any major city in Amerika ?? :gate: :omg: :jason: :jason: :fist:
PJ re 38, :growl: :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: :growl: :reaper: A!I!V!
Apple users
so I guess I
anAM Bi :omg: :rofl2: .. PC & iTunes & iPod & whatever :fist: A!I!V! :fist:Vernon, I’m glad I’m not the only one who remembers the attempted levitation of the Pentagon. As I remember they claimed that they did levitate it at 3AM, when we were sleeping. The purpose of all that was to raise the building so the evil spirits who were responsible for the Viet Nam War could escape.
Joe Lieberman, BO’s Senate mentor.
Comment by pjsauter — January 17, 2008 @ 7:58 am
I was under the impression that mentors were assigned to freshman senators, meanng Obama did not choose Holy Joe as his man. Is this not correct?
So did Laura explain what happened to Heartman today ?? Maybe the “they†came for him last night.
Comment by fred — January 17, 2008 @ 2:48 pm
He explained Wednesday that he and Louise are taking a mini-vacation for their postponed anniversary, or something like that. They are in London through Saturday.
It’s nice to be able to listen to Laura for a couple of days, since I can’t get AAR on weekends. Her voice is very soothing, with that accent. Too bad she’s on the other team. (Like if she was, I would have a shot. :doh: )
It’s almost Friday :yippee:
Supposedly, the March 31, 2006 Hartford Courant (sorry, don’t have a link; all you can get from their archives for free is an abstract of the article, though if you search for the phrase below, you get this article: A RISING STAR VISITS HARTFORD THE DARLING OF HIS PARTY ILLINOIS SEN. BARACK OBAMA WOWS THE FAITHFUL AT DEMOCRATIC FUNDRAISER MARK PAZNIOKAS; Hartford Courant; Mar 31, 2006; A.1; ) reported:
That was at the CT Democrats’ annual dinner, where Obama endorsed Lieberman.
Economic stimulus – the first two suggestions from Republicans were increase food stamps and extend unemployment benefits. What the… Republicans suggesting expanding two programs they want ended? How about figuring out what is wrong and FIX THE DAMNED PROBLEM!
Oh, and don’t forget the massive one-time tax breaks for big business. Republicans can never forget that fixing anything always includes subsidizing big business.
:peace:
Travis, Tea and :bong: :peace: Cheers … A!I!V!
Did anyone tape the show on Jeff’s, today?
I had to do certain errands. :dancers:
I do not care about first hour but the 2d hour with the retired C.I.A.
gentleman, I sadly missed, except for the LAST 5 Minutes. 🙁 Rats.
Podcasts of Jeff’s show are free. It’ll be up by morning.
So Lee Rayburn is just a temporary fill-in and nothing thereafter?
Serves them right I guess. XM will stick Bill Press on that spot.
A Tom Scharpling fan’s video that is great in so many ways :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhy4yZ_k3yk
GET OFF MY RADIO !!!!
Green960’s New Programming Schedule Beginning on Monday, January 21st
6AM – 7AM Stephanie Miller
7AM – 9AM John Scott
9AM – 12PM Thom Hartmann
12PM – 3PM Ed Schultz
3PM – 4PM
Rachel Maddow*
4PM – 7PM
Randi Rhodes
7PM – 9PM
Rachel Maddow
9PM – 12AM
Mike Malloy
12AM – 3AM
Peter B Collins
3AM – 6AM
Bill Press
The old PD has been replaced by a guy who now has a new morning show from 7-9 AM and they will only air the first hour of Stephanie. Strange. At least the new guy is not a righty repug like that last PD.
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Link “pinkies” and pull, but do not break and say:
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