So, Super Tuesday is finally here. Thanks to the withdrawal of John Edwards, I have a few decisions to make today. First off, should I even bother to vote at all?
It wasn’t that long ago that I was a registered ‘no preference,’ meaning I was ineligible to vote in New York State primaries. I didn’t actually register as a Democrat until after the rat bastard Republicans wasted a lot of time and money impeaching Bill Clinton.
It takes a while for a change of party to kick in here, so the first Presidential primary I had a chance to vote in was 2004. I voted for Howard Dean and, well, true to form, he didn’t win. So, this’ll be my second crack at putting the curse on a candidate (technically, I suppose, I already cursed Edwards, so maybe I can bring down two people this primary season).
It’s worse, too, because, unlike the Republican primary, this one isn’t winner take all. If it was, I could safely vote for whoever the hell I wanted to (or not at all) ‘cuz Hillary is probably gonna win here. But for the primary, my vote actually represents some tiny fraction of a delegate (depending on how many people vote).
In New York, there are a total of 281 delegates for Democrats. 151 of them are allocated proportionally based on the results of the primary within each Congressional district, either 81 or 85 delegates (I’ve read both; I don’t know if anybody actually understands how the fuck this works, to be honest) are elected at the State Democratic Convention in May (presumably, whoever gets the most delegates in the primary will walk away with them), and 49 (or 45, again, depending on which number you believe) delegates are unpledged super delegates, who will vote whichever way the wind blows (probably most of them will go for Clinton, ‘cuz, well, she’s a bit of a player in the NYS Democratic Party).
That’s not confusing enough, of course, so in addition to selecting a presidential candidate, Democratic voters in each Congressional district can also vote for 5 or 6 delegates. We can choose delegates who are supporting the candidate we vote for, or we could, say, vote for Obama while voting for 5 delegates committed to Clinton. Why would we do that? I have no idea, but we could (we could even do it by mistake, and never know we did it). And, not every candidate has a full slate of delegates in every district. So then they pick the delegates some other way. Or something.
In each Congressional district, a candidate has to get 15 percent of the vote to receive any delegates. And, yes, there will still be six people on the ballot: Clinton, Obama, Edwards, Kucinich, Richardson and Biden.
So, assuming I decide to vote, then what? I’m inclined to vote for Edwards anyway, but is that just throwing my vote away?
Do I vote for Obama? He was against Iraq as an Illinois State Senator, but once he was elected to the US Senate, he never saw a war appropriations bill he didn’t like. He also seems to have a propensity to duck the tough votes, and declared the Alito filibuster dead before he grudgingly voted against cloture. As Sue posted the other day, on the campaign trail, he touts a bill that started out requiring all nuclear plant owners to notify state and local authorities immediately of any size leak, no matter how small. This came about after a plant operator – Exelon Corp – was found to have not disclosed leaks at one of its nuclear power plants. But the reality is that Obama ‘compromised’ the bill to death until it became just a suggestion that maybe the plant owners would let people know about a leak, if they felt like it. Obama’s staff insists that this has nothing to do with the fact that, since 2003, executives and employees of Exelon have contributed at least $227,000 to Obama’s campaigns for the US Senate and for president, two top Exelon officials are among his largest fund-raisers, and another Obama donor is chairman of both Exelon and the Nuclear Energy Institute (the Nuke industry’s lobbying group). In fact, Exelon’s support for Obama far exceeds its support for any other presidential candidate, and Obama’s chief strategist, David Axelrod, has worked as a consultant to Exelon.
Obama’s health care plan leaves about 15 million people uninsured, and, according to Jonathan Gruber of M.I.T. (via Krugman):
“a plan…resembling the Obama plan, would cover 23 million of those currently uninsured, at a taxpayer cost of $102 billion per year. An otherwise identical plan with mandates would cover 45 million of the uninsured — essentially everyone — at a taxpayer cost of $124 billion. Over all, the Obama-type plan would cost $4,400 per newly insured person, the Clinton-type plan only $2,700.
