What a week or so for the Bushies! First Zarkawi’s rather pristine-looking (considering the half-ton’s worth of bombs supposedly dropped on it) body gets paraded around, then Karl Goebbels, er, I mean, Rove apparently is off the hook for destroying the career of who knows how many CIA operatives, and then dear leader majestically swoops down on Baghdad (too bad they didn’t give him an exciting ride down Route Irish) for a visit. Plus, the Jebster gets to look all exectuive-like, in charge during the firs tropical storm of the season. Is this the beginning of the comeback? Are the sheeple stupid enough to suddenly say, “you know what, everything’s just fucking great afterall?” Beats me, I don’t know. All I do know is that I’ve got 52 days to go. Happy hump day, y’all.
:banana:1 yes i am number 1!!!!!
bah evil kitten killer :no:
The weather geek says it’s supposed to be 100 in Denver today. I hope they get your cooling tower up and running Fred. We might get a little of thay Alberto action here, but it’s supposed to stay fairly cool until the weekend – then hot and shitty.
Plans to build a NAFTA super highway
Quietly but systematically, the Bush Administration is advancing the plan to build a huge NAFTA Super Highway, four football-fields-wide, through the heart of the U.S. along Interstate 35, from the Mexican border at Laredo, Tex., to the Canadian border north of Duluth, Minn. Once complete, the new road will allow containers from the Far East to enter the United States through the Mexican port of Lazaro Cardenas, bypassing the Longshoreman’s Union in the process. The Mexican trucks, without the involvement of the Teamsters Union, will drive on what will be the nation’s most modern highway straight into the heart of America. The Mexican trucks will cross border in FAST lanes, checked only electronically by the new “SENTRI” system. The first customs stop will be a Mexican customs office in Kansas City, their new Smart Port complex, a facility being built for Mexico at a cost of $3 million to the U.S. taxpayers in Kansas City
http://tinyurl.com/hakrn
There were some rethugofools that were trying to build what they were calling super slab down through Colo east of the metro areas along the front range. That was probably part of the bidding for this..That was while we had rethugofools in power in the state legislature I hope the Dems said FORETABOUTIT:eek::yuck:
It was like 94 yesterday and it wasn’t 200 degrees (maybe 104) in my office space so they may have been circulating water with no fans working to cool it in the tower.. Maybe they were running the city water supply through the place and dumping it in the creek. Naw…that would cost money.:yuck::eek:
It was a lovely 79 up there a while ago but its 67 outside so they are probably not still running the fans on manual..
Riley was having trouble coping with the 3 million popular votes that Bush won by given that there were only 350,000 voters disenfranchised in Ohio. RFK didn’t bother to mention the red shift problems in 28 other states. It looks like the fraud may be happening on the local level in other places.. Maybe that’s why thugs have won so many local/state elections since electronic voting has been used..I think our county has used Diebolt GEMS software in its central tabulator since like 1996.
The idea of replacing just one of the three parts of our government with dems is foolish.. Instead of fixing anything we will just have two more years of nothing happening ( that’s better than what the thugs have happening but solves nothing) We don’t know if the dems will move to fix anything either even if they controlled the whole government.. So what do we do if they end up being just like the thugs ?? Thugs are proven crooks and the dems just appear to have taken their place at the trough… what then ??
:gate::omg::jason::fist:
Good morning sheeple. No rain today. Still lots of clouds, but the sun is valiantly trying to peek through. The ground is nice and moist in the wake of Alberto.
In the words of that great social philosopher Dave Grohl, “Done, done, on to the next one.”
:banana::banana::banana:
Jeb didn’t look all that executive-like IMHO. He looked kinda stupid in retrospect, whining about people not listening to him and leaving ASAP, when the storm turned out to be less than anticipated. The people who live on Cedar Key have already made up their minds to either leave or hunker down before he opens his big mouth in the first place.
Maybe next time he can borrow big bro’s codpiece from the flight suit.
:barf:
I dunno. When I think disaster (natural, man made, you name it), I think “Bush.”
The IRAQi’s seem to be wondering why heir dictatordorp came to visit them.. AQ apparently couldn’t get either a reception or a send off organized in time.
Will Bunch: “Incredibly, the Dem insiders think they can just breeze their way to victory in November by only talking about middle-class utopia — even as an 800-pound gorilla named Baghdad is doing the macarena up on stage right behind the podium. And you know, it could work — if the mess in Mesopotamia were just one of a dozen or so things on the minds of voters.” 6/14
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Yes Will ..now will you please repeat that in English ??
