Hey, it’s Saturday. Supposed to be some nasty weather here today, so I don’t know what I’ll wind up doing. Might just hang out and do nothing. Not exciting, but pretty cheap. Maybe I’ll see if I can fill up AAR’s voicemail. At least I can think about getting through the next six days or so, and then being in my own bed by this time next week. Have a good Saturday.
Afternoon thunder showers here put me to sleep.
:yinyang: I heard most of the MMS, but was out by the end.
Happy weekend!
:doh::doh::doh::tinfoil::mrgreen::omg:
Whasss up ??
Hey fred! :banana:
The summer is insanely busy. I’m getting material ready for it. I’m also trying to make sure I get my absentee ballot this fall.
:yawn::yawn::joe::joe::omg:
This Saturday seems to be a no news day.. for a change.. I see where Oregon and Washington states have a high heat watch today.. might be hotter than Phoenix.
Yea, King Kong and Fred 1 & 2
:banana::banana:
ARREST!
IMPEACH! (format by KevinM)
VIGILANCE!
Do you see snow capped peaks? Or are you swimming in runoff? :tongue:
i went to wal-mart last night bought syriana!:banana:
Thanks, Druid. Was it really gypsy’s B’Day?
:cake:
some dumb bitch on myspace posted this i think she is getting deleted from my friends list!
disclaimer: this is posted to show how evil and racist some stupid white kids are this was posted by http://www.myspace.com/giraffechicken as a bulletin on myspace
What if Niggers left America?
a posting on the General Discussion (formerly Ask Guan) forum
Most Locksmiths would go out of business.
Police departments would have to lay off 90% of their staff.
Most Prison guards would be out of work and contractors who build prisons would go bankrupt.
Burglar alarm companies would go broke.
Companies which train and furnish guard dogs for businesses would fold.
Firms which manufacture mace, pepper spray and stun guns would disappear.
Security firms which patrol neighborhoods would be wiped out.
Rape counselors would be out of work.
Welfare offices would lay off most of their staff.
Colleges and universities would lose half their funding because of affirmative action guidelines in admissions.
Repo men would have to seek new work.
Criminal defense lawyers would soon be out of clients and most courtrooms shut down for lack of cases on the docket.
I see no snow at all.. but then I am 1200 miles from the Pacific ocean.. Generally the weather moves from west to east so we have something to look forward to.It was already 101 one day this month.:omg::yuck::joe::joe::eek:
King Kong :nod: A Cancer on the cusp :banana:
Gypsy = :cake: :banana:
:banana:hey its a gypsy b-day!:cake:
SeanMS re 10 😮 :growl: Hey #10 person :sammy:
ARREST!
IMPEACH! (format by KevinM)
VIGILANCE!
Druid, she has fed me, and frend, very well with her recipies. Some are to “western/American” to make. Butmany translate very well.
Your b’day is near?
Number 10 would also apply if all republicans left America :!::!::omg::roll: 🙁
hey fred ALSO apply?:rant1:
Fred, Where I use to live (coastal mountains) it is also 104 now :eek:, so AGAIN, “You’re a better man than I, Gunga Din but now “I am in town now” (snapping in a Z). 😉
ARREST!
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VIGILANCE!
C-span has a house committee interviewing some PI in Denver about how they find out about you.. I think I will get his company address, then use Google maps to see if there is some place near his office to park a Ryder truck.:mad::gate::omg::jason:
Was #10 written 50 years ago? 😳 How sad people can STILL think like that. 😥
fred :rofl2::banana::banana::banana::rofl2:
ARREST!
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my company has an account with ryder!:banana:
This PI must be a thug.. Round face, beady eyes, bald head..No big loss..:eek::yuck::barf:
I was thinking about that and.. actually renting a 30 foot trailer would be much cheaper and its harder to identify the peaces.:roll::yuck::eek::hubba::hubba:
King Kong, Yes, and many say racism is dead. :growl:
ARREST!
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VIGILANCE!
“thug” came up today in class about words from other languages.
ORIGIN early 19th cent. : from Hindi ?hag ‘swindler, thief,’ based on Sanskrit sthagati ‘he covers or conceals.’
😎 today’s lesson
ok well im gonna go play half life 2 now!
Last week Ring of Fire was talking about how voter disfranchisement in the South was still wide spread and getting worse under the Bushseviks because their justice dept refuses to enforce the law. They said there are probably 5 – 10 million colored people that could vote but can’t because the system forbids them for various reasons.:omg::eek::yuck:
thug tony hawks underground!
King Kong, Thanks for the “free” lesson… I never would have guess’d Hindi base but root from Sanskrit.
Oh, I forgot my birthday is near Marc’s. I am a Libra with a Leo (lion) Rising (:growl: — Born in the year of the Water Snake (some say blue snake) 😉
AND You ❓ hehehe
This thug they were interviewing was out of the slammer on probation.. so someone caught up with him already.. One has to wonder how many more they haven’t found yet ??:jason::gate::omg:
SeanMS. A “gamer” huh…:hubba:
and yesterday was Gypsy’s (peasantwitch) but to me it’s her day for a few :banana:
:no:my computer just told me my video driver is out of date!
A band new computer with an out of date video driver good stuff..:eek::crap:
Find out who the manufacturer is and go to their web site and down load the latest and greatest.
:rofl2: SeanMS :rofl2: :rofl2:
I laugh since my computer “is alive” and we have a love/hate relationship :rofl2: :rofl2:
Re: the current C-span conversation… some one I knew had someone try to reposes his car out of his garage.. He shot him.:jason::gate::omg:
There seems to be a whole industry set up by the financial services companies to get information about you so they can come and find you when you don’t pay your debts. This guy says there are 200 – 300 companies.. I now see why the bankruptcy law got passed. Can you imagine how many air strikes it will take to get rid of them ??
fred, I respectfully Plea The 5th :billcat:
:fu::no:
Now DRUID what kind of treasure could you possibly have buried in the back yard ??:?::?::omg:
A few Dead Cats ….:omg: :rofl2:
:omg:SACRAMENTO, Calif. – The Bush administration this week asked California to send an additional 1,500 National Guard troops to the Mexican border, but Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger denied the request, two California National Guard officials said Friday.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/13511924/
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I thought all retug politicians were whores to the ones above them :!::!::!:
hi all from over here, am waving!
That last part of that house hearing on C-span had some five or six people who were in the data mining business .. They all pleaded the 5th.:omg: :eek::yuck: 🙁
Hey egotils whassup this morning. ??
We are all being devious.. :omg: :-(:eek:
I cannot believe how everyone would just “Plea the 5th.”
read #213 yesterday to answer what you were speaking about…plus … 😳 “used as blushing”
… and (just curious) what month were you born in?
evening here, and devious you lot? lol, surely not!
Good Eve egotils 😉
~ wave wave ~
to all you geniuses!
druid, i, too, am a libra!
quick fly-by before the daily walk…dorks are already chomping at the bit.
Fred, did you hear that :jerk: caller (on C-Span) :growl:
aquarius here, too damn touchy sometimes for my own good
Ok this morning or good morning will hence forth be a macro for morning/evening/whatever..
Lets see if it is night it is Saturday so egotils must be really bored.
WJ has its usual group of wing nuts and strikingly brilliant liberals.:omg: 🙁 :eek::yuck:
Did you get the info re “sting” I sent yesterday?