In other words, as Krugman points out:
One plan achieves more or less universal coverage; the other, although it costs more than 80 percent as much, covers only about half of those currently uninsured.
Then, of course, there’s Obama’s rather maddening tendency to embrace the Republican frame on many issues (Social Security is in crisis, “Harry and Louise†mandated insurance, etc.) while invoking the name of St. Reagan (not that he agreed with Reagan, of course).
Perhaps the biggest problem I have with Obama is something that doesn’t really have much to do with him. It’s the whining ignorance of so many of his supporters (not all; probably not even most. The asshole minority always stands out, though). They hated Edwards, even as their candidate rushed to incorporate much of Edwards’ platform into his own campaign, and whine at every perceived slight to Obama, no matter how tiny or obscure.
But then there’s Hillary. Hillary, who gave a great speech against giving Bush the authority to use force against Iraq, and then voted to go ahead and give it to him anyway – and refuses to say, “hey, I was wrong.†Like Obama, she continues to vote to fund the occupation, and hasn’t exactly been leading the charge to get us the hell out of there. She didn’t stand up, as Chris Dodd did, and threaten to veto retroactive immunity for telecom companies (neither did Obama). Hillary voted for the Kyl-Lieberman amendment on Iran (a vote Obama conveniently missed), and is beholden to any number of huge corporate donors and lobbyists – including the insurance companies. Her healthcare plan, while it appears to cover everyone and has subsidies for low income families, is still not a single-payer system, and is still a boon to her friends in the insurance industry.
I would fully expect a President Hillary Clinton to do any number of things that I would totally disagree with (just as her husband did). But my biggest fear is that she’ll be goaded into bombing somebody, just to prove she’s as tough as a man. Maybe I’m a wimp, but I wouldn’t mind a little less ‘tough guy,’ and a little more ‘gentle woman.’
There’s a lot to dislike about Hillary. Her posturing, her political calculation, her inability to admit she was wrong (reminds you of somebody else, no?), just for starters. Plus, I’ve been told for almost 20 years now that I should despise her, and that’s sunk in a bit. I wonder, if she was a man – or even just anybody else – would I find her ‘bad’ characteristics as discomfiting?
How much of my unease with Hillary is that I don’t find her particularly likable? And, do I really want to base my vote on who is more likable (who I’d rather ‘have a beer with,’ so to speak)?
Then there’s the issue of – dare I say it – ‘electability.’ I can think of few things more frightening than President George W. Bush – but President John McCain is definitely one of ’em (President Cheney would be another). McCain is a crazy megalomaniac who wants endless war. Unfortunately, Hillary Clinton – no matter what you may think of her personally – is absolutely despised by wingnuts and liberals alike. She may be the one person who can drive the wingers to the polls while keeping the ‘progressive purists’ at home – or voting for Nader – this year.
Not that Obama won’t engender a certain amount of hatred and bigotry. There are plenty of crackers, I’m sure, who will refuse to vote for ‘one of them.’ But I think the prospect of a smart woman – especially this particular smart woman – is a lot scarier to a lot more people than a slightly brown, ‘ethnically diverse’ man. Hell, everybody loves Tiger Woods, after all. Smart ambitious women, though…. They’re scary bitches. If you don’t believe me, ask Maureen Dowd.
There’s no debating the fact that the young folks are on the Obama bandwagon, and it’s nice to see the kids all excited about politics. And many of us, um, more mature folks are just plain sick of hearing the name Clinton, I think. Plus, all the celebrities and most of the Kennedys are pulling for Obama, too. Yep, it’s ‘cool’ to be an Obama supporter, and who doesn’t wanna be cool? I’m not sure why he’s cool. I guess it’s ‘cuz he’s different, and he’s gonna “change†everything (although, I can’t figure out how he’s different, to be honest. I find his rhetoric to be the same pablum I’ve heard a million times before). Frankly, I think he and Hillary are just about indistinguishable. If Hillary is Republican-lite, Obama is Hillary-lite.