Part of the left sided media’s problem is that they think all people who would vote for dems are intellectually capable… Most of the people in manufacturing are more along the lines of slightly elevated neanderthals. (Fred gets out orange, jumps on desk and scratches under his arm pits while jumping up and down):eek::yuck::omg:
Morning Afternoon :yinyang:
pj, Bush has been, pretty much, a life long disaster.
Hey KK how are things in Asia today .. or is it tomorrow ??
What are the Asian markets doing while the Titanic sinks ?? The other day they seemed to be taking it in the ear too.
fred- all’s well, everyone’s getting ready for summer, and who wants to work hard in the summer? It’s hot, the bugs are out, and there are idle students everywhere. Air con is taking care of the heat. There are sprays for the bugs. And, well, students are sent to Summer school.
Taiwan’s market was taking a hit, but the gov dug into it’s deep coffers and started to buy, buy, buy. It’ll slowly sell as it start to go up.
As for other markets, I only know the local farmer’s market. And while it’s the last half of mango season, the lychees this year are ‘a plenty’, but not the sweetest,
KK- every one’s getting ready for summer but they can’t afford to go anywhere, and with no AC who can work hard in the summer? It’s hot, the bugs are out, and there are sparsely clad idle CU students everywhere. Air con isn’t taking care of the heat. There are sprays for the bugs. And, well, sparsely clad students are a most excellent distraction
I hadn’t thought about it but school is out for most of the high schools and colleges so a walking tour of the Foothills mall may be in order.:omg: It should be really popular this pm. It is air conditioned.:shock::lol::eek::omg:
Find the scenery where the scenery is.
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Most of the buildings in the Colorado higher ed system are not airconditoned.. There was seldom any reason for doing that. A lot of the buildings at CU Boulder were built in the 1930’s so they may not be airconditionable.
Hey everyone! Im fighting a horrible headache…woke at 5AM just splitting…and motrin/coffee/whatever are only just sorta working….
Did you all see my new bird?
I need name suggestions……
I saw on FUX “news” that Bush has a huge leap in th epolls…has something changed since the one poll showing 2 points up and one poll showing 2 points down?
I just dont see this as going anywhere.
…and the army is gonna try to go after this guy who sings in the Hadji girl video on youtube…so silly….and as if guys in war dont make up black humor sorts of stuff like this. I dont think that you can call this guy a “bad apple” but watch them try to drum him out!…
I think that the leaders of this wonderful democracy should go and fight on the front lines for a while and then see if they dont make up a few off color songs about killing who they have been told is the “enemy”
I like the idea of top government officials having served in the military…preferably front lines in a war…just so they can know what its like. I think they also should have all been psychoanalyzed thoroughly before begin eligible to run.
good morning, sheeple :sheep:
If Bush actually got a huge leap in the polls its the media that leaping him. It is all lies, everything is a lie. If it was on FAUX news then you have to first assume it was a lie and then be surprised if it was true .. Melina you should know that by now. If what Maddow was just talking about is the way its going to be when we elect dems to government I guess I will have to venture out to freeperville and see what they want for one of those 50 cal assault rifles and vote with it.
It seems like they really wanted to kill him, not capture him. There is even a witness report that when they discovered he was not dead, his US captors beat him and made sure he died of his “wounds.” Whether or not that report is correct, the bombing itself was certainly meant to kill him.
If Zarkawi is who him is… he had out grown his usefulness just like the American consumer and having an American middle class. The ‘they” will let the Russians and the Chinese take care of us. The “they” will have to wait until all the baby boomers spend all their disposable income and then they will finally open the scuttle values and let her go down.
Am I the only one who doesn’t find Kent Jones funny?
Kent Jones is not funny. He wasn’t at the conference with Rachel.. and Rachel was much less silly without him. He must make funny faces at her or something while she is talking or brings a communal bottle to work :40::40: 🙁 :omg:
Now him might also be the guy who climbed that tree at the Urban Farm incident yesterday.. Sounds like something that the LA cops would do. Lets start a rumor that they used a bomb.
After listening to the last 10 minutes of Maddow it had to be the communal bottle :40::40: 🙁 :yuck::eek:
Oh yeah…I hate when she gets “silly.” 😡
Yes, :40: is needed for her show lately…
If these so called left wing talkers are going to tell their audience that voting for Dems in 2006 will only
1, Gain us “maybe” a majority in only one house
2. Make the dems more conservative
3. Elect a bunch of dems that will not prosecute Bush
Then why are we voting at all ?? All they are doing is pandering to the middle, discouraging a lot of progressives and pissing off the rest.:gate::omg::jason::fist:
But Susan, Kent Jones is Lawton Smalls. It may be that Rachel limits what he can do.