:love: A Libra
When KKZN fades out at night I often get KHOW instead and Thursday night Mike Wiener Savage was on.. He said liberalism was a disease. :omg: 🙁
Its getting really hard to ignore these idiots.:gate::omg::jason::fist:
fred! can you explian this please?
egotils One who carries water “touchy” — that is due to you being very independant and when you choose you like your privacy 😉
no druid,i didn’t see it. :rant1: shoot.
took isi’s advice and am feeling much better. since i couldn’t really see the back of my leg where the sting was, I didn’t realize I had five stings. they were yellow wasps building paper nest. have to bring out my netting clothes for when I work outside now. 😮
if my pop listens to savage, he becomes really angry. Savage is the disease.
The whole blog ???..
Most people go party on Saturday night.. In the US its getting more like the Russian comic said.. He said “in America on Saturday night you go looking for the party ,, In Russia the party comes looking for you.”
and your point fredric? actually my name is marcy, short for marcella, but am only marcella when i am in trouble
marcella is a lovely name!
oh no no no, don’t quote me, we are having a net misunderstanding, it’s all ok!
text does that!
:?::?:I don’t think there was a point.. Lets continue being devious..
thanks farmercat, am growing into it
yes fred you are right, there was no point, so devious it is!
:nixon:
Don’t let the stingers get ya!
Ciao!
Kat its is good to know the wasps didn’t produce any allergic reactions or anything.. Those creatures are dangerous.. I usually treat them with some Black Flag.
Farmerkat, Aspirin or Benadryl (especially for itch and swelling) and Baking Soda paste or…
Meat Tenderizer or “slice of onion? (kinda), LOCAL honey. For possible future stings THE EXTRACTOR WORKED!!! Get at camping store or http://bitesandstingsonline.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=BASO&Product_Code=B6B&Category_Code=BAST
All I have tried! …and I swell … if you do also, get checked when next at Docs
Farmerkat, What was Isi’s, since I do swell. Which I am still in denial about. : D
I (and I think DRUID) are watching the idiots on C-span’s Washington Journal.. if it wasn’t obvious.
The thug supporters must live in a different county than I do .. How can they be so paranoid ?? :?::?: 🙁
Back in the 1970’s I was about as paranoid at walking on the same side of the street as the railroad tracks.. So many trains were coming off their tracks at the time.. I still think you are in more danger from a train derailment than from a terrorist attack.:omg::roll::mad::eek::yuck::rant1:
Fred:wink:, I am now so non-trusting and :paranoid:
🙁 :no:
Yea to being a misanthroptic recluse :banana:
Yes DRUID but we are paranoid about our own government not about some foreign terrorists.. That’s actually much worse..with AAR we see them coming after us every day.. don’t we ?? :omg::mad::roll::eek::yuck:
That’s right, I am no longer in mountains sooooooo
I am a part-time misanthropic recluse :rofl2: No longer the lone wolf 😥 :growl: :rofl2:
Fred, I think you are more forgiving of folk than I.
:omg:GOP Candidate’s Call for Labor Camp Rebuked
By JENNIFER TALHELM
The Associated Press
Friday, June 23, 2006; 10:05 PM
WASHINGTON — A Republican gubernatorial candidate’s call for creation of a forced labor camp for illegal immigrants drew rebukes Friday from two GOP lawmakers, who labeled it a low point in the immigration debate.
Don Goldwater, nephew of the late Sen. Barry Goldwater, caused an international stir this week when EFE, a national news agency of Spain, quoted him as saying he wanted to hold undocumented immigrants in camps to use them “as labor in the construction of a wall and to clean the areas of the Arizona desert that they’re polluting.”
http://tinyurl.com/fa83d
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After they came for the immigrants they ….:?::?:
:omg:The New York Times will be reporting on Saturday that a Supreme Court decision to review cases involving race and school assignment programs could place in jeopardy a variety of approaches to ensuring racial balance, RAW STORY has learned.
A number of school districts in various parts of the country use race as one factor in all assignments, in order to maximize the integration of their public schools. Others use it only when considering transfer requests. Still others use voluntary programs like magnet schools, clustering plans, or admission lotteries in order to maintain racial balance.
http://tinyurl.com/jjuzr
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They may not repeal Rove vs Wade but maybe everything else.
:yuck::eek::gate::omg::jason::fist:
Re 74 :omg: :fu: :growl::fist:
Repeal ALL bush appointees – especially judicial
*idiot bush is INVALID
If you were Al Gore, would you want to put yourself through all that crap again? http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060624/ap_on_re_us/gore_back_home
After Koch lost his third re-election race for mayor, New Yorkers would stop him on the street and ask when he was running again, and he would say “No, you had your chance. Now you have to be punished!”
Wanting to be president is a type of mental illness anyway.
On Tuesday morning, a retired Catholic priest and two veterans put on clown suits, busted into a nuclear missile launch facility, and began beating the silo cover with hammers, in an attempt to take the Minuteman III missile off-line. Seriously.
The trio — members of the Luck, Wisconsin group Nukewatch — said the break-in was part of “a call for national repentance” for the Hiroshima and Nagaski A-bombings in 1945.
The activists used bolt-cutters to get into the E-9 Minuteman II facility, located just northwest of the White Shield, North Dakota. “Using a sledgehammer and household hammers, they disabled the lock on the personnel entry hatch that provides access to the warhead and they hammered on the silo lid that covers the 300 kiloton nuclear warhead,” the group said in a statement. “The activists painted ‘It’s a sin to build a nuclear weapon’ on the face of the 110-ton hardened silo cover and the peace activists poured their blood on the missile lid.”
This was all done while wearing face paint, dunce caps, misfitting overalls, and bright yellow wigs.
We dress as clowns to show that humor and laughter are key elements in the struggle to transform the structures of destruction and death. Saint Paul said that we are “fools for God’s sake,” and we say that we are “fools for God and humanity.” Clowns as court jesters were sometimes the only ones able to survive after speaking truth to authorities in power
http://www.defensetech.org/archives/002531.html
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Don’t you feel safer :?::?: :omg: 🙁 :yuck::eek:
Isn’t that the truth :?::?:
There has to be something in the water in DC.. poor PJ :omg:
This is a part of a letter I am sending to Gore, ending to paraphrase a Star War’s character,
“Gore, you’re our ONLY hope.”
With his background he could immediately take over the presidency, WHEN we impeach and arrest the TOXIC SLIME bush.
ARREST!
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VIGILANCE!
fred, actually I like that :banana: and may use that :banana: :rofl2: The Harlequin/Clown costumes in Humboldt :rofl2:
(…and I use to be in LA)
I think you, Fred, are forcing me to be external again 😮 (that’s a joke, but it probably will fly like a lead ballon 🙁 )
ARREST!
IMPEACH! (format by KevinM)
VIGILANCE!
From a BBC story on the Miami “terrorists.”
We must all remain vigilant and report unamerican activities to the authorities – be it neighbors, friends, even family. The terrorists are everywhere. :paranoid:
:omg:Jun 24, 7:41 AM (ET)
NEW YORK (AP) – A federal appeals court on Friday declined to force the government to turn over information on the National Security Agency’s wiretapping program to a man charged in a terrorism case.
The 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled in the case of Yassin Aref, an imam at an Albany mosque who is accused of laundering money for an FBI informant posing as an arms dealer.
Aref wanted the government to say whether any of the evidence against him had been gathered through the warrantless electronic surveillance program, which has been challenged by some civil liberties groups.
He asked the court to force the NSA to reveal details of the program, rule it illegal and toss out evidence gathered from it. The New York Civil Liberties Union joined Aref’s motion.
Much of the legal debate over the request has been conducted under a shroud of secrecy because of the program’s classified nature, with key court documents available only to those with security clearance.
Although the government made redacted portions of some documents available to the defense, Aref petitioned the appeals court for greater access.
The three-judge panel said it didn’t have jurisdiction to grant much of what Aref requested.
