Oh boy, it’s Friday. Today is the six month anniversary of the last Morning Sedition show, which aired on a very snowy day (in Syracuse, anyway) – December 16, 2005. Yes, I must admit, I shed a few tears that day. Marc’s mom made me (and Marc) cry a bit, and when Marc choked on “geniuses, philosoper kings….” and couldn’t finish it, a tear fell, too. Morning Sedition – that cast of characters, the time of day, everything it had become – was a once in a lifetime thing. It will never be duplicated, and it ended too soon. So, Brendan, Matt, Kent, Little Goliath, John Crimmings, Jim, Pashman, Barry, Chip, Lucy, Newsdaddy, Marc, Mark, K-Lo, Shelley, Trent, and everybody else that made Morning Sedition possible, we miss you dearly, but are so thankful to you for making it a little bit – hell, a lot – easier to get out of bed and face that neo-con death cult, Christo-fascist zombie brigade world in which we live.
Enjoy your Friday everybody, and don’t forget to respectfully pester a few AAR people if you get a chance. 50 to go.
:nixon: Suzie rules as all! She is number one, numero uno and she dominates :spank:
Militias hold sway in prisons, Iraqi says
U.S. asked to halt transfer as militants free some inmates, abuse others
Updated: 10:50 p.m. MT June 15, 2006
BAGHDAD – Iraq’s prison system is overrun with Shiite Muslim militiamen who have freed fellow militia members convicted of major crimes and executed Sunni Arab inmates, the country’s deputy justice minister said in an interview this week.
“We cannot control the prisons. It’s as simple as that,” said the deputy minister, Pusho Ibrahim Ali Daza Yei, an ethnic Kurd. “Our jails are infiltrated by the militias from top to bottom, from Basra to Baghdad.”
As a result, Yei has asked U.S. authorities to suspend plans to transfer prisons and detainees from American to Iraqi control. “Our ministry is unprepared at this time to take over the facilities, especially those in areas where Shiite militias exist,” he said in a letter to U.S. Army Maj. Gen. John D. Gardner, the official in charge of American detention facilities
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/13328484/
Once again I am holding by watch above my head to keep it out of the BS.
:rant1::growl: 🙁
Good morning :sheep:le .. How’s is Susan this morning ?? It’s Friday It’s Friday :banana::banana::banana:
Congrats Susan on #1
Morning Fred. It’s nice when the boss’s gone for a few days.
Ewwww David Bender :barf: warning repeat :barf: warning:rant1::mad::eek::yuck:
Our Boss is always gone…even when he is here.. ( Fred looks over shoulder while holding the mouse on the minimize icon) .. Hows KK this morning ?? :yawn::yawn::joe::joe::joe:
Those Vegas infotaimentmertials, I could live without.
The Vegas infomercials are on with both Riley and Maddow.. At first I thought it was an interview but now they are programed into the ignore list.:crap::yuck: 🙁
Already, the transfer plan is meeting resistance
Already, I’m not surprised ….
This I have been – Kong, killer of bugs! (as the ‘boy’ in an office of ‘girls’ it is a task that is thrust upon me) 😯
good morning King Kong and Fred :joe: I wish my bosses would disappear again like they did a couple of weeks ago, I had the run of the office. I think they’re going to put me in charge again sometime in July or August for maybe a week, that should be fun. Especially with less kids around during the summer 🙂 🙂
While we are being distracted American industry continues to screw its workers
The New York Times will report Friday on the diverging paths of the American labor movement, RAW STORY has learned.
Judging by the somber mood at the United Automobile Workers convention, the state of organized labor would seem dire, the New York Times’ Steven Greenhouse begins Friday in the Times. Excerpts from the upcoming article:
Not so long ago, the UAW was the nation’s largest and most swaggering union, leading the way in building America’s middle class by winning impressive wages, health coverage and pensions.
But the UAW is now in full retreat, ready to make concessions to help save the American auto industry. Its plight points to a little understood development: The nation’s private sector is divided into two very different labor movements.
The first is comprised of manufacturing unions, like the autoworkers and machinists, which are on the defensive and on the decline. The second is made up of unions for the expanding service sector, which are upbeat and on the prowl for hundreds of thousands of nursing home aides, janitors and supermarket cashiers.
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The Kroger markets around here are Unionized but they say they will close them all if they can’t compete with WalMart so the service industry unions are getting a lot of pressure too. Fighting Walmart may require a little 2.80 a gallon energy.. if you get my drift. :omg::fu::mad::rant1: 🙁
SAN ANTONIO (AP) – Fort Sam Houston has received 1,300 utility service termination notices for delinquent bill payments, which officials blamed on a major budget shortfall.
CPS Energy warned commanders at the post to pay $4.2 million by Wednesday or risk losing power. The post is three months behind on its bills, but both Army and utility officials said the two parties were talking and no cutoff was imminent.
“Who would imagine us not paying our bill?” said Col. Wendy Martinson, Fort Sam Houston’s garrison commander. “I worry about it. I can’t sleep at night.”
http://tinyurl.com/s2key
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I guess our older people are not the only ones with problems with their utility bills.. Usually having a military base was thought of as being good for business. 🙁 :omg::eek::yuck:
Flight attendants and pilots have had HUGE salary cuts. :jason:
American Industry seems to be taking any jobs they can off shore. I don’t see how striking them which is the only ( legal) weapon available to the workers is going to solve the problem.
Only government intervention can do anything then its not clear what they do if Industry just picks up and leaves.. I would think the only thing government could do is shut out the offenders but they first have to prohibit/inhibit them from taking any of their equipment off shore or some one (guess who) will have to foot a huge bill to recreate it over here again.
Maybe the air force could be used to convince them differently.. industrialists hate to lose their stuff too.
Bombing the GM plant in China on the other hand … :?::?::?::!:
:40::40: :mad::rant1::eek::yuck::-(
Mornin’ Suzie, KK, Fred. Whoopdie-doo, it’s Friday.
Something like 70% of the tech sector jobs in the Denver area are with Defense Contractors, but they haven’t come near to picking up the slack from the private sector loses in 2000 – 2003 when we lost some 32,000 private sector tech jobs. Defense Contractors also tend to not do manufacturing techie things. Having a tech economy dependent on DOD bothers a lot of people.. what happens when the dems get into power .. whoo whoo..?? 🙁 :yuck::eek::omg:
PJ you need to set up a web cam that you can place in your chair at the breakfast table in NY and a similar one you can use in DC then you and your wife can have a kind of virtual reality .. Might be an improvement over the current reality though. :doh::shock::yuck::eek::omg:
Actually, I have a web cam here, and we’ve used it. She’s got one there, too, but I guess she hasn’t used it in a while. What we need is a set of these.
is your home over/under valued..?? A lot of Americans are borrowed up to their eye brows using their property as collateral.. It looks like a lot of people should scout out places under a bridge.
http://tinyurl.com/zo82d
It looks like hurricane alley has the most overvalued property what happens when there is both a correction in the market and a hurricane.. is a lot under 20 feet of water still worth much ?? :eek::yuck::doh:
Forgot to mention during my rant yesterday about George Carlin and Man Coulter on Leno…
K.T. Tunstall had the segment after Annie Trannie. I’m not very familiar with her music, but she won me over when I saw a sticker on her guitar that quoted Woody Guthrie:
“THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS”
:love::love::love:
The song wasn’t that great, but what the hell.
Has it only been 6 months since MS went away? Seems like forever.
Hot weather is great in a real desert.. unfortunately our desert comes with trees.
DENVER (AP) — With another tinderbox summer shaping up in much of the West, officials issued red-flag fire warnings for Colorado on Thursday, while in Arizona a roaring blaze forced the evacuation of about 1,000 homes.
Wildfires also were burning in Alaska, Utah and New Mexico.
The aggressive 700-acre Colorado blaze had already prompted about 100 people to leave their homes in the rolling hills near Westcliffe, about 100 miles south of Denver.
The fire, which began when a falling tree dragged a power line to the ground, left patches of dense trees and brush “totally nuked, completely black,” said Steve Segin, a spokesman for the Rocky Mountain Incident Management Team.
http://tinyurl.com/oobgm
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Living in that dream house under the pines is becoming a nightmare for a lot of people..
