I’m a day late on this (must’ve been that whole 4/20 thing ), but the 2016 NY State Primaries are over, with Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton emerging victorious. I (much like the Trump spawn) was unable to participate in the primary election because I’m not registered to a political party that makes much of a difference. I was once a registered Democrat, but long ago decided I didn’t like the “party” all that much so I registered with the Working Families Party. But then they endorsed Governor Snotball over Zephyr Teachout a couple years back, which really pissed me off. So I decided to switch to the Green Party. Frankly, registering as a Democrat where I live is kind of a joke. None of the local races are ever contested (hell, we’re often lucky to have more than one candidate running in the general election, let alone the primary), and by the time the national races get to NY, everything’s usually already been decided (at least, according to the media) by the white folks in Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina. The last time I voted in a primary was way back in 2008 when I quite reluctantly voted for Hillary Clinton over Barack Obama (my first choice was John Edwards, which shows how smart I am).
Now, in NY, you’d think it would be fairly simple to change your voter registration. And I suppose it is, but it takes forever. After printing out and failing to mail in a paper form, I eventually filled out the form (you can’t just fill out a “change” request either – you have to fill out the full voter registration form as if you’re a new voter) at the DMV website. And I waited. And waited. And I checked my registration on my county BOE website, and it never changed. And eventually I kind of forgot about it until I decided maybe I should register as a Democrat so I could vote for Bernie.
Now, I don’t know exactly when Bernie made his intentions known, but I think it was around last May. So I should have done it then (though to that point there was no indication that my previous change had gone through, so I didn’t know if it was gonna work anyway), but I didn’t and much to my surprise, by the time Bernie officially launched his first campaign ad in November, it was already too late. If you want to change your party affiliation for the purpose of voting in the primary here in NY, you have to do it six months ahead of time.
So, my bad. I think this is pretty stupid, personally, but there are a vast number of stupid voting rules here in NY (that include things like the color of the ink used in the nominating petitions, and the fact that if the election district changes mid-street – as they do – and there’s a single signature from the wrong district on the petition, all the signatures get thrown out) designed to keep the little people without a vast organization and tons of money (and lawyers) from running for any office higher than Highway Superintendent.
I’ve heard people say that if you’re not a member of a party then you don’t have any right to choose the party’s candidate, which sounds good. Except just registering with a party affiliation doesn’t make you a member of the party either. So by that logic, you should have to be a card-carrying, dues-paying member of “the party” in order to vote.
But in the shitty system we have here, you only get two actual choices (usually between Kang and Kodos), so it seems kind of unfair to me that if there’s somebody running in either party that you’d like to see become president, you ought to be able to vote for that person to become the candidate. And there are of course states with open primaries – I just don’t happen to live in one of them.
I also don’t live in Canada, where it looks like they’re about to legalize pot. So maybe I need to change that.
Oh, there’s always the argument that people are going to scurry out to the polls to vote for somebody they think will make for a weak candidate on the “other” side. Frankly, I think most people are too lazy to bother with that. At least, I don’t think you’d get enough people to make much of a difference in a national election (though I know there’s been isolated incidents of Republicans digging up homeless people or whatever to run as the Democrat in some local races – but I don’t think that’s quite the same thing).
I at least think I ought to be able to go online and change my registration instantly. If you want to lock that function out a week or a month or whatever ahead of an election, then OK.
But, whatever. The rules are the rules, and they aren’t gonna change.
Anyhow, I found this NY Times map of how the candidates did in New York pretty interesting. Surprising, even. Not the Republican one (NY Republicans love them some Trump), but the Democrats.
Green is Bernie, and blue is Hillary, and you can see that Bernie won in all the rural areas – areas which are typically considered very conservative. Not exactly what you’d consider a bastion of Commie Pinko sympathizers. Even in the counties that Clinton won Upstate, her margin was a lot lower than she got downstate (and Sanders had huge YUGE margins in some of the more rural areas).
The other thing I thought was interesting was this table:
Now, granted this is only the committed delegates and doesn’t include the card-carrying, dues-paying, party elite types (who will eventually vote whichever way the political winds blow), but still. Clinton appears to have a less than a 250 delegate lead over Sanders at this point. Which seems odd, because I keep hearing that he should quit. That seems like telling a team that’s down by 10 points in the third quarter that they should just give up and go home.