So, anyhow, after lots of hand-wringing and angst, I’m still no closer to figuring out who the hell to vote for. It would have been so much easier had Edwards stuck around for another week. And it’ll be a lot easier come November, too, because either of these two would make a much better preznit than these idiot old white Republican men.
Today, though, I continue to be at a loss. If you’re in one of the 22 Super Tuesday states, I hope you’ve figured out what to do, and that you’re certain (if not happy) about your choice.
As for me, I might just have to sit this one out.
Happy Mardi Gras, Y’all. I’ll probably throw my vote away because it’s all about the throws.
Vote early and often. It’s OK. This is so short, no one will see it.
There are two choices ONLY…I will not vote for one that holds hands with several evangelical Christians and campaigns with them. :fist: A!I!V! It is that easy.But I am glad the youth are so moved, but not for one who is as he. Go Hillary. When you lose to Obama, I have to go to work with more intent and “focus” harder so I can Save Some (more) of the Innocent — that most Humans cared not for, whom are dying.
I am voting with Bobbie Kennedy, not Teddy. Tea Cheers. *poof*
superb rant pjsauter!
morning gang, up late here.
good stuff here:
SUPER TUESDAY
A vast and varied test
By Rhodes Cook
http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/article.php?id=FRC2008013101
Religious bigotry
I don’t entirely embrace this column but it has some merit. When it comes to the issues of religion and faith I am firmly in the none of the above column but I am strongly against the fundamentalism, intolerance and hatred that would infringe on other people’s rights and divides and destroys humankind.
Yes, great rant, pj. It is gonna be a conundrum, probably for the rest of our lives. The perfect and the pure ain’t gonna happen.
SunJ, great link even if I sometimes recoil when I see the name of Sabato.
I finally watched this. Nicely done.
Good Knight
Happy Fat Tuesday, y’all. Hope you’re giving up something good for Lent.
Assuming Walnuts is the Repig nominee, here are your options:
1) McCain vs. Clinton. In which we spend the rest of the election cycle reliving the ’90s and hearing about McCain’s 20-some years of experience vs. Hil’s 7 years in the Senate and 8 years as Bill’s unelected second-in-command. Millions yawn, the youth vote stays home, and we continue to murder in Iraq for the next hundred years.
2) McCain vs. Obama. In which the past is pitted against the future. Hope vs. no hope. Change vs. change my diaper.
Look, there are things about Obama’s candidacy I’m not wild about, but if these are the only two options we have (sit the fuck down, Ralph), it seems better to make history than to be history. Obama brings out the young voters who otherwise wouldn’t have a reason to be involved, and flushes McCain down the crapper like yesterday’s stool. Which he is.
Not to mention that if we retire his ass, maybe Walnuts will go home and his wife will want to redecorate, which would give Krista a gig. Think of it as an opportunity to help a starving artist.
:rofl2:
I thought I read somewhere that since Edwards only suspended his campaign that he can still collect delegates- thus you would not be wasting your vote for Edwards and that he could still have some kind of brokering position at the convention.
yes
i’m giving up commercials.
Re 4, & Religious bigotry: Since I was speaking nationally, and have been verbally Damned, until I spoke, which I no longer do, then those wearing tees saying “Love Christ or Die.” and called me The Great
SatinSatan and chanting 666, for having a different faith. Oh and lets not forget “The Great Whore”.They, The Christians, would call even my phone and threaten me that they were going to KILL ME mostly and then even started threatening my groups. I just went and spoke on Larry King Live, with a Christian minister and I swayed many, then (in that wee time period) many to see “Fairness”. Time Moves.
I and My Groups stopped the “Witch Hanging” at Knotts “Scary” Farm. Hangings just for a larger group is not okay, but for smaller “faiths” that is okay.. :fist: A!I!V! I was talking also on LKL about TAX issues also.
