It’s too early to be up, so I think I’ll go back to bed. Wake me up when it’s next Saturday.
Oh, and Jack Dunphy’s full of shit!
Posted by pjsauter on May 10, 2008
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It’s too early to be up, so I think I’ll go back to bed. Wake me up when it’s next Saturday.
Oh, and Jack Dunphy’s full of shit!
That’s Mike’s son that’s going with him to Iraq. FK’s ‘teenager’ is having a great time going to school in Colorado.
Did anybody grab a copy of Maron’s ‘American Afternoon’ shows this past week?
Maron on Friday repeating now on AAR stream
Links to Maron on AAR will be available shortly.
Maron on AAR (please note, the commercials have not been edited out; whattya want, ice cream, too?):
Tue, May 6
Thu, May 8
Fri, May 9
😐 who is this jack dunphy?
Make mine coffee!
I’m fianally listening to Maron, who’s the guy with him?
Tuned in AAR stream Friday at 3 to listen to Maron.
3:06. Maron! Yay!
3:33. Back from commercial break. Stream dies. I waste time trying to revive it.
3:50. I bail to KTLK and Randi. Nice to know that AAR still sucks. Sorry, Marc.
A little info on the possibility of the Obama campaign bailing out the Clinton campaign financially.
The only Rethug in NYC, a “family values” guy, Vito Fosella, is in trouble for his abundance of families, minus the rethug values.
Vita got drunk, ran a red light and had 2 X the legal blood alcohol level. His arrest, which could lead to 5 days in jail, also exposed the fact that he had 2 families: a wife and 3 kids in NYC (Staten Is.) and a girlfriend and a daughter in DC.
Vito is trying to decide whether he will step down immediately or simply not run for re-election. NYC Dems are very happy.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/10/nyregion/10fossella.html?ref=todayspaper
Poor Vito. He shoulda stayed in New Hampshire and settled down with that volunteer fireman dude.
Oh, wait. That was Vito Spatafore.
Thanks for the links PJ!
There was no Seder V Maron this week was there.
No M v. S this week.
This could change that magic delegate number.
What is Black is White what is White is Black but even further twists ……….. :smack:
Obama is the Bane of this Gov’t’s Future … he is putting us backwards …
Obama is a Nuclear Industry & Lobbyist’s Whore …. Many called Hill that FIRST, soooooo …. :fist: A!I!
Thanks, pj. I had pretty good luck with the AAR stream this AM. It crapped out yesterday so I listened via Madison.
andy, Don is a bartender friend of Maron’s who has hung out with him on air before. I think he also writes for TV/film (or hopes to).
I was happy to see that O’Bama cannot just write a $25M check and bail out the Clinton’s campaign debts, esp. given how much of it is owed to key campaign adviser and big time lobbyist Mark Penn.
Moving on…
Now that the Clintons have done the spade work…
McCain paints Obama’s portrait
Not so pretty picture about judgment and experience
Posted May 10, 2008 10:21 AM
The Swamp
by Jill Zuckman
WASHINGTON — Three months ago, Sen. John McCain made a calculated decision to begin painting a not-so-pretty picture of Sen. Barack Obama.
Where did the Web rumors about Obama come from?
The rich father and uncle of shame-faced, two-timing Staten Island Rep. Vito Fossella have been making sure his gal pal and love child are well taken care of in Virginia, sources close to the disgraced politician said yesterday.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/05102008/news/regionalnews/cheato_vito_kin_helped_him_sin_110188.htm
A fine example of rethug family values.
I think once everybody can rstart focusing on the real McCain, he’ll turn out to be a pretty weak candidate. The media is on his side, of course, but I think we found out that the people really don’t care about stupid things like lapel pins. There will always be single issue voters, of course, and those who think Bush was just dandy and we need to get some more of that. And of course there are people who seem fixated on one or two issues that they really don’t quite seem capable of understanding (or who are unable to understand a nuanced response, or who read something somewhere and cling to it because they’re scared or something, or maybe because they don’t like black people or whatever), but mostly I think everybody is ready for something different and is tired of the same old bullshit campaigns about nothing.