The fire in 2003 was beginning to look like we would have a repeat of the great Chicago fire… it was getting really close to the metro area and all those tract homes twenty feet apart.:mad::eek::yuck::fustrate::fustrate:
Fred envisions Rachel moving quickly toward the rest room before she :barf:s (she described yesterdays senate session as being extremely moving):fustrate::fustrate::eek::yuck:
are we having an identity crisis?
Morning Renegades!
They want us to go away, but we just won’t die.
Hey FarmerKat :fist:
How did you survive the Hurricane .. err.. tropical storm.. err. thunder shower..:?::?:
pj, those are NOT a turn-on…find your wife something else, is my advice.
KP, thanks for your sentiment on the mr and no, I didn’t send in a letter to malloy.
the military can’t pay its power bill? :billcat:
Identity crisis ?? Just because AAR doesn’t want any body on the left except dems lying around the pool waiting for their dividend checks to listen to them.. what identity crisis ??:40::yuck::eek::omg::gate::omg::jason::fist:
I was thinking the same thing Farmerkat was PJ.. Its hard to have a virtual one of those. I thought most people over the age of about 40 had pretty much given up on that kind of activity anyhow .. Fred now removes head from gutter..:40::omg:
we only got 1/2 inch of rain – not nearly enough. No rain until maybe next week. We need a few inches at least.
if you’re listening to Rachael about the new leader to replace Zarqawi… my source says the US is trying to put up a boogy-man foreigner (Egyptian) – that’s why.
Oh, well, I never intended to actually get one. I mean, I’m already all but forgotten. With one of those, there’d be no need for me at all.
Now, if there was an Internet controlled dog walker with a built in collar cam, that would cool. I could go for walkies on my lunch hour.
maybe you can make your fortune with the collar cam and then buy tons of radio stations and blast marc all over the US….
unbelievable rethuglican/chickenhawk – yay murtha :fist:
I was thinking the same thing about the new AQ leader in Iraq.. They have turned the struggle of the Iraqi people against a foreign invader into a fight to the death with AQ.. Its is to bad the M$M is complicit with there activity. :gate::omg::jason::fist:
Back on a computer. With my sister and Mom we just use a the web cam, pj, to stay in touch. Those you mention are not for all in the family. :omg:
this was posted at huffpo by a blogger (I’ll break it up in two posts since it’s long)
Military service by prominent Democrats:
Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle – 1st Lt., U.S. Air Force SAC 1969-72 .
Senator Tom Harkin (D-IA) – Lt., U.S. Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74. (1, 2)
Senator Fritz Hollings (D-SC) – served as a U.S. Army officer in World War II, receiving the Bronze Star and seven campaign ribbons.
Senator Daniel Inouye, US Army 1943-’47; Medal of Honor, World War Two.
Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA) – U.S. Army, 1951-1953. o
Senator John Kerry, Lt., U.S. Navy 1966-70; Silver Star, Bronze Star with Combat V, and three awards of the Purple Heart for his service in combat.
Senator Jack Reed (D-RI) – U.S. Army Ranger, 1971-1979; Captain, Army Reserve 1979-91 (1)
Max Cleland, Former Senator, Captain, U.S. Army 1965-68; Silver Star & Bronze Star, Vietnam
Bob Kerrey, Former Senator, Lt. j.g., U.S. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor, Vietnam.
Rep. Richard Gephardt, former House Minority Leader – Missouri Air National Guard, 1965-71.
Rep. David Bonior, Representative, (D-MI) – Former House Minority Whip – Staff Sgt., Air Force, 1968-72
Rep. Mike Thompson, D-CA: Staff sergeant/platoon leader with the 173rd Airborne Brigade, U.S. Army; was wounded and received a Purple Heart.
Rep. Pete Stark, D-CA, served in the Air Force 1955-57
Wesley Clark, General, US Army.
Al Gore, Former Vice President – enlisted August 1969; sent to Vietnam January 1971.
Bill Clinton, did not serve.
Military service by prominent Republicans attacked by the right wing
John McCain, US Senator (AZ) – McCain’s naval honors include the Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross. (Attacked by Bush Campaign for President as having become mentally unstable while a POW.)
Colin Powell. Secretary of State, General. US Army, Attacked by many on Radical Right for being an appeaser, soft on Saddam and other enemies
Lets thank all our right wing heroes for their “service” today.
Prominent right-wing Republicans and military service
George W. Bush – National Guard back when service there meant you did not see combat. Even so, went AWOL for a year.
Dick Cheney – did not serve.
John Ashcroft, Attorney General – did not serve.
Don Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense – served in the U.S. Navy (1954-57) as an aviator and flight instructor.
Rep. Dennis Hastert, Speaker of the House – avoided the draft, did not serve.
Rep. Tom Delay, House Majority Leader – avoided the draft, did not serve.
Rep. Roy Blunt, House Majority Whip (MO) – did not serve
Dick Armey, Former House Majority Leader – avoided the draft, did not serve.
Sen. Bill Frist , Senate Majority Leader (TN) – did not serve.
Sen. Mitch McConnell, Majority Whip, (KY) – did not serve.
Sen. Rick Santorum, (PA), third ranking Republican in the Senate – did not serve. (1)
Trent Lott, Former Senate Majority Leader (MS) – avoided the draft, did not serve.
Jeb Bush, Florida Governor – did not serve.
Karl Rove – avoided the draft, did not serve.
Newt Gingrich, Former Speaker of the House – avoided the draft, did not serve.
Bill Bennett, (author of Why We Fight), did not serve.
Antonin Scalia, Supreme Court Justice, did not serve.
Clarence Thomas, Supreme Court Justice, did not serve.
Phil Gramm, former Senator. Did not serve.
Paul Wolfowitz, Deputy Secretary of Defense, did not serve.
Spencer Abraham, Secretary of Energy, did not serve.
Rep. Henry Hyde, (IL) did not serve.
Jack Kemp, did not serve.
Sen. Don Nickles, (OK) did not serve.
J. C. Watts, Former Congressman, (OK), did not serve.
Bill Simon, did not serve.
Saxby Chambliss, did not serve.
Marc Racicot, avoided the draft despite a lottery number of 23. see http://www.billingsnews.com/story?storyid=3182&issue=98……
Right-wing preachers and pundits
P. J. O’Rourke (author of Give War a Chance), did not serve.
Bill Kristol, editor The Weekly Standard, did not serve.
Bill O’Reilly, Fox News celebrity, did not serve.
Sean Hannity, Fox News celebrity, did not serve.
Wolf Blitzer, CNN Newsman. Did not serve.
David Horowitz, Right Wing media hit man. Did not serve.
Mike Savage, Right Wing media hit man, did not serve.
George Will, columnist, did not serve.
Pat Robertson, politician/preacher, His US Senator daddy got him out of Korea when war began.
Ralph Reed, did not serve.
Jerry Falwell, preacher/politician, did not serve.
Ken Starr, did not serve.
Gary Bauer, politician/preacher, did not serve.
Alan Keyes, did not serve.
Roger Ailes, Fox News President, did not serve.
Yeah, well, I’m not much to look at, so it’s not much of an incentive for others to view my web cam. When the dog hears my voice, he goes running to the room behind the the computer to see where the hell I am.
There are some American industries that one would think that they can’t outsource like the highway worker that fixes potholes and the untidily line worker and you would think the train crew people or person. The Association of American railroads is testing a system by which trains can be controlled over the Internet.. Just don’t drive around that crossing gate or depending on the update rate the train may never discover you were there.
Should be a light day on the train today. A third of DC takes Fridays off, due to flex time. That’s what I should be doing.
ah, that’s kind of sad, pj…the poor little guy.
Lets hear it for Paul Reickhoff .. ” Both parties are full of lemons ” :rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:
To bad Paul is not a real lefty just an aggravated military guy.:eek:
Hey PJ do you know if the Washington Metro is one of those computer controlled trains ?? Remember nothing can go wrong.. wrong .. wrong … wrong … wrong :eek::eek::yuck::doh::fustrate:
off to walk :knit:
Almost without exception the thugs and their media associates and their financial supporters have no idea of what getting shot at is like.. hummmm…
Do you suppose the thought police …. hummmm
Have a good one, FK.
I have something out there with a failure alarm.. I guess i will have to put on my plastic suit and go see.. blog with you all later.
They have people driving them. Makes a big difference when you have somebody who’s smooth, versus a “pump the breaks” kind. Especially if you’re standing up, trying to hold on to your shit and the pole at the same time.
Morning Gang!
Hey everyone!
Im glad I never listen live to AAR at home…y9ou have to wade through ads to get to the player and now I cant even get th eplayer to play
Ktlk’s stream quit on me after 10 minutes. So I missed last nights show. 🙁
:yinyang: Have you begun the new push? :fire:
Postcards were sent again.
I’m going to try and get something in the mail today.
andy if you have aol instant messenger i can transfer it to you…but its not edited. My stream seemingly quit after a little bit but then picked up again …I havent listened but its there
After the war, Israel Zolli, the Chief Rabbi of Rome, converted to Catholicism, taking the baptismal name Eugenio, in honor of Pius.
Pius’s anti-Communist activities became more potent following the war. In 1948, Pius declared that any Italian Catholic who supported Communist candidates in the parliamentary elections of that year would be excommunited. In 1949, he decreed that any Catholic who joined the Communist Party would be excommunicated. He also publicly condemned the Soviet crackdown on the 1956 Hungarian Revolution.
Thanks Melina,
I don’t have AIM. but I think my business email can take an attachment that big.
881
too many commercials… 😡
BLAST
The Vorticists had their own journal, BLAST, edited by Lewis. It published work by Ezra Pound and T. S. Eliot as well as by the vorticists themselves. Its typographical adventurousness was cited by El Lissitzky as one of the major forerunners of the revolution in graphic design in the 1920s and 1930s.
:omg:
Paul McCartney is 64 today!
who are Vorticists?
On his release, Pound returned to Italy where he continued writing, but his old certainties had deserted him. Although he continued working on The Cantos, he seemed to view them as an artistic failure. Allen Ginsberg, in an interview with Michael Reck, stated that Pound seemed to regret many of his past actions, and that he regretted that his work was tainted with “that stupid, suburban prejudice of anti-Semitism”[1], although contemporaneous letters published in recent years indicate that he was still unrepentently anti-semitic. Pound died in Venice in 1972.
Springer: “Why don’t we all just admit the government is taking over?” :omg:
Vorticism was a short lived, British art movement of the early 20th century. It is considered to be the only significant British movement of the early twentieth century but lasted less than three years.
ok, I’ll have to read about it, one element of art history I apparently didn’t hear of
My first father’s day without a father this year 🙁
Vorticism
The name “Vorticism” was given to the movement by Ezra Pound in 1913, although Wyndham Lewis, usually seen as the central figure in the movement, had been producing paintings in the same style for a year or so previously. The style grew out of Cubism, but is more closely related to Futurism in its embrace of dynamism, the machine age and all things modern (compare Cubo-Futurism). However, Vorticism diverged from Futurism in the way that it tried to capture movement in an image. In a Vorticist painting modern life is shown as an array of bold lines and harsh colours drawing the viewer’s eye into the centre of the canvas.
My father can go fuck himself.
Ok, thanks…I can place the movement a little bit better now. I think I’m familiar with some of this, actually
I’ll have to take your word for it… 😕
Imagism was a movement in early 20th century Anglo-American poetry that favoured precision of imagery, and clear, sharp language. The Imagists rejected the sentiment and artifice typical of much Romantic and Victorian poetry. This was in contrast to their contemporaries, the Georgian poets, who were by and large content to work within that tradition. Group publication of work under the Imagist name in magazines and in four anthologies appearing between 1914 and 1917 featured writing by many of the most significant figures in Modernist poetry in English, as well as a number of other Modernist figures who were to be prominent in fields other than poetry.
yep, Ezra Pound…
Crazy coot!
crazy coots seems to be a theme with you… :omg:
along with other themes…
hmm, someone just sent me a comment that I looked like Uma Thurman…now that’s a completely new one, I’ve never heard that one!
War is a Racket (1935) is a short work by former U.S. Marine Major General Smedley Darlington Butler, where Butler discusses how business interests have commercially benefited from warfare. Butler points to a variety of examples, mostly from World War I, where industrialists whose operations were subsidised by public funding were able to generate substantial profits essentially from mass human suffering.
my heart goes out to you, suz….
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thanks for the art history lesson; I, too, had not heard of that particular movement.
sounds like a timeless kind of work
Would be great if I can find this in Barnes and Nobles, it’s right next to where I work and I spend breaks there sometimes… I’ve already set aside time to look over Sam Seder’s new book 🙂
I don’t look anything like Uma Thurman, I’m not blonde and tall, first of all!
Nicki, still there?
:joe:Morning all
Hey Krista 🙂
Hey, FK. Sounds like the Drobny’s and Dr. Mike are working on a solution for Atlanta’s liberal talk radio problem. I heard what an asshole the guy is that bought the AAR station in Atlanta. Hope he loses his shirt.
andy, Ive got to run out now but ifyou mai me at doubter at optonline dot net I will send it to you this afternoon.
Any word on Monday’s show?
I think Marc is taping out of his garage.
Have to go to work, later sheople.
Melina, if you access AAR through The Majority Report you don’t get the ads.
H RES 861 YEA-AND-NAY 16-Jun-2006 11:17 AM
QUESTION: On Agreeing to the Resolution
BILL TITLE: Declaring that the United States will prevail in the Global War on Terror, the struggle to protect freedom from the terrorist adversary
Yeas Nays PRES NV
Republican 214 3 2 12
Democratic 42 149 3 7
Independent 1
TOTALS 256 153 5 19
You can go here to see how your yahoo voted
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2006/roll288.xml
Jerry really said that ???? :omg::omg::omg:
yes…:omg:
Buzzflash headline
Everyday the Media Wipes His Slate Clean of Blood, Lies and Greed. Who Cares if a Fool is Upbeat After Setting Fire to a Town? George W. Bush is the BuzzFlash GOP Hypocrite of the Week, Yet Again.
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Someone needs to wipe the floor with the media.
I don’t suppose Jerry had anything to suggest about what to do about that.. does he have Vaseline as a new sponsor ??:gate::omg::jason::fist:
“My father can go fuck himself”
That’s the single most brilliant and original thought ever expressed on this blog.
Can I get a bumpersticker for that one?
And one for my friend GW too?
Now Hartman is reciting the history of the Bush administration.. That’s slightly better than the usual history of the US from the time the pilgrims landed. Sounds like a male version of Randi Rhodes. :omg: 🙁 :doh::fustrate::crap::yuck::eek: :gate::omg::jason::fist:
Did anyone think it strange that Rachel took the time to come here to warn against some unwelcome messages on her blog? I looked there and only could see some (unfair) crisicism of her interview with Harry Reid’s assistant. Is Rachel taking herself a little too seriously? Maybe a little to thin-skinned for a radio host?
:roll:just sayin’
Here’s a review of laughing liberally from an apparently uptight putz.
I don’t think Rachel came here. That was somebody else posting a parody of her post on her own blog. AFAIK, she neither came her not mentioned this blog (though I could be wrong, of course, since I quite often am).
Hey art. Rachel didn’t come over here I copied the unhappy gram from her blog over here.
Something is happening at AAR which looks like they don’t really want their audience to take the current situation seriously. AAR’s hosts also don’t or are unwilling to find guests or come up with there own ideas as to how to reach a solution to get rid the fascist state we have in control. Rachel used to be one of AAR’s most proactive talkers now she is a bad Stephie Miller. The people on her blog seem to want to make the blog into a joke or are creating spam so no one can get a serious conversation going..They talk about everything except the show. :doh::doh::doh::fustrate::fustrate:
Sheeez I think Hartman has finally run out of material :doh::doh::fustrate::fustrate:
He has been sounding like Rhodes all day today..
THOM WE KNOW THE THUGS HAVE SCREWED UP EVERYTHING. NOW TELL US HOW TO FIX IT SO WE KNOW IT WILL GET FIXED NOW… NOT OVER THE NEXT 30 YEARS :fustrate::fustrate::fu::fu::gate::omg::jason::fist:
Its Origins and Growth
The Power of the Israel Lobby
By KATHLEEN and BILL CHRISTISON
Former CIA analysts
John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt, the University of Chicago and Harvard political scientists who published in March of this years a lengthy, well documented study on the pro-Israel lobby and its influence on U.S. Middle East policy in March , have already accomplished what they intended. They have successfully called attention to the often pernicious influence of the lobby on policymaking. But, unfortunately, the study has aroused more criticism than debate – not only the kind of criticism one would anticipate from the usual suspects among the very lobby groups Mearsheimer and Walt described, but also from a group on the left that might have been expected to support the study’s conclusions.
The criticism has been partly silly, often malicious, and almost entirely off-point. The silly, insubstantial criticisms – such as former presidential adviser David Gergen’s earnest comment that through four administrations he never observed an Oval Office decision that tilted policy in favor of Israel at the expense of U.S. interests – can easily be dismissed as nonsensical . Most of the extensive malicious criticism, coming largely from the hard core of Israeli supporters who make up the very lobby under discussion and led by a hysterical Alan Dershowitz, has been so specious and sophomoric, that it too could be dismissed were it not for precisely the pervasive atmosphere of reflexive support for Israel and silenced debate that Mearsheimer and Walt describe.
Most disturbing and harder to dismiss is the criticism of the study from the left, coming chiefly from Noam Chomsky and Norman Finkelstein, and abetted less cogently by Stephen Zunes of Foreign Policy in Focus and Joseph Massad of Columbia University. These critics on the left argue from a assumption that U.S. foreign policy has been monolithic since World War II, a coherent progression of decision-making directed unerringly at the advancement of U.S. imperial interests. All U.S. actions, these critics contend, are part of a clearly laid-out strategy that has rarely deviated no matter what the party in power. They believe that Israel has served throughout as a loyal agent of the U.S., carrying out the U.S. design faithfully and serving as a base from which the U.S. projects its power around the Middle East. Zunes says it most clearly, affirming that Israel “still is very much the junior partner in the relationship.” These critics do not dispute the existence of a lobby, but they minimize its importance, claiming that rather than leading the U.S. into policies and foreign adventures that stand against true U.S. national interests, as Mearsheimer and Walt assert, the U.S. is actually the controlling power in the relationship with Israel and carries out a consistent policy, using Israel as its agent where possible.
Finkelstein summarized the critics’ position in a recent CounterPunch article (“The Israel Lobby,” May 1, http://www.counterpunch.org/finkelstein05012006.html), emphasizing that the issue is not whether U.S. interests or those of the lobby take precedence but rather that there has been such coincidence of U.S. and Israeli interests over the decades that for the most part basic U.S. Middle East policy has not been affected by the lobby. Chomsky maintains that Israel does the U.S. bidding in the Middle East in pursuit of imperial goals that Washington would pursue even without Israel and that it has always pursued in areas outside the Middle East without benefit of any lobby. Those goals have always included advancement of U.S. corporate-military interests and political domination through the suppression of radical nationalisms and the maintenance of stability in resource-rich countries, particularly oil producers, everywhere…
http://www.counterpunch.org
This is an interesting debate(It is making me re-think my position, which is similar to Finkelstein’s.)Check out this e-mail I got today.
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days of’In the abstract but not in the concrete,’ said Ursula. ‘When it comes
Anyone make sense of it?
Ah, I just got an e-mail from Jon Sinton, and I misinterpreted his e-mail. He wasn’t saying that that producing the Marc Show was a waste of money, he was saying that “Not airing his program nationally on our terrestrial network also wastes our investment.”W hich is what we all think as well.
Since I knew that Sinton has been a decent guy through all of this (and Maron’s #1 fan – not like Kathy Bates, I hope), that makes more sense. Let’s hope they get this thing rolling. And there’s even a possibility for AAR in Syracuse!
I thought it might have been just a poor choice of words. glad it’s so.
just had a shouting match with some chickenhawk kid at Chambliss’ office – twerp of a kid set me off and I was not very lady-like, as my mother would say. oh well. chambliss & Isakson only follow the party line anyway. smug a-holes. then i have the congressman who wants the 10 commandments plastered everywhere but he himself can’t remember more than three.
E-GADS!
AND why are we NOT hearing about the activist rethuglican judges who changed the 1914 “Knock & announce” rule? Wish the cops would enter Scalia’s (& alito’s & robers &..) home unnanounced and see how he likes it. :nod:
Monsoon hit Portland. Stopped. Briefly sunny.
I wish a storm of boulders and frogs would hit the homes of scalito etal. The 4 man strong gestapo bloc.
:fu::fu::fu::fu:
:jason:
Pardon Hinckley!
US Open
T81 31 Brad Fritsch +11
T95 43 Billy Horschel*(a) +12
T95 43 Michael Campbell* +12
T95 27 Tiger Woods* +12 F
T95 40 Bob Estes +12 F
T95 5 Tadahiro Takayama +12 F
T95 5 Tim Clark +12
T95 27 Davis Love, III* +12
T95 5 Jyoti Randhawa +12
T109 3 Dustin White +13 F
:omg:
What did he say, FK?
More Pigs at the Trough
Corporate Democrats
By RUSSELL MOKHIBER
and ROBERT WEISSMAN
If you wonder why things never change in Washington, look no further than a report released yesterday by Russ Baker’s Real News Project.
The report documents 25 corporate Democrats — corporate consultants with strong ties to the Democratic Party leadership inside the beltway.
“Although establishment Democrats are, by and large, still more skeptical of the corporate agenda than Republicans, they have become strikingly less so,” Baker writes. “This has led to the creation of a kind of permanent corporate governance structure that is truly bipartisan. Many of the firms employing Democratic operatives have them working side-by-side with Republicans — often the same Republicans they go up against in political campaigns. In some cases, a so-called conservative Republican and a so-called liberal Democrat are full partners in the same firm.”
Case in point: Jack Quinn.
Jack Quinn served as Vice President Gore’s Chief of Staff, and later as Counsel to President Clinton. Now he is a partner in a political consulting and lobbying firm with Republican insider Ed Gillespie — Quinn Gillespie — and together, “they have represented clients who want to drill in fragile areas of Alaska, put the screws to already beleaguered American creditors, and prevent the introduction of more healthy dairy substitutes in school lunches,” Baker writes…
Fathers’ Day Wishes from KPOJ!
He clapped with joy when you took your first steps, doctored your knees when you fell off your bike, walked you to the bus stop on the first day of school, and held you tight when the thunder boomed.
Stronger than any superhero, your dad could save the world, or at the very least, you.
KPOJ has some gift ideas that will scream ‘I love you, Dad.’
Give your dad a hand this year by decorating a plain T-shirt with brightly colored handprints. All you have to do is purchase several colors of fabric paint and a fabric marker, and then paint your heart out. Create fun phrases like ‘Hands Down: Worlds’ Best Dad’ and place your handprints all over it. Just allow the shirt to dry at least 24 hours prior to wrapping.
A cool thing for Dad this year is a booklet of coupons. But not just any coupons, fun coupons that he can trade for a free hug, a car wash, or even an ice cream date. Hallmark has posted ‘Dad’s Big Book of Super-Cool Coupons’ on its Web site free of charge. Just visit http://www.hallmark.com , print out the coupons in either color or black and white and bind the sides with yarn.
Go to Crayola’s Web site at http://www.crayola.com and print out fun activity pages made especially for Dad. Free to the public, these pictures are perfect for the coveted refrigerator space or Dad’s office.
Does Dad like to eat? Skip the ribbon and the wrapping, and say ‘Thanks Dad’ with a personalized meal, made by you! Make his favorite meal with all the trimmings including dessert. Be sure to have Dad’s favorite beverage on hand whether it be sweet iced tea, a brewsky or a fine red wine.
If you are really short on time, get Dad a special Father’s Day greeting card and an assortment of candy. Don’t forget to personalize the card with a loving line of thanks, then give Dad an assortment candies or a simple candy bar!
Of all the gifts you could possibly give your dad on his special day, the one topping the list is spending quality time with him. Take him around town and visit the sights. Treat him to a meal at his favorite restaurant or go see a movie he’s been wanting to see. Celebrating Father’s Day with your dad is an irreplaceable gift. After all, he deserves it. Not every superhero has his very own day.
isi, he said, “what do you want the Senator to do? He voted against “cutting & running.” :barf:
I said, THAT is not the choice and you doggon know it. The Senator has a duty to discuss the Iraq options intelligently. Then I asked the kid if HE had a spouse in Iraq. He said that wasn’t relevant. I asked him how old he was and why doesn’t he join up to go over. He said that wasn’t relevant. So I called him a chickenhawk and hung up after saying what the Senator did was “bull shit, pardon my French.”
:fu:Just another day.
just had a shouting match with some chickenhawk kid at Chambliss’ office – twerp of a kid set me off and I was not very lady-like, as my mother would say. oh well. chambliss & Isakson only follow the party line anyway. smug a-holes.
Comment by Farmerkat — June 16, 2006 @ 3:58 pm
A twerp AND a chickenhawk. Sounds like the kid found his perfect employer in Chambliss. Someone who can Swiftboat a hero like Max Cleland and still sleep at night is beneath contempt.
:fu::fu::fu:
you know, that says it all, kevin…
Well, here’s where I think I’ll head for this weekend. Shame I can’t take the dog with me.
Well, plus, anybody who’s so ashamed of being named Clarence that they go by “Saxby” has definitely got a screw loose someplace. Not that I should talk, I s’pose.
Police find 2 bodies, 3 heads at car crash scene
Cops learn of earlier death after severed head hits road during accident
Updated: 8:23 a.m. MT June 16, 2006
BOISE, Idaho – A man transporting his wife’s severed head in a pickup truck crashed into an oncoming car, killing a woman and her 4-year-old daughter, police said. The impact sent the head flying onto the road.
A Boise police officer was driving behind Alofa Time’s truck on a busy road when he noticed the man’s erratic driving and then watched him slam into the car, police spokeswoman Lynn Hightower said.
Time, 51, who was not injured, told officers he was involved in his wife’s death, investigators said.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13352320/
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The article didn’t say what political affiliation the guy with his wifes head in his truck was but I can guess.:yuck::barf::eek:
yay, air conditioning was working today at work!
Holy crap! Someone screwed up and booked a Democrat on Meet The Pus this week! Whoever booked the show is sure to be fired once Timmy Potato Head finds out. :no:
Seriously, it’s John Murtha. The other half of the show is a discussion with the heads of three major oil companies, which should quickly steer things back to the right.
In an even MORE unusual development, someone at the CBS website actually updated the schedule for Deface the Nation! That’s the extent of the excitement, though, as guests will be Lindsay “It is NOT a girl’s name” Graham, Joe “I grovel for the insurance industry” Biden, and White House spokesliar Crony McSnowjob.
Yes, I stole that last one from Stephanie Miller, and if she has a problem with that, she’s welcome to come over and :spank: me this weekend. Hurt me, Mama, I’ve been bad. :hubba:
Recommended viewing this Sunday morning is at ABC. Snuffleupagus is being bumped to make way for World Cup action. By then, the US should be out of the running unless they pull off a HUGE upset Saturday against Italy. I’ll be watching, at least for a while.
Well, plus, anybody who’s so ashamed of being named Clarence that they go by “Saxby” has definitely got a screw loose someplace. Not that I should talk, I s’pose.
Comment by pjsauter — June 16, 2006 @ 5:54 pm
Friday fun fact: Bill Nelson’s real first name is also Clarence. But in his case, use of the middle name is more understandable.
Not to mention that being a senator makes him a Bill on Capitol Hill!
:rofl2:
I’m sorry, I had to do it.:lol:
The people in charge of the World cup hopefully put in air defenses .. The US can’t afford to lose these wars you know.
:banana:
-FK
Timmy Potato head better be careful if he tries to embarrass Murtha they may find him with cleat marks all over his body..
By MARTIN CRUTSINGER
The Associated Press
Friday, June 16, 2006; 2:18 PM
WASHINGTON — The deficit in the broadest measure of foreign trade narrowed sharply in the first three months of this year after setting an all-time high at the end of 2005.
America’s current account trade deficit fell to $208.7 billion in the January-March quarter, down 6.5 percent from a record $223.1 billion deficit set in the final three months of last year, the Commerce Department reported Friday.
The improvement exceeded expectations although it still left the quarterly deficit at the second highest level on record and the equivalent of 6.4 percent of the total U.S. economy, down from 7 percent in the fourth quarter.
http://tinyurl.com/g57qb
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Like 200 billion x 4 = 800 billion . The previous record was a mere 790 billion so how is this an improvement. ??
A balance of payments deficit of 6% of GDP would prohibit the US from getting a loan from the world bank..
Randi called Lynn Westmoreland a She… :rofl2:
Lynn & Clarence = no wonder it’s so messed up ’round these parts.
pj, that looks like a great place to hike!
WASHINGTON (AP) — A grand jury declined to indict Rep. Cynthia McKinney on Friday in connection with an incident in which she admitted hitting a police officer who tried to stop her from entering a House office building.
http://www.wtol.com/Global/story.asp?S=5041934
Why can’t Janeane do TMR?
Tyger Thom!:omg:
People either like Hartman or he works cheap one or the other.. I think Maddcow said he was subbing for her next week
I would prefer Tyger Thom to rachel anyday or night. Mornings too.:omg:
anybody seems to be better than Rachel lately 🙁 😮
Hey I got another cassette in the mail 🙂
Interesting…Thom Hartmann is talking about various interpretations of five-pointed stars and how Republicans have upside down stars…
I heard Paul Hackett say that he was not getting paid for substituting for Springer.
Hartmann does have a mystical bent.
AAR getting cheap???? He shouldn’t have to volunteer
I’ll bet there is some sort of compensation for the substitute radio hosts at AAAR.
I thought I heard JG a couple of weeks ago say that AAR had not given her a new contract.
Here we go again?
Thom Hartmann isn’t bad tonight. I could have missed his founding father speech though, but he sounds pretty good
I’ll bet she has ownership options, or something.
Hey, I’m home.:40::cake::bong::billcat:
nternet – “Bush hid the facts” A little Chinese joke here, disclosed by the Dutch website GeenStijl. They told to write “Bush hit the facts” at the …
http://www.chinaherald.net/2006/06/ internet-bush-hid-facts-little-chinese.html – 38k – Jun 15, 2006 – Cached – Similar pages
Wow! I just tried that notepad trick and it works. I’ve never seen that. Maybe it was included in an update by a left leaning MS programmer.
hey Krista
Corporations are the embodiment of the biggest crime against democracy. Private tyrannies. They have an inestimable hold over our “democracy”.
Did you hear Springer say that he would like to see Bill Gates run for president?:omg:
Talk about sociopaths. No thanks, Jerry. Don’t give that creep any ideas.
“It’s not the massive conspiracy it might seem, though. The folks at WinCustomize.com discovered an odd bug in Notepad that’s triggered by a text file consisting of a four-letter word, two three-letter words, and a five letter word. Some text does it — “this app can break” is their example — some doesn’t.
If Microsoft can’t keep strange bugs out of Windows’ simplest application, we’d better get used to the monthly security patch cycle.”
Hmm. That was on the same show where Jerry said our government is taking over…seemed like a lucid moment for him. Bill Gates? I guess he slips in and out of consciousness :doh:
The Gates plug was a coherent statement.
Okay guys, it looks like internet neutrality is the next big issue. This could really fuck us up, you know. As a struggling artist, it would be my doom if I didn’t have the access to the internet that i have now. We MUST keep the internet free. It’s our last hope! 😯 Call your senators!:rant1:
I’m worried about that issue also, Krista…I think Josh Marshall is keeping a tally of senators who are pro/against Internet neutrality, which, whatever anyone thinks of his blog, is a good thing (www.talkingpointsmemo.com)
I almost burst into tears when I talked to my senators’ secretaries. I mean, if i am limited in this way then forget about it. Just fucking forget about it.
:fustrate::growl:
of course this blog is toast if that issue goes the wrong way 🙁
I know what you mean…I’m an artist also 👿
That is the American political system: Political power is a commodity.
Who will benefit if these internet changes go through?
Take your country, people. The time is here for revolution.:omg:
When they kick at your front door
How you gonna come?
With your hands on your head
Or on the trigger of your gun
When the law break in
How you gonna go?
Shot down on the pavement
Or waiting on death row
Why are you taking the cop side, Bill Crowley?
I’m totally with you on that, Nicki
Hey. The internet must be subject to the iron law of economics. Tough love, you know.
both of my senators are on the right side of THIS issue, at least.