I’m not sure what happens with the votes for Edwards. He would need to get 15% in any case, which doesn’t seem likely at this point.
I only wish Obama would say something to make me think he would actually bring about change. Having him declare in Boise that he’s been “praising Jesus” didn’t help (for me). Heard him on NPR last night saying he’s get Hillary’s ‘votes’ but that she wouldn’t get ‘his.’ Then his wife said she’d have to ‘think about’ supporting Hillary if she (Hillary) was the nominee.
I just don’t know. I look at Hillary’s voting record, the support she gets here in NY for working on children’s issues and women’s issues and working folks issues, and I can’t quite figure out why I’m hesitant to vote for her. Her having been Senator here for 8 years, I think we’re a bit more familiar with her than people in other states, who primarily get the traditional media spin on her.
I think it all comes down to the Iraq vote (and Obama wasn’t in a position to make a difference either way at the time, but has since said he didn’t know how he’d have voted, and has voted to fund the occupation), and to the ‘electability’ issue. Who would make a better president doesn’t seem to fit into the equation at all.
pretty obvious for a long time that the front runners can all play their audiences.
i think they all have multiple personality disorders.
PJ, as usual, you’ve done a great job of setting out the issues.
I have decided to vote for Hillary because I believe she will be the stronger candidate. I think Obama will not hold up as well to the Rethug smear job that is coming. Both he and his wife, do not take criticism well.
What did he think would happen on the campaign trail? Whatever slights he perceived from Hillary were not the stuff that requires snubbing her at the SOTU or worse, hesitating to vote for the Dem in the general. This is very immature stuff and makes me very uncomfortable with Obama.
Of course, I will support in any and all ways that I can, the Dem candidate whoever he or she is.
:joe: :joe: :joe: :joe: :joe: 😮 😮 :yuck: and :yuck: :yuck: :crap: :paranoid: 😯 😯
Its snowing ( again) :sheep: le
Just in case you want to get your Xmas shopping done early, you can put these on my list. I could probably make do with the Breeze 125, but if you want to spring for a couple of Hurricane 400s, we could have a helluva snowball fight. Careful, though, these are what killed Ned Flanders’ wife.
Vote for Edwards! He’s still on the ballot, and his total will show the candidates that we still think his issues are important.
:fustrate: You guys are confusing me! But I keep coming back to electibility and I think Obama has the better chance of beating Walnuts. Now, if somehow, the deal he made with the Devil hisself falls through and Mr. Magic Underpants gets the rethug nomination, I think either of them could win. Also, there’s a momentum that is building around Obama. He’s like the Pied Piper or something. He walks by playing his magic flute and all the people and animals stop what they’re doing and follow him. :dancers:
I really should get dressed and go over to the polls. :bong:
I think Obama’s gonna sweep it up today.
That was a good article on religious bigotry, Vern. I think that the religious right has good intentions but have been kidnapped by rethugs in the last 30 years and maybe they are realizing it. The Falwell’s and Robertsons’ have really used their followers to gain power.
This is what I got from our Kucinich coordinater. :smack: :fustrate:
I really should get going, but Al Franken is on Steph’s show.
Okay, I voted and I had to vote provisionally :tap: I did everything I needed to do to be on the rolls. The lady mentioned there have been a lot of provisional votes this morning and a woman next to me said it seemed like it was independants who changed to dem to be able to vote in the primary. I will be tracking this and talking to Mr. Farias today.
Outstanding opening, PJ.
I filled the bubble in for Hllary because of her judicial record which I believe will be of supreme, literally, importance. Justice Stevens can’t hold out much longer.
However, I do believe that if Obama gets the nomination, the young voters will turn the tide away from the Rethug angry white man candidate. I do not believe they will come out for Senator Clinton.
But I chose my biggest issue over electability. Voting on who could win never worked for me because I am not clairvoyant on political matters.
