It was back in 1976, as I recall, when I and the other local Eloi heard the sirens, dropped what we were doing, and dutifully marched off to Manley Field House to be vaccinated (with an air gun, which I thought was pretty cool at the time; do they still use those things?) against the dreaded Swine Flu. :omg: Of course, the Swine Flu scare turned out to be a load of crap. One poor soldier at the erotically named Fort Dix in NJ – David Lewis – did die after contracting the flu (as for what really killed him, I’ll leave that to the Alex Jones types out there), but another 500 or so soldiers were tested and diagnosed with the flu, though they weren’t even symptomatic. Lewis was the only know casualty. So, excuse me if I’m not feeling properly terrified today.
The vaccine? Well, depending on who you believe, that killed hundreds (and made more seriously ill), and was believed to have been responsible for causing a neurological disease known as Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS). In fact, a CDC study claims that the annual flu vaccine everyone’s always trying to shove in your arm carries a one in a million risk of causing GBS. Even without adjusting for the government bullshit factor (which probably brings it down to one in a 100,000 or so), that’s hundreds of cases a year of a really painful illness that can last for months (if not years) – with a 5% or so death rate – all because it “might” prevent the flu (if they guess correctly and the strains don’t mutate – which they tend to do).
Whereas I’m a reasonably healthy individual with a reasonably intact immune system (in spite of my rather bad habits), and I don’t work in NYC high schools (have a nice day at work, Sue! Public health expert Mike Bloomberg says stay home if you feel sick – a genius, that man), I reckon I’ll take my chances. I’ll take a few days of feeling crappy with the flu over a few months of muscle weakness, paralysis, and possible permanent nerve damage. Especially since I haven’t actually gotten the flu in longer than I can remember.
Oh, I know, “I got the flu shot last year and I didn’t get the flu.” Ergo, the flu shot prevented the flu. Yeah, and I keep a lucky coin in my pocket that keeps me from getting attacked by tigers.
B-b-b-b-but it’s the swine flu, and that’s a really scary name. Plus, it’s coming from godless Mexico! And it killed millions in 1918!
Well, actually, it wasn’t the flu virus that killed all those people way back when. It was actually bacteria – bacterial pneumonia, in fact – that did them in.
You should at least feel heartened by the fact that we have “the best health care system in the world.” Assuming you can afford it, and the Governor hasn’t closed your local hospital, of course.
Personally, I think I’ll just stock up on the oil of oregano (well, we already have a little bottle of it, which is about as “stocked up” as we need, since a little dab’ll do ya), and stay the hell away from both people (which I tend to do anyway), and pigs.
It’s supposed to be miserably hot here today (again, but even more so, as we’re supposed to hit 90). I hate to break the news to the dogs, but there’ll be no going to the park today. On the bright side, I have the first of four full days of AJAX and ColdFusion training today (yes, I’ll be able to scrub the sink while generating nearly unlimited amounts of energy at room temperature by Friday), which means I get to hang out at home for an extra hour or so. That’s good, ‘cuz ratfaced Matt Lauer is gonna tell me how to “stay safe” from the dreaded swine flu outbreak.
I guess there just aren’t enough terrorists out there to scare us with these days.
Oh, and Happy Birthday, ma.
I got up, I got dress and I got a call from one of the two teachers I meet with to tell me she has the flu. Swine or bird, she did not say. This is not a confidence builder.
Schools are like petri dishes: they breed germs. And, they very effectively spread them. The kids NEVER wash their hands and they cover their coughs and sneezes after the fact. This is not a confidence builder either.
I used to get the flu every year. It would knock me out for a week and full recovery took at least a second week. Since I’ve been getting the flu shot I have not gotten a full blown case of the flu. Of course, I am a maniac handwasher and devotee of hand sanitizer. But, the flu loves me.
This week I have to give tests to the kiddies. I have to collect their papers and bring them home. How long can the flu virus last on paper? Can’t say any of this is making me feel confident.
The question of who contracts and ultimately dies from this virus has become a matter of central concern in Mexico. And the answers that are beginning to emerge as the death toll rises have been ominous. Relatively young adults, presumably among the population’s most healthy, have been the first to succumb. All 86 people suspected to have died of swine flu in Mexico were ages 25 to 50, said an official at the Health Ministry, speaking on the condition of anonymity.
All the 15 people in Mexico City who died from the virus were 25 to 37 years old, Ebrard said in a radio interview Sunday.
The high proportion of young adults among the fatalities is one of several mysteries about this virus. The same pattern emerged during the 1918-1919 Spanish influenza epidemic, which killed at least 50 million people, and it remains unexplained in that case as well.
One theory is that the virus triggers an excessively aggressive immune response that destroys the throat and lung tissue. Young adults, with the most robust immune systems, may be especially at risk.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30426170/
Good luck, Sue. I am not sure if they should even be having school there for a few days. I guess they are afraid they will start a panic.
That demographic of death is interesting and I do seem to remember one under 50 robust POTUS who was in Mexico City recently.
Buy some Alcoa stock because tin foil sales are guaranteed to rise. :tinfoil: Will O’Bama take a dose of Rumsfeld’s TAMIFLU? :omg:
There was a flu a few years back that they said did not affect people like myself over a certain age because the same flu had been through in our early lives so we were ‘immune’. Maybe that could have something to do with the demo. It could also have something to do with the horrible air pollution in Mexico City.
If schools are petri dishes then so must be planes on one of which I will be in less than 24 hours changing flight with a layover in Dallas. Maybe I’ve watched enough Dick Van Dyke Shows to make me safe. At least they don’t sell those Dealy Plaza postcards there anymore.
So, how did genetic material from pig, bird and human flu combine all by themselves?? :tap:
Good luck Sue. You have quite a viral obstacle course to deal with. 😯
I am guessing Arkansas has something to do with it. :turkey:
btw, Dealey.
Arkansas?
Lonely nights down there for the farm boys. All of the elements are in place.
day 5 of having some kind of flu bug.
yeterday and today i can actually drink stuff! yay!
cough, sneeze and groan. ACK! :billcat:
Glad your up north instead of down south. I hear in Canada ehfluence is one of the side effects.
Hope you start getting better, SJ.
tanks vernon!
i’m going back to bed and my book.
(hack, hack, drip & sneezle)
So, how did genetic material from pig, bird and human flu combine all by themselves??
Comment by Kristapea — April 27, 2009 @ 9:01 am
Damn, I always miss the really good parties.
SJ, feel better. I suppose we old fogies have something nto be grateful for, that is if it’s true that this piggie flu is nicer to us.
I met a lot of paranoid teachers, today. If you’re buying stock, Purell Hand Sanatizer seems like a good bet. There was lots of it in evidence today. There were also lots of sneezing kiddies, but it’s allergy season, so that may be the reason.
Planes, Vern, are excellent spreaders of disease. Especially as there is no fresh air. Perhaps you could wear a mask. If nothing else it might get everyone to move away from you and give you lots of leg room.
Here’s DK’s “Sunday Loon Watch” :
Amazing show on the BBC right now. Their show, World Have Your Sayis in Mexico City, originally to cover the drug trade but of course now they are covering the flu epidemic. They say there are 2000 reported cases and over 140 dead. Just before they went on the air there was a 6.0 earthquake there.
They have to do the show outside with only 4 guests at a time sitting 2 meters apart.
:joe: Here’s to your quick recovery SJ!
As The Nation’s John Nichols points out, not only did Collins kill off the $900 million pandemic preparedness proposal–a budgetary execution called for by that well-regarded public health expert Karl Rove–Collins even brags on her Senate website about blocking passage of the pandemic preparedness initiative.
But Collins said she was concerned about pandemic preparedness. So, one might assume, she’s been using her bully pulpit as the ranking member on the Homeland Security committee to rally support for pandemic preparedness, right? Surely a Google News search of “Susan Collins” + pandemic will turn up lots of articles and press releases, right?
For the folks back home, she sent out a press release touting money she secured for Maine for homeland security efforts, including–yup, you guessed it–“to deal with looming threats such as a pandemic disease.”
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/4/27/724835/-Collins,-Republicans,-Killed-Off-Enhanced-Pandemic-Preparedness-
I got some kind of flu a few months after having a flu shot for several years in a row. I stopped taking flu shots three years ago and have been healthy ever since- this is after reading that whatever was in the flu shots wouldn’t have prevented whatever the flu du jour was in the following months.
The husband of the CIA agent outed by the Bush Administration in the wake of the Iraq war demanded Monday that former Vice President Cheney release transcripts of his testimony in the CIA leak case after Cheney publicly called for more documents to be declassified in the war on terror.
http://rawstory.com/08/blog/2009/04/27/cheney-should-release-iraq-memos-outed-cia-agents-husband-says/
Wat to go Ambassador Wilson!
Writing in a column in the Wall Street Journal in February, Rove attacked Democrats for what he dubbed as reckless spending — stimulus money being doled out to industries “that added jobs last year.â€
Among them? Education and healthcare.
What nefarious programs were Democrats trying to insert? Among other things, Rove cited $900 million for “pandemic flu preparations.â€\
http://rawstory.com/08/blog/2009/04/27/rove-mocked-spending-on-flu-preparedness/
Aw! These guys just don’t get a break. Jindall mocks volcano monitoring and one in his rival’s state starts erupting, Rove mocks flu preparedness and the swine get him. There may be something to this karma stuff.
The local news says the only cases of swine flu in NYC are confined to one Catholic high school, in Queens, though more cases ( all associated with that school) are being reported.
More than ever, America’s atheists are linking up and speaking out
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They are connecting on the Internet, holding meet-ups in bars, advertising on billboards and buses, volunteering at food pantries and picking up roadside trash, earning atheist groups recognition on adopt-a-highway signs.
They liken their strategy to that of the gay-rights movement, which lifted off when closeted members of a scorned minority decided to go public.
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Polls show that the ranks of atheists are growing. The American Religious Identification Survey, a major study released last month, found that those who claimed “no religion†were the only demographic group that grew in all 50 states in the last 18 years.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/27/us/27atheist.html?_r=1&ref=todayspaper
We’re here, we’re atheistic, get, um…realistic!
http://www.churchofreality.org :tongue:
I get a batch of Vicks “First Defence” whenever I am in England.
Micro-gel nasal spray. It supposedly traps microbes in your sinuses. I use it whenever I feel a headache coming on or before I board a plane. It seems to work for me.
Swine-flu outbreak could be linked to Smithfield factory farms
…Is Smithfield Foods, the world’s largest pork packer and hog producer, linked to the outbreak? Smithfield operates massive hog-raising operations Perote, Mexico, in the state of Vera Cruz, where the outbreak originated.
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feel better sj
keep washing hands, sp
funny one, Kev
I remember getting that swine flu shot back in the day. It was at the Springfield Mall and the operation was run by the feds I think. Anyway I was told it was just like Sar Trek, except on Star Trek it doesn’t hurt like hell.
Aren’t non-believers the largest minority now?
according to a study from The Ohio State University, which proves, with math and stuff, that lots of conservatives seem to not understand the intrinsic, underlying joke of The Colbert Report:
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…there was no significant difference between the groups in thinking Colbert was funny, but conservatives were more likely to report that Colbert only pretends to be joking and genuinely meant what he said while liberals were more likely to report that Colbert used satire and was not serious when offering political statements.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/27/colbert-study-conservativ_n_191899.html
It’s true. They are stupid.