Ms always late finally got here and was rolling around on the floor looking over my shoulder at what I was typing.. Ouch….she hit me. Blog with you all later.
or more likely that both Kent Jones and Rachel are limited in what they can do now. No, I didn’t know that.
Rachel needs to get Lizz Winstead out of Connie and Maury-land (what a HORRIBLE show that is) and rehire her now that Goldfuck is gone.
Im listening to her now and its pretty…ugh…
So, did anyone get a show recorded last night. It looks like there was no stream.
Krista- I seem to have it…2 hours anyway and I spot checked and it was there. I have to double check because its called June 13th and I cant remember how they are labeled because they come on at 1AM here….
Damn-My replay shows that it recorded until 3AM this morning but I dont see a show anywhere here…I guess we will have to wait for the torrent…
does anyone on Premium have it?
CU fires Churchill
The panel – made up of nine CU faculty, a staff member and a graduate student – agreed unanimously with an investigative committee’s earlier findings that Churchill “has committed serious, repeated and deliberate research misconduct,” including plagiarism and fabrication of material.
Of the nine members who cast secret ballots, six recommended dismissal. Two said he should be suspended without pay for five years, while one suggested a two-year suspension without pay.
In a 20-page report forwarded to CU’s interim provost and the dean of arts and sciences, committee members said the findings were only exacerbated by Church-ill’s unwillingness to admit wrongdoing.
“We are drawn to the irresistible conclusion that Professor Churchill is unable, or at least unwilling, to acknowledge legitimate critique,” the report states. “If he is unwilling to acknowledge critiques, we are pessimistic that he is likely to change his behavior.”
http://tinyurl.com/emhtf
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That last paragraph was the essence.. You have a professor you can’t control so you fire him
If what he did was so terrible they should fire all of FAUX, and M$NBC news, the NYT, The Wash Post as well as the Bush press office.:fu::fu::fu::omg::mad::rant1:
Okay, this is the first I’ve heard of this . I didn’t see much else on it and it’s on a right wing site so I got myself a very large grain of salt here with me while I read it. Here is the other thing I found on it. “The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America” (SPP) somehow sounds a bit like The Clear Skies Initiative or some of fearless leaders’ other programs that result in the opposite of their title.:paranoid::doh::growl::fustrate:
Sheldon Drobny on KPHX after this break. Call in 1-800-989-1480. http://aaphx.com/
Did you see the Tshirt over ther that says”Imagine…no liberals”
John Lennon rolls in his grave….
The Phoenix effort is being used as a model to get AAR in other cities. Take THAT Ed Schultz!:fu: Bake Sale Radio is grassroots power!
yeah, i saw that and had to :barf:
If you want to be an investor in NovaM Radio check this out. It’s Sheldon Drobny’s venture for liberal radio.
Sheldon Drobny still on Dr. Mike’s show.
Damn, I wish my Home Depot was like this one.
:santacool: Xmas at Home Depot in July! Woo HOO!:banana: When you buy a bathroom vanity you get a brick of weed to help you install it!
:bong:
I’me sure that a lot of things that come in containers to major American retailers are not what is on the waybill. Thats why they don’t want them inspected.:bong::doh::rant1:
The fed just said that inflation was under control .. what was it yesterday so today
May inflation data show big 0.3 percent rise as gasoline prices surge
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/13312533/
The DOW is still up but three hours to go.
Its a lie its all a lie
Its up to 94 already and my make shift thermometer says it is 115 in my office area so we are all down here in the clean room area mostly BSing in the hall.
The good part about that is the urinal did get fixed. The facilities guy said they put the cooling tower fan unit back together and turned it on and they apparently have two phases on the motor reversed in that it was blowing as apposed to sucking.. so we are waiting for the crane to come back or the electrician to come back or management to get off the :crap:er or something.. :knit::knit::knit::knit::shock::yawn:
Ethanol not the fuel of the immediate future
U.S. motorists are grumbling at the increasingly high price for ethanol, a trend the could drive Washington to rethink its protection of the industry.
The price of ethanol, normally 5 cents to 10 cents cheaper than regular gasoline, is now 5 cents more expensive, KELO-TV, Sioux Falls, S.D., reported Tuesday. And that differential is expected to grow as summer driving season advances.
That it’s $2.85 a gallon is ridiculous, it costs a lot of money, said Danielle Sickinger.
http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/?sid=e878cf7de10795e4
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It apparently costs more money to grow switch grass then to pump.. err… buy oil.
I got my water bill Monday I could have also made that observation.
Man, they shoudln’t have to pull the fan to swap the leads. Hell, they can do it at the disconnect, if nothing else. I hope they got everything aligned all nice, or the bearings’ll be shot before long. I had to work on big-ass cooling tower once. Wound up replacing the motor and the gear box, and had to get out the old mic and shim everything up just right. Still working, as far as I know. No crane for us – had to make a ramp and use chainfalls to get everything up in place.
Turning Quibbles Over Footnotes into Academic Felonies
My Trial By Media
By WARD CHURCHILL
Bolder, Colorado.
On February 2, 2005, Colorado Governor Bill Owens called for me to be fired because of statements I made about U.S. foreign policy that were clearly protected by the First Amendment. It would have been illegal to do so then, and it is just as illegal today.
More than 16 months ago Governor Owens informed then-CU President Betsy Hoffman that his office would “work closely with her and the Board of Regents to terminate” me. A few weeks later President Hoffman expressed her fears of a “new McCarthyism” to the Boulder faculty, and a few days later she resigned. Apparently this message was not lost on the remaining CU administrators.
The fact that CU has spent over a year and a great deal of money conducting a sham investigation of “research misconduct” does not convert an otherwise illegal action into a legitimate one. In its determination to fire me, the University has continuously violated its own rules, the Regents’ laws on academic freedom, and the U.S. Constitution’s guarantees of due process and equal protection. As today’s press release illustrates, CU administrators have conducted a “trial by media,” not a confidential personnel investigation. Today’s report is but the latest step in this process.
After encouraging malicious and frivolous allegations to be made, Interim Chancellor DiStefano, as complainant, submitted the resulting media stories as if they were his own allegations of research misconduct. These were then investigated by a committee which, over my objections, was dominated by CU insiders. That committee’s report has now been rubber stamped by the Standing Committee on Research Misconduct (SCRM), and SCRM’s approval will proceed back up the internal hierarchy to Interim Chancellor DiStefano for his approval. . .
The motors on this thing are under the Fan assemblies and so is the AC power feed which apparently has all the motors (3) connected together and goes over to a 200 Hp motor starter/contactor on the side of the unit. There is only about three feet between the bottom of the motor and the coil assembly and I don’t think there is an access door to get in between the two things. It was made by Brown and Root (in 1981) so what do you expect. The facilities guy described it as a bit of a kluge.
I always though Churchill was framed by the Reich which at the time controlled the state legislature .. Bill Owens is the only part of that cabal that is left in power but the legislature under the demodorps is just a little bit better than it was under the Reich. The rethug legislature succeeded in filling Chancellor positions with Reich wing people in an attempt to destroy and hence privatise the state higher education system.:gate::omg::jason::fist:
This process has not demonstrated that I engaged in any serious research misconduct but that, after more than a year of painstaking review, those charged with firing me could find nothing more than a few footnotes and questions of attribution to quibble over.
[A capital offense, no doubt.]
University of Colorado administrators have simply confirmed that they will shamelessly cater to political pressure, discarding the most basic principles of academic freedom in their attempt to silence me and discredit my work.
Ward Churchill has peers like Noam Chomsky who support him. This panel recommendation is an outrageous conclusion to a modern witchhunt. He has been writing such critiques of empire for a long time. He may get fired at CU, but watch him land a better job elsewhere at a place that is not cowed by the local government.
Re: Kent Jones. I have commented a few times here that I don’t find Kent Jones funny on the Maddow show. Not even unfunny funny like ala Bruce Cherry. (Is this the way it is supposed to be with Kent on TRMS?)
Was he funny on UnFiltered? I was unable to listen to that show more than two or three times, as KPOJ did not pick it up. However, Lawton Small is comic genius funny.
An investigative committee said in May that the professor had plagiarized from a Canadian environmental organization and committed research misconduct regarding writings of two other professors; that Churchill “created myths under the banner of academic scholarship” about the spread of smallpox among American Indians; and that he misrepresented or inaccurately portrayed federal laws.
Is that all they got?
Someone on the far left with some notoriety has to find a soap box and some how start blasting the Reich instead of just making fun of them..and propose some solutions to getting rid of them, not just defeating them in an election with people just slightly more to the left. In the beginning I hoped but now I don’t think AAR is going to be that some how. I still think that some group from the US has got to go see someone like Chavez or even Putin and see if they can get the financing to do something greater than AAR has done.
I am going over to White Rose and see if I can get Malloy’s discussion with Drobney. Interesting position on Fuitzgerald by Drobney: Fitzie does not want to rock the boat, so he played it safe with Rove. Although the judge could have charged Rove with several, substantial things, he went with the hard to prove conspiracy charge. (I only heard a smattering of it.)