Aref and Mohammed Hossain, a pizzeria owner and mosque member, are accused of laundering money from 2003 to 2004 for the FBI informant, a Pakistani businessman posing as an arms dealer. The mosque was raided by federal agents on Aug. 5, 2004, following a yearlong sting.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060624/D8IEIA380.html
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This makes absolutely no sense..:fustrate::mad::omg:
I hope we don’t start using evidence hidden behind the curtain. You can’t see it , you can’t refute it but you are guilty as charged.. Sounds like some other places but not here.:gate::omg::jason::fist:
Now the party comes looking for you ??:gate::omg::jason::fist:
Sunday at 9 pm on C-span watch the British parliament question the PM.. This is usually pretty good comedy.. a lot better than the US house..:rofl2::nixon::peace:
Published Thursday, June 22, 2006
SPRINGFIELD (AP) – A southwest Missouri mall defended its dress code after a security guard told a 10-year-old girl her bandanna decorated with peace signs, smiley faces and flowers violated the mall’s code of conduct.
Lydia Smith, who was shopping with her mother at Battlefield Mall for new church clothes when the incident happened Saturday, said she wore the orange and yellow bandanna to give her outfit some color.
Lydia and her mom, Susan Smith, were eating lunch when the girl saw a mall security officer ask a nearby teenager to remove a bandanna. Then the officer approached her.
“(The officer) asked me to take it off and said there’s this new rule we have or something like that,” Lydia said.
The officer handed Lydia’s mother a printed copy of the Battlefield Mall Code of Conduct, which prohibits patrons from engaging in certain activities while on mall property.
Lydia had violated No. 10 on the list of 17 offenses: “failing to be fully clothed or wearing apparel which is likely to provide a disturbance or embroil other groups or the general public in open conflict.”
http://tinyurl.com/ohzly
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Sheeeeez :omg::mad::rant1:
Senate Approves Whistleblower Rights Breakthrough
Legislation Added to Defense Bill Would Restore Free Speech Rights Canceled by Supreme Court for Federal Government Workers on the Job
http://www.commondreams.org/news2006/0623-06.htm
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I don’t remember “our” media reporting this ??
:omg::nixon::peace:
pjsauter :paranoid:re #81 I am trying to “force” a joke … I am now seriously scared. When in a “vic” near the ocean area you/one has strange folk around, including “tweekers” (sp), that try to have attention on others…but I have a very “interesting” background, so until I get something in print (besides poems) I am now worried about gonzales. …and I was just going to bed. I can see his data base working. I am about ready to cry.
Fred, some in arizona were arrested and in for life. I would not usualy say…but you were right to “let” some know where I am. That’s why I am still here. That was a way of old.
It is kinda funny…The Blog might keep me safe. (But I am no longer laughing.)
There has to be something in the water in DC.. poor PJ
Comment by fred — June 24, 2006 @ 8:42 am
I’ve actually been thinking that seriously. Like, there is some kind of pharmeceutical in the water that makes the Dems more docile and agreeeable.
Any “words of wisdom” will be embraced.
I just again will get even more external and pray.
I really don’t see what else to do, but get done with what I am doing.
I wish for the first time I was back in LA.
The AAR affiliate stations in California (KLSD and KTLK) seem to have live day long Weekend programming .. It must be nice to have a huge market..
KKZN in Denver will have a garden program on pretty soon. .. wow.. :roll::shock::rant1:
People liken the current situation to 1984, but it’s really a lot closer to Kafka’s “The Trial.” Secret courts, secret evidence, middle of the night arrests, and either execution or eternal internment.
To parapharase Churchill, an iron curtain is descending upon North America from Maine to Oregon, from California to Florida. I repulse the idea that a new facism is inevitable, but while our fortunes are still in our own hands and we hold the power to save the future, it is our duty to speak out now while we still have the opportunity to do so.
This affinity to money in DC seems to take effect like over night after a new rep or Senator gets there.
Do they give them shots for something ??:rant1:
:omg:oh fuck im in miami they arent going to come for me are they?:paranoid:
maybe we can get malloy to read us kafka!:banana:
is it really the water in dc?:neutral:
president P.J.!:banana:
In Colorado the Columbine shooters built the bombs in one of their garages with the door open most of the time.. I some how don’t think the neighbors are looking.. :-(:doh::fustrate::billcat:
Everytime I check in to KTLK in the morning…it is a show promoting “something” or another, but I will keep checking. Well I should go to sleep so I can listen to Ring of Fire, which I missed lately.
They all get elected by the same system, so they’re unwilling to change the system, lest they don’t get re-elected. The real, long-term key is to begin raising a new party from the ground up. Trying to run a third-party candidate for national office every four years and feeling proud that you helped them get on the ballot and get 5% of the vote (while crying that one party or the other is being a bunch of big old meainies by trying to keep you off the ballot and out of the debates) is laudible, but pretty clearly ineffective.
A third party needs to start capturing the school boards, town councils, and county legislatures, making their way to taking control of the state assemblies and getting representatives elected to congress. That’s something that probably won’t be accomplished in my lifetime.
Sean: You never know what will happen in Jeb Bush country.. Most likely they will privatize the highway under your truck and then charge you a fortune to dive that 30 feet.:eek::yuck::doh:
:mad:it said that world cant wait was gonna be on the warped tour but i cant find their booth anywhere!
So, I’ve been running spyware every night and I just take a look at the spyware list after its done just to get an idea of which ones are “normal” and how treacherous they are. My friend has even been using my computer to go to kinky sites and I haven’t had a more “high level threat” than the day I went to the right wing site with the story about the Amero.
No Fred, they’re not looking at what’s real. But if you wear your hair a little bit long or you don’t manicure your grass, or you don’t quite “look right,” or you maybe like to put an IMPEACH! sign in your front lawn, well, then, you can bet the neighbors are looking at that. And, in a day and age when your infant can get on the no-fly list and you can’t find out why – or how to get him off – then how far of a stretch is it to get disappeared in the middle of the night? Especially if they reward the “good” citizens for rooting out the “terrorists.”
:mad:friggin i had to go out of the venue where all the kids were lined up to get into the show and drive around the back so when i get around back they tell me i cant park in the venue because they arent letting anybody else in to park so i park outside and got my bike off the rack to go in and then they tell me i can go park inside the gates so i put my bike back up and pull up to the gate and then the lady at the gate wouldnt let me in so i had to wait another ten minutes to get in ugh sometimes i just want to choke people!
We are attempting to recall three members of the school board.. The project has had some start up problems but almost everyone is fed up with the BS going on there so lots of people even some lined up to sign the petitions. We need 15 thousand signatures to get it on the Nov ballot..:nixon::peace:
:paranoid:spyware! i wonder what kind of spyware new computers come with these days:fu:
I’ve been saying I walked into some kind of Kafkaland since 9/11 when I came out of the mountains from a camping trip and saw the frontpage of the newspaper.:omg::nod: And I just watched “The Trial” the other day with Anthony Perkins and Orson Welles. His stories have always upset me to where I can’t watch them sometimes.
Sean : For Kevin welcome to Florida ..:roll::yuck:
It is a trail…I am more worried about gonzales’ data base and if local and state and national coalesce.
“They” tried and got all except me and what I led…the only difference was my “feelings”.
Now to runaway from me:
-Did anyone read the Dragonlance trilogy?
-Are com sci geeks or nerds?
-Did anyone play D & D on college level?…and on the old graph mats? And why are people embarassed to admit playing? SillySue and I mean you cuz I see it as Brilliant Folk playing.
Hey, I used play D&D back in the day. And I’m not ashamed to say so.
For a system set up for a no party system this two party fiasco is really working poorly for most of us.
Until a third party gets enough candidates in office to make no party the majority party they will never be a force except to dilute the vote of the minority party. All I see the dems as is a roll of the dice that might cause a selection that might be better than whats there. Voting for someone other than a dem this time around is a vote for the thugs. :crap::crap::rant1:
pjsauter :banana:
(also I have 3 impeach bush signs and cops drive by and when they have stopped, they glare…but they also know I worked for the PD and SO before, down south:wink:)
:rofl2:d&d nerds!
I see Bushco and its enablers as being more or less separate from the Rebpublican/Democrat scam. Because they call themselves Republicans, those in office from that party feel a need to back them and their minions are without honor (or shame), and so they punish anyone who dares step out of line. The only immediate way to stop the Bushies is to get the Republicans out of control of at least branch of government. But that’s no panacea, and no long term solution for what ails this country.
then again i used to read choose your own adventure books that had d&d style battles with hp systems and what-not and thats even geekier at least d&d made you socialize with other people!
D&D was a computer game before there were computer games. Except there was a lot more thought involved, since the only computer was your brain.
when i did those books i did all the math in my head! kept my inventory there too!
Yeah, that’s how it used to be. Plus you hadda use a lot of imagination.
Hey, D&D…yeah, I was probably the only female for miles who played that back in the day…hung out with geeks (but cool ones)…it was a pretty elaborate system. Eventually I got tired of being in dungeons and fighting balrogs and so on, I thought the whole idea should be applied to other scenarios, but everybody I knew was stuck in the Tolkienesque fantasy thing. I still call people “neutral good” or “chaotic evil,” etc, though 😉
SeanMS d&d nerds!
:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:
pjsauter D&D was a computer game before there were computer games. Except there was a lot more thought involved, since the only computer was your brain.
:nod: re#116 and your “imagination”:wink::yawn:
:tinfoil::joe::yawn:
Morning Druid!
I just saw you that you included “imagination”
I really have to not “contemplate” while typing 😳
Yea Susan Joy as I am slowly leaving.
All this to say Dragonlance is coming out again JULY 2006 Yea:banana:
Ok back to work…:sheep::knit::sheep:
sbluefox, I just saw you — Oneday we’ll be together :rofl2:…:yawn::wink: :rofl2: G’Night, G’Day:wink:
Travisdem!
If you are reading this drink lots of water- its’ gonna be a hot one!
And welcome to Seattle.
Oh yeah…Melina is at the Origami fest…
I get worried when people disappear.
Otis:billcat: where are you?
:yawn:Talk to Ya All in a few hours. I am fading…..
Thx PJ :wink:…and G’day to You, Fred, wherever you
are.
MicroBlues Festival
Hey, was that fun or what??!!
I just wanted to drop you a note to thank you so much for volunteering to
work with me at the MicroBlues Festival last weekend. Great events like this
would not be possible without people willing to step up and help out.
Thank you so much and please be sure to sign up again next year.
Terry
:omg:
it’s always nice to get thank you notes :nod:
I sort of went from a world of ASR33’s, CDC mainframes, DEC minis and mag tape to PC’s.. D&D ( which it took the better part of ten minutes to remember what this might be) must have been something in the in between.:doh::doh::billcat:
I was brought up with the knowledge that computers were for computing.. Now days that amounts to playing games, and surfing the net for .. well … err.. ok is this an R or a G rated blog ??. Actually the fastest machines with the fastest graphics are usually used by gamers. Great to have technology driven by technology isn’t it ..:?::?:
Sorry DRUID I had to go grocery shopping and didn’t sign out.. oops.:smack::shock:
Radio London Reminds You: Give to the Church of Your Choice.
Church of Maronista Phoenix Future
(On Second Thought)
28248 North Tatum Blvd. B#605
Cave Creek, AZ 85331
Give Generously.
Blessed Maron Sharbel
:rabbi::jesus::priest::sdavid::sammy::sheep::fire::bow::cake:
:omg:Did you check recently ( like in the last hour or two) to see if this place is still there..:?::?:
Do you have some late-breaking news? The address is no longer valid, or what?:menorah::sdavid::jesus:
There is a gigantic forest / sagebrush fire in the area north of Phoenix.:!::!::!:
I gotcha! Tempe. I have not checked. Where is KP? She would know if the Church was in peril.:menorah::sdavid::sheep::rabbi::jesus:
:omg:So the Times of London is going to report tomorrow that the Iraqi government is going to ask us to leave.. and if we don’t ask the UN to kick us out..
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13521628/site/newsweek/
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I will bet HU and Putin would love to enforce that later order.:yuck::eek: ( insert mushroom cloud emu here)
:banana:Tempe is south east of Phoenix.. probably still there in that case.:shock:
just went for sushi and a heineken!
Does your truck run on methane ??:nixon::peace:
:paranoid:is it legal to yell FIRE in a crowded blog?
Hey Druid call Johnny Wendel on KTLK and tell him WE LOST.. the victor dictates the terms and its not a war it is an occupation. :nixon::peace:
nope bio-diesel!
Just wondered…. raw fish and a beer sounds like it would produce free fuel if it ran on methane :roll::nixon::peace:
hey fred do you ever call malloy? because i think i want to hear you conversing with malloy i think it would be interesting
:omg:Malloy is on after my bed time… I have to get up at like 1:30 am..:doh::fustrate::billcat:
On Friday evening, ABC News reported on secret US military documents obtained from a disc bought from an Afghanistan bazaar which show that the military “knows – or knew” the locations in Pakistan of 15 high level wanted members of al Qaeda and the Taliban, and which purportedly link nine Afghani officials, including Karzai’s brother to drug lords, RAW STORY has found.
http://tinyurl.com/rpmof
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Humm… oil and drugs .. and the Carlyle group how amazing is that ??:gate::omg::jason::fist:
Is Cave Creek, AZ in the line of fire?:omg:
:fire::rabbi::jesus::priest::sdavid::sammy:
Fred. You should try to think through your apocalyptic fear that Russia or China will bomb or invade to impost their will. Won’t happen. It will take the US population applying pressure that will eventually kill the Beast within our Corrupted System.
We don’t need no thought control…molding their own special breed.
:omg:The fire is in the area of Sedona.. which is quite a ways north of Cave Creek,, I don’t know what is in between the two places.. In recent times it might be truck farms.:!::!:
Since both Russia and China are connected by land to Iraq it would be pretty simple for them to send an expeditionary force to remove us..What would Bush do as China mobilized its army, dumped its T-bills on world markets and kicked out WalMart. ??.. The Russians could probably send in one of there huge transport planes and fly in two divisions in an afternoon. If GW did anything the resulting nuclear winter would probably stop global warming too.
I’m more afraid of this government than anything somebody might do to me from outside the country, I dunno….
The Cavecreek addres is a PO box. When I went there to drop off my donation I happen to see Dr. Mike there collecting his mail. He must live around there. Tghe radio station is in downtown Phoenix.
It’s so sad to see some of the best views burning up. Makes me regret that I haven’t gone up there more.
My friends’ son just passed though on his way to help fight the fires up there.
I signed up for a raffle to win an ipod at the local thrift store. But I gotta be there to win it at 12:30. It does video clips and images.
KP it is pretty amazing what you can get in a package that goes in your shirt pocket. I wonder if they sell a magnifying light with them so older people can see what is on the screen ??:doh::billcat::peace:
Yeah Fred, and I’m amazed at the lack of buttons and levers on it. How the hell does it work??
Brain-dead Dems call for sneak attack on North Korea:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/21/AR2006062101518.html?sub=AR
I’m not a great military strategist like Donald Rumsfeld, but there’s one small problem with this plan, guys:
North Korea could use conventional weapons to turn Seoul, South Korea into a smoking ruin.
This would wreak havok on our 401-k’s, and interfere significantly with Kia production.
