Today on Press the Meat there’s only one guest: President-elect Barack Obama.
Faze the Nation has Chris Dodd, Alabama cracker Jeff Sessions, and Hot, Flat and Stupid Tom Friedman.
On Fux News Sunday, Weaselface Wallace has the other Alabama cracker, Dick Shelby, plus Carl Levin, Lizard Queen Condi Rice, and the usual fuxheads.
Lizard woman makes another appearance at the Goebbels network. Also on with George Sufalufagus is Ron Gettelfinger, President of the United Automobile Workers. Plus, at the roundtable, it’s George :jerk: Will, Cokie “the hag” Roberts, Peggy “A Rose for ROnnie” Noonan, and E.J. Dionne.
Later, on 60 Minutes, Lesley Stahl visits Saudi Arabia, Morley Safer profiles Julian Schnabel, and they’ll trot out an old Mike Wallace interview with David Frost, done shortly before the Frost/Nixon interviews aired in 1977.
Not one mention of Pearl Harbor. I guess with all the infamy we’ve seen in the last eight years, Pearl Harbor just doesn’t stack up these days.
For you folks in the NYC area, Marc Maron will be at Union Hall in Brooklyn tonight at 9:15 (for free, even).
Have a good Sunday.
Obama said the massive government spending program he proposes to lift the country out of economic recession will include a renewed effort to make public buildings energy-efficient, rebuild the nation’s highways, renovate aging schools and install computers in classrooms, extend high-speed Internet to underserved areas and modernize hospitals by giving them access to electronic medical records.
“We need to act with the urgency this moment demands to save or create at least 2 1/2 million jobs so that the nearly 2 million Americans who’ve lost them know that they have a future,” Obama said in his weekly address, broadcast on the radio and the Internet.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/06/AR2008120602187.html?wpisrc=newsletter
I believe it’s Tom Waits’ birthday too. :cake:
I hope Obama is thinking about re training programs also. Someone who has been working in the auto industry this whole time will have a hard time getting a job in another sector without the right training.
From the Angry Chef…
Hey, Those of you in the NY area- Sorry about the late notice but I’m at Union Hall in Brooklyn tonight at 9:15 for free. I’ll be running some new stuff and some raw stuff.
Karmic justice: Gen. Eric Shinseki
SHINSEKI!!! :fire:
Just wondering what fellow MS’ists back east think about Caroline Kennedy taking Hill’s place?
For myself, I’ve had it with legacy appointments and ruling elites running this country as royalty whether their name is Bush or Kennedy.
I don’t care about all the good Caroline has surely done in her life. She’s lived a life of privelidge and I’m sure there’s some deserving NY politician who’ve had to get their hands dirty who could do as good or better job representing the people.
An I wrong?
I’m really not sure about her, art. I think she’d be more of a celebrity appointment than a legacy. She’s not a politician, which ordinarily might not be a bad thing, but in this case, whoever is appointed will have to run for office immediately for a special election in 2010, and then again in 2012. Not that she doesn’t have the connections to raise boatloads of money, of course. I also don’t know how she’d play in Upstate NY. Hillary spent a lot of time up here before she ran, and earned a lot of respect. She won Upstate both times she ran. Kennedy, I don’t know. Nobody knows much about her. NYC votes Democratic, Long Island is pretty solidly Republican, so it’s important for a candidate to do well up here, which leans Republican. Might be a good opportunity for St. Rudy to rehabilitate his career (if he doesn’t run for Governor).
Nydia Velasquez. Not that anyone’s asking for my opinion. But anyone who can keep Rudy out of that seat works for me.
Okay, I feel bad about offering to write the thread and flaking out. Been too self involved and generally freaked out. What’s the protocol for doing so? Being that I’m out west I’ll have to do it at night so the easterners got something new when they get up.
Are pirates terrorists? If so, are we fighting them? The White House and their operatives say we are in the middle of a war on terror. I think pirates would qualify as terrorists. So, why don’t we hear anything about the United States Navy fighting pirates, I mean terrorists.
Let me think. Ahhhh! Can’t contract it out with a no bid. There is no way to funnel mountains of public money to Halliburton or KBR. I get it. No profit, no motive, no war on terrorists, I mean pirates.
And what about the pirates plundering our tax dollars, eh? :tap:
KP, writing the thread is pretty simple. Click on site admin over on the right here. Click on write new post. Click publish when you’re through or change the time to the time you want it to appear and click publish.