I am allowing myself to be swept up in the Obama excitement. I’ve been feeling old lately. :knit2: :knit:
KP, It’s easy to get swept up in it – the message has made me question my vote more than once. i felt old when i saw all those kids jumping up and down during the Tom Petty half time show. I saw Petty in Santa Cruz when I was in college. :tongue:
Marc and Sam now. Can’t link, i’M on apple
:rofl2:
I saw Tom Petty with Bob Dylan (Dylan played with Petty and the Heartbreakers) when they warmed up for the Grateful Dead at RFK stadium in July 1986, and they were all already old (like, my age now). That was right before Jerry collapsed into a diabetic coma for five days. He managed another nine years, though.
Past M v. S VODs later today? Sammy sez, who knows
Great glitch free Maron v. Seder today. I wish I could figure out the stupid IM part. I hate being left out.
I couldn’t watch today, so I guess I’m left out all the way around. Sucks to be me.
As for the IM, KP, you can actually connect to AIM through google chat (right there in your gmail). It’s a fairly simple interface (not a lot of bells and whistles), but it works. Might even work on a Mac.
i felt old when i saw all those kids jumping up and down during the Tom Petty half time show. I saw Petty in Santa Cruz when I was in college.
Comment by Farmerkat — February 5, 2008 @ 10:54 am
I feel your pain, FK. I saw Petty at the Music Hall in Cleveland when I was in college, I think around ’78. Good show, although I can’t for the life of me remember who opened. Maybe I was
:bong:
Petty looked good considering we all saw him in our “yout” and he was….mature back then. How old is that dude? He has nice teeth.
i saw the Dead in Orygun. :bong:
You know, I have never been a big Petty fan even though he sorta broke out of SF and was on Leon Russell ‘s :love: Shelter label. I always thought of him as totally derivative but I like his music because he rips off many of my favs (Byrds, Dylan, Harrison…). Unoriginal, but listenable.
BTW before I forget”
:pirate: :parrot: Vern is ALPHA :pirate: :yippee:
I am BETA :pirate: :yippee: :pup:
:pirate: :yippee: 8) Sunshine Jim is GAMMA(RAY)>>>>>>>>A!I!V!
PJ, if ya wish a wee wish: link pinkies: don’t break but pull saying:
“Chimney, Smoke, Our Wish May Not Be Broke.” 😉
According to Wikipedia, Petty was born on October 20, 1950.
Gawd, he’s not that old, is he? Druid, I like him because it’s just plain FUN! :dancers:
off to pick the stall. Don Juan is not as clean a donkey as Callie.
I’m heading for the left coast tomorrow! :banana:
This is so f***ing cool!!
‘kat,
You headed to LA? I think there was something going on down there, maybe Maron related.
andy,
That was great. Thanks. Maybe I was in there in the Candlestick shot.
Thanks Vern. I always wanted to know what the lyrics meant.
Careful, Kat. I have close personal friends who are even older than Tom Petty. 🙄
I just watched the Buddy Holly Story on the teevee last Saturday. I hear Gary Busey did all his own singing.
Most of today’s Maron v. Seder on MP3
Vote Romney! He shares my :cake: ❗
Of course, what they didn’t tell you is the real story, that Buddy Holly always carried a pistol, and the pilot was found with one shot to the back of his head, and Holly’s gun was found at the scene. But it was all a setup, because we know that the CIA had Buddy Holly assassinated (along with Otis Redding, Jim Morrison, John Lennon, Jimi Hendrix, Janice Joplin, Jim Croce, Mama Cass, Lenny Bruce…. Oh, just too many to list here). Oh, sure, you deniers will never beleive your country could do such a thing, but it’s all true. Wake up :sheep: le!
Jim Croce and no Gram Parsons. You lost me but rave on. :tinfoil:
I saw Busey w/ Rick Danko 🙁 :gate: and Paul Butterfield 🙁 :gate: and he could do it.
btw, Seder directed I’m with Busey.
And Hucka :bee: won the caucuses in WV :omg: . Shit.