Obama might turn out to be the same Republican-lite that Bill Clinton was, but I’m willing to give him a shot. At worst, he’ll be the same as Clinton would have been (they are nearly identical on every single position, from healthcare to education to energy policy), and at best I think he can be a symbol to the world that we’re better than what we’ve shown for the past eight years. Plus he said he’d have the DOJ start investigating the Bush crime family as soon as he gets in. I hope that’s true, because nobody else said they would (I bet Edwards would have though; maybe he’ll get to be AG after all. Kind of Obama’s RFK).
I admit – publicly – that I don’t put my hand over my heart when I sing the national anthem. Actually, I don’t even ever sing it. I grudgingly stand up if at a sporting event, but I don’t sing and I just kind of look around, trying to scope out the cute babes.
I also do not pledge allegiance. Pledging my allegiance to a piece of cloth just seems really dumb to me. Actually, pledging allegiance to anything just seems, so, oh, I don’t know, mindless or robotic or whatever. Like the Trashcan Man pledging allegiance to Randall Flagg or something.
Who is Jack Dunphy? The playwright and lifetime companion of Truman Capote or the pseduo-named LAPD cop?
Well, those are both true, but the Jack Dunphy that’s full of shit is the one who said McMurphy was upstairs, as meek as a lamb.
Sadly, he turned out to not be full of shit in the end.
well that explains everything…… 😯 ……. ❓ :cat:
I disagree with everything in the McC report … that is part of the Obama media Mill spreading the Poor Me Banner, yet in truth it is his Camp that is first to attack. Does anyone here know of those of the Obama Camp … CAMPS at every Sen. Hillary Clinton’s “rally” and LOUDLY protests Sen H Clinton and post banners AGAINST HER and calling her as ME A RETHUG ….. these are all new voters Using AN REPUBLICAN TRUE ROVIAN TACTICS LEARNED and used against one of their own whilst screaming total negativity against Sen H Clinton ..AND ME (in this lil world and ..S-ville)….
and screaming that Sen Hillary is the evil when it is those that started … those in Obama’s Camp ……. I trust NOT OBAMA and His Backgroud …. but Cool … I will NEVER work for the DEMS again … since 13/14 years … I will Dance as you burn My America/Romerica … It Must be BAD if I stand on same side as Finewhatever ………. :billcat:
He is selfish … we could have had 16 BLOODY Y E A R S !
But Obama, as usual, is selfish and very egocentric …
…So trying to buy ones vote …. He will WHORE for what ever issue is HOT … I worked for decades for the DEMS … I will never vote for him …
Everyone wanted to go with something “appearing” different AGAIN & AGAIN …. which is why GORE Lost, CARTER Lost 2d — then put in Reagan, Bush 1 & the first time Bush 2 then people started to awaken to what THEY have done … Finally
:smack: :fustrate: :smack: :fustrate: :smack: 🙄
Muslin is not the issue :smack:
Religion is not the issue 🙄
Obama lying ABOUT The Religions Issues ARE Problems, which showed the worse character flaw.
Nuclear Lobbysists traveling with him and for a time so did Coal Lovvyists … that is a problem
A Black Man … I WISH HE WAS ABLE TO RUN HAPPILY AS VP and to then see what he does :smack:
Too bad the uppity dude doesn’t know his place. I am sure there will be many happy to show him.
btw, Jill Zuckman is a writer for the Chicago Tribune who seems fairly credible and offers up some actual facts to support her reporting.
This was the original Tribune headline for the report
Obama’s 2-front battle has given McCain an edge
A BLACK Man I would put in solely for NOLA …
But not HIM … I heard HIS camp say it first..
A woman Yes, but Hillary is the wrong ….
so I say there are many Black men. just not A Nuclear & COAL Lobbyist Obama, is the Wrong….. the days are waning for her
keep him in check, but as usual whatever … Tea :joe: Cheers
MAKE HIM PROMISE ABOUT HEALTH CARE
Oh he is taken care of and he makes us beg!
I’m afraid I didn’t understand any of that.
With the Democratic nomination now in its endgame, it’s time to speculate on that question that makes politicos weak at the knees: who will be tapped to be vice president? Unlike the top job, there is no election here, and it’s the first big choice that we get to see the candidate make about his cabinet.
So, who will Obama pick? Will he favor someone with experience like Joe Biden? A Western governor like Janet Napolitano? Or will he satisfy the media’s desire for a dream team and try for the Obama/Clinton ticket?
Hopefully we won’t be bickering about this too. :smack:
BLACK IS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT THE ISSUE
That Has Been a Media Trick. Didn’t you see even on Nova M & AAR that gambit — and all media “playing that card” almost word for word 🙄
I Do not believe in the media … 🙄 for decades they have not been FAIR & BALANCE Media …. Look at who supports whom & follow the money :smack:
So, how could you ever have supported Clinton if you were following the money?
They both were in “pockets” but he was in Nuclear Industry’s & COAL Industry’s
I have to say that I think Wesley Clark might be the best choice. It will give him the security gravitas. I shudder to hear Sam Nunn mentioned.
Whatever happened to Gephardt?
How many Hell’ry backers will become McCainiacs to save the nation from Mr. All Wrong?
*Don’t trust those figures*
But WTF … NOW The Greens .. in America, are singing the praise for The Nuclear Industry … Thus the ECO “tout” … so we will go Backwards and not Forward AGAIN 🙄
The Man Wins Again over Gaia
Sen Obama has been cheating and “crying” she stole delegates, but it is alright for him to CHEAT and steal hers … flat out …
BUTT it is alright since ALL is fair for The ObamaWhore …
I didn’t get to write much, since working, when all were saying the same FIRST about Sen Hillary…
Industry Donations (these come from Open Secrets, BTW):
Coal Mining
Clinton: $18,900
Obama: $7,595
Mining
Clinton: $28,100
Obama: $16,524
Oil & Gas
Clinton: $289,950
Obama: $163,840
Defense
Clinton: $220,275
Obama: $136,045
Can’t find the nuke industry at Open Secrets (have to sit down and look it over when I can, but this is from the WaPost – linked here many times over):
Note: Exelon is a nuke plant operator in Illinois, and NRG wants to build the first new nuke plant in 30 years (two, actually; one in Maryland, and one about 30 minutes north of me in Oswego, NY)
I don’t recall Obama or his campaign saying that Clinton ‘stole’ delegates. I’ll have to see if I can find that somewhere. I also don’t recall seeing that Obama stole delegates (or that anyone from the Clinton campaign had made any allegations to that effect). I’ll try and find something about that, too when I get a chance.
Oh, please, you see the difference … and she even just started saying more perhaps ONLY BECAUSE OBAMA IS WINNING :smack: and since Obama is SUCH a nuke-industry-whore
Regarding Clinton, it was a touch re $ to keep in touch with the industry, since AMERICA & NUCLEAR appears to be going down similar paths.
Also SHE IS NOT HE. She is ultimately more liberal than Bill or Obama.
Not sure where the Green Party USA supports nuclear power comes from. Certainly not from their Party Platform, which states:
Granted, the platform was adopted in 2000, but they don’t seem to have changed it, and I couldn’t find anyplace where they took an official stand on it (perhaps some individuals may have mentioned somewhere that nukes don’t generate greenhouse gases, but I didn’t see any official decrees or anything).
I need to look harder for that, too.
pj, it doesn’t matter. Give it up. It’s over.
You bring facts and they just get ignored and/or nothing gets presented to counter. It’s Chinatown, Jake.
On to McCain!
Oh, I don’t have any inside information on her motives. I was just following the money. And she’s got over $68 grand from NRG and at least $100,000 bundled from NRG’s CEO. You can disregard the money to Bill’s charity; I’m sure it was given and received with the purest of intentions.
And her voting record is basically identical to Obama’s. I just don’t see any evidence liberalism about to explode forth from her. Perhaps she’s keeping it a secret so she can bamboozle the right wing.
And, no, I haven’t seen one word about stealing delegates. Not one. The closest I can think of is that she wants to seat delegates from FL and MI, despite there being no campaigning and Obama not even being on the ballot in MI.
It’s that damn Jack Dunphy again I think.
I no longer back with facts since all I have been confronted with is personal opinions .. and NO ONE paid a bit of attention here nor there regarding facts I had … this is 1984 … facts are lies and lies are facts
…but for you PJ … what facts do you want?
then if you don’t hear from me, My Computer Said No for a bit…
the article is a wonderful article WHICH I STILL OWE VERNON about how Obama was having more repubs signing DEM for him … but I can’t find it …(I looked in past WordFiles, which I have to go through several times but it many be amongst a zillion articles which are SAVED in my different emails, which I am going thru now-ish — snail-slowly looking thru .. but this could be a 2005 or 2006c.e. article. :tap: :smack: :dancers:
And ultimately it is not worth beans… I only respond when there has been days of negative Sen. Hill :crap:
I know of that article and I believe I have that article in my WordFiles, of which you spoke of.
I am going for Tea Time :joe: :fist: :dancers: A!I!
WTF Vernon, That’s Rude and A fucking BLOODY LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Republicans for Obama :yippee:
Why Republicans Like Obama
Barack + GOP = ‘Obamacans’
Texas Republicans cross over to vote for Obama
True support combines with stop-Clinton sentiment in next week’s primary
Some Republicans Emerge To Endorse Obama
and Googley more
I think in some cases they are actually switching sides and not just trying to fuck up things.
I will tell you the stealing delegates saga when I return or whatever, since it is not the issue
…Mountain Lions, Tigers, & the Polar Bears and Wolves Are Dying
But parents take your children to see Nardia (or however spelt) and see the continuance of The Big Bad Wolf Scenario.
Would this be the delegate stealing? Obama got 4 more after the count was corrected. He got a few more in several places once the final tallies occurred. As I said when this was brought up before, maybe if Gore or Kerry had been as perseverant, perhaps we would have been spared 4 or 8 years of this catastrophe.
How to Count L.A. County’s ‘Double Bubble’ Fiasco Ballots Accurately and Immediately
Certification Day In California :yippee:
I don’t believe I said I wanted any facts (though if you have links to news reports or solid information on some of the other stuff – the Green Party changing their position on nuclear power, Obama accusing Clinton of stealing delegates or vice-versa, anybody’s delegates somehow being stolen, etc, I’d be happy to read them).
Note, I really don’t want a link to blog post where some inconsequential yo-yo is saying mean things about either one of them. It would be immature and childish for me to vote for or against anybody because I find their supporters in the blogosphere to be annoying. Frankly, there are plenty of annoying people on all sides. I mean, I don’t dislike Bush because the freepers love him (or used to love him, anyway). I dislike him because he’s destroyed this country.
I also don’t need a link to the NY Times’ article on Exelon and Obama and the bill that Obama proposed that got watered down before it made it out of committee and then died on the Senate floor (because the Republicans would never have passed it anyway). I already read it a long time ago, and Obama’s ties to the nuclear industry are a cause for concern, and I’ve taken that into consideration – along with Clinton’s ties to the nuclear industry (frankly, with both of their ties to lots of industries I’m not comfortable with), which I find to be just as much a cause for concern.
But, if you want to get elected, you need a lot of money, and I also take that into consideration – for both of them. I don’t excuse or ignore the money they rake in from these groups, but I do know how the system works, and I have real doubts that it will ever change, unfortunately.