I’ll look forward to your Saturday morning thoughts!
I think Caroline Kennedy is a person of substance and she would certainly have plenty of help from a family very knowledgeable about politics. I’m sure she would be reliably liberal, too. The question is as PJ says, can she campaign? Would Rudy run against her and if he did could he win.
PJ’s also right that NYC will vote Democratic, but Long Island is getting quite Democratic, too. Shelter Island, once so Republican that Democrats were only mentioned with a sneer, went for Obama this year.
Nydia Velazquez gets much respect from me but how she would play upstate and on the Island is a question. Nydia speaks with a pronounced Spanish accent.
Bill Clinton would probably be a strong senator and not open to an assault from Rudy but I can’t imaging that he’d want to do it.
I hope Gov. Paterson will choose well.
I don’t think a NYC person would run very well Upstate. There’s a great deal of animosity – rightly or wrongly – between Upstate and Downstate, with a lot of people up here resenting what they perceive to be favoritism when it comes to how state tax dollars are apportioned. NYC thinks the only thing north of Westchester is a few cows (ever see the movie Tootsie? They go to visit Jessica Lange’s father in Syracuse, which appears to be a barn in the woods). That famous New Yorker cover says it all. NY State government has pretty much always been controlled by Downstate politicians (and not in a good way, either), and I don’t think I can recall a Governor from these parts (and, no, Pataki from Peekskill doesn’t count).
There are some very serious problems economically here, and I don’t think a NYC politician would be perceived as giving a crap about us up here in the Great White North. That’s one reason Hillary did so well up here (and, to his credit, Chuck Schumer has made a real effort to be visible up here as well).
Rick Lazio’s big mistake in taking on Clinton was to try and paint her as a carpetbagger. What he didn’t realize is that she spent a lot of time getting to know the issues and the people up here, and that Long Island is about as far from Upstate NY as Arkansas, so that was a wash.
I’d probably do it more often but I lose the picture and embed function and have nothing much to work with. If I could embed, tomorrow morning would be done.
I would be fine with Caroline. She has smarts and grace and dignity and heritage. I think it would be interesting to see Rude-y trying to go all negative on her. Then again, Rudy on Bill might be delicious political porn.
Vernon, if I remember correctly, PJ says there is a way to embed . Here are his instructions:
To embed a YouTube video, don’t use ‘add media’ (it doesn’t work corrctly). Instead, use the URL for the video (e.g., http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JYXm0Mpits – don’t use the embed code), and surround it with “video” tags, like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JYXm0Mpits
Not all types of video are supported. YouTube videos and some others are. When you view the post, it will say “no embeddable” or something like that.
Rick Lazio’s mistakes were two. First he tried to make Hillary responsible for Bill lying about Monica and then he tried to bully her by shoving a paper for her to sign (about soft money, I think) in her face. Hillary handled him really well.
I don’t know if Rudy has a political future in NYS. He certainly wore out his welcome in NYC. Besides, the problems were different. Rudy came in as a crime fighter, when there was lots of street crime in NYC. Now the crime is committed by Rudy and his friends. He certainly didn’t play well during the presidential campaign. And, all his maniacal grandstanding and abuse of power didn’t seem to please all those Rethug pimary voters.
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Sorry, Sue. I have tried it all. Even the same damn thing pj will do when I send him the embed I can cut and paste and it will not work.
Lazio’s little debate stunt did make him look stupid (more stupid), but I don’t know how much it had to do with his dismal showing. He got into the race late, thanks to Rudy’s prostate problems, so that didn’t help. He didn’t have much statewide name recognition, and I think he made a total of two trips north of NYC (as opposed to Clinton, who, before she ran, did her “listening” tour and was very well known up here).
With NYC being so Democratic, there’s no chance in hell for a Republican to win statewide without winning Upstate by a pretty wide margin.
Vernon, being a complete dork with computers I have no advice to offer. On the day that I do the opening thread I can’t embed either, so I just post the link.
We got another one!
http://tinyurl.com/5teqxd
Kilroy replaces the odious Deborah Pryce, who chose not to run for re-election. And another little piece of my home state turns blue.
Way to go Mary Jo! And tell Al Franken to hang in there.
So, Peekskill is to blame for that guy, Pataki. :tap:
No mention of Cuomo? From a distance, either Cuomo senior or junior looks good. Aren’t they both crime-fighting pols with a heart? I’d trade you a Ken triangulating, middle of the road Salazar for a Cuomo any day.
NY Senate Seat =
I want another woman. I’m tired of men men men in the Senate and on the USSC. We need proportions akin to what we find in society – or close at least. I believe currently there are only 16. That is NOT proportionate. We need to replace Senator Clinton with another woman.
I’d like to see a woman with intellect, a fine Democrat (not dccc), who can speak real good :tongue: and who garners respect.
Obama supports the Chicago factory workers:
“When it comes to the situation here in Chicago with the workers who are asking for their benefits and payments they have earned, I think they are absolutely right,†said Obama during a Sunday news conference, as reported by the Chicago Sun-Times. “What’s happening to them is reflective of what’s happening across this economy.
“When you have a financial system that is shaky, credit contracts. Businesses large and small start cutting back on their plants and equipment and their workforces. That’s why it’s so important for us to maintain a strong financial system. But it’s also important for us to make sure that the plans and programs that we design aren’t just targeted at maintaining the solvency of banks, but they are designed to get money out the doors and to help people on Main Street. So, number one, I think that these workers, if they have earned their benefits and their pay, then these companies need to follow through on those commitments.
“Number two, I think it is important for us to make sure that, moving forward, any economic plan we put in place helps businesses to meet payroll so we are not seeing these kinds of circumstances again. Have we done everything that we can to make sure credit is flowing to businesses and to families, and to students who are trying to get loans? And to homeowners who have been making payments on their homes but are still finding their property values so depressed that it becomes very difficult for them to make the mortgage payments?”
Gov. Paterson is under pressure to name someone who is not from the City (Cuomo’s from Queens) and/or a woman, and/or a minority who can help him win the governor’s election and can get himself/herself elected as well.
Evening all.
Man Gifts Inauguration To Disadvantaged
Sue, you don’t know how much I :fustrate: trying to get it to work.
I don’t know who is out there in NY except for those being talked about. I don’t think Ani is interested and is living in NOLa these days anyway. NY has had a number of great women politicos.
It’s hard to imagine that sweet Caroline is almost as old as I am but politics runs in her veins and she has an abundance of folks to help her. It would be a tug at my heart to see her and Ted standing together in the Senate for a while. Call it sentimental or whatever but after all of the years it would just make me feel in some small measure the bullets did not entirely carry the day.
what a gift! That is fantastic!
I felt better about things after hearing Obama speak on Press The Meat. I’ve been concerned about his quest in Afghanistan and a little on the economy (Rubin was hanging around him a bit too much for my taste). Obama tip toed quite nicely through the mine field Brokaw set, I thought. And the fact that they both slammed Rumsfeld and gave Shenski his just due was worth voting for Obama on that point alone.
I have spent virtually NO money on anything other than food and gas for more than 9 Months. How is that good to ANYONE. If workers can’t pay their bills, then they can’t buy STUFF, period. These bailouts that help nothing but the rich bankers are ridiculous. YOU HAVE TO PUT MONEY IN THE POCKETS OF WORKERS to make the economy go. It seems pretty fucking simple to me. But no one ever fucking listens to me. I saw this shit waaaay back in 1999 when I tried to buy a house. And again, I saw the current recession/depression waaaay more than a year ago, but who listens to the immigrants and poor people down in the bottom of the Titanic who are treading water?? They just lock the gate on them. :fu: :fustrate:
I never thought I’d live to hear a US president boldly give support to some UNION workers who’ve taken over a factory :banana:
I’ve got nothing against Caroline- just want to see some fresh faces. I guess she’d be unbeatable in an election in NY- even more than any other dem already in office man or woman.
Tribune Co. ponders bankruptcy
THE WASHINGTON POST
11:54 PM EST, December 7, 2008
WASHINGTON – Media giant Tribune Co., saddled with billions in debt since it became a privately-held company last year, has hired bankruptcy advisers, according to its flagship newspaper, the Chicago Tribune.
The Chicago-based company owns a coast-to-coast empire with television stations and newspapers in most of the nation’s largest cities. Its holdings include the Los Angeles Times; cable television superstation WGN in Chicago; the Baltimore Sun; and WDCW-50 in Washington, the CW affiliate. The company even owns the Chicago Cubs.