Another Election Season, Another Political Prosecution in Alabama
The morning calm in the small Alabama town of Toney, located near Huntsville, was broken at 6:15 a.m. yesterday morning. A team of five FBI agents, accompanied by a prison matron, pounded on the door. When the man of the house answered, he was forced into the yard, shirtless in the early morning cold. The team had come for his wife, Sue Schmitz. She was dragged out of her bathroom, where she was taking a shower, handcuffed, breaking her flesh and scraping her wrists, and hustled off to prison.
Who was this threat to the community? Sue Schmitz is a diminutive, 63-year-old retired social studies teacher who has lived in the town for 38 years, roughly 20 of them as a civics teacher. She is loved in the community and among her students is legendary for her passion for civics and her outreach to the disadvantaged. The dream of her life was to let the fire of civic spirit catch on in communities and among families on the margin of society, where the danger of drug abuse and criminality are the highest. She dedicated her life to it. She launched a program called “We the People,†designed to build civic spirit and interest in participatory democracy among school children. And Sue Schmitz’s advocacy of civic engagement led directly to her conflict with U.S. Attorney Alice Martin, who considers it to be criminal. But one other fact figures directly in this drama. Schmitz is a Democratic member of the state legislature.
Yeah, I tried that PJ. I sent an invite and I don’t think I got but the auto response you get from Sams’ email.
I’ve been mailing this to everyone. Independents who recently reregistered as Dems need to FOLLOW THROUGH with their vote if they had to fill out a provisional ballet!
So I just went to go vote at my new polling place here in Phoenix, Az and I wasn’t on the rolls. I had to vote provisionally. Okay, I’ve worked the polls twice and once I ran it. I’ll get to see how the provisional ballot works as someone who filled one out, now. So I called the number on the pink receipt I got and finally got through to someone and asked why I wasn’t on the voter rolls as someone who did everything I needed to do and I even have a voter id card with all the current and correct information on it. And I also wanted to know if and when my provisional vote will be counted. This is the first time I’ve voted at this polling place and I re registered from independant to Democrat in November and got my card in the mail that says I’m a democrat. The woman passed me on to someone named Judy and she said that my party affiliation on their system was” no preference”. I said, “no, I have a card here that says I am a democrat, so it must be in the system”. She said that my vote would not be counted because I was in the system as NP. I verified for her the ID number on my card and she went off for a while and came back and said she would change the party affiliation in the system so it would be counted. I found an innocuous letter underneath the mountain of junk on my desk back in January that said something like “our records indicate that the address we have on file for you is different from the address on file at the post office, blah blah this needs to be taken care of by “this ” date”, which had already passed. I freaked out and went online to see if I was still registered and everything online looked fine. I think independents who have changed to democrat and/or moved and are gonna be at a new polling place have been put on a caging list. Judy at Maricopa County said something about a glitch in the system that people who registered before November 7 2007 are on the rolls. The issue date on my card is 11-16-07. Can we finally indict some people for shit like this? PLEASE!?
Oh, well, Sammy must be blowing you off. I think I added him in AIM, and then when they allowed it in gmail, it was just an import or something.
CNN says West Virginia hearts Huckabee.
It benefits both parties( not just the thugs as the liberal talk show host would tell you) when the candidates are preselected for you and they can discourage voter participation as much as possible.. Its just exemplified by the ordeal of that lady in TexASS .. if you don’t just stand in line and follow the person in front of you they intimidate you and although a lawyer can get you off it would cost at a minimum 30 grand to go after them and probably a couple of grand just to get you out of the lock up .. :tap: :tap:
Dow falls 370 points. Yikes!! Who has an extra bedroom, I can do home maintenance and light car repair.
Sammy Cam live now for Maddow.
Can’t explain WV. Left there too many years ago. Not sure I want to go back right now.
Well, in WV’s defense, it’s not like they had much to pick from.
Obama’s gonna be on Jeff’s show in a minute.
Obama wins Ga.
Already? Damn, they go to bed early in the South.