I don’t want to kick a man while he is down, but I knew a professor who claimed that Ward Churchill was a federal agent provacateur. The dispute stemmed from Churchill’s activism in something called the 4th World concept. For what it’s worth, I have always found Churchill to be a stimulating read. Even when I did not agree with him.
The Reich is really good at reading a law passed in 1870 and interpreting it in today’s context as apposed to seeing how it was used in 1870 and who it was applied to. Churchill has been a champion in the area that the US army committed genocide by intentionally introducing disease into the American Indian through putting them on reservations, poor health care and malnutrition. A lot of people including Mark Twain have written about the deplorable conditions but the Reich somehow makes it into a myth. :gate::omg::jason::fist:
Nicki: Malloy is also archived since AAR premium went into effect on Mininova. Was that on last nights Malloy show ??
Maddow is best when she’s slapping Dem Party hacks around.
Its time for a Massive Depression Rant:
Folks, “we” can ‘take back’ the Senate, we can ‘take back’ the House, but back to what? This silly optimism is way overblown. Does anyone remember how Carter got all but castrated by his own party, especially by Tip that drunken bastard, early in his administration, and then got forced hard right at the end, to the point where we were subsidizing death squads in Latin America even before Reagan got there? We started the brilliant alliance with the mujahaddim under Carter too.
And where was the solid Dem support when Hillary tried to get universal health care, and why did the first crucial Clinton budget barely squeek through with only a single vote to spare? Check out that great constitutional statesman Bobby Byrd, who we all love so much now, and see what he was up to in the late 70’s and 90’s. Best friend the GOP ever had, he was back then. Made Lieberman look like a Trotskyite. And if we do all this great taking over, the Times and WaPo are still riddled with right wing moles. And where’s Russert going?
So, I’m off to New Zealand.
pant pant pant :40: its even getting hot down here.. Probably the hall wasn’t designed for 20 people in 30 feet. At least Ms late lets me sit at the console and look like I’m busy . There are people who brought their chairs down here and are using the wireless network on their laptops but having the single repeater makes it slower than slow.
:knit::knit::knit::knit::omg::40::40::yawn::yawn::yawn:
cresttwo: are you moving to New Zealand or just going there for the winter. ?? New Zealand is to close to Australia another Reich wing empire.
Hiring the rich through the election process to run the country has produced a government that is totally detached from the people and is only me me me oriented. :yawn::yawn::gate::omg::jason::fist:
I can’t believe that CU committee harshed Churchill for sketchy scholarship. What researcher could not be charged with the same? No one!:omg:
Gawd, I just caught my irresponsible mailman trying to CRUSH an oversized envelope into my little bitty mailbox. just in time. He was shaking after I got through with him.
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The Evolution of
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This book proposes a new view of the
development of early Christianity. It gives
evidence that the character of Jesus of
Nazareth is a literary character, based on
prior literary Christ characters, including
John the Baptist, Simon Magus, and
Joshua of Nun. It also suggests that an
important part of the New Testament
gospel texts can be traced back to a play
written by a woman named Mary.
:jesus:
a play by Mary, eh?
The Evolution of Christs and Christianities will surprise the most gullible and the most skeptical. It examines the development of the concept of the Christ and the development of Christ movements starting precisely two thousnd years ago in 6 CE. It suggests a startling new answer to the question, “Did Jesus Exist?” It proposes that a woman named Mary created the character of Jesus for a play written around 46 CE. The New Testament Gospels are based on this original play.
The first decade of the 21st century has seen an unprecedented questioning of the origins of Christianity. Works by authors such as Robert Price (Incredible Shrinking Jesus), Bart D. Ehrman (Lost Christianities : The Battles for Scripture and the Faiths We Never Knew),Timothy Freke and Peter Gandy (The Jesus Mysteries), Earl Doherty (The Jesus Puzzle), Archarya S (The Christ Conspiracy), Robert Eisenman (James the Brother of Jesus,), Burton Mack ( The Christian Myth: Origins, Logic, and Legacy ), and Dan Brown (The Da Vinci Code) challenge commonly held assumptions about these origins.
This book similarly challenges many orthodox premises. It examines the possible reasons for the many contradictions, changes and breaking points in the narratives of the books of the New Testament. It deconstructs these texts to suggest an alternative history behind them.