I mean, need I remind you that Syracuse was down by 15 points with 9:33 to go in the game against Virginia and came back to win and earn a trip to the Final Four? No, I didn’t think so.
So hopefully Bernie will at least be able to get some some of his ideas into the Democratic platform (not that that means much), and hopefully Clinton can actually beat Trump (who the GOP establishment is suddenly warming up to) in November. ‘Cuz I hate moving, and I’m not sure Canada wants an old fart like me moving in anyway.
First, we got screwed by NAFTA, screwed by NAFTA, a horrible deal. The EU allows citizens of any country move and work in any member country. So I am told, so an Irish person can move to and work in Italy, for example, without hurdles. I am not going to look it up because I say so. If NAFTA had been a deal like that, I’d probably be living in BC now with Sunny Jim.
At least you couldn’t vote in a primary that mattered for a change. I should be able to vote (?) in a primary that won’t mean anything once again. I have been here now for over a year and we haven’t had any elections so I am not sure. When I requested a permanent mail-in ballot, I did see that I was in the ‘system’. Seems like in frisco we had at least 2 elections a year and I could fill my recycling bin with all of the mailers and the voters’ guides. I’ll still Vern for Bern but I think that’ deal is done. I don’t think Sanders ever thought that he would get this far when he set out and he was on a mission so I doubt he is dropping out or pulling a Nadir. I have always registered Dem and will probably never change. If there is really some afterlife, too many family members would rain down wrath and kick my ass if I changed. I can’t take any chances.
I have to say HRC’s husband and many surrogates are making her hard to embrace. They should just knock it off and let Bernie and his supporters have their day and hope they can bring a lot of them along in the general.
One more thing…
I remember having to go to London and Florence for work a few years back. When I got off the plane at the Florence airport, I expected to have to go through customs again. But then I remembered that with teh EU, flying from England to Italy is like flying from New York to Chicago. Except the beer on Lufthansa is free.
The one I thought was really surprising was Gloria Steinem saying that young women were only supporting Sanders because that’s where “the boys” were.
For Gloria Steinem of all people to marginalize young women as being boy-crazy girls instead of young people who have legitimate concerns about their futures and the future of the country is just mind boggling to me. Imagine if some mean old man said something like that.
I’d probably die too if Der Dönald was repeatedly invoking my name. I used to watch ‘wrestling’ until I ditched cable and Chyna was pretty awesome.
Chyna, a former wrestling star and actress, found dead at Redondo Beach home
Now Prince!?
Suspect this is true. MSNBC just had a big hiccup probably not wanting to interrupt their Trümpfcast until they can confirm and get a crew on the scene.
Yeah, looks like the artist formerly known as the artist formerly known as Prince is dead.
He was kinda young (only a couple years older than me, and he sure looked to be in a lot better shape than I am – not that that’s exactly a high bar). I wonder what did him in.
The lo-cal morning news twit just exclaimed “Prince’s first hits came ALL THE WAY BACK IN THE SEVENTIES!!!!”
It was as if the 70s were antebellum or something.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/22/arts/music/prince-dead.html
I’d be a bit concerned if I only used one name.. Chyna..Prince and the third will be???
Voting seems so arbitrary in this country. In WA, we (the dems) did cross in a primary and elect an unelectable for governor. Ellen Craswell was nuttier than a fruitcake and we were able to get her on the Rethug ballot. But really, which Rethug isn’t that crazy? Gary Locke beat her effortlessly – it worked!
I had a feeling Bernie would lose in NY because of the Working Family and Green parties. They’d cast the biggest Bernie vote and ya just can’t switch easily in NY. I know it’s not popular in this room, but I like the H. I’m an old feminist and think she gets the shaft time and again. I agree with Bernie on most things – have subscribed to his newsletter for years. I don’t agree with him on guns. He’s ridiculous on that. And honestly, I don’t give a hoot if H made money giving speeches – BFD. Make money off the corporate bastids. I agree she’s not perfect, but I do not like the bickering between the Bern and H. Both should stf as I’d vote for either and do it happily.
And while I’m on a soap box, I’d take ALL the men off our damn currency and let women have a turn for the next couple centuries. Why can’t the currency be like postage stamps? Coke machines and ATM’s can adapt.