#23 WTF??? :knit: :knit2: old? 😡 I’ll be over at Ravelry.com with the grannies :dancers:
JFI a bit ago I have that wonderful Sticker saying I VOTED! with a flag :banana: I got 2 stickers. One on chest then moved to beret ❗ :dancers: :fist: A!I!V! When voted I couldn’s Help It, “I Tear’d”. As Ms :rant1: to Jeff said — no matter how one votes it is still a special vote, and even Jeff Tear’d. Sign Of The Times, I Would Say. 8)
re # 58
sblue, now don’t you go gettin’ crochety, now.
You gotta make allowances for those grumpy old folks, Vernon.
I’m gonna go knit me an apple cozy :knit:
Mark Green election coverage :jerk:
Mrs Art is in line for the Dem caucus in a northern Denver suburb-historically thug. There were 6 people who showed up for the last caucus. There’s a 150 people (!) still in line to get into a high school. Registration started @ 6:30.
(I didn’t get registered after we moved in time to caucus 🙁 )
It’s 21 F, single moms in line w/kids, 150 people in line for a caucus! In a republican city- I think we’ll be all right :joe:
Maron v. Seder VODs are raining down. I have not started checking them out yet. Let me know how they work.
Want a giggle? http://www.redstate.com/
Die you zombie bastards!
Enjoy your “victory”, 100 year McCain. You’re winning in all the states that the Dems are going to beat you in November like a rented mule!
I might have to go back to church. :sammy:
Cresttwo, nice to see ya.
Hey that link didn’t work vernon…you still on apple?
sblue, :rofl2:
Can’t blame the apple for that. 😳 I usually test them. The one below seems to work. Get in touch w/ me if you get a chance. I have a question.
http://www.samsedershow.com/vod
greeting bloggies!!!
:nixon: :banana: :40:
Happy Super Fat Tuesday!!! :doh: :alc: :love: :40:
California polls close in half an hour! :doh:
How early will they call Cali?
Remorse
🙁 :gate:
Cali is coming shortly
results on cali are early morning release.
I sent my addy to your skype chat vernon.
:peace: :gate: link :gate:
only 10 % is in for cali right now
So MSNBC called Colo for Obama.. They are saying that Hillary is booking many more speaking engagements so her campaign believes this one won’t be over until its over. :reaper: :reaper:
McInsane and Huckabee sheeeesh …
The Reich wing media says McInsane is to liberal :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: and that Huckabee who just a week ago they didn’t like because he was a populist is the true conservative .. typical for people with an audience with a 10 minute ( if that) attention span. :tap: :tap:
Well
If you thought that you heard a gurgling sound from just below your feet 😮 😮
http://moneycentral.msn.com/stock_quote?Symbol=$INDU
Probably had something to do with all those elitistas who have all that money of their own to spend on getting elected heading for the boat deck with their sacks of gold coin.. :reaper: :reaper: .
They are calling California for Clinton, even with the Horrid Bias of AAR & NovaM … :fist: A!I!V! I kept dreaming Gore and/or Edwards would “appear”. 🙂 🙁 Dramatis Personae
The way a caucus works is that all the democrats gather at the home of their precinct leader or in bar somewhere and vote verbally .. No vote is accepted for a candidate if it is 15% of the total or less. Once the vote is cast it is then called into party headquarters.. No ballots no mess much fuss. :tap: :tap:
BTW around here most precincts have 100 people or less in them :yawn:
Also
Apparently the local “party” ( remember the lady who calls the cops if you get to rambunctious) has to authorize the votes before the convention
Hence is this all show with no meaning ???
:nod: :doh: 🙄 A!I!V!
it wasn’t long ago that some analyst said that the political talk radio format was ‘dead” for all practice purposes..
The Reich wingers certainly didn’t get any of their candidates selected. :yippee: :yippee:
Just like the left to spend a lot of time and talent on something to do about nothing.. :reaper: :reaper:
Oh well beddy by time :yawn: :yawn: :yawn: