There’s a reservoir around here that’s got a great hill for sledding. I know I’ve gone there (back when I was still young enough to trudge up a steep hill in the snow dragging a toboggan). It was cool, because it has kind of a two-level hill – a really steep upper part that levels out briefly, and then turns into a really steep and much longer lower part.
Over the years, kids have gotten hurt, since even if you don’t wipe out somewhere along the way, you have the potential to reach the road going at a pretty good clip. A while back, they put a fence around the upper hill, and put huge “NO SLEDDING” signs all the way around it. Naturally, this didn’t stop anybody, but I guess it helped with the City’s liability insurance.
This weekend, a 12-yr old girl managed to slam head first into a parked car, prompting cries of outrage for the City to “do something” about that hill. Sadly, she died last night.
Now, they’re scrambling to put up some of that orange plastic snow fence about 1/3 of the way up the hill (and at another, similar, reservoir in the City), which they say will come down in the spring and go back up in the fall (it’s a rather huge area, so even that plastic stuff will cost a bundle). Now, it’s very sad that this poor kid died, don’t get me wrong. But this is Syracuse, and it’s winter, and sledding is something fun for kids to do. Is it dangerous? Potentially. Care is certainly advised (for instance, try not to aim for the road). But it’s a dangerous world out there, and in the scheme of things, sliding down a hill isn’t the worst thing in the world. Something like 40-50 thousand people die in car accidents every year. Sonny Bono slammed his face into a tree while skiing. People drown, fall off of (and into) things, crash in airplanes, and die from all sorts of things. Hell, a block of toilet water ice can fall off an airplane and smack you in the head (it happened in Six Feet Under, anyway).
I mean, do we outlaw every potentially dangerous activity in the world, never leaving the house unless we’re wearing chain mail suits, inside portable shark cages? Kids (and adults) are gonna do some dumb things. They’ll get hurt, and some will die. It’s always sad when it happens, but that’s the nature of life on this planet. Nobody gets out alive. There’s no point in going out of our way to get ourselves killed, but while we’re here, we can either live our lives the way we’d like to, or cower in fear at the possibility that something horrible is about to happen.
If we want to expend time, energy, outrage, and, yes, money over something, why not put some effort into ending poverty, starvation, and war? Why not stop poisoning our air and water (and maybe quit shooting wolves from helicopters)?
Or isn’t there enough money in that?
Experiencing childhood can be dangerous- sometimes it can kill you. Maybe we could all sue our parents for allowing us to roam freely and for not duct-taping styrofoam bumper guards around our vulnerable bodies.
Shame on Syracause for not having a cop with radar giving the little darlings a ticket for speeding down the hill. :slap:
Maybe they can pull some money out of a soup kitchen to take care of this problem :no: (which they’ll probably have to do after they settle with the lawyers)
If we could sue our parents, boy howdy….. When me and my brother were 4 and 5 years old we would stand in the back seat of my mom’s Pinto so we could see out the window. She started leaving us home alone when I was 6, she was just divorced and probably couldn’t afford child care. We were latch key kids from then on. There was a steep hill in my neighborhood in Ga that all the kids would race down on bikes, skate boards and anything else with wheels. One time my brother was speeding down on the bike he just “fixed” and the front wheel came off and he went flying over the handle bars. Of course I laughed my ass off. :rofl2: And do you think we even had bike helmets in the mid 70’s?? Another time we had built a fort in the woods by the lake and some kids parents had thrown away a bunch of stuff including candles. So we transferred much of it to the fort to decorate and of course, started it on fire. Luckily we were right next to the lake and were able to put it out. No one found out. And I just went through ladder safety training on Monday and have to wear a friggin’ hard hat on the 6′ A frame ladder! I’m not even allowed to paint flowers on my hard hat! :rant1:
But here’s where fire is helpful.
And this lovely article by Peter Schiff.
The Fed’s Bubble Trouble
AHHH, the innocence of childhood.
We used to build dirt forts and shoot roman candles at each other-
Blow up mailboxes with firecrackers-
Blew up a barbque pit with a cherry bomb (for a week they thought I might lose an eye)
Blew up ant hills
Broke my leg at my first boy-scout meeting-
Cracked two vertabrae performing gymnastics (in traction for six weeks) 😯
(I’ll skip the alcohol-fueled adventures in HS)
We used to go into my basement, turn off the lights, and have dart wars. When you heard movement, you threw a dart as hard as you could. Usually, you’d just hit my dad’s knotty pine paneling or maybe a piece of furniture, but once in a while you’d hear a scream of pain, and know you sunk one in pretty good.
Not only was it fun, we never put anybody’s eye out (amazingly).
My other joy was doing horrible things to model cars and plastic army men. Usually involving firecrackers and gasoline (which I also used on ant hills; ashamed to say I used to do nasty things to the things that looked like blue lady bugs with a magnifying glass). The only reason I built models was to blow them up. Except for my Starship Enterprise models, of course. I would never blow them up.
Night Darts! :rofl2:
If you look at childhood from the point of view of a child, the thrills of pushing the limits loom large as they are the way you expand and grow up. It’s what kids are supposed to do.
But, a parent wants to protect a child. That is always the inherent conflict in the good/parent child relationship. (I know there are plenty of terrible parent/child relationships where the protecting the kid
is not part of the equation.)
It would really be nice if there were a way to make the hill safer so that a sledder can’t head into traffic.
Maybe they should build a wide berm in front of the street so that sledders don’t go into the street.
But that doesn’t protect them from getting hit by a car on the way to the hill (or their way back home).
And it leaves them vulnerable come summer time, when they can fall off their bicycles or run into a tree or something. Just this last summer, a kid on a bicycle was killed when she veered unexpectedly in front of a pickup truck.
I think it’s unsafe to leave the house w/o wearing a motorcycle helmet, and maybe some sort of suit made out of airbags. Even then, it’s pretty risky.
Not as risky as being a poor kid, though. Depending on whose statistics you use, a child dies every two to five seconds from hunger-related causes. Not much a snow fence can do about that, but I bet you could save a few with the money it costs.
We had a great place to sled in Richmond at a seminary. The only thing was that after a long flat area at the bottom of the hill there was the Kanawha Canal. Every year a few kids would end up in the canal.
:omg:
Of course, being a seminary and all the idea of people enjoying themselves was a problem
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so they eventually gated off the property so people would not be able to use this beautiful gift of God’s creation. Before that happened I did take a merry band of fellow high school classmates out there to form a peace symbol on the side of the hill for a ‘social statement’ spread we had to buy in the back of the yearbook.
:fist: :jesus: :nixon: :peace: :peacesymbol:
The Internet may not be such a dangerous place for children after all.
A task force created by 49 state attorneys general to look into sexual solicitation of children online has concluded that there is not a significant problem.
The findings ran counter to popular perceptions of online dangers as reinforced by depictions in the news media like NBC’s “To Catch a Predator” series and are the latest study to suggest that concerns about the Internet and sex abuse against children are overblown. Ina an article last February in American Psychologist, the journal of the American Psychological Association, researchers concluded that most allegatiosn about the Internet and sexual abuse were myths.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/59651.html
New information sheds more light on GOP IT guru’s tragic death
Re #9. Because there are many dangers does not mean that we don’t mitigated those that we can. It’s not really good advice to tell a kid to play in traffic, even though there is the possibility that he may be hit by a car while crossing the street,
‘Prisoner’ actor Patrick McGoohan dies in LA
🙁 :gate:
I loved The Prisoner.
The Prisoner:
Thousands applied for 117 part-time jobs at a new “Kohls” in Aurora. Amongst those applying- an IT systems manager whose company had gone out of buisness, a 72 yr old coming back from retirement when his investments were wiped out and an out-of-work couple who had both lost their jobs and had moved back in with her mother- who is unemployed. Jobs paying $7 to $12 an hr.
OK, John McCain is at the SU-Georgetown game and wearing an orange tie. I want to change my vote….
My mom used to tell us that all the time. 😐
You know pj, a lot of men suffer from color-blindness.
KP- so, how’s the therapy going? :rofl2:
Yes we Khan.
I left this one out there for the Trekkies but…
Ricardo Montalbán has died at 88
🙁 :gate:
Just what we’ve all been waiting for, Sarah Palin and Joe the plumbing correspondent action figures.
http://www.herobuilders.com/08.htm
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Cripes! Do these people have to be encouraged by action figures?? If we ignore them then they will go away!
Whew! Internet at home again. Glad to be rid of the moldy place and happy to report I am living in a mold-free environment. Sinuses took a hit, though. Gigi was coughing and now she isn’t; mold and doggies :no:
Okay, changing the topic of children sledding (my that is a sad story and shouldn’t there be a decent area where kids can go sledding, for chrissakes?), I do think this makes sense for women who think Green.
i prefer this version:
Vern,what size do you use for the imbed? (that doggon turkey emoticon is on speed again.)
Anyone else who can’t stomach the news lately? The current administration’s lies and constant visibility has forced me in to either not watching the tee vee or watching movies. I just can’t take these people anymore. I’m celebrating their exit more than the Obama entrance, quit frankly – even though this is an historic event. I’m just plain exhausted from Bush’s breathtaking incompetence. :billcat:
49er, you know I try not to be too predictable, ergo Devo. Then again, predictable.
Usually 250X210 or 375X315.
I have a funny memory of Johnny Rivers on a riverboat in NOLa. It wouldn’t mean much to anyone who wasn’t there. He was pretty big with the Greeks.
thanks!
well, that sounds intriguing. And no wonder I am intuitively drawn to Mr. Rivers => hey! where is the Greek emoticon? :pirate:
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Oh! Fk, I tried that for a while. It gets nasty, you wouldn’t want to put them in with regular laundry and if you soak them you have to hide them somewhere and if you hide them you may forget about them and then…. :yuck: I gave it up. It would be nice to find biodegradable though.
Sorry guys but this makes up for all the sports talk.
just as long as we don’t start talking about hair where the sun don’t shine. :yuck: :barf:
:banana: :banana: :banana:
There is a new baby blue born today :banana: :dancers: :cake:
I’m a great aunt :alc:
great aunt heron…
Welcome to the club I joined a couple of decades ago.
So I guess I can do this now
Congrats, Heron on your great auntitude!
:knit: Uh oh….gotta :knit: faster!
Thanks v and soupy.
Had my first Dahlia dinner and was waited on by a very good old friend who I didn’t know worked there :pup:
Somedays things just fall into synch in such a lovely way.
I did become a great-aunt about 10 years ago but it is an open adoption and I have not been much in touch.
Love that Dylan.