{{{Trip, crash}}}} ok, off the box now.
Uh-oh. Cher’s no spring chicken. And Bono’s my age, so he could drop at any moment.
We of course have a special affection for Harriet Tubman up here, ‘cuz she lived out her final years over in Auburn (where Obama stayed a few years back and didn’t even bother stopping in at the Harriet Tubman Home – shame on him).
Yeah, the good news is you no longer have to cross over to get an insane Republican nominated. The bad news is that in a lot of places they aren’t unelectable. In fact, it actually seems to be an advantage.
We always just called him Merle.
PS I agree about NAFTA and the trade deals…
I posted this on FB before Prince passed.
I don’t HuffPost very often, one of the first of many I just quit doing, but this is an interesting piece and it gives me a chance to balance for HRC for a change.
Hillary Clinton, Melissa Harris-Perry and the Opposite of Imposter Syndrome
I used to like Melissa Harris-Perry until she did that snotty, condescending “open letter” to Edward Snowden.
I prefer a primary that is limited to the registered party members. I think a party has the right to put up the candidate of their choice. It’s not the fear that some people will purposely vote for a weaker candidate from the opposing party, but the possibility that non party members will vote for a candidate who does not have support from party members. It’s not a perfect way to do primaries but I’m not sure what would be better.
Instead of changing the primary rules I would like to see a real public ed campaigh that explains to voters what registering in a party means. When I taught adults I always brought in registratgion forms and explained the options. Many thought that registering in a party meant they had to vote for that party. Students were always assuring me that they were independent and many wanted to register in the Independence Party for that reason.
I have always been a registered Dem. I’m often not happy with them but I believe my only influence is to be a Dem primary voter. In NYC the Dem who wins the local primary race is the winner in the general. The only exception is mayor. Yet, primary voters are much fewer than general election voters.
As for Hillary, I think she has gotten a terrible rap. I’ve heard the Bernie folks tell me about Whitewater to prove she’s dishonest. Chris Matthews doesn;t like her voice tone. What she wears is an issue. Is she perfect? No. Can Bernie accomplish any of his goals?
Samantha Bee did it well. She asked a Bernie supporter who had voted for Obama what had happened to many of Obama’s plans. He answered that the Repubs has obstructed him from day 1. Then she asked what he thought they would do to Bernie and he started on the millions and millions of people coming out to constantly protest.
I, too, will get off my soapbox. I appologize dor the rant.
I understand the rationale for closed primaries. But “closed” anything kind of rubs me the wrong way. Especially in the two party system we have (if we had a parliamentary system where there’s very much less of a barrier to running for office and where even so-called minor parties can have a role in creating a coalition government, then that might be different).
Since a third-party candidate really can’t win, I think you should be able to vote for whoever you think would make the best President (or Senator or Governor or whatever).
I mean, if I’m a registered Democrat and the Democratic candidates for Governor are Andrew Cuomo and Sheldon Silver (when he gets out of jail), and I despise both of them (and I do), and the Republicans are running, say, Carl Paladino (who makes Donald Trump look sane) and Daniel Stewart (a Republican and the first openly gay mayor to be elected in NY State), I don’t think I should have to be limited to a choice of Snotty or Shelley.
And even if I have to be limited to the party I’m registered with, I don’t think I should have to change my registration six months ahead of time. Hell, if you weren’t registered to vote at all, you could register as late as March 25 to vote in the April 19 primary. So you get penalized for actually being a good little citizen taxpayer and voting every year.
And, while we’re at it, I think there should be a national primary day (or, better yet, a week) where everybody in the country votes at the same time so that it isn’t the pointless exercise it is most years (same as with the general election – make it a week long and have the polls open and close at the same time all across the country – which would be tricky in Hawaii, I guess, so we might have think about that one a bit).
But, of course, nobody cares what I think (which is probably a good thing – being mostly ignored all my life has kept me out of trouble).
I agree about the six months. It is ridiculous. Of course if the rest of the state is like the Brooklyn Board of Elections it would take at least 6 months for them to do anything. I’m not sure about the everybody voting in a primary in the same week. The candidates seem to mutate as they move across the country. Winning and losing has a morphing affect on them.
Oh, and no one cares what I think, either.