Anyhow, all I asked was how you could be “following the money” and be a Clinton supporter. I mean, everything I’ve seen has Clinton taking money from all the same people. Frankly, more of it in most cases. It’s not that I think Obama is squeaky clean (or that he’s as liberal as I’d like – because he isn’t), and I can certainly see how somebody wouldn’t trust him or his motives. I just don’t see how it can possibly not work both ways.
If someone finds Obama too dirty or too ‘Republican’ to vote for, how can they possibly not find Clinton just as dirty (or just as Republican)? That’s the part I don’t understand.
As I’ve mentioned many times, I had a tough time deciding who to vote for in the NY primary (Edwards, alas, was gone), and I did what I thought was a fair amount of research into the two of them. What I came up with was that they are pretty much exactly the same. I wound up voting for Clinton, but with no enthusiasm.
Since then, frankly, I’ve been appalled by the way Clinton’s campaign has been conducted (note, I don’t say with her, personally, but her campaign. I used to have a great deal of respect for her, personally. She’s been a very popular Senator here – and I think I’m more familiar with her than most of those people who don’t live in NY are – and is well liked by many of the union and working people in education and healthcare), and impressed with the way Obama has conducted his campaign. And the way he’s spoken to us as if we were intelligent.
I must say, I’ve also been impressed by the way we the people seem to have responded to being treated as though we weren’t – to use somebody’s phrase – idiot morons.
I lost a great deal of the respect I had for Clinton back in October of 2002 when I made a point of watching her speak on H.J.Res. 114: A joint resolution to authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against Iraq. She gave a great speech, detailing why it would be a bad thing to give Bush this authority. And then she said she was going to vote in favor of it anyway.
That vote wasn’t a deal breaker, but it’s a hard one to forget, especially since she tried to stand behind it for an awfully long time (she has had a tough time saying she made a mistake, and while I’m sure that’s because some idiot ‘expert’ told her that would make her look weak, I would’ve respected her for it, the way I respected John Edwards when he admitted it was a mistake). The vote in favor of the Kyl-Lieberman bill was another tough (and more recent) one to ignore.
Again, it’s not that I think Obama is perfect and Clinton is evil. It’s that I think they’re both less than perfect (and both far less evil than McCain), and very close on everything I can see when I try to look at the two of them objectively.
Maybe that’s why I don’t get it. I don’t have a ‘feeling’ about either one of them, really. I can’t intuit that the money one takes from the defense industry is clean, but the money the other takes from the defense industry is dirty. I envy people their clarity, but I just don’t have it.
The only thing I see clearly is how horrible a John McCain presidency would be, and that’s something that just can’t be allowed.
BTW, as a reminder, if you put more than five links in a comment, it gets held in moderation as suspected spam. Then I have to notice it’s been held up, and I release it. That’s not a big deal for me, but who knows how long it’ll be before I notice it? So, keep it at five or less (you can always do multiple posts), or you may have to wait to see your post. Or maybe you can see it, but nobody else can, I forget how it works.
Sorry, mon Capitan.
Just trying to help with getting some missing sourcing. Never posted that many links before, never will again. The Google search would have probably been sufficient.
Guess I thought if I was a rude boy today, I should just go for it.
Oh, it’s no problem for me, man. I just want to make sure everybody’s info gets up there in a timely manner. I thought I’d changed it to 10 links, to be honest.
Fuggit. While I still am Ol’ ’55
OK, I upped it to 11 (that is, you can go as high as 10 before you get held back). So youse guys can link like crazy.
11 would be one more
11 is one more than 10, yes. However, it’s five more than 6.
OK, yes, now you, too may have an avatar on this blog. Simply go to http://en.gravatar.com/signup and sign up with the e-mail address you used when you signed up for this blog, and then upload an image, and within a few minutes (like 5 or so), your blog posts will be adorned with your avatar (unless it starts to slow things down, in which case, it’s outta here).
Oh, such joy.
Evening all. A busy one at work today and I have computer clients tomorrow and Mnday. It’s strange, now that I’m working a full time gig I seem to be getting computer work much more regularly, which makes scheduling a bitch. Oh well I need the money the smartcar is due to arrive in about 3-4 weeks.
Cool! OK someone tell me where the pictures are coming from.
What is ‘This’ that keeps coming up on my posts?
Looks like once you choose an image, you own it for a while
You mean the ‘This’ as in ‘Edit This?”
Yep, avatar bumps it down a bit.
Yay! My gravitar works!
Sorry…when I went downstairs I was tending the meows and taking Danu out (the place is hers) …. then realized it was time for my work out … if not then, then at late at night …yuck
then other jobs “beckon’d” … and more … Gotta read what I missed,
but also working and dealing with a few other things… :smack: and now even more tea is needed … :smack:
WOW pixs r wow 8) I tried different “CODES” but NEVER GOT TO WORK rats… back to drawing board WOW :pirate: 8)
The last live Seder On Sunday
Submitted by SEDER on Sat, 05/10/2008 – 8:29pm.
First off, what is not ending on SUnday 5/10:
+ This blog. This blog is going nowhere, so please, no panicking.
+ The SammyCam. In the short term at the very least Seder v. Maron will keep the SammyCam busy. I may start doing more live video shows- don’t know.
+ My radio career. I may end up as Air America’s 3-6 pm host. I really have no sense as to the chances of that happening. If not, there may be other opportunities at AAR or at other liberal talk networks. Don’t know that those opportunities would happen soon or months from now, but I love doing liberal talk radio and one way or another I’ll make it back on air.
+ My association with Air America. I continue to serve as the online editor of AirAmerica.com.
What is ending Sunday 5/10:
My Seder On Sunday contract. This will be the 52nd Seder On Sunday and the last live Air America Seder On Sunday Show. There will be two more Seder On Sunday’s of mostly all new Book SHow interviews. Jeffery Feldman, Rick Perlstein, Elizabeth Warren are just a few of the folks who will be featured on these shows.
The neccesity of my watching SUnday bobble head shows. If I never see Tim Russert do a roundtable with his cocktail party freinds again until Myla has kids it’ll be too soon. I can recite to you word for word what you’ll hear on his show this weekend. It is the most predictable our of television short of the old emergency test pattern.
Please, if you haven’t done so, sign up for the Seder Reader email list to your left if you haven’t already done so. I’ll keep you updated!
For me it has moved the post # to the end of the post.
Yeah, still working on the placement thing. Too beat to mess with it any more tonight, though.
FRED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Blue whatcha ICON Pix?
re 49 Kerry Yes … NEVER GORE…!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HE, GORE, took it to Highest Court 🙄
…this is the SAME media slant that has been used about GORE since 2000c.e. :smack: WTF SEE!!! Same Ol’ Same Ol’ 🙄
…and similar slants have been used against Hillary … from Media, Nova M, and AAR … Now ALL are TELLING WHO TO LIKE … and his Hands are Dirtier than Her’s.
BTW — I stand with the one that defended Valerie Plame …. still with what Hill ultimately stands for … she wasn’t for standing with those that breaks the laws, then said “uhhhhh ..I didn’t mean to say that”… more bush-speak :omg: . :smack: .. but most of the masses have vacillated (probably that famed 86%…) and deemed Oback the newly Crowned Rethug Peace-nik :smack: :fustrate: 🙄 … :dancers: … well again, The Many Scientists in the 80’s said if nothing was done then, then by year 2000plus … well we are hearing and seeing the results … stats ARE NOT NEEDED NOW :fustrate: … but will give to a few here …
whatever .. I just will “…Keep On Keeping On…” with my “issue-work”. … :tap: :reaper: :dancers: A!I! “4 minutes to save the world”… *poof*
WOOTedness!
avatars? why not?
probby clog city but wth…