I see I am whistling in the dark….
oh, I’m sorry, Schumer has not “come out” with a position at all yet…ok, he’s getting a call from me :omg:
Here’s the whole list, by the way
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/net-neutrality.php
Net neutrality would prohibit all of this. Telecoms could make money the way they always have–by charging homes and businesses for an Internet connection–but they couldn’t make money from the content providers themselves. That is a perfectly reasonable proposition, and it has won support from Amazon and eBay, as well as the Christian Coalition and MoveOn.org. But the big cable and phone companies, backed by the Competitive Enterprise Institute, Grover Norquist’s Americans for Tax Reform, and a host of well-heeled lobbyists–including former Clinton Press Secretary Mike McCurry–have adamantly resisted net neutrality. Last week, they defeated a House measure, sponsored by Representative Ed Markey, to bar discrimination on the Internet. The battle now moves to the Senate, where Olympia Snowe and Byron Dorgan are putting forward a similar proposal.
Opponents of net neutrality claim that telecoms need the extra money from surcharges and exclusive deals to fund new investments in cable and DSL. But the companies can still make money by charging homes and businesses higher fees for faster or more dependable services. Opponents also claim that, if consumers don’t like what they are getting from one Internet service provider, they can simply switch. “If one broadband provider slowed access to fringe bloggers,” The Washington Post opined, “the provider would lose customers.” But, with the industry dominated by a handful of companies, the typical American has a choice of only two providers. And changing services often means losing an e-mail address and facing new connection charges.
Most important, as Stanford Law Professor Lawrence Lessig has argued, the Internet is not only a tool for economic growth, it is also a public commons for the exchange of ideas. It is where Americans can not only search for the best deal on a new digital camera, but also debate the country’s future. Unlike the telephone, it is a medium in which thousands, even millions, of people can participate in the same discussion at the same time. Unlike television, it is interactive. But it can’t function optimally if content is prioritized or filtered by telecom companies. Allowing companies to levy a toll on information providers is not just a blow to consumer choice–it’s a blow to democracy.
Hey, fringe bloggers!
:fu:
Wow, good article …
Smart Balance® 67% Buttery Spread
This delicious spread is ideal for cooking, baking and table use. It contains no hydrogenated oil, no trans fatty acids and a precisely balanced oil blend to help balance fats in your diet. It also provides a favorable ratio of Omega-6 to Omega 3 fatty acids we call, Omega Balance.
hmmm… :omg:
ok, they’re all scared off now… 😯
Hey. Those welfare sorts need the tough love, Mike. You know that yourself.
I grew up rooting for the late 1960’s yankees – ross moschitto, horace clarke, roger repoz, etc [note to non-baseball fans -these are really, really bad baseball players].
I get deja vue when i hear these Dems talking in the house or senate on cspan- i could pick a kid at random out of any sophomore polysci class in any college who can better present the overwhelming case against the bush war party – its excruciating to be ‘represented’ by these incompetents. How did these worthless turds get their jobs?
Never mind; I withdraw the question.
I take it you don’t mean Mike Malloy… :omg:
:spank:
Oooh. Not again!:omg:
hey, I didn’t mean to post that…it just happened…:omg:
:rofl2::love:
Rough style!
guess this is not going to be a mellow night… :tongue:
Doesn’t that smart balance guy sound like he had a stroke?
it’s a bad commercial…
If you were Karl Rove, could you improve on AAR’s current lineup?
If I was Karl Rove, AAR wouldn’t have a lineup…
I like the Smart Balance commercial. Has a folksy quality.
Smart Balance® 37% Light Buttery Spread
This delicious light spread contains similar health benefits as the regular spread but, being lower in fat and calories, can only be used for light frying, sautéing and table use. It is not recommended for baking. You can be sure the fats are balanced.
well maybe if you read the commercial … :nod:
Get a wallop in every dollop!
I like amateurish, “bad” commercials sometimes.
I used to hate the Shane Company’s commercials. Now I find them fairly entertaining.
I know the kind you mean, like when the DJ reads the commercial or it’s for a local business and they can’t afford really heavy advertising, it seems more sincere and less pretentious and slick somehow
You must really miss Tom Carvel.
Yes. “Plant a tree today for all the world to see.”
Fudgie the Whale!!!!
ever notice how carvel’s are run by immigrant families, like vietnamese, and the whole family’s there making cones? must be a murderously small profit margin.
actually I don’t like most commercials at all. Some of them catch my interest if they’re catchy or funny and not really phony-sounding, or have a good tune, but otherwise, no
I dunno…but the first Carvel store was right here in Hartsdale, New York, (along with the first pet cemetary in the United States) … I never go in there, though because I can’t really eat ice cream…I believe you about the immigrants, though
Did I say that??…because I surely was thinking it…often….
Who actually said it? Was it Krista? Marc Maron?….Me?….
I believe my son said the equivalent today re: his absent father….so, happy father’s day dad, wherever you are….
(I actually did send him FUBAR for father’s day…)
bumpersticker=good idea.
”’Fudgie the Whale”’ is a versatile ice cream cake shape developed by Carvel .
Although the cake is in the shape of a whale and was originally decorated as such, over the years the shape was adapted for holiday uses. The Easter Bunny could be depicted by using the whale’s body as the face and the tail decorated to be his ears. Other characters, like leprechauns and Santa Claus were depicted in much the same way.
Hartsdale is an unincorporated census-designated place (CDP) located in the town of Greenburgh, Westchester County, New York. The population was 9,830 at the 2000 census.
Yup, that was the versatile Fudgie… hey Melina
Tom Carvel
Thomas A. Carvelas, also known as Tom Carvel (July 14, 1906 – October 21, 1990) was a Greek-born American businessman known for the invention and promotion of soft ice cream in the northeastern United States. He is the founder of the Carvel brand and franchise, and often considered the father of modern franchising in the United States.
Carvel began selling ice cream in Hartsdale, New York in 1929, out of his truck. When it broke down in a parking lot, he decided not to repair it, as his business had become even more successful than it was previously; he was soon able to buy the business off whose property he was operating.
Carvel developed new refrigeration machines and sold his designs. After World War II, he began to franchise his ice cream stores.
“My father can go fuck himself”
I suppose its theoretically possible to spin the sentiment of “go fuck yourself” into something positive. We’re in the era of up is down, black is white, and war is peace, so why not? Happy father’s day, you rotten old bastard. Makes great commercial sense.
As for bad commercials, I personally would buy anything that was endorsed by Pendejo.
well I live near that pet cemetary… it’s really pretty actually :omg:
2004
2004 FOCUS Brands is created; Carvel joins Cinnabon and Seattle’s Best Coffee International to form new food service company
Its really been six months? — what an outrage. And admit it, without Reilly, its not the same. Its like the short-lived Jerry Lewis show in the 60’s – for the first few shows, he ran amuck every night, knocking over the cameras, eating the microphone, acting like a lunatic – There was no change of pace, and the show self-destructed. –
Maron’s got no straightman, and Earl clearly isn’t the answer – Reilly was perfect, and bits like Sammy and Angus just aren’t as funny. How much of a moron do you have to be to become a radio exec?
1956
Introduces the first ice cream supermarket on the site of original Hartsdale, NY store
1991
Relocates to Farmington, Connecticut
(It figures.)
well I do like the Marc show… it took some getting used to, but I’m pretty into it now…
It’s on Central Park Avenue (locals call it “Central Avenue”) next to Barnes and Nobles 🙂 I think that’s the store.
Hartsdale, a CDP/hamlet/village/post-office in the town of Greenburgh, NY, lies on the Bronx River just 20 miles north of New York City. It is served by the Metro North Harlem River commuter rail line into Grand Central Station. Hartsdale is the home of America’s first Canine/Pet Cemetery (started by veterinarian Samuel Johnson in 1896), and the world’s first Carvel Ice Cream store (1934).
Hartsdale’s earliest settlers were the Weekquaeskeeks, a sub-tribe of the Algonquin Indians. Weekquaeskeek is an Algonquin term believed to mean “place of the bark kettle”, and this kettle appears in the Greenburgh town seal today.
After the earliest British colonialists arrived, the area was developed under the Manor system when Frederick Philipse, a British Loyalist, was “given” the land by the British government. As Lord of his Philipse Manor, he leased his land to tenant farmers who, for a time, were believed to have lived alongside their Native American neighbors.
There is evidence to show that Hartsdale played quite a role during the Revolutionary War, some of which still stands today. On October 28th, 1776, a Revolutionary War battle was fought alongside the Bronx River, near the site of the current Hartsdale train station. The Odell House (on Ridge Road, built in 1732) served as the headquarters for the French General the Comte de Rochambeau, and is where the Comte and George Washington are supposed to have formed an alliance in the Battle of Yorktown. The house was later named after John Odell, Washington’s guide who bought the house in 1785. In 1965, his descendents deeded the house to the Sons of the American Revolution, and today the house is a museum.
