Sorry, no updates on who’s on the bobbleheads today, but hopefully they’ll have at least a few people on to say how Stephen Colbert just wasn’t funny last week, and even if he was, he shouldn’t have been so mean to dubya, ‘cuz he’s a very delicate little man (don’t let the swagger fool ya). Or Mary Matalin. Seeing her sour puss on the tube is always a great way to start your Sunday morning. It’s hard to figure out which of those two got the worst deal in that marriage. I hope like hell the kids didn’t inherit their looks from either one of them. Not that I’m one to talk. Anyhow, have a good Sunday. I hope to be back in time to catch the Sporanos (if not sooner).
Thanks PJ, enjoy the rest of your Sunday!
Thanks to jorogo on May 7, 2006 – 2:21am. on Maron’s blog I just watched and listened to the great Miles Davis and John Coltrane (and others) on John Amato’s blog:
I’m impressed!
Regarding the woman on Colbert video, didn’t she strike you as maybe intellectually limited, in all seriousness? When she used the word nookie she told Stephen he would have to bleep that. And, when he said, we already did (or something to that effect), she said I knew you would have to!! :rofl2:
I loved this post from Maron’s blog:
Now, what I want to know farmerkat is, are you from the mean-ass south georgia sandhills?
:rofl2:
Actually, I would like to try making johnny cake. Sounds like the perfect recipe for me.
Well, I think I’m already blogged out! :peace:
Good morning philosopher kings and queens :joe:
I have an update on the TV politico scene today for those who are interested: (Kudos to Al at Daily Kos, I copied)
On This Week: Howard Dean, Tom DeLay, Diane Feinstein and Saxby Chambliss re: Porter Goss, Katrina Vanden Heuvel
Face the Nation (you may want to vomit before watching this one) John McCain and David Brooks (on Iraq’s tourism).
So I don’t know if any of you watch these things, but occasionally I like to see what the latest BS is. I hope i don’t want to destroy my TV the way I did last week.
CNN: Pat Roberts vs. Jane Harman , Mike Leavitt (HHS),Dr. Mowaffak al-Rubaie, Iraq’s national security adviser
Meet the Press: Nancy Pelosi, Washington Post’s Dan Balz and NY Times writer Todd Purdum
On Air America’s “Politically Direct,” Norman Lear on the Colbert performance
Thanks for the round-up, Susan.
Why is the prez’s approval as high as it is? How can we wake the 32%?
You’re welcome, I’m sure PJ wouldn’t mind me doing it since he’s busy.
I don’t know if the 32% want to be woken up…although some of them might if we drop a bomb on Iran? Even then, I don’t know, they might cheer that too.
Um, I just had to edit what ever it was that I threw down. Later sheeple!:fist:
:yuck:Green eggs and ham
Well, King Kong, if you want a snapshot of who still supports the President read these comments people made at Oklahoma State University where Bush delivered the commencement address yesterday. Now, before you make snide comments about all people from Oklahoma, remember I am a graduate of OSU. I was a liberal back 40 years ago, too. BTW, they had about 500 protesters at the event. I wouldn’t be surprised if my sisters who have 3 children at OSU were there. I don’t want to know about it if they were. :yuck:
If I had been there I would have been holding up a sign that says Bush Kills Babies!! with pictures of dead and mutilated Iraqi children.
It’s going to be a moment in my life I’m going to tell people about for the rest of my life,” he said.
Yes, this is the kind of thinking of Bush supporters. I know a few of them. They don’t just “support” him. They look to him like royalty. I haven’t come across that kind of thinking regarding a president in my lifetime before this, really. I understand people thought of Kennedy that way, but I couldn’t tell you.
You know it’s scary type of thought process even if a president is doing good things, which this one isn’t. The president is just an elected representative. Sometimes when I mention that, I get a look from the person like I just busted their perfect little bubble. Certain people don’t WANT an elected representative, they want something they can bow down to. Now why they bow down to him is ANOTHER scary story and a whole ‘nutha thing.
Wow, those comments are scarey. I hope there’s at least a couple of people that disrupt the ceremony. Maybe Code Pink needs to go to this commencement ceremony 😉
Good Morning! :joe:
I think my Dad is part of the 32%. He’s just an angry white guy who’s been whipped up by people like Limpprick. When I was growing up, I don’t recall my Dad ever using the word nigger. But after I was in my 20’s he started using it. I don’t know if he avoided using it around us kids when we were little or if he just decided he didn’t want to be PC anymore. But I think shitheads like Rush made people like my Dad feel okay about being racist. My Dad is one of those who have made comments about just getting rid of all the Muslims. He thinks they are all terrorists and he seems to have bad dealings with Arabic types. I think it’s because he goes into it with a bad attitude. People can sense that sort of thing. Although, I have to give him credit for scoffing at O’Really.
So, the computer guy came over yesterday because I have been low on space in my C drive and I haven’t been able to defrag or do updates. I tried uninstalling things etc. Well, it turns out whoever set up my computer put C drive at 7 GB and the D drive at 25 GB. So he switched that and now I have room to breath :nod: I’m glad I finally called someone, I would have never figured that out.
Yeah, people like Rush make it easier for people to hate because he feeds into their fears and gives them the “ok” signal. I just wish there were ways of channeling people’s fears in different, more productive directions. What a shame. I guess politics must be a off-limit conversation for you and your dad?
I know some young guys in their early 20’s – “the racist libertarian group” I call them who, if not listeners of Rush per se, have picked up that it’s “ok” to be racist and anti-Muslim and general xenophobes and that being tolerant is “PC.” What’s really frightening is that when confronted on their racism they don’t really give coherent reasons, but they seem worked up about their “rights” to be racist. Like they’ve been silenced their whole life or something from saying the “N” word, poor babies.
That’s what conservatives do, and that’s how they get much of their base – they cater to the people who have had rough breaks or are down and out, lost a job, or have had some problem or other, and give them a direction to focus their frustration and tell them it’s ok to hate.
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Yeah, Krista, sometimes it’s better just to call an expert when it comes to computers. I know when something goes wrong and I fiddle too much with things I just make matters worse. Glad you got a fix 🙂
Exactly, Susan, you’re spot on. I need to get over my childhood fear of my Dad(not that he was all that fearsome)and be more outspoken. I have gotten to the point where I can at least stand my ground. Now I have to take a more offensive stand. But it’s hard to tell your dad he’s a racist.
I think that’s a great idea. I was thinking if I was with Code Pink I might have the courage to disrupt the ceremony.
Saturday, 06 May 2006
One thing I have noticed in myself and I am sure this is true for most everyone, is that when someone makes me angry, and my natural instinct is to attack. But since we are civilized and don’t physically attack, for the most part, We verbally attack and we usually attack the physical characteristics of the person that made us angry. Like if the dominant characteristic of someone is fat you might attack with “You fat FUCK!” or if someone is black you’ll attack their color and all the stereotypes associated with that.
I guess I was lucky, I sort of have the opposite story with my dad – he was pretty racist (and conservative – a big Nixon and Goldwater guy) when I was a kid. I used to yell at him about it all the time, but I was like that. I’m just blunt, I can’t help it, but that path is not for everybody! You know your own dad best and it’s always a good thing to strive to have a good relationship with him, you know how outspoken you can get and still remain close with him.
I was “daddy’s girl” so theoretically I could say anything. Not that he listened to me, just gave me the “you’ll see, they really ARE all like that” speech.
My dad had life-saving surgery about 20 years ago that totally turned him around – that’s like out of some novel, but it’s true…he rethought life and was a different person and went back to the real liberal roots in my family (I do come from a line of liberals, we are not conservatives) A lot of his conservatism, after all, had come from what happened to New York City in the 60’s under mayors that seemed oblivious to the crime problem here. He just thought liberals had betrayed him. The racism he got from a few bad experiences and overgeneralized from that. But he really changed and even became quite spiritual. Before he passed away last year he was pretty much on the same wavelength as me. He thought George Bush was the worst thing that happened to America, and he was born in the year of the Great Depression, so he’d seen a lot of presidents. He even said he hoped he’d live to see Bush out of office. I miss him so much 🙁
Sorry for going on so much about it
Hey everyone…good morning….
Ive found that the morning shows are more palatable of I run the scooba in the room around the TV while they are on…that way I only catch little parts of what theyre saying.
I just looked up to see Cancer gal and Gay repub together on Chris Matthews for the political part…and I looked back down. Now we’re seemingly on to the religious/divinci segment of our show….
Of course, Ive only seen the Bush twins…no Colber on the Funny Pages of snuffleupagus…
One thing I have noticed in myself and I am sure this is true for most everyone, is that when someone makes me angry, and my natural instinct is to attack. But since we are civilized and don’t physically attack, for the most part, We verbally attack and we usually attack the physical characteristics of the person that made us angry. Like if the dominant characteristic of someone is fat you might attack with “You fat FUCK!” or if someone is black you’ll attack their color and all the stereotypes associated with that.
Very true…as a society we’re very tuned in to physical characteristics, and a lot of racism focuses on that. Although I think real racism goes beyond that. People just want a target, and if everybody suddenly looked exactly the same one day – say everybody was white and and blonde (yes I know, how creepy!) we’d find a different basis to hate some group or other. 🙁
Well, I didn’t grow up with my Dad around, so there are a lot of things we never went through. Like, if I had lived with my Dad as a teenager we would have butted heads for sure. The kinds of things fathers and daughters work out during those years of breaking away from your parents. I still feel like a little kid around my Dad most of the time. But he has email now so maybe in that way I can try to change his view. I think that the computer can be a great way to talk about potentially emotionally explosive things with loved ones. Like, I might have the rule that all political discourse with family happens online via email or chat.
Isi, do you mind if I copy that Tulsa World comments piece onto ripcoco?
Yes, class is still an issue. Remember the Dr. Seuss cartoon with the star belly’s and the no-star belly’s? It’s like that. I can’t remember the name of that one right now.
Good morning Melina – I just tuning in to Nanci Pelosi and Tim
Sorry about your Dad Susan. I worry about losing my Dad before I get to really know him. He’s always lived across the country for me.
The Sneetches! Dr. Seuss had some great ideas for teaching. “The Butter Battle Book,” published during the Reagan years, dealt with nuclear proliferation.
Well, I didn’t grow up with my Dad around, so there are a lot of things we never went through. Like, if I had lived with my Dad as a teenager we would have butted heads for sure. The kinds of things fathers and daughters work out during those years of breaking away from your parents. I still feel like a little kid around my Dad most of the time. But he has email now so maybe in that way I can try to change his view. I think that the computer can be a great way to talk about potentially emotionally explosive things with loved ones. Like, I might have the rule that all political discourse with family happens online via email or chat.
Maybe you’ve got a shot, then. Sometimes computer talk can be easier than face-to-face…at least he lets you talk to him about these things 🙂
No, I don’t mind Melina. In fact here is a link to the entire article.
Firedoglake on General Hayden
Okay, so I AM DONE with Realplayer! It has screwed with me for the last time. I need to get my shit together about what to use to burn cd’s and edit recordings. I have been just dealing with the commercials during the show because I don’t know if I have software to edit audio. I also need to figure out the whole itunes thing and start exploring music online. I have realplayer, windows media player and something called sonic stage. I tried importing music once and couldn’t so gave up.I probably don’t need all of that.
I’ve been using I-Tunes and I love it…
Bush love fest on Meet the Press – the “fake” Bush (who was at the same performance as Colbert) is talking about what a great sense of humor Bush has and what a neato guy he is. and he and Tim and basically drooling over Bush.
That’s disgusting :barf:
Well, I guess Tim was doing some damage control for the white house by having the anti-colbert on.
Suzie- dont apologize about talking about your Dad at all! I love to hear about this stuff and not only because we are from the same place.
OH GOD…..Timmuh has the other bush twin on…as if he is someone with something to say about the state of things…But then, I guess hes just as good as the real one.
yeah…well….whatever
I found a hoecake recipe. Just 3 ingredients. I love that!
* Exported from MasterCook *
CORNMEAL HOECAKE
Recipe By :
Serving Size : 6 Preparation Time :0:00
Categories : Breads Breakfast
Amount Measure Ingredient — Preparation Method
2 c Sifted corn meal
— Water, cold, to mix
1/2 ts Salt
Mix meal with water sufficient to handle. Let stand a
few minutes to see if more water is needed to spread.
Have a heavy griddle greased and hot, pour on the
mixture and pat out into a round cake, having about
one-half inch thick; reduce fire and let brown, turn
and brown other side. Cook altogether about thirty
minutes. Serve hot with butter.
Mrs. S. R. Dull,
1928
Southern Cooking
Grosset & Dunlap,
New York
Mmm! Thanks Isi, I think I might try that one tonight.:peace:
I just cut a huge post from here because I guess that if I get it together Ill put it on ripcoco, so as not to post looonnnggg…..but the racial thing is so deeply ingrained as to almost be an instinct, and Im not sure how much of it doesnt come from how animals survive and further their own species, and what you need to survive in a certain climate…
It just seems that somewhere in the depths of the brain there is a deep core with some inaccesible information that can influence some people depending on certain conditions.
And then there is the cultural problem of just how we talk about eachother and ourselves and compare ourselves to whatever image is presented as THE image…and as far as fathers go, what is a man told he has to be in order to be a man?…how tough do you have to be? Can you have empathy without being soft?
Whats in style at the time people are raised has some effect too.
And then, who someone is and who their parents are…
I have seen some pretty horrible things come out of some very liberal and empathetic people in times of great stress, and Ive also seen alot of disgusting and horrible things come out of people who have been raised using such things in normal discourse….If you point it out in a place like MT, or Im sure down south, you’ll hear that the people who are being slurred dont really mind it at all because its said all the time and no one ever says anything…huh?
Chief is the local INdian…even when they outnumber you.
N-rigged is the chewing gum and wire holding together the engine on the old wagoneer.
N’s are just the next door neighbor who you see every day (you even watch their kids sometimes) and are no longer afraid of, but you used to be very afraid of all N’s before you met these nice ones….Ugh!
I think that ultimately I feel sorry for people who are conservative, neocon, racist, because its such a hard position and it seems to come from a position of fear….and ties into my ‘Fear of Death as a Driving Force Theory’, which makes sense when you hear how many people have seen the light after a lifesaving experience….or older people who maybe begin to understand the symbiosis of things and have stopped fighting whats happening to them so much, and start to accept whats happening as a part of nature, and so find some empathy for the world and others living in it regarless of their color or religion.
So, who are the 30%? I like Marc’s idea that they are just plain and simple the RETARDS (no offense meant to people who are challenged in any developmental way for whatever reason…this is a different classification for a certain type of person…)
So, will itunes stream TMMS or do I still need windows media player for that?
Isi, does that recipe really rely on sausage or bacon grease or some sorta pig fat?
The recipe just said greased and hot. I will just use canola oil.
I’m gonna use olive oil.
Here’s another hoecake recipe with onions and peppers.
When I use olive oil, it starts smoking. Am I getting the skillet too hot??
Krista, I cant remember if youre using replay A/v or if youre subscribing or if youre getting the torrent…
But PJ sent me to the wavepad
Not the masters edition, bbut the free one…
to edit the shows…and its very easy to use once youve done it once or twice. Im so used to the commercial waves in MR and TMMS that I dont have ot even listen to the sound of the intros or outros…its Rachel thats hard to edit because she is so screechy.
Also its very easy to import the saved files into itunes and onto an ipod or play on your computer
I like itunes alot….
Its also tied into Pandora.com , which I love and so many other popular programs…so, as with Amazon, if there is a cut that youreinterested in, you will likely be referred to itunes for information or to buy the cut or TV show anyway.
I hate Real player…it has mucked me up alot too and its always trying to set itself as primary even though I dont want it!
I don’t know how to get Marc Maron on I-Tunes…I meant that I Tunes is great for burning discs. Maybe somebody else knows how to get a particular radio stream on it that isn’t already listed? I’ve been using windows media player from the KTLK website. I don’t even have Real Player, I don’t think it’s available for a Mac.
isi- I have a feeling that for that real down home taste you gotta go out back and butcher a pig…or at least go down to the stop and shop and buy a block of pig fat….eeekkkkkk!
But, still it sounds good….I need to eat something…yogurt or tofu
Better than squirrel dumplings with sausage gravy that my son’s father so findly remembered from his youth…
Yes, an Oklahoman…but one of those other ones…maybe the 30% if my politics have rubbed off him by now.
think that ultimately I feel sorry for people who are conservative, neocon, racist, because its such a hard position and it seems to come from a position of fear….and ties into my ‘Fear of Death as a Driving Force Theory’, which makes sense when you hear how many people have seen the light after a lifesaving experience….or older people who maybe begin to understand the symbiosis of things and have stopped fighting whats happening to them so much, and start to accept whats happening as a part of nature, and so find some empathy for the world and others living in it regarless of their color or religion.
“Fear of Death” I have considered that this is a driving force for a lot of other fears (which lead to hatred). Don’t know how to fight that, though. Our culture does not prepare us for death in better ways. Some older people becoming accepting, some just feel crabbier toward everyone.
My dad wasn’t exactly old when he went through this, more middle-aged. But he basically told me he just felt he had been given a second chance, and he didn’t want to screw it up. And that so many people while he was sick reached out to him with so much love that he wanted to give some of it back to the world in general. I’m so proud of him.
sunday ramblings:
Isi, you’ve had me in stitches today – A HOECAKE? :rofl2:
mean-ass South Georgia sandhills
I live in the mean-ass West Georgia Clay region (bright orange clay dirt…..my donkey often looks like an orange popsicle!)
btw, frank rich was great today (as always) and the NYT editorial on intelligence is also good. melina, maybe you can post those on your web page??
rainy sunday in georgia
isi, i was just told by the OU dude that, “once an Aggie always an Aggie!” (course, what does that say about the Sooner man?)
PPS i’m looking for the Johnny Cake recipe!
kristapea, my pop is an angry white man, too, and much of what you said is true for him. If you talk to my pop, he’s pro-choice and is really a dem by issues. But the talk radio hate machine has so made him the quintessential angry white man.
Who is listening to the Tyger Thom rerun?:omg:
Rebate time
bye for now!
I see that we are discussing father issues this morning–it is still very morning here. Let’s see…I stopped communicating with my father a few years ago. Why? I won’t bore you with my stories… there are quite likely similar to those of many of you out there. Shall we just say, he caused a lot of damage and has not seen the light. AND NEVER WILL!
:fu: you selfish, self-centered prick.
I”m trying to get that stream now… slow-ass computer connection today 👿
oh, about that idiot woman on Colbert….I think it was all fake, innocent language talk…i later may look her book up on amazon and write a little blurb, hummmmm :jerk:
Well I wouldn’t be bored with any story you told! But I’m sorry, I guess there’s always hope for him changing 🙁 but in the mean time I can imagine that it must have been frustrating dealing with him
Scrubbing soap scum!:omg:
OK…Ive got to get moving if Im gonna get these boys ready for our trip to Baltimore next weekend (Im taking Will and his friend Ben to the Games Workshop Gamesday)…and get mom to the station and get to the bird store….
and Im part way through around 5 tabe…but what Ill do is put Rich up on ripcoco, even though I havent read him (hes always good anyway)…and then come back to the rest of the tabes later on…
and My space, which hilariously ,has this grade your teacher feature which has on it a professor that I went out with (and I took his classes and worked on his 2nd doctorate too,) a couple of years ago… but it occured to me to grade him in bed…hehhehheh….but then I realized that it was just TOO MEAN…and might make him want to get back in touch with me…or not…because I dont have much good to say about him in that area…though he is one of the more brilliant people intellectually that I have known….still, sometimes brains are not everything;-)
I am a suck pup sometimes….
But you will want to get paid to listen to my drivel.
ok, I’ll catch you later Melina! Thanks for chatting this morning.
It would be a big waste of time trying to change him. I am ready to tell him the truth, though, if I ever run into him again. He wouldn’t hear it though. Or I would be blamed. Anyway, I am working through things; he is not involved.
Unless you told me YOU w ere a conservative, I would be interested in the story.But if you were a conservative this would be the bizzaro world, and I would probably be Ann Coulter tje crack-hoe . So tell me, tell me anything you want 🙂
Oh shit! I killed the blog!:omg:
Hey! That would be goddamn interesting if I told you I was a conservative, now wouldn’t it?
Then I’ll revive by giving it a hit :bong:
Yeah, like I’d believe you. :nod:
:40::omg:
What do the corporations pay?:fu:
Hey! I am a COINTELPRO agent. Trying to bust the thought criminal from Colorado.
Ooo goodie, can you read my mind? I’m a thought criminal, bust me.
I am analyzing the writings on this blog. ###@%$bmz*8788inc!
PhD in economics don’t mean crap. Enablers for criminals. This guy is an apologist for the capitalist pigs.:omg:
hmmm, ok, I guess I contributed to the general ####@@$@#$@#$-ishness of it because I was quite prolific this morning 😮
What’s this about the Brooklyn Navy Yards?
Economics can still be twisted by idealogy, so yeah
Navy yards? Yo no se
Mainstream economics is thick with ideology. Very small group of like-minded people making the major economic decisions.
And obvously we know which political system most of these economists favor
…SICK pup…..heh ..
cnick, I didnt mean anything by it….
Hey, where has cnick been, btw?
The IMF never recovered from the Asian financial crisis in 1997, according to former IMF and World Bank official, Dennis de Tray, vice president of the Center for Global Development. “It lost its legitimacy then,” he said at a lunch forum sponsored by the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. Since the crisis, key Asian countries such as Thailand, Philippines, China, and India have refrained from new borrowings from the IMF, mindful of the consequences of disastrous financial liberalization programs that many Asian countries adopted at the behest of the Fund in the early 1990’s.
To the Asian countries’ reluctance to get into more debt with the Fund has now been added a conspicuous move among Latin American countries, led by Brazil and Argentina, to completely pay off their debts to the IMF in order to declare independence from an institution that is much hated in the region.
Main$tream economists tend to believe that neoliberal policies will lead to prosperity and democracy–sooner or later. “When we are dead,” was J.M. Keynes’s response to the economic liberals of his day.
Sounds like a fun thing to wait for
Central Valley will all be houses and highways. Thanks to people like Rick Pombo.
:fu:
(Western myths aside, the Pombo family didn’t make their fortune selling milk from their small herd of dairy cows. They got rich by buying up ranchlands and subdividing them into ranchettes for Bay Area commuters. As a member of congress, Pombo pushed for freeway projects that caused the value of properties owned by his family to soar.
Some thought that young Richard might get a job selling real estate for his uncle, who owned one of the largest brokerages in the Central Valley. But Pombo never passed the real estate exam. Jeffrey St. Clair)
I am not waiting around. :omg:
development…the Hudson Valley is also turning into a huge metropolis extension
Cars. Cars. Cars. Freeways…..:omg:
and don’t forget K-Marts and chain stores everywhere. Nobody can go into business for themselves anymore because of these chain megastores. They killed my favorite neighborhood in the whole world, Greenwich Village.
:knit2::banana:Good morning, evening, afternoon as applies. It’s a grey day here in PDX. Now to catch up.
isi. olive oil has a low burn temp so add another fat to it. I use butter which also has a low burn temp, but together they work well.
Kristapea, I feel your computer pain. When I have the will power I send the computer to timeout. Worked last week when I lost my internet. When I went back to it, all was well.
There is RealPlayer for Mac. The RP honcho is a big supporter of AAR.
Re the woman on Colbert, I was wondering if she wasn’t doing a bit of a Colbert herself, at least exaggerating her position,
FK thx I’m doing ok but when the weather was lovely last week I got a bit stir crazy. When I could arrange to get out, the weather turned grey and ugly
John M. Keynes
In the General Theory Keynes comprehensively challenged the Classical orthodoxy. He argued that a slump was not a long-run phenomenon that we should all get depressed about and leave the markets to sort out. A slump was simply a short-run problem stemming from a lack of demand. If the private sector was not prepared to spend to boost demand, the government should instead. It could do this by running a budget deficit. When times were good again and the private sector was spending again, the government could trim its spending and pay off the debts they accumulated in the slump. The idea, according to Keynes, should be to balance your budget in the medium term, but not in the short run.
One of his best known quotes summarises this focus on short-run policies:
‘In the long-run we are all dead’
:omg:
That’s progress.
OK, I remembered finally to put Frank Rich up…and I loaded the laundry;-)
I know one of Jane Goodall’s camera technicians.
not balancing budget in the short term…yep, sounds like the mess we’re in now.
yay Frank Rich!
The problem we are in stems from the fact that it is the military, weapons programs that get the “boost” from the government. Military keynesianism keeps the messy population out of the equation.
“Meet the new boss! Same as the old boss!” (switched to music for a few minutes)
2 users on line.:omg:
I watched
Quadropheniafor the first time last night. I have listened to the album and soundtrack for ages; never watched the film.Extreme Militarization of the government, one of the signs of emerging fascism. Along with merging of corporate and executive branch, controlled mass media, obsession with national security, and lots of other things we’re now seeing
What did you think? I liked it, though the accents were a bit thick, had to actually watch it twice to really understand everything that was said
We still have free speech. Corporations do not want to give that up. The military still accepts its subordination to civillian rule–unlike places like Pakistan and Turkey.
Technically, the New Deal was fascist. Several AAR hosts do a good job of defining fascism: the melding of big business and big government. A union(!) comprised to kill popular movements. I will pull some clarifying quotes from Chomsky.
Really good op-ed by Markos in the Washington Post today. Here are a few sentences:
Hillary Clinton: Too Much of a Clinton Democrat?
True, thick accents. But I dug it as a cinematic work. Besides, I know the story so well; having listened to the albums for decades. My first copy was when I put a microphone to headphones and recorded it off of a radio show. The show played classic albums “of the week.”
Hillary does not want to generate another “crisis of democracy”.
LOL, I used to tape albums like that sometimes. Yep, great story and done very well. Much better than what they did cinematically with “Tommy” I’m going to have to get it on DVD, I haven’t actually watched it in years.
Markos seems to be writing claptrap.
Gah, Hillary. I still want to go up to Chapaqua and throw stones at her window. She lives about 10 miles from here. What is she talking about now?
hmm, maybe shouldn’t have said that about Hillary, men in black coats are knocking on my door…:omg:
Yes.
Tommyseemed like a string of cool music videos. Or a filmed opera. Great Music, though.I love everything the Who did. Even “Who by Numbers,” the whole catalogue of their records. The rock opera was such a great concept.
Hillary! What a carpetbagger.
I have most of their albums. I rarely listen to the ones after Quadrophenia. I like Townshend’s solo projects.
nickirose, thx for the postings re jefferson (yesterday), the imf, and keynes (today). 🙂
David Bender! What happened to the union show?
Little Steven maintains that the Who’s first album is their best album.
yeah, he does post some interesting stuff. I’m getting quite an education on this blog… 💡
I still love “Meaty Beaty Big and bouncy” and “Who’s Next” holds up even though it’s played so much. I think Quadrophenia is my favorite, though
Live at Leeds: Awesome 🙂
Barsamian: You view corporations as being incompatible with democracy, and you say that if we apply the concepts that are used in political analysis, corporations are fascist. That’s a highly charged term. What do you mean?
Chomsky: I mean fascism pretty much in the traditional sense. So when a rather mainstream person like Robert Skidelsky, the biographer of [British economist John Maynard] Keynes, describes the early postwar systems as modeled on fascism, he simply means a system in which the state integrates labor and capital under the control of the corporate structure.