Might kill a few people too, albeit not white people.
Naturally, the neo-con web sites think this is ducky.
What’s plan B?
I think … The IPOD has a little pointer like device you touch the screen with and everything is icon driven. How you enter text .. I have no idea :doh::doh::billcat:
sweet i want a touchscreen pointer ipod that would be so much cooler than the clickwheel one i have now!
I want an ipod with levers and pulleys! :tongue:
pulleys!:banana:
:mad:myspace is evil! it makes it way too easy for me to find girls i used to have huge crushes on! like this girl
:nod:or uh this one this one was weird!
:shock:then there was this one but uh unlike the first two i never put any effort into trying to go out with her even though i think this one might have worked out better than the first two!
:mad:i need to post more!
:fustrate:im gonna lose my number 2 spot!
:tongue:but im ok with that as long as i dont lose three!
hahahaha ::number two spot stealer fast approaching::::
it’s all a plot to get you to post!!! :nod:
:evil:an evil plot!
In Sunday’s paper, conservative New York Times columnist David Brooks attacks the founder of Daily Kos for acting like a “Kingpin” who “commands his followers” to “unleash their venom on those who stand in the way,” RAW STORY has found.
“The Keyboard Kingpin, aka Markos Moulitsas Zuniga, sits at his computer, fires up his Web site, Daily Kos, and commands his followers, who come across like squadrons of rabid lambs, to unleash their venom on those who stand in the way,” writes Brooks. “And in this way the Kingpin has made himself a mighty force in his own mind, and every knee shall bow.”
http://tinyurl.com/o89zm
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Poor Marcos.. David Brooks must have over dosed on the Kool aid.:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:
only because I care for the welfare of this blog :omg:
Wow, old Brooksie really went off the deep end here…
:fu:fuck kos damn anti speculative investigators ass-bandit bastard!
hmm, I think I may like that slogan for a bumper sticker for my car, Sean!
:tinfoil:9/11 was caused by aliens in little grey tank-tops!
see pj lets me freely spread my 9/11 truth speculations kos on the other hand would freak out and delete that post so i think all daily kos readers should quit kos and get over here!
No, I don’t want the 450,000,000 Daily Kos people here. We will instantly be transported to the Beltway and be forced to drink martinis, attend DC parties, and forget about real people. No thanks.
Alright youse guys. I’m gonna watch Blazing Saddles right now. I haven’t seen it since I was 8, so I’m thinking it might not be as funny as I thought it was then. But it’s too hot to go outside now and I didn’t win the ipod :smack: some old lady did. My friend was even the one picking out the tickets. Cripes!I could have stayed to win a gigantic stuffed dog but the only reason I might want something like that is to see what the dogs would do with it in the yard. But then I would have to clean it up. Screw THAT!:jerk:
Hey, does anyone remember a movie that came out about the same time as Blazing Saddles called Swashbuckler? I remember liking that one quite a bit then too. But then I also liked Pippy Longstocking so whaddaya want!:sammy:
:nod:you should of put the fix in if bush can steal the presidency you can steal an ipod!
I tried man, I had my guy in there and everything. I’m not very good at stealing. Maybe I should have mugged the old lady when she left, huh.
I remember all three of those movies, haha! Yay Pippi.
if i was there i would of helped!
:jason:just get the old lady in the knees then anything you want is yours!
This week, Nanosolar, a startup in Palo Alto, CA, announced plans to build a production facility with the capacity to make enough solar cells annually to generate 430 megawatts. This output would represent a substantial portion of the worldwide production of solar energy.
According to Nanosolar’s CEO Martin Roscheisen, the company will be able to produce solar cells much less expensively than is done with existing photovoltaics because its new method allows for the mass-production of the devices. In fact, maintains Roscheisen, the company’s technology will eventually make solar power cost-competitive with electricity on the power grid
http://tinyurl.com/ppqgl
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I wonder when Exxon Mobil will buy them and sell that technology to China. ??:eek::peace:
:40:free market sucks!
WARNING WARNING READ BOTTOM PARAGRAPH FIRST
BREAKING: Violence Breaks Out Across The Country. Thousands Killed.
17 killed in violence nationwide, including church attack
Washington DC (CNN) — At least 17 people were killed and five bodies discovered Friday in violence that erupted in Washington, New York and near Atlanta, authorities told CNN.
A bomb detonated Friday outside a Catholic Church near a playground north of the capital, killing nine civilians and wounding 15 others, police said.
The explosion took place in Wheaton Maryland, a town just North of Washington, DC where U.S. aircraft on June 7 bombed a terrorist safe house, three suspected insurgents.
People were leaving the weekly Sunday afternoon mass at the church when the explosive — hidden in nearby trash — went off around 2 p.m., police said.
Three of the wounded are in critical condition.
Washington’s curfew
Federal officials have lifted Washington’s curfew from 5 to 9 p.m. Friday (9 a.m. to 1 p.m. ET) to allow people to run errands, said a senior official with the Department of Homeland Security.
The government had earlier imposed a vehicle and pedestrian ban from midday Friday to 6 a.m. Saturday in response to a gunbattle near synagogue.
Four armed militiamen were killed and an local police officer wounded in the fighting that broke out Friday morning, an official with DC emergency police told CNN.
The synagogue has already been struck twice by suicide attackers in the past few months, most recently last Friday when 11 people were killed.
Deaths of 5 U.S. military personnel reported
A roadside bomb killed two soldiers assigned to Multi-State Division-DC southeast of Washington on Friday, the U.S. military said, bringing the U.S. military death toll to 2,515.
The U.S. military also announced Friday the deaths of two Marines “as a result of enemy action” in West Virginia, the U.S. military said. One was killed Wednesday, and the other died Thursday, and both were assigned to 1st Brigade, 1st Armored Division, the military said. Four other Marines were killed during attacks there this week.
Other developments
A car bomb detonated Friday around noon near a market and gas station in the southern city of Atlanta, killing at least two people and injuring 18 others, according to police and hospital officials. Deadly violence in the city hasn’t ebbed since President Bush declared a month long state of emergency there May 31. Days after his announcement, a bomb killed 33 people and wounded 55 in a crowded Augusta marketplace.
Five bodies with gunshot wounds were found dumped in northern New York City Friday, police said.
Relatives two soldiers captured during an insurgent attack by the McVeigh Militia, said the U.S. military confirmed to them Thursday that the brutalized bodies found this week were those of the missing soldiers, The Associated Press reported. (Full story)
U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney on Thursday called a withdrawal of U.S. troops from American streets “the worst possible thing we could do,” adding that such a move would embolden militiamen.
http://tinyurl.com/r5pf9
Sorry.
“War Of the Worlds” Reality Check – If this was the way that people were describing conditions here, there would be no doubt that it was a total catastrophy. Change the names on back to the original Baghdad, Basra and Baquba and suddenly it is acceptable losses and progress! WFT?
http://tinyurl.com/ln7l9
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This is from DU what do you think would happen in the US if those were the NYT headlines tomorrow. ??
:eek::yuck::crap::nixon::peace:
Actually after reading this again it sounds like something on page 10A of the Chicago Tribune with a few places changed and the Chicago police substituted fro the US army.
Poor Marcos.. David Brooks must have over dosed on the Kool aid.
Comment by fred — June 24, 2006 @ 4:14 pm
I enjoy watching the News Hour on PBS on Fridays, when David Brooks and Mark Shields give their analysis of the week’s events. Brooks seems like a pleasant sort of guy for a conservative, but he’s usually so full of shit that he is apologizing or making an excuse nearly every week for something he got wrong weeks ago.
It’s funny because he always seems genuinely disturbed that his predictions were not more correct, which I guess is sort of a refreshing change from most of the other right-wingers, who will lie to your face, spew incredible amounts of bullshit, and not care.
What he’s doing on a national show, I have no idea, unless PBS is putting him out there for entertainment value only.
And as long as we’re keeping track, I have never played D&D in my life. I have, however, done a multitude of other dorky things that I will not go into at this time. 😯
:banana:kevin m is a dork too! just not a d&d dork!
:billcat:Greetings All :banana:
Just wurkin’ and lurkin’and drinkn’:joe:(tea):banana:BUT I have gotten to hear “Ring of Fire” finally(since several weeks (except for the very end of show)):banana:
…when stream behaves:growl:
ARREST!
IMPEACH! (format by KevinM)
VIGILANCE!
Fred, I just SAW about Johnny Wendel
I :love: HIM — but I heard him twice and then never again. I thought he was taken off air 🙁 — I even looked at ktlk line-up 🙁 but if he is on air it must be when I sleep. MORE RESEARCH IS NEEDED — cuz I :love: him :hubba: hehehe (his attittude and opinions:rofl2:)
ARREST!
IMPEACH! (format by KevinM)
VIGILANCE!
Well, hung out at the american history museum today. Saw Archie and Edith’s chairs, plus ted baxter’s wjm blazer. They had the radio shack trs-80, plus mac’s from back when they actually were better than IBM PC’s.
In the middle 1990’s the state of California had a conference about requiring 20% of their cars to be electric by 2005. They decided they didn’t have enough generation capacity to do that. Following the conference the president of the Union Pacific railroad was heard walking down the hall saying over and over again “600 million tons of coal a year… 600 million tons of coal a year”..
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1 hp is approximately equal to 1 kilowatt of electricity. If 20 million cars all had 30 hp electric motors they would consume some 600,000,000 kilowatts of power or 60 billion watts ( 60 terra watts) of power. I hope everyone doesn’t turn on there battery charger at the same time. I think the US currently only generates about about 360 terra watts of power in the entire country.
http://tinyurl.com/35lb4
:nixon::peace::?::?::?::?:
Hey, D & D folk can be sooooo “hot and fun and beyond beyond:banana: and “brilliantly sexy”:wink: and I am talking about the guys…:rofl2: EXAMPLE:
…Kevin and Sean — when I was a teen and very early 20’s NOT NOW (Seriously)NOT NOW after almost a head on collision 😮 I was told it was girls like me that made guys like them have accidents :eek:but:rofl2:…
NOT NOW:!:
sooo who knows who’s is playing those
“nerdy” :rofl2:games:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2: (the shadow knows:rofl2:)
I’m BORED!:doh:
Acually, 1 HP = 746 watts.
I knew it was either 1.2 or .8 kw per hp. Using 1 works well to size an engine to run a generator.
The next question is would you be happy with a 30 hp motor ?? VW’s were like 60 hp ,, Most of todays cars are like 200 hp.:?::?::?:
Hey KP. You think you’re bored, you should be here with me. Of course, if you were here with me, you might not be bored. :hubba:
We’re both in our little dorm rooms broke and alone, I’ve started drinking already. Blazing Saddles wasn’t as funny as I remember but I still love Gene Wilder:love:
Some of the 70s that I remember as great on recent rewatching are SLOW.
:joe:
Kristapea re #181 :banana: :nod:
…and “Young Frankenstein” ( I like the rain :rofl2:)
or …Goblet of Fire (pretty fire) :banana:
I stayed in a MALE FRAT DORM one summer, to save $
— so I feel for you and PJ, but (sorry)
:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:
Is this the place where i can tell that joke about how Bush can close Gitmo, because it was more effective breakig down Alquida prisoners by making them listen to the Satellite Sisters? No?
Okay, if the subject is movies I want to just state that the best non-american film ever made was The Third Man, which is technically not true, because there were americans involved. But rent it. It will change your life, assuming it needed a change.
Blazing Saddles was good too, but The Producers [the first one with Zero Mostel] was brilliant.
SIWIWFD
I mustah missed something in The Third Man because it didn’t do much for me.
When to thee Apollo
Should have seen them go go go.
take a walk on the wild side?
Flanders is talking to a lady with Rainbow Push in Georgia about rabid voter disenfranchisement this Nov. The state is requiring all the voters to have ID. They know 650,000 voting age people in the state don’t have drivers licenses or state issued ID’s. The answer of course is to write letters to the US attorney general ..:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:
or maybe it should be :barf::barf::barf:
once again one uses the oh dear we are screwed .. yelp yelp scream scream.. then bend over…technique :40::eek::yuck:
the South will rise again? Or not….repeat history, shake, repeat…
Well Flanders is bring us a feel good program once again describing all the problems and solving them with a loud chorus of RAW RAW RAW.
Once the jello quits quivering thing will just go back to the sameo sameo :40::40::eek::nixon::peace:
Went to thee Apollo….I have a magical mind. Vicious…..Vicious So vicious…
:omg:
Fred. Laura Flanders is probably the best lefty AAR has–next to that self described marxist Steve Earle. You should not mock her.
Before you trash efforts to bring democracy to the old confederacy, I suggest you read the history of the populist movement. More. Lots of pregressive things have come out of the south. Clinton was not one of them.
hmm, ok. Well yeah, Clinton was a conservative democrat
Ahmet Ertugen
Tin soldiers and Nixon coming
We’re finally on our own…:omg:
who?
four dead in Ohio, yes
Stop trashing communism. Woody was a communist.
ok, I got the stream, who is this, one of CSN&Y?
ok, never mind, it’s David Crosby…
The Communist Party in power tends to become tyrannical. But they are warriors in the struggle. Good at many things, bad at others. Tragedy. Destroyed the Spanish Revolution. Russian likewise. The American Communist Party played a major role in creating the CIO.
I’d imagine that most people who talk about them don’t have a clue about them
I am getting nostalgic. Incredible that they keep coming back. Young is a musical phenomenon. Crosby keeps getting written off, but he is on a national radio show sounding as bright as ever. Stills started off as the big star of the band (along with Young). I have not followed his career.
Yeah, David Crosby’s always been an interesting interview, I’m surprised I didn’t recognize him right away…
He also says a lot of ballsy things usually 🙂
CP? Stalin. They throw the atrocities at you. The way I tend to think about them is that the rank and file often do terrific things. It is the leadership, shackled by an ideology, that frequently does fucked up things.
David Crosby is a smart man. Political thinker. Barack! Come on, Crosby. I take back what I said.
that’s the way it usually is, yeah. Regular people, the grassroots are where it’s at. Unfortunately you have to have leadership too
oh yeah, please don’t throw Barack Obama out at me. All glitter and no substance with him
HI read an old Rolling Stone interview with him. 1971? Smart. Politically savvy.
Gott mit Uns.:omg:
Well Obama speaks well, but you know he’s very Centrist and appeasing to all sides, that’s the way it seems to me
how did your rehearsal go?
A general similarity: Dem activists like David Bender are terrific; the leadership are a pack of clowns. con artists and jackals. Crosby had a good description for them.
Good. I bought a CD of Transformer. Played it, fell asleep and dreamed about the songs. One of my favorite albums. I get nostalgic about NYC in late 1960s and early 1970s. Music and art scene. Bowie figures in.
I hope people are beginning to catch on that there’s a difference between the Dem leadership and the people.
hey, that was a cool time to hang out in Washington Square Park and the Village 🙂 Not that I remember exactly, but I know it was :nixon:
Tamra. the leader of the band Lucid Nation sent out a bulletin on myspace raving about Obama. I told her he was a wolf in sheep’s clothing. She now wants to know more. Can you direct me to a thumbnail sketch of Obama or something?