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Taken together, these hypotheses suggest that Jesus of Nazareth was not a real historical person. He was primarily a complex literary creation. He was a combination of various texts about Joshua of Nun, John the Baptist, James the Just, Simon Magus and various other literary characters. However some of these earlier characters may have been loosely based on, or intended to refer to, various historical persons who lived in the first half of the First century.
The author, Dr. Jay Raskin, has a Ph.D. in Philosophy from the University of South Florida.
What did you discover about “the son of Nicki”?
that’s going to be controversial…but you know, oh well 🙂 Dying sacrificial gods who are ressurected: no new thing with Christianity
the link to that news source was dead, supposedly because “pages have been moved around” since 2004 (I assume when the news story was in print, but maybe that was even earlier). I also assume the story still exists in the archives, but there’s an awful lot of news stories to look through and there doesn’t seem to be a good search tool on the website, so it’s just browsing and more browsing
if it’s there, I’ll find it, however
The real conspiracy surrounding Jesus is not the cover-up of his marriage to Mary Magdalene, but his theological transformation into the “bridegroom” of the Christian Church (Mark 2: 18-22). Jesus was a Jew not a Christian. He was not about dying so that believers everywhere could inherit eternal life, but about liberating the Jews in his land from Roman occupation. His crucifixion was not about resurrecting the dead but about reviving the living. His sacrifice was not about heaven or hell for all people in the future, but about release and renewal for the Jewish people in this life. The great conspiracy is the early Christian Church turning his model of liberation from an oppressive state into one of accommodation to the state.
:omg:
What website?
Where did you find this stuff about “the son”?
I think it’s unthinkable for religion to NOT be changed/used for political reasons. It’s got too much potential for the state to leave alone, and left alone it does the state damage, so it has to be used. So no great surprise here that the meaning of the crucifixion was changed.
Liberation Theology, baby!:omg:
I did find a search field on the website, but I keep getting obituaries and real estate listings when I put in “Nicki Rose” :omg:
Long time ago. Okay. I saw Darrell yesterday. He is a photographer. Yeah. He got a random e-mail from ******
:omg:
:40:
well I’d like to freakin SEE that article…
:jason::lol:
Rachel needs to get Lizz Winstead out of Connie and Maury-land (what a HORRIBLE show that is) and rehire her now that Goldfuck is gone.
Im listening to her now and its pretty…ugh…
Comment by Melina — June 14, 2006 @ 9:28 am
Rumor has it that MSNBC is shuffling their schedule and cutting Beauty and the Beast loose, so presumably Lizz would be available unless she had the savvy to have something else already lined up.
I agree with the general tone of disappointment in Rachel’s show in general, and especially today in particular. She needs to spend less time explaining why everyone will be moving to the right, and more time promoting a more progressive agenda in hopes that we can keep America FROM moving to the right.
:fist:
But I have to disagree about Kent. He isn’t as funny with Rachel as he was on MS, but Lawton and Angus MacFarqhar are gold.
oh I don’t know… YOU sent the stuff to me, I’m just following the trail (or trying to!) :fire:
oh yeah, Lawton Smalls is Da Bomb. I had no idea that was Kent Jones. Obviously he’s told to do different things on the two shows.
:omg::lol:
hmm..ok
:omg::jesus:
:tongue:
I think Kent Jones is damn funny. But why do his routines on TRMS not come through? I don’t particularly like Rachel, but that is a personal thing.
maybe Kent is better when he does impersonations (like Lawton) as opposed to straight comedy. On Rachel he does a lot of commentary about celebrities and pop culture, which I can do without
The Gospel of Thomas ends with Jesus
defending Mary against attacks by the
male disciples that she is a woman and
not worthy of [eternal] life.
If we identify Mary Magdalene as the
unnamed Woman at the Well, she is also
the first person to recognize Jesus as the
Messiah.
She’s a pretty powerful figure, there must have been considerable time and effort put into muting all that power. I’m sure she’s just a whisper of what she might have been in any of that commentary
I’ve missed too many Marc Maron shows lately. I think I’ll try to wake up tonight and actually listen to it :omg:
“For me to live Eternal Life
You…
:omg:
I’m just barely familiar with the new testament, just wasn’t brought up with it…just in the last few years I’ve started to read some of it (to get a better grasp of as many religions as I can)
The Gospel of Mary of Magdala
Jesus and the First Woman Apostle
Karen L. King
Lost for more than fifteen hundred years, the Gospel of Mary is the only existing early Christian gospel written in the name of a woman. Karen L. King tells the story of the recovery of this remarkable gospel and offers a new translation. This brief narrative presents a radical interpretation of Jesus’ teachings as a path to inner spiritual knowledge. It rejects his suffering and death as a path to eternal life and exposes the view that Mary Magdalene was a prostitute for what it is—a piece of theological fiction. The Gospel of Mary of Magdala offers a fascinating glimpse into the conflicts and controversies that shaped earliest Christianity.