That’s what a fascist system traditionally was. It can vary in the way it works, but the ideal state that it aims at is absolutist — top-down control with the public essentially following orders.
Fascism is a term from the political domain, so it doesn’t apply strictly to corporations, but if you look at them, power goes strictly top-down, from the board of directors to managers to lower managers and ultimately to the people on the shop floor, typists, etc. There’s no flow of power or planning from the bottom up. Ultimate power resides in the hands of investors, owners, banks, etc.
People can disrupt, make suggestions, but the same is true of a slave society. People who aren’t owners and investors have nothing much to say about it. They can choose to rent their labor to the corporation, or to purchase the commodities or services that it produces, or to find a place in the chain of command, but that’s it. That’s the totality of their control over the corporation.
That’s something of an exaggeration, because corporations are subject to some legal requirements and there is some limited degree of public control. There are taxes and so on. But corporations are more totalitarian than most institutions we call totalitarian in the political arena.
What are we listening to?
I was listening to Jandek’s second album. Now I am listening to “Ambrosian Chant”.
Little Steven says that
Who's Next(and Exile on Main St.) was the last great album of the first Garage Rock era.Killed it again!:omg:
I was listening to “Who’s Next,” but it’s just about ending. Not sure what I’m going to play next. I think I have the Who back to back with the Stones, their recent greatest hits collection but I’ll see in a moment :nod:
“Street Fighting Man,” yup. Garage rock was so cool
yay chomsky. i always learn something.
Oklahoma wasn’t always so RightWing:
There were genuine, unequivocably liberal Jeffersonians in positions of lesser power during these years. Today, they are obscure figures but they are worth noting to establish that there was an alternative, albeit much-weakened, tradition within the middle ranks of the party. During the New Deal and Fair Deal years, there were Governors William Murray (OK) and Charles Bryan (NE), Senators Thomas Gore (OK), Burton Wheeler (MT), David Walsh (MA), Bennett Champ Clark (MO), Edwin Johnson (CO), and Glen Taylor (ID), and Congressman Jerry Voorhis (CA). Novelist Gore Vidal is the namesake and grandson of Senator Gore, who began his career as a Texas Populist, became a supporter of Bryan in Oklahoma, and ended up on FDR’s enemies list.
Jeff Taylor
Politically charged Garage Rock. That song got banned here.
Chuck D is so goddamned savvy.
There were no huge corporations like there are now when this country was being planned, isn’t that true? I mean the really really BIG corporations. So they couldn’t have taken that into consideration when balancing branches of government. It’s something I’ve thought about. Though I’m sure they might have let the corporations have their power anyway to a point, since corporations are all about wealth, and so were most of the founding fathers.
One indication of how poorly we understand our political system is that we celebrate the concept of checks and balances as a hallmark of democracy. It is not. Checks and balances limit public power (the government), especially the power of the people, and thereby expands private power (owners of productive property and capital) which is left largely unaccountable to the public. It is, if anything, a hallmark of the lack of democracy and reflects the Framers’ admiration of Great Britain and their identification with imperial thinking. The Framers set for themselves the task of designing an imperial system that would be legitimized by the consent of the governed. In the context of eighteenth-century thinking, consent of the governed included constitutional monarchy where the monarch’s powers were limited and where the government included an assembly elected by the people. But any influence in the government by common or “inferior” people raised the possibility that the poor could challenge the rich, public power could be used to challenge private power…
(Toward an American Revolution)
Gimme Shelter 🙂 Oh man, how I love this song.
Wow, that’s somewhat of a revelation to me…(about checks and balances). I see I have a lot of reading to do
The war on contraceptives in the NYTimes Magazine
I guess that means after a wife is past child bearing age she and her husband have to stop having sex.
http://www.nytimes.com/pages/magazine/index.html
In order to prevent common people from having an equal say in public affairs and to safeguard private power in general by limiting public power, the Framers chose to discard the arrangement under the Articles of Confederation where the important powers of government were vested in a single legislature and resurrect England’s aristocratic system of “checks and balances.” The purpose of checks and balances was this: public power would be “checked,” especially the House of Representatives which was closest to the people. Moreover, the House of Representatives would be “balanced” by the interests of property by giving property owners a greater voice in two ways: 1) the Presidency and the Senate would be elected directly by property owners through the electoral college and state legislatures respectively, and 2) the Presidency and the Senate would be given more power than the House in the government. John Adams, who once stated, “We have been told that our struggle has loosened the bonds of government everywhere; that children and apprentices were disobedient; that schools and colleges were grown turbulent; that Indians slighted their guardians, and negroes grew more insolent to their masters,”[…]
I met Mick Taylor once. He played a show in Olympia; I had record store connections.
A theme which I shall draw out in this chapter is that far from being a government of “the people,” ours is a government which rests on the assumption that “the people,” especially when they become politically excited, interested, and alive, are thought of as subversive. Any serious student of political surveillance and repression in this country knows this to be true.1 But we seem to prefer to protect our moral high-mindedness by permitting elites, virtually at every chance they get, to persist in the lie that it is “we the people,” and not “we the largest property owners,” who govern this country. In so doing we risk weakening our understanding of the ways in which our lives are systemically made subordinate to the interests of the rich and politically powerful. And in so doing, we invite our own destruction. . .
http://cyberjournal.org/authors/fresia/c4.shtml
Sexual union in marriage ought to be a complete giving of each spouse to the other, and when fertility (or potential fertility) is deliberately excluded from that giving I am convinced that something valuable is lost.