1977 – 1982 (or around there), I know more about that NYC era I guess
you mean an article about him? I’d have to look a bit
We know that. Anybody who has been active in Demo party politics know that. I experienced it first hand when the DLC prototype (super delegates) foisted Dukakis on us, in spite of Jesse Jackson.
I used to actually monitor Obama’s voting record in the Senate, and in the beginning he played it really safe. I haven’t seen his voting record lately, though
Wow, Dukakis, now at that point I wasn’t even following politics too closely…
http://old.kboo.fm/listen.php
Go here in 5 hours.
yay, KBoo! I have the bumper sticker you sent me posted right next to me on a bulletin board:wink:
How did he vote on bankruptcy bill?
Roberts nomination?
Fuck face Alito nomination?
http://www.vote-smart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=BS030017
We used to go out firing AK 47s and talked about joining the FMLN in El Salvador. Had there been the same sort of hysteria then, I am sure the same sort of heat would have been applied to us.
ok, he voted against the bankruptcy bill (looking at a lot of websites at once)
He voted against bill, but he voted for cloture. Therefore…:fu:
yep, I’m just getting to that part 😡
interesting programming now on KBOO…
The show that plays my stuff is Outside in (I believe). I dropped a tape and a new zine in his box today.
they play your tapes? Excellent. When is that show on?
Do you remember 2 weeks ago?:omg:
Yes! :love:
1am pst.
Same show.
gotcha. Didn’t remember the time
Have you screened the video yet?
well I sent it to Judy, and it’s basically in her hands. She’s supposed to invite some people over I think. I was just speaking to her today, so I know she still means to
Fred, re #211 :nod: 😉 …
:eek:again I agree with you 😮 :rofl2:
ARREST!
IMPEACH! (format by KevinM)
VIGILANCE!
See ya around
Suan_Joy and Nicki Rose — I am missing a “kissy face” hahahahaha:rofl2:
Good. Just leave it in her hands. It is hers to keep. Where does Judy live?
She’s in Kearney, NJ.
also, she’s totally trustworthy, if she says she’s going to play it she will. 🙂
I know she will play it.
I plan on sending you some tapes and postcards for you to mail from NJ. Please.:bow:
to mail from New Jersey as opposed to “to New Jersey?”
I want to show her a NW zine also…Judy and I used to put out a newsletter of our own, so she’s really into these things…
Postmark New Jersey.
ok…I go out to see my mom all the time, she lives in NJ also, so I’ll have opportunities
:nixon:
New York too. Just don’t want my part of the nation as the pm.
NJ is taking on mythical status :omg:
Anything arrive in the mail lately?
I did not start the NJ stuff, either.
not within the last week or so…
I am making some interesting tapes.
I know you didn’t, you just took it and flew with it, which I think is great. I’ll sit down this coming week and start writing and/or drawing something
I will send you the latest zine. Revised. Give Judy the first one I sent.
video tapes or cassette tapes?
I think she’d like that, thanks 🙂
Both. Mostly videos.
yay Nickimania
Postcards, too.
you’re a good promoter
:40::omg::love::bow:
hehe
Unconventionally so.
whatever works works…you just have instinct for it.
The Mariners are trying to dodge a bullet. Pitching in the bottom of the ninth, one out, bases loaded, leading 9-5.
Two outs.:omg:
1 and 2 count.:omg:
Oooo
Their ace reliever struck out the side, after giving up 4 straight hits. They have a battling team this year.
I used to get instant scorecard for every team when I was on AOL, that’s one thing I miss about it…
I won’t be copying for a while. One of my vcrs quit.:fu:
aww
I think I need some sleep. I’m dreaming while sitting in my computer chair :omg:
Are you going to listen to the show?
Are you going to be up for the show?
Fucking Randi Rhodes apologeia.
Wachet auf!:yawn:
There will be a surprise on the radio.
Hail Obama. Full of Shit!
The war’s coming home indeed, in the form of people dreadfully wounded in body and spirit. Thousands of tragedies that will unwind, often violently, for years to come. But for now, for the most part, it’s pictures on TV, not tears and terror on the hearthrug. So the Democrats in Congress aren’t too worried about pressure from their antiwar constituents, even though the mere possibility of a primary challenge by Cindy Sheehan put the wind up Diane Feinstein. The awful six-termer, Jane Harman, faces a primary challenge from Marcy Winograd in southern California, after a couple of unions defied orders and endorsed Winograd. Meanwhile, at the other end of the country in Connecticut Senator Joe Lieberman faced a decidedly cool audience at a big Democratic dinner at the end of March and got bailed out by his brother senator from Illinois, Barack Obama, who told the crowd to haul out their check books and make sure Lieberman gets returned for another term.
What kind of a signal is this? Here is Obama, endlessly hailed as the brightest rising star in the Democratic firmament, delivering (at a closely watched political dinner, with Lieberman’s primary opponent, Ned Lamont, sitting in the crowd) a ringing endorsement to his “mentor”, Lieberman, Bush’s closest Democratic ally on the war in Iraq, and overall pretty much a symbol of everything that’s been wrong with the Democratic Party for the past twenty years. What a slimy fellow Obama is, as befits a man symbolizing everything that will continue to be wrong with the Democratic Party for the next twenty years. Every time I look up he’s doing something disgusting, like distancing himself from his fellow senator Dick Durbin for denouncing the torture center at Guantanamo, or cheerleading the nuke-Iran crowd.
April 24, 2006
CounterPunch Diary
Obama’s Game
By ALEXANDER COCKBURN
I was harsh about Senator Barack Obama of Illinois here a couple of weeks ago, and the very next morning his press aide, Tommy Vietor, was on the phone howling about inaccuracies. It was an illuminating conversation, indicative of the sort of instinctive reflexes at work in the office of a man already breathlessly touted as a possible vice presidential candidate in 2008 and maybe a presidential candidate somewhere down the road from there.
Obama’s man took grave exception to my use of the word “distanced” to describe what his boss had done when Illinois’ senior U.S. senator, Dick Durbin, got into trouble for likening conditions at Guantanamo to those in a Nazi or Stalin-era camp. This was one of Durbin’s finer moments, as he read an FBI man’s eyewitness describing how he had entered interview rooms “to find a detainee chained hand and foot in a fetal position to the floor, with no chair, food or water. Most times they urinated or defecated on themselves, and had been left there for 18-24 hours or more.”
“If I read this to you”, Durbin told his fellow senators, “and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime – Pol Pot or others – that had no concern for human beings. Sadly, that is not the case. This was the action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners. It is not too late. I hope we will learn from history. I hope we will change course.”
So Durbin paid the penalty of having to eat crow on the Senate floor. His fellow senator, Obama, did not support him in any way. Obama said, “we have a tendency to demonize and jump on and make mockery of each other across the aisle and that is particularly pronounced when we make mistakes. Each and every one of us is going to make a mistake once in a while… and what we hope is that our track record of service, the scope of how we’ve operated and interacted with people, will override whatever particular mistake we make.”
That’s three uses of the word “mistake”. This isn’t distancing?
Nor did Obama’s man like my description of Obama’s cheerleading for the nuke Iran crowd. Obama recently declared that when it comes to the U.S. posture on Iran, all options, including military ones, should be on the table. Now, if Obama had any sort of guts in such matters he would have said that if Iraq is to teach America’s leaders any lesson, it is that reckless recourse to the military “option” carries a dreadful long-term price tag.
He did nothing of the sort, which is not surprising to anyone who read his speech to the Council of Foreign Relations last November. Remember the context. Rep. Jack Murtha had just given a savage jolt to the White House. This be-medalled former chairman of the House Armed Services committee had publicly delivered the actual opinion of the generals: “I believe we need to turn Iraq over to the Iraqis The United States will immediately redeploy – immediately redeploy. All of Iraq must know that Iraq is free, free from a United States occupation. And I believe this will send a signal to the Sunnis to join the political process.”
And who knows, if Murtha’s counsel had been followed, maybe it would have saved Iraq from the horrors now unraveling. But Democrats fled Murtha, few with more transparent calculation than Obama who voyaged to the Council on Foreign Relations on November 22, there to ladle out to the assembled elites such balderdash as “The President could take the politics out of Iraq once and for all if he would simply go on television and say to the American people ‘Yes, we made mistakes'”, or “we need to focus our attention on how to reduce the U.S. military footprint in Iraq. Notice that I say ‘reduce,’ and not ‘fully withdraw'”, or “2006 should be the year that the various Iraqi factions must arrive at a fair political accommodation to defeat the insurgency; and , the Administration must make available to Congress critical information on reality-based benchmarks that will help us succeed in Iraq.”
Obama is one of those politicians whom journalists like to decorate with words as “adroit” or “politically adept” because you can actually see him trimming to the wind, the way you see a conjuror of moderate skill shove the rabbit back up his sleeve. Above all he is concerned with the task of reassuring the masters of the Democratic Party, and beyond that, the politico-corporate establishment, that he is safe. Whatever bomb might have been in his head has long since been dis-armed. He’s never going to blow up in the face of anyone of consequence.
There are plenty of black people like that in the Congress now. After a decade or so of careful corporate funding, as the Black Congressional Caucus is sinking under the weight of Democratic Leadership Copuncil clones like Artur Davis of Alabama, Albert Wynn of Maryland, Sanford Bishop and David Scott of Georgia, William Jefferson of Louisiana, Gregory Meeks of New York, all assiduously selling for a mess of pottage the interests of the voters who sent them to Washington. Obama has done exactly the same thing. He lobbed up the first signal flare during the run-up to his 2004 senate race, when his name began to feature on Democratic Leadership Council literature as one of the hundred Democratic leaders to watch . That indispensable publication The Black Commentator raised a stink about this. “It would be a shame,” wrote the Commentator’s Bruce Dixon, ” if he is in the process of becoming ‘ideologically freed’ from the opinions of the African American and other Democrats whose votes he needs to win.”
Obama wriggled for a while, sending out clouds of mush speak such as “I believe that politics in any democracy is a game of addition, not subtraction”, but the Commentator held his feet to the fire. They posed Obama three “bright-line” questions:
1. Do you favor the withdrawal of the United States from NAFTA? Will you in the Senate introduce or sponsor legislation toward that end?
2. Do you favor the adoption of a single payer system of universal health care to extend the availability of quality health care to all persons in this country? Will you in the Senate introduce or sponsor legislation toward that end?
3. Would you have voted against the October 10 congressional resolution allowing the president to use unilateral force against Iraq?
This was in 2003, when Obama clearly felt he could not afford to endanger left support by answering anything other than Yes on the questions and so he duly told the Black Commentator that he would stop hanging his hat in the halls of the DLC and would tell them to remove his name from their !00-To-Watch list. Hence his press man, Vietor’s, sensitivity to my allusion in that last to Obama’s “mentor” being Senator Joe Lieberman. As a freshman senator, Vietor insisted, Obama had been assigned Lieberman as “mentor”. Read the Hartford Courant and you’ll find Lieberman boasting that Obama picked him.
Wall Street Rules
by Dean Baker; June 23, 2006
The idea that the government, or some arm of government, is controlled by a special interest group naturally prompts outrage. The government should be answerable to the public as a whole, not special interests that have extraordinary political power.
For this reason, it was striking to see a piece (“Confusion From the Fed Head”) in the Washington Post’s Outlook section in which Richard Yamarone, an investment analyst, matter of factly asserted that Wall Street controls the Federal Reserve Board of Fed. As Mr. Yamarone put it, “The Fed chairman may be appointed by the president and confirmed by the Senate, but his real bosses are on Wall Street.”
This statement is an incredible indictment of the U.S. political system. The Fed has far more direct impact on the U.S. economy than any other agency of the government. It can control how many people in the United States have jobs. While the media tend to speak of the Fed’s actions in euphemisms, when the Fed raises or lowers interest rates (its main policy tools) it is deciding whether the economy should create more or fewer jobs.
Cuts in interest rates are intended to boost the economy. Lower interest rates make it easier for families to buy cars and homes and for businesses to invest. If more cars and homes are sold and more factories or offices are built, then more people are employed. In the opposite case, if the Fed raises interest rates, it makes it harder to buy cars and homes and for businesses to invest. This means that fewer people will be employed.
As a practical matter, it is often easier for the Fed to destroy jobs than create them. Sometimes lower interest rates will not be sufficient to boost the economy. (A worker concerned about losing her job may be reluctant to buy a new car regardless of how low the interest rate falls.) By contrast, if the Fed raises interest rates high enough, it can be sure that it will eventually slow the economy and reduce employment.
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A woman from Illinois wrote to me after my last column on Obama, agreeing with my reproofs, and saying:
Here’s an example of how the position and adulation from those in Washington have gone to his head. I’m involved with the Springfield (IL) Urban League. We began asking almost immediately after the election if he could be the keynote speaker at our annual fundraising dinner – which was held last fall! His staff delayed positive responses (even as we continued to call and inquire) until it was too late to get on the schedule of any nationally recognized ‘celebrity.’ (Thankfully, the attendance was excellent and the fundraiser our best ever – despite the brush off we received from Obama.) Let me reiterate: Barack Obama blew off speaking before an audience of 500 primarily African-American voters in Illinois – the state he purports to represent. He’s spoken here lots of times prior to his election to the Senate, and even since. But he blew us off for nothing more than continued visits to states that did not elect him to stump for sometimes-questionable democrats – like the Lieberman situation.”
Some hopeful progressives still say, “Obama has to bob and weave, while positioning himself at the high table as the people’s champion.” But in his advance to the high table he is divesting himself of all legitimate claims to be any sort of popular champion, as opposed to another safe black, like Condoleezza Rice (whom Obama voted to confirm. The Empire relishes such servants.
And so Obama, the constitutional law professor, voted to close off any filibuster of Alito and fled Senator Russell Feingold’s motion to censure the President, declaring: “my and Senator Feingold’s view is not unanimous. Some constitutional scholars and lower court opinions support the president’s argument that he has inherent authority to go outside the bounds of the law in monitoring the activities of suspected terrorists. The question is whether the president understood the law and knowingly flaunted it.”
That’s not the question at all. The vitality of the Constitution does not rest on whether Bush understands it, any more that the integrity of the Criminal Code depends on whether the President has ever read a line of any statute. We can safely assume that he doesn’t and he hasn’t.
And so also did Obama, the constitutional law professor, vote Yea on March 2 to final passage of the U.S.A PATRIOT Improvement and Reauthorization Act, unlike ten of his Democratic colleagues.
Vietor, Obama’s man, laughed derisively at my complaint at the end of my last column how most of her Democratic colleagues had fled Cynthia McKinney. “She apologized”, Vietor cried, as though that settled the matter. In fact the betrayal of McKinney, particularly by her black colleagues, was an appalling and important political moment rewarding the racism showered on McKinney and the ongoing implosion of the Congressional Black Caucus. Obama, of course, distanced himself from her too.
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Similar minds…:rofl2:
I just saw many post and to say Hi to Sir NickiRose — who I didn’t know was a sir till I started seeing “He”
and evidently we posted at same time …. Strange
Go to new stream, but I figured you might want to speak with Him here :wink::rofl2:
I was so tired I was hallucinating