The intersection of Central Park Avenue and Hartsdale Avenue was named “Hart’s Corners” after John Hart,a farmers, and in the mid 1800s the entire area became known as “Hartsdale”.
:omg:
Fort Myers!
In the Sunshine State.
good old Wikipedia 🙂 Almost as much fun as Google maps
OK. Payback is a bitch!:omg::smack:
Ft. myers – I did understand the reference
I’m listening to that tape now 🙂
Molly Bloom. I heard someone read Molly Bloom’s soliloquy. Terrific!:omg:
…I was a Flower of the mountain yes when I put the rose in my hair like the Andalusian girls used or shall I wear a red yes and how he kissed me under the Moorish wall and I thought well as well him as another and then I asked him with my eyes to ask again yes and then he asked me would I yes to say yes my mountain flower and first I put my arms around him yes and drew him down to me so he could feel my breasts all perfume yes and his heart was going like mad and yes I said yes I will Yes. “
sexy 🙂
Fort Myers, Florida
Nickname: “City of Palms”
Interesting facts about Fort Myers:
* The first known resident of Fort Myers was Manuel Gonzalez, a Cuban immigrant who settled there in the 19th century.
* Fort Myers Senior High School, an International Baccalaureate school, was ranked as one of the best schools in the nation by Newsweek magazine.
* American Idol runner-up Vonzell Solomon graduated from Cypress Lake High School’s Center for the Arts.
* In the premier episode of the final season of The Sopranos, Eugene Pontecorvo inherits $2 million from a relative and asks Tony Soprano if he can take the money and buy a retirement home in Fort Myers.
* The Electric Warrior is believed to have lived in Fort Myers in the 1990s.
yep…on the way to L.A. somehow ended up in FLA… :peace:
Like Bloom, Molly is a Dublin outsider. She was raised in the military atmosphere of Gibraltar by her father, Major Brian Tweedy. Molly never knew her mother, who was possibly Jewish, or just Jewish-lo-oking. Bloom associates Molly with the “hot-blooded” Mediterranean regions, and, to a lesser degree, the exoticism of the East. Yet Molly considers her own childhood to have been normal, outside the dramatic entrances and exits of young, good-looking soldiers going off to war. Molly seems to organize her life around men and to have very few female friends. She enjoys being looked at and gains self-esteem from the admiration of men. Molly is extremely self-aware and perceptive—she knows without looking when she is being looked at. A man’s admiration of her does not cloud her own negative judgments about him. She is frank about topics that other people are likely to sentimentalize—intimacy, mourning, and motherhood, for example. She is also frank about the extent to which living involves adaptations of different roles. Her sense of this truth—which is perhaps related to her own career as a stage singer—aligns her with Stephen, who is also conscious of his outward existence in terms of a series of roles. Molly and Stephen both share a capacity for storytelling, scene-setting, and mimicry. Molly’s storytelling and frankness about role-playing evinces her sense of humor, and it also mediates our sense of her as a hypocritical character. Finally, it is this pragmatic and fluid adoption of roles that enables Molly to reconnect with Bloom through vivid recollections, and, indeed, reenactments, of the past, as in her final memory of the Howth scene at the end of Ulysses.
Ever look at a map of Highway 10?
neat – great character
Highway 10? is that the road that goes from New ORleans to Texas … I’m not sure
Yes. It does end up in SoCal. Mythmaking on the part of the warrior.
yeah, that’s the one…it goes from west to east (or east to west) along the south…
Malloy is a literary critic. Ulysses. I had a hard time with it. I like to hear it on tape.
yep. Speaking of myth making, I plan on further developing this NJ thing…
James Joyce takes some getting used to. THe first time I read it I couldn’t handle it (but that was in college). After reading it again I started to like it.
I should have said fictionalizing. Hey. There are facts on the ground in NJ.
I have gotten submissions to issue 16 already.
I only read it once–2 years ago. Centennial, or something. I love Samuel Beckett. He was sort of my portal to Joyce. Endgame. Ever see Endgame?
that’s great! We’re going to have a lot of stuff for some time, then 🙂
Goes right by Lake Ponchatrain.
no…
It is much easier composing it when there are outside submissions.
this last NW you sent me is extremely creative, I love the “paste-ups” The way you cute and paste all those phrases. Pretty cool
Do you know what I am referring to? Endgame.
of course.
Endgame
Clov goes and stands under window left. Stiff, staggering walk. He looks up at window left. He turns and looks at window right. He goes and stands under window right. He looks up at window right. He turns and looks at window left. He goes out, comes back immediately with a small step-ladder, carries it over and sets it down under window left, gets up on it, draws back curtain. He gets down, takes six steps (for example) towards window right, goes back for ladder, carries it over and sets it down under window right, gets up on it, draws back curtain. He gets down, takes three steps towards window left, goes back for ladder, carries it over and sets it down under window left, gets up on it, looks out of window. Brief laugh. He gets down, takes one step towards window right, goes back for ladder, carries it over and sets it down under window right, gets up on it, looks out of window. Brief laugh. He gets down, goes with ladder towards ashbins, halts, turns, carries back ladder and sets it down under window right, goes to ashbins, removes sheet covering them, folds it over his arm. He raises one lid, stoops and looks into bin. Brief laugh. He closes lid. Same with other bin. He goes to Hamm, removes sheet covering him, folds it over his arm. In a dressing-gown, a stiff toque on his head, a large blood-stained handkerchief over his face, a whistle hanging from his neck, a rug over his knees, thick socks on his feet, Hamm seems to be asleep. Clov looks him over. Brief laugh. He goes to door, halts, turns towards auditorium.
the movie?
ok, Beckett. I feel like a clunkhead :doh:
CLOV (fixed gaze, tonelessly):
Finished, it’s finished, nearly finished, it must be nearly finished.
(Pause.)
Grain upon grain, one by one, and one day, suddenly, there’s a heap, a little heap, the impossible heap.
(Pause.)
I can’t be punished any more.
(Pause.)
I’ll go now to my kitchen, ten feet by ten feet by ten feet, and wait for him to whistle me.
(Pause.)
Nice dimensions, nice proportions, I’ll lean on the table, and look at the wall, and wait for him to whistle me.
(He remains a moment motionless, then goes out. He comes back immediately, goes to window right, takes up the ladder and carries it out. Pause. Hamm stirs. He yawns under the handkerchief. He removes the handkerchief from his face. Very red face. Glasses with black lenses.)
HAMM:
Me—
(he yawns)
—to play.
(He takes off his glasses, wipes his eyes, his face, the glasses, puts them on again, folds the handkerchief and puts it back neatly in the breast pocket of his dressing gown. He clears his throat, joins the tips of his fingers.)
Can there be misery—
(he yawns)
—loftier than mine? No doubt. Formerly. But now?
(Pause.)
My father?
(Pause.)
My mother?
(Pause.)
My… dog?
(Pause.)
Oh I am willing to believe they suffer as much as such creatures can suffer. But does that mean their sufferings equal mine? No doubt.
(Pause.)
No, all is a—
(he yawns)
—bsolute,
(proudly)
the bigger a man is the fuller he is.
(Pause. Gloomily.)
And the emptier.
(He sniffs.)
Clov!
(Pause.)
No, alone.
(Pause.)
What dreams! Those forests!
(Pause.)
Enough, it’s time it ended, in the shelter, too.
(Pause.)
And yet I hesitate, I hesitate to… to end. Yes, there it is, it’s time it ended and yet I hesitate to—
(He yawns.)
—to end.
(Yawns.)
God, I’m tired, I’d be better off in bed.
(He whistles. Enter Clov immediately. He halts beside the chair.)
You pollute the air!
(Pause.)
Get me ready, I’m going to bed.
CLOV:
I’ve just got you up.
HAMM:
And what of it?
I have read critiques that claim that Hamm was modelled after Joyce. The production I saw made me think that. He was dressed as a bishop.
not really familiar with that….:(
What are you going to do when you catch me?:omg:
looks like interesting dialogue…you’re reminding me of the acting classes I once took 🙂
Familiar with what?
I have a performance of Endgame on video. I’ll send you a copy.
the dialogue you just posted
well somehow I was introduced to Joyce in the two literary classes I had to take in art school, perhaps I didn’t get enough of the good stuff though
hehe, I recorded a dialogue about chocolate (in my Bronx accent, but for some reason everybody loves it) and have it on the computer, I’ve been trying to find a way to post it to my website but I haven’t been able to yet !
Endgame is a one-act play. I have two or three copies. Slim volume. I’ll bet that White Plains has a copy.
actually monologue, sorry, it’s just me!
In your natural accent? Or is the Bronx brogue your schtick?
sorry, the blog froze me for a sec…
no, the Bronx accent is my real accent. Not a shtick
I mean it’s not like Fran Drescher, that’s an exaggeration, but apparently when I say the word “chocolate” I give myself away 😮
Shit! I only have one copy of Endgame. Oh well. Grove Press edition. I have multiple copies of Waiting for Godot.
hehe, did you notice I’m “Suzie Joy” and not “Susan Joy” now? I had to log on on my other browser…apparently the other one quit working
Do you ever hear Michael from the Bronx call in to Malloy’s show?
I think so, yeah. He’s a pretty smart guy if it’s the one I’m thinking of
Pincer movement. You post twice as much as anybody here anyway?
Oh! I can e mail this to you if you want to hear my voice!
I’m very quietly taking over the blog…soon the world will be mine :hubba:
Michael is savvy. He is good at recounting the recent news. Tells bad jokes that are sometimes funny.
What do you think, bronx brogue babe?
yeah, I think I know who he is
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:yawn:
alright, check your e mail in like a minute, just sent you my famous chocolate.wav 🙂
Hey SBlue
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yo
Is this guy for real? I think he is one of those strange comedy acts. ala Bruce Cherry. Not for real. Boring drivel.
read your myspace mail
that IS you. the face matches the voice on the tape matches the pictures – exactly
Yes. Those pictures I sent. Do I at all resemble Louise Bryant?
who? Oh see, you have to stop playing those games with me
Denise Levertov, one of the twentieth-century’s foremost American poets, was born in Ilford, Essex, England, in 1923. She was privately educated and served as a nurse in London during World War II. She emigrated to America in 1948 after she married Mitchell Goodman. They had one son Nikolai Goodman who is an artist and writer.
Levertov lived in Somerville, Massachusetts, for a number of years while teaching at Brandeis, MIT, and Tufts. She moved to Seattle in 1989 and settled close to Lake Washington in the shadow of Mt. Rainier. She taught part-time at the University of Washington and continued as a full professor at Stanford University for the first quarter of each year as she had been doing since 1982. She brought her own distinctive spirit and goals to the English Department, especially to her students in the Creative Writing program. After her retirement from Stanford in 1993, she did several benefits and poetry readings a year in both the United States and Europe
Louise Bryant’s image is the myspace picture.
but you’re the guy in the photographs, the ones you sent me in the mail, right?
:spank: answer me
Yes! The same as the person in the film.
He said “corrupted”.
This guest is naive.
:love:
:omg::omg:Can you see the Real Me?:omg:
When did you view the film?
the documentary? It’s at the end of the first NR video you sent me. I watched it as soon as you sent it to me. You’re the only person interviewed where there’s no name attached, so that was a pretty big giveaway. Also, you said there were clips of you in that so I was looking for it 😀
of course when I heard your voice on that first cassette (when you were in the radio station) it matched the voice in the video, so that confirmed it
I don’t know why I did not attach the name.
trying to be mysterious 😉
So, you see I was not trying to deceive you. I had already blown myself out of the water. (So. Do you think I am a geek?)
Were you ever worried that I was grotesque?:ear:
a geek? You? no, an artist 🙂
oh god no! I knew you weren’t.
did you hear the second sound file I sent you, the one where I did Galadriel? 🙂
Any resemblance to the image on myspace?
I heard it. I noted that if I had not heard the chocolate paean, I would not have thought it an exaggeration.
there really aren’t people who talk with an accent that exaggerated…at least I’ve never met any!
Maron and gang are such naive liberals. “Shameful!”
no, I don’t think you look like the My Space image
I missed the whole Marc Maron show!!! :omg:
It did not sound exaggerated. Slightly enhanced. Dramatic effect. Ok. I don’t hang around NYers much.
I think I copied Marisa Tomei’s voice in “My Cousin Vinny” for that voice, even though that’s supposed to be a Brooklyn accent. I really loved her performance in that, it was the funniest NY accent exaggeration I ever heard
No resemblance?
I knew that was exaggerated. But it was effective in that movie.
LOL the chocolate one is completely natural. I don’t notice my accent in that, but I sent it to people all over the U.S. and boy did they notice it! When I took acting lessons I was told to get some speech lessons or I’d have to do “New York accent” characters forever
well let’s see, completely different shaped face…eyes, nope…hair style, not really….so I dunno, do you see a resemblance?
I thought it was New Jersey. So,do people discern accents form all of the burroughs.
Brooklyn: Randi Rhodes, Bugs Bunny
Bronx: SJ
Manhattan: ?
I know in Germany that there are people who can detect differences in accents between villages only a few km away.
Maybe I am vain. Bryant is beautiful…:omg:I am grotesque!
well I can usually tell a Brooklyn or Queens accent very easily, and it’s completely different from a Bronx accent, but people from outside of tne NY metro have told me they can’t ell
Whaaa…oh stop it!!! The picture is pretty cool, but it’s got nothing on the real you!
I am not hung up on accents. I worked in improv for years. We always worked on our natural side. No styling. Your accent is very poetic. Reminds me of Denise Levertov.
Manhattan accent is more generic, less pronounced, more “sophisticated” I guess….or yuppie as I like to call it…
Queens: Archie Bunker. I like New York accents.
thank you. I do like my own voice and accent. Kind of get upset when people make fun of it (as happens sometimes)
then there are some Jersey accents that are really cool…I admit I picked up some Jerseyisms from my friend Judy (and because I hung around that area so often in the 90’s when I was with the pagan church) …”youse guys” instead of “you guys,” some other northern urban NJ terms…
People in NY make fun of it?
not so much people in NY but from other places – upstate NY even…
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night all
oh yeah, some prissy Manhattan types will make fun of people from “the boroughs” sometimes…. that hasn’t happened to me in a long time, though
I have to work for exactly an hour and a half with a five year old tomorrow morning 😮
I have to work a damn blues festival tomorrow.
How ridiculous. Can you detect a “west coast” accent?
I really don’t know too many west coast people…I have heard that people from California say certain words a bit differently, but that’s about it… I didn’t get much of an accent from hearing your voice (the little I heard of it)
That is about it. Minor pronunciations. Maybe adjustments. People from Canada would comment that we said “warsh” for wash. Warsh your hands. It is all relative . I know the south accent can be thick. But why is the bland the norm?
I was told by someone who was a communications major that the “bland” broadcasting accent accepted as “American generic” is from Ohio, of all places. I have a friend from Ohio and he does sound the way televsion people tend to talk
O’Reiley is from NY. Did you know that Bill O’Reiley had been a news show host in Portland in the 1980s? KATU channel 2.
no…yeah, I heard he was from Long Island. I really wish he was from some other place.
True. I studied linguistics. Was told the same. We on the west coast have caught that Ohio bland bug. But why is that the standard.
egads, lucky you….what was he doing in Portland, I wonder…
I don’t know, I’m willing to bet it’s more or less random. Although maybe there are reasons I don’t know
News broadcaster. He was not that bad. He found his niche as a right wing, power sucking populist at Fox.
Ugh, he’s disgusting. Every time I hear a clip of him I want to puke. He’s like Ann Coulter, a paid whore
The King’s english. Hey. I am not hung up on accents. People do adjust. Will the regions in the US ever evolve into different languages. I used to read that in 200 years, England and the US will speak different languages.
going to sleep for a couple of hours. I think I have to be at work at 9, jeez Louise!
well I’m glad you like my accent 🙂
Levittown, Long Island.
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Joe Lieberman sounds like a dipschitz…
the blog’s screwed up. #342 is june 17 4:11 am and #343 is today june 21 at 7:37 pm. pj will fix it i’m sure.
Pardon Hinckley!:omg:
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Hehe. I’m running back and forth between days on this blog. Very funny. :omg: Hey! I did it by accident earlier, honest!
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