According to the two religions that have influenced me the most in my life, Paganism and Judaism, sex is not only NOT just about fertility, but sexual union is a way of actually connecting to deity. It’s a way of becoming close to your partner and the intimacy between two people is considered sacred. So the whole “sex must be for reproduction” meme, especially in this day and age where we’re not exactly in want of a growing population, and for the nerve of these people to define what sex is and what should be FOR US because we can’t do it ourselves, is so outragous that I feel like punching something. So fucking ignorant and they’re making decisions for myself and other women. Fuck them :fu:
Really good stuff Nicki,I’m cutting and pasting it and saving it.
:omg:
Yup. Shekinah as the female complement of the male deity. The Goddess. Some of that other stuff about Satan seems a little obscure to me, though. What’s the source?
Why is it that I can no longer access the AAR blogs? Is it because I have not signed up for the “premium” stuff?
I cut-and-pasted. (I am not up on all of that stuff.)
Aya Sophia! (Now that’s a mosque!)
I can access Marc’s blog…and I’m not a premium member. What happens, you don’t get to log in?
Hoecake? Is that what Sean had over the weekend? 😀
Sorry to post and run, but the game is starting and LeBron calls. Later maybe.
:nixon:
I can access the Maronite Church’s blog; its the other ones that get skeletor on me. Been that way for a while.
I’ll try some of the other blogs, then…let’s see if they let me in.
so true.
well said. :fist:
SEXUAL INTERCOURSE ..:rofl2:
sean’s a no-show. promises promises.
well it’s letting me post at Rachel’s blog (I don’t know what to say so I won’t!. Hehe, ok)
Hmmm. Well that’s pretty severe. Sucks, in fact, remind me not to take Halacha too seriously
hehe. He said “intercourse” :banana:
I’m a slut by Jewish orthodox standards. let’s just put it that way. Ok, Suzie, close your mouth now :omg:
nickirose, who are you quoting in that text about gentiles and horses and issue and adultery and jews? that is heavy duty. wow. a capital offense for the jewish woman and her lover. some version of that is just what the neocons would probably like our laws to be. the ultimate police state. why stop at marijuana and drugs and political expression.
Of course by pagan standards I’m just doing what the Goddess wants of me, so is it any wonder I lean closer to THAT religion? Hehe. :smile::smile::smile:
Fundamentalism sucks, no matter which gang is behind it.:omg:
nickyrose, what happened to your #153 post, the text has disappeared, only the first two words remain! :?::?:
SEXUAL INTERCOURSE between a Jewish woman and any man other than her husband is a capital offense for both parties!
Come and get me, you thugs!
:rofl2::rofl2: I pack a mean piece.
Right on :fist:
The Thought Police confiscated it–for evidence.
:omg::omg::omg: I’m dead also…
…and may be even more dead as I further comit crimes, who knows…
whew, i thought i had hallucinated the text about horses and gentiles and jews. :doh::paranoid:
LOL I’m planning crimes. I’m so bad.
:omg::nixon:
boy, you have to be here right on the spot, in the moment, otherwise you miss some pretty exciting stuff, the thought police are very quick to obliterate it, had no idea that was a problem on this blog.
but of course. Men get a slap on the wrist but women are the really evil ones, because we’re just property and how dare we be so hot.
Slap me, baby!:omg:
Yes. :nod:
when you’re in a police state, you can do just about any old ordinary thing and it’s a crime somewhere in their books. i guess the plus side is that it makes it easy for us to plan a crime and to be bad. :hubba:
I am for
Rule Breaking Erotics!What is the religion of the world? Health, wealth and progeny. Its immaterial what name the god is invoked for such ends. That’s the religion all over the world, in various cultural ornamentations.
Special fonts about erotic topics get me hot.
Special fonts about erotic topics get me hot.
Comment by Susan Joy
:spank:
LOL emos about spanking get me…alRIGHT I’ll stop 😮
Turn me on!:omg:
Hehe, I scared everybody away? Come back, I’ll behave :rofl2:
Heat me up!
:rofl2:
Stop apologizing for getting
Turned onby certain emos.Hehe. Oh man, I turned on a switch here. :nod:
hey let’s party
:banana::hubba::alc::bong::rofl2::banana::tongue:
Nicki Nicki, hehe
Emoticons turn you people on??
Wow, I must be getting old!
:billcat:
I’m down for that.
:jesus::rabbi::no::ear::sheep::sheep::priest:
There!
:no::no::omg:
Wow. I go away for a half of basketball, and everyone gets Erotic City. Horses and gentiles and Jews, oh my. 🙂
Suzie, I feel like I should take another shower after reading some of that stuff.:hubba:
Who’s a switch?:omg:
oh MAN. Just get rid of the religious ones. Those are killing the mood. Especailly after the Jewish adultery thing!
thx nicki, i was getting a little out of control there.
i’ll settle down now. :knit:
Here’s some Coltrane and Monk for the party!
It would be nice to have a musically inspired emoticon. Musical notes?
This place is getting as heated as the Majority Report Blog. (Only we don’t allow freepers here.)
I really do need to behave. Alright, what did everybody think of Meet the press? Soreee.
The goy gets nailed, too.
I’ve never been to the majority report blog, what do they do over there?
pppppppppppppppppppppppp
I see…
what happened, did the blog get closed down because of me???? :omg::eek:
i went over to watch the video of coltrane’s giant steps that isi gave a link to.
oh wow it was terrific. :love:
yes, we need a music emoticon!
:jason:
:tongue:
I like Coltrane. I like Brubeck the best though for jazz
enter fields such as agriculture, crafts, the arts and science.
:omg::sdavid::sdavid::omg:
The Lord loves ya’, Nicky!
He wants ya’ to make a contribution to send 15 kiddies from the Rev’s old stompin’ grounds to that morning hike on the woods that Mark and Marc are talkin’ ’bout.