Includes complete photos of the Berlin Codex, Papyrus Oxyrhynchus 3525, and the Rylands Papyrus.
Probe Ministries
The Jesus Seminar
Jimmy Williams
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Introduction
* “Jesus did not ask us to believe that his death was a blood sacrifice, that he was going to die for our sins.”
* “Jesus did not ask us to believe that he was the messiah. He certainly never suggested that he was the second person of the trinity. In fact, he rarely referred to himself at all.”
* “Jesus did not call upon people to repent, or fast, or observe the sabbath. He did not threaten with hell or promise heaven.”
* “Jesus did not ask us to believe that he would be raised from the dead.”
* “Jesus did not ask us to believe that he was born of a virgin.”
* “Jesus did not regard scripture as infallible or even inspired.”
So says Robert W. Funk, Architect and Founder of the Jesus Seminar, in a Keynote Address to the Jesus Seminar Fellows in the spring of 1994.(1) The Jesus Seminar has been receiving extensive coverage lately in such periodicals as Time, Newsweek, U.S. News & World Report, as well as on network television.
Mary is not marginalized in some places…down in Mexico, Our Lady of Guadalupe IS the Virgin Mary, and she’s put much higher on a pedestal than she is here. She’s talked about as much as Jesus, and it’s hard to remember who is really the deity there. At least that’s the impression I got down there.
that’s interesting…I wonder if it’s true that people were commanded to “spread the good word” meaning preach and use it as an excuse to get in people’s faces and push religion on those who were really not interested…
You do know that Mary Magdalene is not the BVM of Guadalupe fame?
no? Who is Guadalupe then? I was told she’s the equivalent of Mary, with maybe a little Aztec Goddess synchronism mixed into her…
There is an officia “theology” behind how Christians (Catholics) are to regard Jesus and Mary, his mother).
According to official Catholic teaching, Our Lady of Guadalupe signifies a visit that Mary (the mother of god) paid to the people in Mexico. If you believe that other stuff, you are in apostasy.
I guess I get my info from unofficial sources…damn pagans… ooops
Susan: There are two Mary’s in the bible . There is Mary the mother of Christ and there is Mary Magdalene who is a person mentioned in the scriptures as being a friend and in some newer interpretations the wife of Jesus. Most protestant religions say Mary Magdalene was a prostitute so in the common context she was the worst of the worst but still accepted by Jesus. Some Greek scholars say she was merely a “working” girl of the times. The Catholic Church’s Virgin Mary is the mother of Christ. Some religious scholars even think of Mary Magdalene as the 13th disciple. Women had rather lowly standing in those days so she couldn’t really be anything in the context of those times.
Actually, I believe that the Catholic Church does not require its members to believe in the Our Lady of Guadalupe story. You can be a a member in good standing…
well yeah, I’m a heathen :nixon:
hmm, ok. As I said, I didn’t grow up with Christianity, so I don’t know what’s pretty basic to most everybody else
Miriam! Was that you at the well?:jesus:
Hey! This is not common knowledge, you malcontent.
You grew up in the US. Therefore…:omg:
You know more than you think.
Oh, that’s right! Hey I’m getting a lot of secret “only for your eyes” stuff today…some of it that I can’t even figure out, go me!!!! :doh:
Hey, Susan! What does INRI mean?:omg:
actually I DO think from time to time, as wrong as that’s supposed to be… :smack:
Shall we collaborate on a play? Susan and Miriam at the Well.
ok, you’re losing me (Suzie, not Susan. Going to have to change my name on here)
Good Bye!
The major books ( Matthew, Mark , Luke and John) of the new testament present some what different accounts of Jesus and some go into much more detail than others. And some contradicting the others. One has to remember they were not transcribed until maybe a 100 to 300 years after Jesus was crucified and then from stories told by word of mouth in the early church. They were transcribed by scribes on parchment in the early church and there is a big problem going from Hebrew to Greek to Latin to German to English. Gutenberg’s first book he published with his printing press in 1600 was the bible so it became cast in wet cement at that point in time. There are several agnostic books that were not included in the bibles used by the Church of Rome ( Peter’s church). Think about the game you play when you sit with 10 people in a circle and the first person whispers something in the second person ear and after the message has transversed the circle what comes out of the mouth of the last person and you have the new testament. It is a wonder any of the books agree in any way.
Wha???
Hartman is going to get in trouble with the FCC he is talking about… SEX.. on the radio before 10 pm.
Hartman is doing the Majority Report tonight from San francisco because he couldn’t get connections to fly from DC to Portland.. and had to lay over one night in San fran.. should have taken the train.
:bow::omg::40::rabbi::priest:
For What its worth in the context of the previous discussion INRI ..
The words were “Iesvs Nazarenvs Rex Ivdaeorvm.” Latin uses “I” instead of the English “J”, and “V” instead of “U” (i.e., Jesus Nazarenus Rex Judaeorum). The English translation is “Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews.”
He was .. at the time all Christians were also Jews.
It figures!:omg:
So does Nicki want to talk about the bible ?? I will bet I could make a raving fool out of myself . Or we could talke about the Foorhils Mall ..:omg::omg::omg::razz::roll::40:
The problem with the literal interpretation of Bible is that the fundies take it as the word of God where as scholars who have dissected it over the last 2000 yeas find it to be mostly the word of man. The early church most likely added and modifed some things in some of the books because they switch from first to second person and switch styles. It is known that just before Gutenberg printed it the Catholic church fixed up some of the context so it made more sense. Gutenberg printed Luther’s bible so it and that written in Latin and used in the Catholic church didn’t agree in several places.
Leveiticus and the book of Revelation were added quite some time after the first bibles were transcribed. Like maybe 1200 years later during the dark ages probably to keep people in line.
Taking the bible as the absolute word of God is a bunch of C*
The AC got fixed so maybe by Monday it will have cooled the place off to where one can work in their office again providing running 24/7 doesn’t make it self destruct.
The foothills mall was full of .. old people.. 🙁 even the food court had no scenery to observe. What has happened to Malls and sparsely clad young ladies ?? .. maybe it is the “great” economy. The kids are to busy working at MCD’s and BK or maybe they are all on Myspace ?? The old people all have trouble paying their utilities bills so they hang at the mall..to keep from suffering from heat prostration. Maybe the two generations are incompatible ??
hey so uh this is friggin funny assclown in chief is taking japans prime minister to see graceland very odd if you ask me i think they are both gay but uh thats just me
Abolish the Capitalist Class! Awareness is useless unless backed by action! :omg:
:rofl2:Last year Koizumi crooned to Bush his favorite Elvis tune, I Want You, I Need You, I Love You at Bush’s 59th birthday party at the G8 summit in Gleneagles, Scotland hosted by Queen Elizabeth II of Britain. During a 2003 meeting at Bush’s ranch in Crawford, Texas, the two men were talking for several hours by the pool when Koizumi started singing an Elvis song.
i got free sneakers today!
I need new sneakers. It looks like a dog took a bite out of part of the back…
Say what you want about Koizumi, the man’s got a nice head of hair. Looks good for a 64 yr old guy (of course, those Asians age well).
markos moulitas: daily dictator.
Line up behind democrats. No dissent.
i am not liebermans campaign manager although that could work well if i was huh!
plus I also need new socks, now that I think about it.
Out! Circulate those tapes!:nixon:
I have an “inside” connection to Joe Lieberman’s campaign. I could get a job with him. I won’t do it, though. I would never work for a Republican.
i got two free pairs of socks too!
I might also need new blue jeans
oh yes, and new bathing suit, the pool finally opened 🙂
Sean, you’re looking spiffy!
subversion! work against him while working “for” him!
uh i have a brand new pair of jeans but i didnt get them for free
I would feel dirty… :omg:
so where do you get free clothing? Cus everywhere I know, they cost money…
work! lots of free corporate sponsorship stuff on the warped tour i got free gold bond powder today!
oh :doh:
:banana:free stuff!
Mike Malloy :fist:
hmm, I don’t think my e-mail is working, I haven’t gotten anything all day, how is that possible?
uh here watch this!
RFK Jr is soooo cool
Hey- did anyone ever find last night’s show?
yay, managed to get up in time for the show, for a change :jesus:
then again I fell asleep on the computer chair, some time after Sam Seder was on, so guess I’m not getting all of it 😮
Hey, Corona is a good distraction. Uh, yup!
I went paddling today , and I think on friday I’m going fishing. OK, later, sheeple. I’m kinda out of it and stuff. 8 days and counting.
:yawn::love::peace:
I’m going to find some pix, so give me a minute or two.
Alright, here is a low resolution pic of me and a pic of the person that I’ll be staying with in Wa.:yawn: I have ot fall asleep now.
Ok, I’ll post before I leave. So, later, sheeple.
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:spank:
GRRRRR