That way the Lord will make ya’ feel good deep down. ‘Cuz the kiddies need to experience nature — the Lord’s green nature where, if Sammy the Stem Cell shows up he’ll get scarffed down by the ol’ hoot own in a tree. That or one of the ALF protestors will fall out of a tree on him and Sammy will get implanted where the sun don’t shine and the soap don’t go.
The Rev thanks ya’ and will be thinking ’bout you at the Chirch bingo game tonight.
Yours in Faith,
Miss Hazel Pothooks,
Personal assistant to Rev. Chuck
:omg:
you know much more Jewish stuff than I do apprently! All of this is new to me.
BUllShit! You live it; I…
No, I grew up in a secular family. Didn’t know a damn thing about it till I got into paganism of all things, then I studied some kabbalah because it’s very interesting and you can do magickal things with it.
I started hanging around with a jewish group because I got into a kabbalah discussion with this very cool guy, and I do like to learn about new things, so I mad a few friends there. I’ll never make a real “Jew” though except through heritage. It’s just not my way of thinking. But I had to prove that to myself, so I explore.
Anyway, I am just tapping into readily available knowledge.
I meant the Enlightenment.
True…the internet is a good resource.
What! No horses?:omg:
:rofl2:
:spank:
Hehe, so what am I missing in the news? I should check out the radio stream or the blogs or something…
I can’t wait for that video to arrive, btw 🙂
i have to go outside and do a bunch of chores. it’s a beautiful sunny day. blue sky over my head. maybe i’ll take the radio with me and listen to jerry springer. NOT.
the birds are singing. that’s more than enough for me.
that was quite some party.
see ya later.
:jesus::nixon:
What video?
k take care Foggy, enjoy the day! (the sun is starting to go down here! )
um, nothing, I ordered a new copy of Quadrophenia on DVD, yeah, that’s it.
Nobody here!:omg:
😮
::looks everywhere:::
Can you see the Real Me?
Can ya? Can ya?
:omg:
😉 now that’s a CD I didn’t hear today 🙂
A spectre is haunting Europe — the spectre of communism. All the powers of old Europe have entered into a holy alliance to exorcise this spectre: Pope and Tsar, Metternich and Guizot, French Radicals and German police-spies.
:nixon:
hmm, interesting, I forgot to get the mail yesterday and it seems I got something without a return address
The Bible, which is a very interesting and here and there very profound book when considered as one of the oldest surviving manifestations of human wisdom and fancy, expresses this truth very naively in its myth of original sin. Jehovah, who of all the good gods adored by men was certainly the most jealous, the most vain, the most ferocious, the most unjust, the most bloodthirsty, the most despotic, and the most hostile to human dignity and liberty-Jehovah had just created Adam and Eve, to satisfy we know not what caprice; no doubt to while away his time, which must weigh heavy on his hands in his eternal egoistic solitude, or that he might have some new slaves. He generously placed at their disposal the whole earth, with all its fruits and animals, and set but a single limit to this complete enjoyment. He expressly forbade them from touching the fruit of the tree of knowledge. He wished, therefore, that man, destitute of all understanding of himself, should remain an eternal beast, ever on all-fours before the eternal God, his creator and his master. But here steps in Satan, the eternal rebel, the first freethinker and the emancipator of worlds. He makes man ashamed of his bestial ignorance and obedience; he emancipates him, stamps upon his brow the seal of liberty and humanity, in urging him to disobey and eat of the fruit of knowledge.
that’s not usual, it’s probably junk mail
What, pray tell?
Postmark?
omigod, maybe not :omg:
actually no post mark. If I open it will it explode? 🙁
Now you are acting like me.:omg: Inter-cyber virus.
oh what the heck, I’m in a million pieces today anyway, come on U.S. mail, rock my world
No postmark! How much postage is on it?
:rofl2:
:::eyes light up::::
Uh oh! Did you open it? SJ! SJ! :omg:
:love:
I just received a little piece of something special, wow.
You must have opened. No, thought police. I am not going to say it.
I totally love this art. This is wonderful
Enlightened Revelation!:omg:
What Art?
Thank you
sketches inside of this
Sketches? No drawings?:omg:
well the whole thing is art, really. I used to put together a newsletter for a small pagan church. I like making/looking at those things.
yes, beautiful drawings. I call almost everything sketches, sorry
Which page are you on?
I’m reading about Philadelphia right now
Sketchy sketched out!:omg:
are those your drawings?
Oh! The good stuff!:omg:
The sketchy ones are. Mary Magdalene, no.
alright, I’m HOOKED and I didn’t even see the videos or hear the music yet. I think I heard the music in my dreams
I like them very much. You’re so talented
:rofl2:Oh, yeah!:rofl2:
hehe, now I want to go to Philadelphia. AND Portland. What am I ever to do?
Sometimes I cringe at the writing.:omg:
no, it’s good writing. I’m reading it now.
stuff about Marc Maron in here too, yay
um…I didn’t catch this at first…is that my p, p, pict…
:omg:
Nicki!
k?
Rumsfeld! You fucking liar!
I’m honored
Manipulation of data!:omg:
what are you reading/listening to?
Not surprising,
Negroponte is a war criminal. How did he get back into power?
ick, was reading all about that earlier on Josh Marshall’s blog. It’s a real set up
Blog sibs, what’s goin’ down?
Well, I guess not much then, huh? Oh well, I have to go find my secret stash anyway.
What the Fuck? Everybody can’t be sleepin’. It’s only 5:30. Have some :joe:
:mad:Grrr! I’m out.:spank:
I don’t know what to say :bong::40: